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Who Is A Virgin? by janeedema(f): 10:14am On Jun 09, 2020
A virgin is someone who has never done it before -- Dr Myes Munroe.

Oh...it's absolutely fine if "it" in that definition means sex to you. However, "it" could mean a variety of things.

If you've never driven a car before... you are a virgin to driving cars.
If you've never anchored an event before...you are a virgin in that area.
If you've never cooked before, you're a virgin in that aspect.
The list goes on...

Now, I believe the definition of virginity in this context is clear.

Here's the thing about God.

He's very interested in virgins. He hardly ever gives people tasks or assignments on things they have experience in.

And you know why?

So, you won't carry out the task without depending on Him. If the assignment God is calling you to do looks like one you can find the answers on Google, then you need to be doubly sure that God is the one sending you to embark on it.

Mary the mother of Jesus was saddled with the assignment of birthing the messiah-- she was a virgin as far as that assignment was concerned.
Elizabeth the mother of John the Baptist was tasked with birthing the forerunner of Jesus Christ at old age-- clearly a miracle child and a virgin project.
Jesus insisted on an ass that no one has ridden to drive him into Jerusalem.
God declared everything that opens the womb of man or beast sacred.

What do all these mean to you?

The purpose for which God created you is akin to you, as it was with Mary and Elizabeth, which is why He always directs you to who can help you nurture it.

And the Angel Gabriel said to Mary, ...and Elizabeth is pregnant. Why didn't he say, your brother's wife is pregnant or one of your girlfriends is pregnant.

He was key about Elizabeth, because who helps you nurture the vision or purpose for which God has called you can either break or launch you.

Don't give up on that vision God has laid in your heart. Ask God where your Elizabeth is who can help nurse your dream to fruition.

Most people choose mentors by sight and spiritual leaders by the size of a congregation. This is so wrong; don't be a part of that.

If Mary were to choose a mentor, I believe you wouldn't have chosen an old barren woman. Don't forget Elizabeth at that time was hiding inside the house ashamed of being pregnant at old age. So, no one knew she was with child at old age.

But the angel knew that Mary's assignment and immaculate conception could only be believed and nurtured by someone who was also carrying a vision that was similar to hers.

If Mary had talked to friends or people who weren't tasked with a similar calling, they would have either jeered at her, calling her a cheat or made her think the vision she was tasked with was impossible.

Ask God to choose your mentors to help you nurture your purpose. He gave you the assignment, He alone knows who would better help you nurse it.

The angel didn't send Mary to Anna...remember her? The woman who became a widow very early and resolved to stay in the temple living her life by praying and fasting for the coming of the messiah.

Anna was a spiritual person living in the temple, but God didn't send Mary to her.

Don't choose mentors because they look spiritual; some people's call no matter how spiritual may not align with God's calling for your life. So, instead of nurturing you, they will feel threatened by you. Remember the story of David and Saul?

On the other hand, if you have no idea what your purpose on earth is, I urge you to go ask your maker. Because God is only committed to providing for His vision in Your life. And as sure as He lives, He wants you to know why you are here. And by the way that's what the definition of purpose is: Why am I here?

Re: Who Is A Virgin? by Kobojunkie: 6:54pm On Jun 09, 2020
janeedema:
Don't choose mentors because they look spiritual; some people's call no matter how spiritual may not align with God's calling for your life. So, instead of nurturing you, they will feel threatened by you. Remember the story of David and Saul?

On the other hand, if you have no idea what your purpose on earth is, I urge you to go ask your maker. Because God is only committed to providing for His vision in Your life. And as sure as He lives, He wants you to know why you are here. And by the way that's what the definition of purpose is: Why am I here?
Mentors? Did Jesus command any of His disciples to pick mentors? Why do you listen to teachings from people who are themselves in disobedience to God?

Matthew 23 vs 8-12
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8. But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brothers.[c]
9. And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven.
10. Neither be called instructors, for you have one instructor, the Christ.
11. The greatest among you shall be your servant.
12. Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.
Jesus, by commanding the above, placed Himself as the only teacher and mentor His followers ever needed. Why model your life and existence after that of an equally fallen being, whose heart you have no means of peering into? You have no way of ascertaining whether these "mentors" of yours are anything but blind guides, something Jesus warned about... why not simply obey Jesus in all things? undecided


Matthew 15 vs 13-14
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13. Jesus answered, “Every plant that my Father in heaven has not planted will be pulled up by the roots.
14. Stay away from the Pharisees. They lead the people, but they are like blind men leading other blind men. And if a blind man leads another blind man, both of them will fall into a ditch.”
Re: Who Is A Virgin? by Ovicerealestate(m): 11:03am On Jul 13, 2020
I get your point. And it's well noted.

Firstly let me define who a mentor is:

Who is a mentor?

A mentor is a person or friend who guides a less experienced person by building trust and modeling positive behaviors. An effective mentor understands that his or her role is to be dependable, engaged, authentic, and tuned into the needs of the mentee.

In Jer 13:5, the Bible says: God will give men pastors(shepherd) after His heart.

Like I already mentioned, choosing mentors including who pastors you shouldn't be done carnally.

God doesn't have an issue with men having people they model. And that's why He chooses for us, if we let Him.

Paul mentored Timothy, and went as far as calling him his son.
Prohet Elijah mentored Prohet Elisha.- the Bible says Elisha poured water in the hands of Elijah.
Elisha also went ahead to mentor Gehazi
Prophet Samuel was mentored by Prophet Eli.
King David mentored Absalom and later prepared Solomon for the throne.
John the baptist had disciples he was mentoring. Remember when they left him to follow Jesus?
Jesus chose his disciples for mentorship
Most parents also provide mentorship for their kids.

Truth is, we are all products of mentorship; whether passively or actively.

It's okay if you don't fancy the term, or like the fact that God can raise a man to be a blessing to you, so you become a blessing to others.

But don't undermine the place of mentorship. It will take you a far lesser time to arrive at your destination.

Again, my message is clear: choose only because you were led to.

When God wants to answer your prayers, most often, he sends you men. You decide the role they play in your life.

Have you ever heard this quote: when the student is ready, the teacher will appear?

Just as some of us are in different level of understanding God's word and need those who are better equipped in devising the word of righteousness (the Bible calls them Elders)

So also do we need an Elizabeth to better furnish what we carry.

Sometimes, the Lord may lead you to someone's works-- books and messages and ask that you digest it. That is mentorship.

We can't reinvent the wheel. And that's not just a fact but the truth.

Again, it's common fact that are in a very prideful generation, where most of us have issue with submission.

Nevertheless, it doesn't undermine the place for mentorship.
embarassed

What do you think your parents provide you? Yet are they void of mistakes? Are they perfect?




.quote author=Kobojunkie post=90489979]
Mentors? Did Jesus command any of His disciples to pick mentors? Why do you listen to teachings from people who are themselves in disobedience to God?

Jesus, by commanding the above, placed Himself as the only teacher and mentor His followers ever needed. Why model your life and existence after that of an equally fallen being, whose heart you have no means of peering into? You have no way of ascertaining whether these "mentors" of yours are anything but blind guides, something Jesus warned about... why not simply obey Jesus in all things? undecided

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Re: Who Is A Virgin? by Kobojunkie: 2:25pm On Jul 13, 2020
Ovicerealestate:
I get your point. And it's well noted.

Firstly let me define who a mentor is:

Who is a mentor?

A mentor is a person or friend who guides a less experienced person by building trust and modeling positive behaviors. An effective mentor understands that his or her role is to be dependable, engaged, authentic, and tuned into the needs of the mentee.
Isn't this the role Jesus played in the lives of His disciples?

Isn't this the role the Spirit of God, who Jesus Christ said would stand in His place in our lives is meant to play?

Ovicerealestate:

In Jer 13:5, the Bible says: God will give men pastors(shepherd) after His heart.
Jeremiah 13 vs 5 says no such thing.
Ovicerealestate:

Like I already mentioned, choosing mentors including who pastors you shouldn't be done carnally.

You truly believe that it is possible to choose a human guide for your life, in like manner as is done in the world of men, through the help of God, completely overruling His own Spirit in your life?

You believe that the very God who declared in Jeremiah 17 vs 5 that cursed is any man who puts his trust in another man and makes flesh and blood his strength, sidestepping God in the process, is going to aid you in disobeying Him?

Ovicerealestate:

God doesn't have an issue with men having people they model. And that's why He chooses for us, if we let Him.

Paul mentored Timothy, and went as far as calling him his son.
Prohet Elijah mentored Prohet Elisha.- the Bible says Elisha poured water in the hands of Elijah.
Elisha also went ahead to mentor Gehazi
Prophet Samuel was mentored by Prophet Eli.
King David mentored Absalom and later prepared Solomon for the throne.
If you say so.
Ovicerealestate:

John the baptist had disciples he was mentoring. Remember when they left him to follow Jesus?
Jesus chose his disciples for mentorship
Most parents also provide mentorship for their kids.
God is ok with man puttting His trust in another man in the name of mentorship? God must have been sleepy or high when He said there was a curse on anyone who did such then.

Ovicerealestate:

Truth is, we are all products of mentorship; whether passively or actively.

It's okay if you don't fancy the term, or like the fact that God can raise a man to be a blessing to you, so you become a blessing to others.
Not all of us have mentors in the way to define it though. Many out there do not put there trust in humans or the decisions of humans.

Many determined at an early age that those they called parents were there to care for them but as humans, by default, are not to be trusted.

Many who are in God understand exactly why even those who provide us help in one area or another are stil not humans and not to be trusted... only God holds that place of trust in their lives.

Many in the world under stand that humans are not meant to have the burden of trust placed on them either, since they understand that by default, we are not made to have full control over our lives and decisions and so trust remains too big a responsibility to place on humans.

So why do you assume we are all products of mentors? Because you want to believe that?

Ovicerealestate:

But don't undermine the place of mentorship. It will take you a far lesser time to arrive at your destination.

Again, my message is clear: choose only because you were led to.

When God wants to answer your prayers, most often, he sends you men. You decide the role they play in your life.
God does not decide the role those men play in your life as far as answering your prayers are concerned, but you do?
Ovicerealestate:

Have you ever heard this quote: when the student is ready, the teacher will appear?
Never!

Ovicerealestate:

Just as some of us are in different level of understanding God's word and need those who are better equipped in devising the word of righteousness (the Bible calls them Elders)

So also do we need an Elizabeth to better furnish what we carry.

Sometimes, the Lord may lead you to someone's works-- books and messages and ask that you digest it. That is mentorship.
He leads you to the work so you can trust it because of who wrote it or to trust in Him that lead you to that particular work and not the person who wrote it?
Ovicerealestate:

We can't reinvent the wheel. And that's not just a fact but the truth.

Again, it's common fact that are in a very prideful generation, where most of us have issue with submission.
Submission to whom though? God or men?
Ovicerealestate:

Nevertheless, it doesn't undermine the place for mentorship.
embarassed

What do you think your parents provide you? Yet are they void of mistakes? Are they perfect?
My parents were not mentors. Maybe yours were to you.

If your trust is in men and you depend on them to lead you aright, what role then does the Spirit of God play in your life? Leading you to more men?

Jesus Christ, the example we follow never lead His disciples to men in order to get answers to prayers and all. He told them that God would be their focus and their only focus. Even before He left them, He provided them a guide, helper, counselor, comforter, teacher for every need pf theirs. He didn't send them to men.

But since you desire to have men instead to mentor you, and not the Spirit of God, what role is He then to play in you?

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