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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:01pm On Jun 02, 2020
Terem Moffi is attracting huge interest from Ligue 1 side St. Etienne, Belgian Giants Anderlecht and Turkish Giants, Galatasaray SK.

I understand St.Etienne coach, Claude Puel has made contact with Moffi.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:16pm On Jun 02, 2020
JayromWrites:



Obviously, we will know them

They are from England

We follow English football


3 out of the 6 you mentioned are not regular first team players


I believe if they are Nigerians, you wouldn't say they are doing well

Which ones are not regulars and even with that you must take into cognisance the club standing and the limited opportunities given to them on what is world class teams and indeed the best team.in the world.

Rhian Brewster is not going to get regular opportunity in Liverpool. Nonetheless, he went on loan to Swansea in January and has played 11 games scoring 4 goals.

Danny Loader is a teenager who has played near 30 games for Reading. He is currently wanted by Crystal Palace and Wolves.

The context is anchored on the word "Progression" of these young players of which some are still teenagers.

These are very objective based assessment. But you are claiming prejudice and bias.

So to prove your point of biased prejudice. Please make a comparison of the 2017 Eaglets U17 forward players. And tell me where they are now.

Otherwise you are just being the very thing you are alleging
.

Please don't evade or go missing you have alleged now substantiate.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 11:23pm On Jun 02, 2020
komekn:


Which ones are not regulars and even with that you must take into cognisance the club standing and the limited opportunities given to them on what is world class teams and indeed the best team.in the world.

Rhian Brewster is not going to get regular opportunity in Liverpool. Nonetheless, he went on loan to Swansea in January and has played 11 games scoring 4 goals.

Danny Loader is a teenager who has played near 30 games for Reading. He is currently wanted by Crystal Palace and Wolves.

The context is anchored on the word "Progression" of these young players of which some are still teenagers.

These are very objective based assessment. But you are claiming prejudice and bias.

So to prove your point of biased prejudice. Please make a comparison of the 2017 Eaglets U17 forward players. And tell me where they are now.

Otherwise you are just being the very thing you are alleging
.

Please don't evade or go missing you have alleged now substantiate.


Wanted by?

That's a mere speculation

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 11:35pm On Jun 02, 2020
Subzero047:


Imagine comparing U17 to U20 in career progression

Anything to raise the English high and up there to the demerit of the homegrown fellas.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 11:42pm On Jun 02, 2020
komekn:


So of my relative, friend, village brother has been charged with a crime. I should automatically support him, that doesn't resonate very well with me.

The requirements in this arbitration will not be the principle of "beyond reasonable doubt" buy rather the preponderance of evidence.

From what we have of the allegations and the awareness of our own Nigerian acceptance of systemic and institutional corruption.

Siasa has a case to answer whether he will be convicted is another thing. But to assume innocent by national sentiment is not the honorable thing to do.



I agree, I'm not honorable, and I've accepted corruption to be a way of life, deal with it!!

If Siasia believes he stands absolutely zero chances of winning, he's definitely not going to set himself up to be humiliated at the end of the day.

Let see this one out. Remember he was asked to come defend himself, which he failed to do, it wasn't that evidences were presented to nail him.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 11:50pm On Jun 02, 2020
TheSuperNerd:
Terem Moffi is attracting huge interest from Ligue 1 side St. Ettiene, Belgian Giants Anderlecht and Turkish Giants, Galatasaray SK.

I understand St.Etienne coach, Claude Puel has made contact with Moffi.


Nice one!! I like the guy.

St.Etienne would make sense for him.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:51pm On Jun 02, 2020
Icon4s:

England U17 3 years ago right? Good.

In 2016 when you roll out the names of Manu's 2013 U17 you would see names like:

Kelechi Iheanacho (Manchester City)
Taiwo Awoniyi (Liverpool)
Musa Yahaya (Tottenham Hotspurs)
Chidi Nwakali (Manchester City)
Chidera Ezeh (FC Porto)
Isaac Success (FC Grenada)

Such was how they started, just like those your English boys, until a gradual regression started setting in.
Watch those your England U17 players and come back to this Argument in 4/5yrs time. grin

I am a bit puzzled by your proposition.

Because all the U20 boys, l have mentioned are also the same England U17 of the same era

It's quite remarkable that a huge portion of them are Nigeria origin players. The 4/5 years time span you are talking about is with us NOW.

Tega Abrahams
Ovie Ejaria
Tega Onomah
Ademola Lookman
Fikayo Tomori
Seyi Ojo

I have not added all the other English players like Mason mount, Reece James, Calvert-Lewin, Lewis Cooke, Ainsley Maitland, Dominic Solanke, James Gomez, Kyle Walker-Peters, James Maddison, we could also add Adarabioyo and Iorfa who all fall into the same age grade.

All these players have come from the same age U17 / 20 grade teams and era you attempt to make comparison with.

So what is exactly is your point ❓ Because your comparison fails as these boys have Alll gone very far ahead in thier careers playing in the best clubs in the world.

Look at Yahaya, Eze and Nwakali and you are trying to make comparison, with these players mentioned above.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 12:00am On Jun 03, 2020
Joebie:
Interesting development. I think this is good for our domestic football.


Privately-owned clubs led by Ifeanyi Ubah and Kunle Soname have moved to form a rival league on the back of their dissatisfaction with the NPFL.

Huge prize monies and live broadcast of matches have been promised to the top teams of this new league.

“We are not happy with the way the private club owners are being treated like an outcast,” said Ekene Adams of Kada City Football Club.

“We wish to seek the way forward for Nigeria football because there is nothing to write home about in the league.

“We have therefore decided to invest in our own private league.”

Adams said champions of this league will pocket 100 million Naira.

The independent league is expected to feature the likes of Remo Stars, Go Round FC and Dynamite Force of Benin.

The private clubs will have their maiden meeting Saturday in Abuja.

--ScoreNigeria
I'm afraid this idea won't come to fruition .

The NFF won't allow it .

It's a very good idea though...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:05am On Jun 03, 2020
Utonwanne:


Wanted by?

That's a mere speculation

I have my own sources to get an idea of club interest. However, with Danny Loader it's not just speculation but actual offers.

Although l don't hinge my entire substantive approach on media reports. It is still a good measure of interest in a player.

Your dismissing it all as mere speculation is simply not true.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 12:07am On Jun 03, 2020
Meanwhile, Osimhen has now won back to back "player of the season " award at his clubs.
* 2019 Sporting Chareloi player of the season

* 2020 Lille player of the season

Both awards were won in his first season at the clubs..

Definitely,great things await him!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 12:08am On Jun 03, 2020
komekn:


I have my own sources to get an idea of club interest. However, with Danny Loader it's not just speculation but actual offers.

Although l don't hinge my entire substantive approach on media reports. It is still a good measure of interest in a player.

Your dismissing it all as mere speculation is simply not true.

But "Osimhen to Napoli" and "Chukwueze to Chelsea" are mere speculations to you abi..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:11am On Jun 03, 2020
junnyjake:


Anything to raise the English high and up there to the demerit of the homegrown fellas.

The context was a comparison of professional progression between English U17 player from the 2015 era comparative to Nigerian origin players in the U17 youth teams of the same period.

We mentioned Chukwueze, KC, Isaac Success and Victor Osimhen.

Can you add any others

And explain how that constitutes denigration and or is to the detriment of Nigerian home grown players .

You made the claim please explain.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:23am On Jun 03, 2020
Danielnino00:


But "Osimhen to Napoli" and "Chukwueze to Chelsea" are mere speculations to you abi..

Did I say❓ that or are you attempting to put words in my mouth, that's really desperately going below the belt, but to what purpose. WHY

Your blind unbridled prejudice has befuddled your senses of reasoning.

I actually recommended that Victor Osimhen should go to Napoli because it is a serious offer from Napoli. I would not say that, if l thought it was mere media speculation.

Chukwueze move to Chelsea just seems very unlikely to me. Frank Lampard has said they really need a top level left back among other players and has not said much about the wings.

They have Willian, Pulisic, Pedro and have just signed Hudson on a very lucrative 5 year long term contract. On a mind blowing £120k a week.

So with that in mind do you think that Chelsea are very serious and interested in signing Chukwueze.

Not too long ago people here said it was Liverpool. I gave my opinion then. Liverpool are now signing Adama Traore for some serious £££ a player that many dismissed here as being not good enough.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 12:40am On Jun 03, 2020
komekn:


Did I say❓ that or are you attempting to put words in my mouth, that's really desperately going below the belt, but to what purpose. WHY

Your blind unbridled prejudice has befuddled your senses of reasoning.

I actually recommended that Victor Osimhen should go to Napoli because it is a serious offer from Napoli. I would not say that, if l thought it was mere media speculation.

Chukwueze move to Chelsea just seems very unlikely to me. Frank Lampard has said they really need a top level left back among other players and has not said much about the wings.

They have Willian, Pulisic, Pedro and have just signed Hudson on a very lucrative 5 year long term contract. On a mind blowing £120k a week.

So with that in mind do you think that Chelsea are very serious and interested in signing Chukwueze.

Not too long ago people here said it was Liverpool. I gave my opinion then. Liverpool are now signing Adama Traore for some serious £££ a player that many dismissed here as being not good enough.

Everything is speculations until a deal has been agreed..shikena !

Traore to Liverpool? ..don't make me laugh!..
Where are people getting that BS from ?
Timo Werner is the only player Liverpool is currently very interested in.. next in line is Kai Havertz ...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 12:43am On Jun 03, 2020
Icon4s:


The person that arranged this setup, does he understand the positions these players played?

What is Taribo doing as best left back?
What is Yobo doing as best Right back?
What is Okocha doing as best Right winger?
The person get liver to put Yobo on RB grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 12:44am On Jun 03, 2020
Chukwueze rated 14th Fastest La Liga player in recent rankings.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 12:44am On Jun 03, 2020
komekn:


I have my own sources to get an idea of club interest. However, with Danny Loader it's not just speculation but actual offers.

Although l don't hinge my entire substantive approach on media reports. It is still a good measure of interest in a player.

Your dismissing it all as mere speculation is simply not true.


Right now we have all kinds of speculation about different footballers and transfers. If you take any of it seriously you really are walking in the dark without a torch.

In all honesty l don't think Chelsea is that interested in him. So all this talk is just speculation.



You went on to say that every transfer rumour is a speculation until dotted lines are signed.

Millions of transfer speculations don't materialize.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by solonnachi: 1:08am On Jun 03, 2020
TheSuperNerd:
Rohr gave him a mention sometime ago so the crew is definitely aware of the lad. He is certainly among the next in line to be called up soon, some games in, when international football does return.



Thanks for the info bro. I can always count on your sports coverage

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by solonnachi: 1:11am On Jun 03, 2020
TheSuperNerd:
Rohr gave him a mention sometime ago so the crew is definitely aware of the lad. He is certainly among the next in line to be called up soon, some games in, when international football does return.



Thanks for the info bro. I can always count on the depth of your sports coverage
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:59am On Jun 03, 2020
Joebie:
na murder u don commit to drop Yekini. Yekini is the best 9 we ever had. Kanu should be support striker.

modified.
Kanu should be in bench. na super eagles we dey talk not bestXI at club level.

modified.
what is Babayaro doing there? best Super EaglesXI?


Who is better than Babayaro? I will like to know who you think is a better left back than Babayaro.

No one doubts Yekini's prowess but in the modern game today, most of the strikers, from Aguero, Benzema, Firmino, Suarez, Lewandowski etc need to have the ability to play as a creative attack midfielder.

Forget about Bias, Yekini does not have that ability. Yekini is not also the kind of striker to drop into pockets of spaces in the wings to give passes. Sorry but Kanu trumps Yekini hands down when it concerns this.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:09am On Jun 03, 2020
Joebie:
Classic! Very relevant message even today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WU94jnHfTM

Beyond magic.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:15am On Jun 03, 2020
Joebie:
Interesting development. I think this is good for our domestic football.


Privately-owned clubs led by Ifeanyi Ubah and Kunle Soname have moved to form a rival league on the back of their dissatisfaction with the NPFL.

Huge prize monies and live broadcast of matches have been promised to the top teams of this new league.

“We are not happy with the way the private club owners are being treated like an outcast,” said Ekene Adams of Kada City Football Club.

“We wish to seek the way forward for Nigeria football because there is nothing to write home about in the league.

“We have therefore decided to invest in our own private league.”

Adams said champions of this league will pocket 100 million Naira.

The independent league is expected to feature the likes of Remo Stars, Go Round FC and Dynamite Force of Benin.

The private clubs will have their maiden meeting Saturday in Abuja.

--ScoreNigeria

Wow. This is a fantastic move. I hope it grows from here and please, please, please, they should invest in high grade grounds men to provide to quality main and training pitches to improve play.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 5:02am On Jun 03, 2020
You welcome Nachi.

As always. wink

solonnachi:


Thanks for the info bro. I can always count on the depth of your sports coverage

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 5:07am On Jun 03, 2020
Once upon a time at Arsenal's Hale end Academy.

Alex Iwobi and Semi Ajayi. Academy prospects years ago (as far back as 2014/2015). Super Eagles stars today.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 5:31am On Jun 03, 2020
komekn:


I am a bit puzzled by your proposition.

Because all the U20 boys, l have mentioned are also the same England U17 of the same era

It's quite remarkable that a huge portion of them are Nigeria origin players. The 4/5 years time span you are talking about is with us NOW.

Tega Abrahams
Ovie Ejaria
Tega Onomah
Ademola Lookman
Fikayo Tomori
Seyi Ojo


I have not added all the other English players like Mason mount, Reece James, Calvert-Lewin, Lewis Cooke, Ainsley Maitland, Dominic Solanke, James Gomez, Kyle Walker-Peters, James Maddison, we could also add Adarabioyo and Iorfa who all fall into the same age grade.

All these players have come from the same age U17 / 20 grade teams and era you attempt to make comparison with.

So what is exactly is your point ❓ Because your comparison fails as these boys have Alll gone very far ahead in thier careers playing in the best clubs in the world.

Look at Yahaya, Eze and Nwakali and you are trying to make comparison, with these players mentioned above.

Oga none of those players you listed up there was part of the England U17 of 2017.

You are just calling the same names of players you have been calling here for the past 5 years grin

The narrative here is the National U17 team.

You are trying to shift goal post grin

Modified:
Ok let me make it easier for you.

Let's look at the U17 World cup squad that was 5years ago.

Name some of the graduates of the England 2015 U17 FIFA world cup squad and their Present club/status.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 6:26am On Jun 03, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


Who is better than Babayaro? I will like to know who you think is a better left back than Babayaro.

No one doubts Yekini's prowess but in the modern game today, most of the strikers, from Aguero, Benzema, Firmino, Suarez, Lewandowski etc need to have the ability to play as a creative attack midfielder.

Forget about Bias, Yekini does not have that ability. Yekini is not also the kind of striker to drop into pockets of spaces in the wings to give passes. Sorry but Kanu trumps Yekini hands down when it concerns this.


Pocket of space ko,pocket of snacks ni,we re talking abt a striker dt can guarantee u at least a GOAL IN A MATCH, u re bringing kanu into it...forget all those qualities u mentioned dere,b4 u start shouting soak up knowledge from vangaal and Wenger,d primary aim of a striker is to score/guarantee u goals anytime any day,I would even put an aghahowa/martins b4 KANU in no 9 position let alone of YEKING cool

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:30am On Jun 03, 2020
elyte89:



Pocket of space ko,pocket of snacks ni,we re talking abt a striker dt can guarantee u at least a GOAL IN A MATCH, u re bringing kanu into it...forget all those qualities u mentioned dere,b4 u start shouting soak up knowledge from vangaal and Wenger,d primary aim of a striker is to score/guarantee u goals anytime any day,I would even put an aghahowa/martins b4 KANU in no 9 position let alone of YEKING cool

Primary aim in 19Kpodondo.

Do you see Guardiola, Klopp, Arteta, Bosz, Sarri, Emery, Tuchel, Ten Haag etc signing a striker with the primary aim to score goals? Now, more is required from strikers than just to score goals. Thus, Kanu trumps.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:36am On Jun 03, 2020
Icon4s:


Oga, this thing is general and England is no exception. All those players you mentioned there are more of products from the English Club academies and from different years.

Pick up the names of the English U17 national team of 2013 and tell me where each player is today. That is what we are saying.

I think komekn is yet to address the bolded.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 6:49am On Jun 03, 2020
TheSuperNerd:
Victor Osimhen has been officially voted Lille's Player of the Season for 2019/2020. His first season with them and already taking up this honor. What a guy.

https://twitter.com/losclive/status/1267835836114100224?s=19

Nice one

Victor osimhen Lille player of the season

Moses Simon Nantes player of the season

Good one for the super eagles

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 7:07am On Jun 03, 2020
Danielnino00:


Everything is speculations until a deal has been agreed..shikena !

Traore to Liverpool? ..don't make me laugh!..
Where are people getting that BS from ?
Timo Werner is the only player Liverpool is currently very interested in.. next in line is Kai Havertz ...

I have been readin that Traore news sha

I don’t know if it’s true ,but his price tag is 70 million ,Lol ,so I am not sure he will end up at Liverpool to warm the bench
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JayromWrites: 7:17am On Jun 03, 2020
komekn:


Which ones are not regulars and even with that you must take into cognisance the club standing and the limited opportunities given to them on what is world class teams and indeed the best team.in the world.

Rhian Brewster is not going to get regular opportunity in Liverpool. Nonetheless, he went on loan to Swansea in January and has played 11 games scoring 4 goals.

Danny Loader is a teenager who has played near 30 games for Reading. He is currently wanted by Crystal Palace and Wolves.

The context is anchored on the word "Progression" of these young players of which some are still teenagers.

These are very objective based assessment. But you are claiming prejudice and bias.

So to prove your point of biased prejudice. Please make a comparison of the 2017 Eaglets U17 forward players. And tell me where they are now.

Otherwise you are just being the very thing you are alleging
.

Please don't evade or go missing you have alleged now substantiate.


Like i said, this guys are getting this favours cos they are English

Sancho is doing great at Dortmund

Osimnhen is doing wonders at Lille

Foden is a golden boy at Man city

Chukwueze is a golden boy at Villareal(an international player at that)

Brewster is an up and coming player, nobody knows if he will be like Solanke tomorrow... Yeah he's signed to Liverpool

Nwakali was signed to Arsenal

Zakari is contracted to Real Betis

Micheal is also contracted to Bologna


You can't say the English players are progressing while ours is regressing, you lack basics

On Chukwueze's move to Chelsea, you never know until you move.. You will never score a goal if you keep running away from the goal post...


He's talented, a star in the making and if other players can take the move and make it.. I'm damn sure Samu can

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Koboko99(m): 7:21am On Jun 03, 2020
komekn:


I am a bit puzzled by your proposition.

Because all the U20 boys, l have mentioned are also the same England U17 of the same era

It's quite remarkable that a huge portion of them are Nigeria origin players. The 4/5 years time span you are talking about is with us NOW.

Tega Abrahams
Ovie Ejaria
Tega Onomah
Ademola Lookman
Fikayo Tomori
Seyi Ojo

I have not added all the other English players like Mason mount, Reece James, Calvert-Lewin, Lewis Cooke, Ainsley Maitland, Dominic Solanke, James Gomez, Kyle Walker-Peters, James Maddison, we could also add Adarabioyo and Iorfa who all fall into the same age grade.

All these players have come from the same age U17 / 20 grade teams and era you attempt to make comparison with.

So what is exactly is your point ❓ Because your comparison fails as these boys have Alll gone very far ahead in thier careers playing in the best clubs in the world.

Look at Yahaya, Eze and Nwakali and you are trying to make comparison, with these players mentioned above.

How can you compare boys who were born in England and either moved from academies of EPL clubs to the first team or went on loan to championship club with boys born in a different continent who do not have the same footballing education (most of the played street football for the better parts of their lives) and opportunities.

Some of these English boys joined top EPL academies as early as age 5 and have spent over 10 years by the time they went for the u17. Compare them to our boys, some were discovered playing street football or sand pitches.

They have to work twice as hard to get opportunities while battling with issues like loneliness, environmental change, racism, unequal chances at that age in order to make it in Europe.

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