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Re: Benin Was A Yoruba speaking Empire. by BabaRamota1980: 3:29am On Jun 05, 2020 |
For God sake what is Edo problem? Under Ogiso they were rebellious, under Oranmiyan they were rebellious, till today they are rebellious. Edo people na bad luck. 1 Like |
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba speaking Empire. by BabaRamota1980: 3:37am On Jun 05, 2020 |
TAO, Olu, study these crowns for me. One is Awujale, they still have this crown till date. The other is OmonOba, they have moved away from use of this crown, use a different type now. These are Ade Ide, beaded crown, are they not? 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Benin Was A Yoruba speaking Empire. by Amujale(m): 4:19am On Jun 05, 2020 |
lawani: You're correct but its important to note that the Yoruba language predates Latin. All the major Nigerian languages predate anything coming out of either Asia or Europe. And yes, i agree with you that the Benin Empire used Yoruba as their official language. Hence, you are absolutely correct in your main determination, Benin was a Yoruba speaking Empire. 3 Likes |
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba speaking Empire. by Amujale(m): 4:26am On Jun 05, 2020 |
lawani: Yes, Sango is a well known Yoruba Emperor. 1 Like |
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba speaking Empire. by BabaRamota1980: 4:39am On Jun 05, 2020 |
Edeyoung: You did what, who ![]() Ok, this is it! You rascals have drawn the rope to its limit stretch. Can you spot ya fashionable ancestors in the group photo below? They are serving their OmonOba. Im going to give reference and share with you when this picture was taken, even though its not dated. Chief Solomon Osagie Alonge was the official photographer of the palace. He started around 1933/1937. Those who serve Oba in the palace are elites in society, they have privilege above commoners on the streets. If in 1933 your elites are swinging blokos in front of camera what was the image like of your commoners outside palace? 6 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Benin Was A Yoruba speaking Empire. by BabaRamota1980: 4:46am On Jun 05, 2020 |
This edo rascal that call himself edoyoung is a freak. He said Edo civiliza Yoruba. Wallahi this edo wizard has realy made me angry. Baba lo ma pa e! See and compare Oluwo of Iwo, picture taken about same time. Can you see the palace men and boys? All clothed. Edoyoung or whatever you are, you don craze. Your ancestors were brought out of forest and clothed by Yoruba. Not even by whiteman but by Yoruba. Baba lo ma pa e! ![]() ![]() 6 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Benin Was A Yoruba speaking Empire. by BabaRamota1980: 4:49am On Jun 05, 2020 |
Can you see that first picture your ancestors attending to your king in Benin palace. Same time period withbsecond picture in Iwo the king and his attendants. Now comoare and contrast who civilize who. Dont say that nonsense again herw. ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba speaking Empire. by Edeyoung: 12:56pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
TAO12: Those were your people who escaped from thier yoruba areas to seek refuse in edo They bear yoruba names and they are called akoko edo a branch from akoko people from ondo..... If ibadan raided them why truly didnt they install thier person as king Agsin ogendegbe was killed in edo |
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba speaking Empire. by Edeyoung: 1:00pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
BabaRamota1980: We sold clothes to your ancestors you slowpoke In benin ancient times slaves and children don wear clothes untill adult age The two adult on the pics wore clothes the oba And thr chief behind
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Re: Benin Was A Yoruba speaking Empire. by Edeyoung: 1:07pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
BabaRamota1980: Very funy man this picture is not oba probably a high rank chiefs, again children and slave was not allowed to wear clothes until they are adult |
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba speaking Empire. by TAO12: 1:15pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
Edeyoung: (1) No sorry! But I understand how this makes you feel though ![]() Anyways, Ososo, Osi, Ebune, Ugbosi, Ibillo, Ekor, Ekpesa, Lankpese, Ibiekuma, Ekpe, and many others are all Edos in Benin Kingdom. In fact, one of your brothers here, davidnazee has already admitted that all these are Edos. So, don't worry about your damage control. It's not useful. Guess what! Sane people don't even need you or davidnaze to know that these are Edos. The testimony of the people themselves make it clear that they weren't Yorubas but Edos. Listen again: "Ososo people say their [ancestors'] houses [were] burnt by Yoruba [during the Ibadan raids of Benin Kingdom]". Listen again: It was a raid, not a conquest to dwell amidst them. The objective of such raid is simple. It is to capture these Binis and keep them as domestic slaves or sell them overseas. (2) This is not the Ogedengbe Ilesa raid on Benin Kingdom. No, this is the Aje Ibadan raid on Benin Kingdom. Two different raids and rape of Benin Kingdom by the Yorubas. And I am waiting for any academic piece which says Ogedengbe was killed by the Binis whom he raided and tortured. ![]() cc: BabaRamota1980 4 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Benin Was A Yoruba speaking Empire. by TAO12: 1:52pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
Edeyoung: Edeyoung: You see, remorseless unrepentant liars like you (who lie through their teeth like you do) are the reason why I expose Benin Kingdom to the whole world. Wait! What difference does it make if "children" are not allowed to wear clothes in your Kingdom until when your Yoruba neigbours "forced" you into civility?? ![]() ![]() Moreover, your spinning on "children" is totally irresponsible and unfortunate. It's a great lie. The truth is that in Benin Kingdom, men and women are expected to roam the street stark n@ked. N@kedness was the Benin default. Clothing was the exception to the rule. Quoting from the attached documentation, we read: "... according to Dapper, "No man is allowed to wear any dress at all at court ... There are men at the King's court, twenty and twenty-four years old who without any semblance of shame go about naked, only wearing a chain of corals or jasper round their neck." We also read from the same attachment as follows: "Likewise, the women are not allowed to wear clothes ... So you can see there, women of twenty and twenty-five years going along the streets perfectly nude without showing any shame." In sum: In Benin kingdom, for both men and women, n@kedness was clearly the default, while clothing was the exception. Thanks to the Ijebus. Thanks to the Yorubas. Stop the lies! cc: BabaRamota1980 4 Likes 3 Shares
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Re: Benin Was A Yoruba speaking Empire. by BabaRamota1980: 3:55pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
Edeyoung: Baba lo ma pa e! You say dis no be your Oba. Show me any chief in your entire land that rests hand and elbows on his aides. You bloody liar. In fact finish your lie so I can tell you who this Oba is. 1 Like
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Re: Benin Was A Yoruba speaking Empire. by BabaRamota1980: 4:04pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
Edeyoung, i read the book attachment from TAO. Did you read it? Is a 24yr old man what you call small child? Its either you are lying or Dapper is lying. Both of you agree attendants to Oba are naked. So when did you start putting clothes on your attendants. When you began clothing them, what styling of clothe was used to cover them? You don waka enter trap now. 1 Like |
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba speaking Empire. by ayoola27: 4:13pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
TAO12: what's the name of the book u posted |
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba speaking Empire. by ayoola27: 4:18pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
Amujale: I read the other attachment ...it clearly states that Yoruba were employed in the palace...as slaves ...not like it was their their lingua franca... even father Columbine of Nantes was chased out of Benin because he angered the chiefs I'm still waiting for the book sha |
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba speaking Empire. by TAO12: 4:20pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
ayoola27: I know you can see its name at its top. 1 Like |
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba speaking Empire. by BabaRamota1980: 4:29pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
TAO12: Thank you for bringing this out. There was distinct division between Edo and Bini. Nigerian politics muddled things up and it was further diluted when Edo state was created. There is distinction between Bini and Edo. Edo are slaves, Binis are aristocrats and nobles. Yhese guys here Edos, none of them is Bini. They hope and struggle to be Bini. When i used to come here regular and spit on their ancestors i always tell them they can never be Bini. Their response is always that there is no difference or distinction, that Edo is Bini. Till date I have never heard Lagos monarchy say it was from Edo. They aleays claim Bini root. Ypruba dont give a fvk about Edo. Bini belongs to us. That has always been my focus here. Edos are slaves to Bini. I will fvk up an Edo person. They are witches. Becareful dont touch any broom on a stick. These people are wicked. Look in Edo history and you see its all about exile, banishment, treachery, enmity, uprising, poisoning. They are wicked. I tell Yoruba if you ever fall in love with anyone in Edo State make sure to do your homework and ascertain their ancestral background. They must be Bini, not Edo. Wicked people. I cant stand Igbo but I have sympathy for them because they have been through a lot. I cant stand Edo and I have zero sympathy for Edo. In fact ill fvk Edo up. These people are wicked. They anger me. 1 Like |
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba speaking Empire. by TAO12: 4:41pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
ayoola27: (1) Regarding your reference to "the palace" in the so-called "other attachment", the author (Thornton) himself made it clear that he was unsure if those so-called "Yorubas" were indeed Yorubas ethnically (e.g. the Oyos, etc.) or merely some people from a different ethnic group who have only adopted the Yoruba language (e.g. some Baribas, etc.). (2) The statement about Yoruba language being the lingua-franca of the whole Benin Kingdom is separate and distinct from the above scenario. The fact that Benin Kingdom used Yoruba language as lingua-franca is attested by the French missionary father's documentation at Benin in the 1600s. This has been cited again and again ad-nauseum. In fact, your so-called "other attachment" which you alluded to also cites the French missionary father's work on the historical fact that Benin Kingdom and others used Yoruba language as lingua-franca. Check the last bottom lines of your so-called "other attachment" (in the 3rd attachment below). Cheers! cc: Amujale 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Benin Was A Yoruba speaking Empire. by TAO12: 4:49pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
BabaRamota1980: The attachment shows also that even 25 years old women used to go about the streets n@ked. So, it's not peculiar to the men, princes and nobles of their palace. It's simply a Benin default for both women and men to go about stark n@ked. Clothing was the exception. 4 Likes |
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba speaking Empire. by TAO12: 6:19pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
BabaRamota1980: Lol. Noted! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba speaking Empire. by ayoola27: 6:57pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
TAO12: sorry...Na this book I dey find... wetin be the name.. |
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba speaking Empire. by ayoola27: 6:58pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
BabaRamota1980: Bros.. Edo and Benin are the same... no difference guy... Edo means pride in Benin |
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba speaking Empire. by gregyboy(m): 7:16pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
MetaPhysical: We own the entire yoruba people End of talk You all ran from the thread edeyoung created We used your people as slaves in the palace sold to the to slave and the remaining as human sacrifice |
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba speaking Empire. by gregyboy(m): 7:17pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
MetaPhysical: https://www.nairaland.com/5894619/benin-influence-yorubas If you like don't click others will do it for you |
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba speaking Empire. by gregyboy(m): 7:19pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
MetaPhysical: Yea we got witchery that's what we used to overpower yoy all in the past, Conquered you with no sweat gave all your children witch to eat...... Rules over your towns, sacrifice your people to our benin rivers... Slave tribe |
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba speaking Empire. by gregyboy(m): 7:30pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
MetaPhysical: Witchery is better than Skull minnings |
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba speaking Empire. by gregyboy(m): 7:31pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
MetaPhysical: Here
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Re: Benin Was A Yoruba speaking Empire. by MetaPhysical: 7:52pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
TAO12: Do they dispute? ![]() When they say "not allowed" that means the law forbids them to be clothed. ![]() Shyyte! 3 Likes |
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba speaking Empire. by MetaPhysical: 7:59pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
Edo im sorry for una. All these your shame would have remained hidden from the world but you wouldnt stay in your place. Now the whole world see your unclothedness on internet. Ehhn, a people previously thought to be respectable.....look at your fathers penis on show in nairaland. ![]() Now someone will see this and put you on broader social media and put Edo as tag line. More is coming.... Keep up your bullshytte we will incrementally expose you as an uncivilized stock kept for sacrifice to Bini gods. 4 Likes |
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba speaking Empire. by MetaPhysical: 8:15pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
I should have copied babaramota1980. I need him here. ![]() Cc Babaramota1980 TAO 2 Likes |
Re: Benin Was A Yoruba speaking Empire. by Edeyoung: 8:39pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
BabaRamota1980: You type with bigoted go and cool off first |
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