So tell me, why are so many people suffering in Kenya today? Poverty, Hunger and starvation is a major problem in that zoo? Upon all that Kenya is owing the Chinese big time! That is the interesting part. Because I see the Chinese taking over your sh1thole soon. A country with the largest slum in Africa has nothing to boast about, buddy.

rvp2018:
What I can tell you is the glorious story of Africa smallholder farming that not only overtook big farms in Kenya (South Africans cannot comprehend this) but has overtaken the world.

Check smallholder tea production in kenya in 1963.

And compare with NOW. It's staggering!

And with that we have some of the most developed rural places.

I know for most of these bozos they cannot imagine a rural place so developed.

rvp2018:
What is the name of your new state...Biafra or Boko Haram.

Ask your mother?

So many? Nigeria is leading in so many. We have poverty in Kenya. Extreme poverty. About 1/3 of Kenyan suffer-normal poverty. That is like 15m kenyans. Nigeria is about 10 times that 150m people.

But obviously kenya without minerals or oil or name it has done well -

As for Chinese - they only gave us a rail-line - that in my view is viable and will pay for itself. The gov is more a guarantor and because it will pay for itself the kenya railway corporation will handle chinese..

Torture2020:
So tell me, why are so many people suffering in Kenya today? Poverty, Hunger and starvation is a major problem in that zoo? Upon all that Kenya is owing the Chinese big time! That is the interesting part. Because I see the Chinese taking over your sh1thole soon. A country with the largest slum in Africa has nothing to boast about, buddy.

whether kenya has or does not have mineral resources, why is he angry with Ghana because it has mineral resources? Is it Ghana’s fault that it has mineral resources and Kenya doesn’t have? the whole thing doesn’t make sense to me?

theenchanter:
Kenya has mineral resources. Repeating same lies doesn't make it true.

rvp2018:
What I can tell you is the glorious story of Africa smallholder farming that not only overtook big farms in Kenya (South Africans cannot comprehend this) but has overtaken the world.

Check smallholder tea production in kenya in 1963.

And compare with NOW. It's staggering!

And with that we have some of the most developed rural places.

I know for most of these bozos they cannot imagine a rural place so developed.

Fyi, many people have tried to replicate the KTDA biz model from small holder support to farmer owned factory owned processing and final marketing.
Saffas, Rwandese, Ugs even Naijjans have been here understudying KTDA operations but have FAILED! Even when managers are sent as expats like one sent to Rwanda told me. Its just impossible to develop the right synergy among all the players.

I don't have a mother? I have a mother.

vaxx:
Ask your mother?

Torture2020:
whether kenya has or does not have mineral resources, why is he angry with Ghana because it has mineral resources? Is it Ghana’s fault that it has mineral resources and Kenya doesn’t have? the whole thing doesn’t make sense to me?

rvp2018 is a special case.

Exactly. The guy who started it all Karanja nailed it. Mureithi nailed it for livestock but he somehow lost the plot. Botswana then nailed the beef industry. It could have been Kenya. The mad cow and all that has killed our livestock sector..now we would be exporting the best beef abroad.

You should read about Charles Karanja role in KTDA.
https://publishing.cdlib.org/ucpressebooks/view?docId=ft8p3008fh&chunk.id=d0e3782&toc.depth=1&toc.id=d0e3425&brand=ucpress

kikuyu1:


Fyi, many people have tried to replicate the KTDA biz model from small holder support to farmer owned factory owned processing and final marketing.
Saffas, Rwandese, Ugs even Naijjans have been here understudying KTDA operations but have FAILED! Even when managers are sent as expats like one sent to Rwanda told me. Its just impossible to develop the right synergy among all the players.

theenchanter:
if only u could channel half d energy u use in disparaging others for national development, ur nation would have one more reason to develop. But NO, u scour d internet for demeaning articles like a newly recruited wizard.

Lol newly recruited wizard ..so savage..

Loolk at South Africa - and all they had is nothing more than what Ghana has. But if you're an idiot - contended to eat cane-rat as a delicacy - you'll continue eating rats.

Torture2020:
whether kenya has or does not have mineral resources, why is he angry with Ghana because it has mineral resources? Is it Ghana’s fault that it has mineral resources and Kenya doesn’t have? the whole thing doesn’t make sense to me?

Shma:
Nairobi...

Now you are disturbing my view..if you can't show me something like what Austine posted then be gone already..
We are tired of third world stuffs...a little first world view wouldn't hurt us for a day..

Take it easy. I know kenya faces major challenges at the moment, which I blame on your very corrupt incompetent and clueless govt. instead of facing your despicable govt, you are here fighting imaginary foes

The Chinese debt is an albatross

rvp2018:
So many? Nigeria is leading in so many. We have poverty in Kenya. Extreme poverty. About 1/3 of Kenyan suffer-normal poverty. That is like 15m kenyans. Nigeria is about 10 times that 150m people.

But obviously kenya without minerals or oil or name it has done well -

As for Chinese - they only gave us a rail-line - that in my view is viable and will pay for itself. The gov is more a guarantor and because it will pay for itself the kenya railway corporation will handle chinese..

Danielnino00:


Both you and the experts are mad.

Tell me the criteria u used in arriving at that conclusion..
Lusaka,Windhoek and Gabbrone ahead of Lagos,Cairo and Nairobi?

U should have included Lillongwe and Maseru

Bellow are the ARIEL VIEWS pictures of the these towns, remove their tiny CBDs and u are left with full blown slums, now remove Abuja CBD and u still find other developed parts such as Maitama,Wuse1&2,Garki,Gwarimpa,Asokoro,Apo,Utako,Jabi.......
1- Bird eye views of Windhoek(the only developed parts)
2- Zambia (areas surrounding the very tiny CBD)
3-Cario Egypt( slums , no greening )
4-gaborone aerial view(including all its nicest,tall buildings)

This was way before Kenya overtook India and China in tea exports


When Charles Karanja joined the Kenya Tea Development Authority (KTDA) in 1964, it was small and young but firmly established. Its structure had been deeply influenced by the historical moment of its creation. Although the organization was to take on additional features in the future, it kept most of its initial structural characteristics. These were a major factor in its accomplishments.

The KTDA is a success by almost any criteria of assessment. In 1959 the 1,000 hectares of tea grown by some 5,000 smallholders produced only one-fifteenth as much as Kenya's multinational tea estates. In 1980 the KTDA was servicing 130,000 growers with 50,000 hectares (110,000 acres), sold half of the country's tea exports, and had come to represent 5 percent of the international market. In the process the KTDA probably has become the world's largest tea corporation.

The KTDA also excelled in quality. In 1959 Kenyan teas commanded prices 14 percent below the average London price; by 1971 they brought the world's highest prices, at 6 percent above the average. This leadership in quality has been maintained ever since.

The organization has been immensely profitable for Kenya and its growers. The World Bank estimated that the KTDA achieved a 28 per-

rvp2018:
What I can tell you is the glorious story of Africa smallholder farming that not only overtook big farms in Kenya (South Africans cannot comprehend this) but has overtaken the world.

Check smallholder tea production in kenya in 1963.

And compare with NOW. It's staggering!

And with that we have some of the most developed rural places.

I know for most of these bozos they cannot imagine a rural place so developed.

rvp2018:
Exactly. The guy who started it all Karanja nailed it. Mureithi nailed it for livestock but he somehow lost the plot. Botswana then nailed the beef industry. It could have been Kenya. The mad cow and all that has killed our livestock sector..now we would be exporting the best beef abroad.

You should read about Charles Karanja role in KTDA.
https://publishing.cdlib.org/ucpressebooks/view?docId=ft8p3008fh&chunk.id=d0e3782&toc.depth=1&toc.id=d0e3425&brand=ucpress

Thanks! Effort. Trial. Truly Kenyan. Effn beautiful!

Shma:
Kenya has it, your roads looks like hodgepodge of ash and water, so ugly.
And the reason you don't even appear in top 20, talkless of top ten.
If you have gone to school and know how qualitative unalysis are being conducted, you wouldn't have said that, as far as they can unalyse few roads network for a realistic purposes, we also have satellite images and countries representatives.
Those organizations can't do all the staffs by themselves.

Good next time don't compare your ugly ,faded, dusty mess with what we have okay..

Aim Nigeria,if you can..

KTDA is model is of small holder farming and rural development - at least in Africa nothing come close. Just like nothing come close to Kenya Cooperative movements.

Kenyans are hard on themselves but what we have done without any minerals - with minimal arable land - is incredible.

kikuyu1:

Thanks! Effort. Trial. Truly Kenyan. Effn beautiful!

samorobo:


Now you are disturbing my view..if you can't show me something like what Austine posted then be gone already..
We are tired of third world stuffs...a little first world view wouldn't hurt us for a day..

what Austine1213 has posted is a true reflection of world class city.
By African standard, S. A is waaay ahead,
I bet Nairobi will reach there one day,

freshest air you will ever breathe
tea growing regions is where most long distance runners in kenya come from..

You obviously don’t know what you are talking about. Ghana is doing well at the moment. We need many more success stories in Africa. I think Rwanda is doing well, same for Ethiopia and Côte d’Ivoire. I think senegal is also promising.

For me, I want to hear about African success stories, in providing quality education, housing, good roads, jobs, food etc. that is what I want to hear, not some stvpid photos of buildings etc when people are suffering all over. Kenya’s case is so pathetic that no amount of nice buildings you post on nairaland can change that poverty narrative, unfortunately

rvp2018:
Loolk at South Africa - and all they had is nothing more than what Ghana has. But if you're an idiot - contended to eat cane-rat as a delicacy - you'll continue eating rats.

kikuyu1:


Little nigga, I established beyond ALL DOUBT Abuja is a giant open air toilet purpose built for tax evasion.


We long ago established that like everything in Naij Abuja is fake; a Potemkin village!

The Incident Of Low Occupancy Rate For Residential Properties In Nigeria. A Case Study Of Abuja-Nigeria Federal Capital Territory
[url][https://ideas.repec.org/p/afr/wpaper/afres2016_110.htmlurl]

The most meaningful takeaway.

It was discovered that the majority of the residential properties developed, were not with financial assistance from financial institutions. They were purely private equities of politicians and businessmen who only want to consolidate their assets in physical structures but not for profit

Iow, money laundering, plain and simple!

The way they screech about Abuja you'd think it were Dubai, Singapore or Boston at the very least: as always reality in Naij is truly and truly ishytty!

Abuja suburb where open defecation is culture
[url][m.guardian.ng/news/abuja-suburb-where-open-defecation-is-culture/url]

Mrs. Edwin, popularly called Mama Favour said open defecation has become a normal sight in Tungan Wakili because most of the houses do not have toilets

Thats the CBD,UUURRGHHH!?
The practice is more prevalent in north-central states, including Abuja, the capital.

[url][https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.voanews.com/africa/nigerian-authorities-launch-campaign-against-open-defecation%3fampurl]

A typical Abuja toilet.

Five notorious spots where people defecate openly in Abuja

[url][https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/283933-five-notorious-spots-where-people-defecate-openly-in-abuja.htmlurl]

Gwarimpa express is a stop away from Kubwa express when coming from Wuse. “Driver, stop me at Gwarimpa express”, a passenger who wants to alight at this bus stop would say. Before this stop is a long pedestrian bridge that connects other parts of the popular Gwarimpa estate and that is why the stop is known as Gwarimpa express.
There is a big gutter on the right side of the road and many have turned it into a safe spot for convenience. You can see piles of faeces while passing or waiting for a commercial vehicle at the bus stop

[url]https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/283933-five-notorious-spots-where-people-defecate-openly-in-abuja.html/url]

I. CAN'T. ANYMORE

But while we struggle with temporary flood induced water supply issues in Nairobi there's no water in Abuja anyway . Somehow the planners ignored or someone neglected this.

There is no water in Abuja,” Chinyere, a resident, laments. “There is no light (electricity) but more importantly there is no water and this makes life hard
[url][https://pulitzercenter.org/reporting/nigerias-population-boom-poor-planning-skew-water-deliveryurl]

Ruth Samuel and her four children live here in an uphill settlement on the outskirts of Abuja.

But every day, they struggle for water, sometimes spending many hours scooping water from a ground spring
[url][www.voanews.com/africa/millions-nigeria-lack-access-clean-waterurl]

How Zokutu, Abuja residents get water.

The only source of water in the community is a cave, located about half a mile from the residential area. The water in the cave, which is 6 feet below ground level, is used for bathing, laundry, cooking, and drinking — without any form of purification. The level of development in Zokutu is next to nothing, as is reflected in the poor road networks, mud houses, and limited telecommunication access.

[url][https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/water-poverty-distress-in-nigerian-communities/url]

I like to bring receipts. In THE name of God never mention this effed up place ever again.

Lol you are always establishing fact about Abuja a long term ago...
Just enjoy Abuja and stop wailing mombasa will get there someday



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJQsal6geJc

If you want morwe you can always ask

rvp2018:
You're world leading minner of money - and you look so shitty. I mean countries like those Arabs mines OIL - oil is like coal - dirty shitty crap.

GOLD GOLD. You have overtaken South Africa. Gold and DIamond are like GOLD STANDARDS. That straight up is MONEY.

Is there anything in Ghana right now that look like gold. Nothing. Your country is shitty - you have to open two accounts to like you own posts.

Kenya is nothing. It has no minerals. no rain. no nothing. But your own president raise Nairobi of 80s as your 2050 vision.

You guys are BEYOND THE PALE. No wonder the slaves your exported are hopeless.

You're worst than Nigeria. Every Nigerian who has to be Ghana knows it. Ghana is worse than the Zoo...we need a new definition of the real bottom...even the rats don't sink that low.

Countries moving to service economy and you still thinking of extractions as the it thing lol

Anyway what do i know lol

68816419:

Bellow are the ARIEL VIEWS pictures of the these towns, remove their tiny CBDs and u are left with full blown slums, now remove Abuja CBD and u still find other developed parts such as Maitama,Wuse1&2,Garki,Gwarimpa,Asokoro,Apo,Utako,Jabi.......
1- Bird eye views of Windhoek(the only developed parts)
2- Zambia (areas surrounding the very tiny CBD)
3-Cario Egypt( slums , no greening )
4-gaborone aerial view(including all its nicest,tall buildings)

..
U shouldn't have included Cairo though... It's a powerhouse!
But all those yeye Southern and East African cities with their tiny CBD and villages can't compare to Lagos or Abuja

Kigali,Windhoek,Gabbrone,Maseru,Mbabe,Llilonwe, Kampala.....they are big towns with some skyscrapers here and there

Shma:
what Austine1213 has posted is a true reflection of world class city.
By African standard, S. A is waaay ahead,
I bet Nairobi will reach there one day,

In African class they are hierarchies and levels..know your level on that scale pls..

You may say this is madness. But it is a just a marketing strategy......you need to think deep to understand. ..

Ghana has on Friday organised an event to remember George Floyd.

The event was organized by Ghana’s Ministry of Tourism and the Diaspora African Forum at Dubois Centre, Accra and was attended by some key government and creative industry personalities.

jln115:
you are confusing development with infastructure..... Development is more than just pure infastructure like buildings and skyscrapers.... Its everything from healthcare, education, housing, Internet connectivity, power supply, sewage ect ect.

From a far Lagos looks very well developed by African standards however how many people have access to power or sewage in Lagos? How many have access to Internet? Access to proper transport?access to education?

Smaller cities like Auckland can be just as or even more developed than cities like NY without having the large flashy buildings, since a larger % of its citizens have more and better quality access to the things mentioned above.

1- 90 of lagosian have access to water is (Privately or by government )
2- over 90% houses in Lagos are connected to electricity and also Lagos is currently building 3kMW of electricity
3-MainOne's Global Internet and other network providing companies are all over Lagos and in Nigeria at large and majority of lagosian have very cheap access to them
4-No city out side SA and Morocco in Africa has better transportation and educational facilities than Lagos

I don’t eat eat rat but why are you so concerned if other people eat rat? The Chinese, your masters eat worse things Kenyans drink cow blood,right? And you like it,right? Do I start flogging your stvpid azz because you drink cow blood? that is your fvcking business, mudder fugger there are far more grave matters to deal with in your sh1thole than eating rats, I bet you

rvp2018:
Loolk at South Africa - and all they had is nothing more than what Ghana has. But if you're an idiot - contended to eat cane-rat as a delicacy - you'll continue eating rats.

68816419:

Bellow are the ARIEL VIEWS pictures of the these towns, remove their tiny CBDs and u are left with full blown slums, now remove Abuja CBD and u still find other developed parts such as Maitama,Wuse1&2,Garki,Gwarimpa,Asokoro,Apo,Utako,Jabi.......
1- Bird eye views of Windhoek(the only developed parts)
2- Zambia (areas surrounding the very tiny CBD)
3-Cario Egypt( slums , no greening )
4-gaborone aerial view(including all its nicest,tall buildings)

Selective

samorobo:


Good next time don't compare your ugly ,faded, dusty mess with what we have okay..

Aim Nigeria,if you can..

yeah please, don't do it again.
Your ugly ashy road with zebra crossing everywhere is not a kenyan thing.
How can we aim nigeria when Kenya is already ahead of her.?
Bro, I should be the one telling you that, aim at kenya cos kenya is aiming at S. A.

Now that you have exhausted minerals - you are growing at -1 or 1 %. South Africa is going down.

Austine1212:


Countries moving to service economy and you still thinking of extractions as the it thing lol

Anyway what do i know lol

68816419:

1- 90 of lagosian have access to water is (Privately or by government )
2- over 90% houses in Lagos are connected to electricity and also Lagos is currently building 3kMW of electricity
3-MainOne's Global Internet and other network providing companies are all over Lagos and in Nigeria at large and majority of lagosian have very cheap access to them
4-No city out side SA and Morocco in Africa has better transportation and educational facilities than Lagos

Nice opinion bro

samorobo:


Lol you are always establishing fact about Abuja a long term ago...
Just enjoy Abuja and stop wailing mombasa will get there someday



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJQsal6geJc

If you want morwe you can always ask

nice road.,
The rest are mosques and pillars.