Janosky:
Acts7:59, you claim Stephen prayed to Jesus. The same Greek word (EPIKALEO) is in Acts 25:11.
Bros, do you agree that Paul prayed to Caesar?
Does Greek EPIKALEO in Acts 7:59 mean "prayer"?

One can only marvel at your ignorance and manipulation of the Holy Bible, and that's because the god of this world has blindfolded your mind.

According to your own attached...

EPIKALEO is to CALL UPON...INVOKE(for aid, worship) e.t.c

So why will Stephen CALL UPON/INVOKE Jesus when we're not to do so?

Or is it proper to INVOKE/Call upon Jesus?

Contemporary English Version, Rev 5:8
After he had taken it, the four living creatures and the 24 elders knelt down before him. Each of them had a harp and a gold bowl full of incense, which are the prayers of God's people."

[b]You no dey diguoh (knee down, bow, prostrate) for your Elders or parents ?
Na worship you dey worship them ?
Revelations 5:10, did the 24 Elders and the Lamb (Jesus) worship the same God in heaven?
Is that God, Jesus Christ?
Bros,Rev5:14, the 24 Elders WORSHIPPED the God of the Lamb, NOT the Lamb. (Revelations 19:4, Bible truth).

So where was Jesus said to be an ELDER in that verse that some ELDERS still bow to Him?

Where in that vs5 that said the Lamb and the elders worshipped the same God? Kai....just see your lying mouth jumping.

See the way you're jumping that verse 13 because you know that "all the living creatures and the 24 elders did the same thing for both Who sitted upon the throne and the Lamb"

When the same Rev 22:1 even makes it clear that the THRONE BELONGS TO God and the Lamb.

Ole.... vs14 they worshipped "...Him that LIVETH forever and ever" and when you also know that Jesus LIVETH forever and ever.

Bros, Matthew 4:10 is IMMUTABLE, you hear?
[/b]
Why is the truth so difficult for you to CONFESS?

Was Matt 4:10 removed from Russell and his team of pagan worshippers that made them to Worship and Prayed to Jesus?

Peacefullove:
Mumu , U don arrive after your vacation ... Have you now gotten the verse where Jesus is called our God now ? Still No ?

Was God making False Gods when he called us Gods ? Mumu

Silly man.
Just as you didnt believe humans are false Gods, do you actually agree God was making false Gods?

The verse you reference was about human rulers who are making wrong Judgement on behalf of God. So they are false God that's even why the next verse Called on the TRUE GOD to execute His true judgement on the source CALLED gods.

God will execute His judgement on the source called gods, will Jesus part of them?

Can you see how your lack of scriptural understanding is leading you into more trouble?

Where is " OUR GOD " in those verses ??

What God is Jesus if He's not OUR God?

Where am I called Jesus son? Are you okay at all?

But you're Jesus sheep

Nobody is ever called Jesus son. Take it today! Jesus is not the creator. That is why you will never see anyone addressed as his son

Jesus is our Creator! John 1:3

What of Abraham who we were called his son, does that make him God?

What is the significant of being EVERLASTING FATHER?

Did what the Father has belongs to the Son?

These are the questions you'll continue to dodge because you know they prove you to be a liar like your father the devil.

He came to give everlasting life , the same reason he became our brother according to you

So now it's "he BECAME" not that He was initially our BROTHER, you can see your hypocritical lying mouth being exposed. Isn't that what I said earlier that He wasn't our brother not until He became human?

Just imagine "EVERLASTING FATHER suddenly translated to He came to give everlasting life"

At least show me where anyone is called Jesus son ?

because He's your Everlasting Father

I have not seen where someone will be called a father without having a child.

U already stated a reason. So coming to save man make him our brother NOT Father ??

" He called humans His brothers and sisters because He came to save them" - Emusan

It seems your head has issues when u are trying to use Isaiah 9:6, cos it clearly said shall/will be called . now its Brothers

Idiot....was that only attribute that was applied to Jesus throughout the Bible?

Jesus is our EVERLASTING FATHER, I know you're not His son that's why He will discard you on that day.

Just like I said, I will post your demonic organization comment about Isa 9:6 and what they express about the team "Everlasting Father"

Emusan:


The verse you reference was about human rulers who are making wrong Judgement on behalf of God. So they are false God that's even why the next verse Called on the TRUE GOD to execute His true judgement on the source CALLED gods.

God will execute His judgement on the source called gods, will Jesus part of them?

Can you see how your lack of scriptural understanding is leading you into more trouble?

Good story telling skills ,

Here is the verse Mr scriptural understanding

" I -- I have said, 'Gods ye are, And sons of the Most High -- all of you, "

Look at the bold, I HAVE SAID ... Was God making False God ??

What God is Jesus if He's not OUR God?

What God are those humans whom God made God ?

But you're Jesus sheep
Jesus is our Creator! John 1:3

Jesus is not the Creator , Nobody is his sons !!! Agent is not creator

What of Abraham who we were called his son, does that make him God?

Does that make him OUR GOD ?

What is the significant of being EVERLASTING FATHER?

He will be called Everlasting Father because God sent him to pay for mans sin ( John 3:16)

Did what the Father has belongs to the Son?

Jesus himself Belong to who ?

These are the questions you'll continue to dodge because you know they prove you to be a liar like your father the devil.

If Devil is not using you, Show me where Jesus is called OUR GOD ?

So now it's "he BECAME" not that He was initially our BROTHER, you can see your hypocritical lying mouth being exposed. Isn't that what I said earlier that He wasn't our brother not until He became human?

Use your glasses, I wrote " according to you "

So how could he be Father and brother at the same time ? point of correction he has always been our brother.


New Living Translation
" So now Jesus and the ones he makes holy have the same Father. That is why Jesus is not ashamed to call them his brothers and sisters. "

Reset your thinking

Just imagine "EVERLASTING FATHER suddenly translated to He came to give everlasting life"



because He's your Everlasting Father

I have not seen where someone will be called a father without having a child.

Who are Jesus sons ??

Idiot....was that only attribute that was applied to Jesus throughout the Bible?

Jesus is our EVERLASTING FATHER, I know you're not His son that's why He will discard you on that day.

Just like I said, I will post your demonic organization comment about Isa 9:6 and what they express about the team "Everlasting Father"

Jesus is our brother NOt Father ... That alone is exposing you for the lair u are

Show me where anyone is called Jesus son ?? You are the real demonic person

Peacefullove:
Good story telling skills ,

Here is the verse Mr scriptural understanding

" I -- I have said, 'Gods ye are, And sons of the Most High -- all of you, "

Look at the bold, I HAVE SAID ... Was God making False God ??

What God are those humans whom God made God ?

The next verse "But Ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes"

So it's evident here that this are all false god!

What God is Jesus if He wasn't OUR God?

Jesus is not the Creator , Nobody is his sons !!! Agent is not creator

Jesus is the Creator of Heavens and the earth

But who performed the action, if Agent isn't creator?

Jesus has Children Heb 2:13 Just like I said before, you're not one of His children so you might not regard Him as your father.

Does that make him OUR GOD?

Idiotic person, were you not the one who was saying since Jesus doesn't have son or anyone called His son means He can't be our God....

So since Abraham has son that should make him OUR GOD...

He will be called Everlasting Father because God sent him to pay for mans sin ( John 3:16)

So how can someone who doesn't have a son be called FATHER not to talk of EVERLASTING Father?

I'm still laughing at your delusion of how Everlasting FATHER suddenly became paying for man's sin.

This is what your deluded organization said "Why is Jesus properly called “Eternal Father”?

Jesus was also to be an “Eternal Father.”How would that be? Well, Adam was the first father of the human race. However, he lost the opportunity to be an “eternal father” when he sinned. He could no longer give his children everlasting life as an inheritance. Jesus, on the other hand, did not sin. And by sacrificing his sinless life for mankind, he opened the way to everlasting life for those who exercised faith. ( John 3:16; 1 John 2:2 ) He thus will give them the everlasting life that Adam failed to give them. Hence, the Bible calls him “the last Adam,” “a life-giving spirit.” ( 1 Corinthians 15:45 ) He is properly called the “Eternal Father” of the future perfect human race.


https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1983725

Jesus himself Belong to who ?

Idiot answer my question and stop being silly using question to ask question...


Did anything belong to the Father belong to Christ?

If Devil is not using you, Show me where Jesus is called OUR GOD?

We all know who is working for the devil here...

I've shown you different verses.

I can also see how you boycotted my question "Where was Jesus called Angel Micheal in the scripture?"

Use your glasses, I wrote " according to you "

So how could he be Father and brother at the same time ?

He became brother by sharing in the Human Nature of the very Adam.

He remains our EVERLASTING FATHER in place of Adam.

So how many Father do you have?

Who are Jesus sons ??

All those who He rescued from the pan of sin caused by the first father-Adam so Jesus is the second Adam....which make Him OUR FATHER.

Jesus is our brother NOt Father ... That alone is exposing you for the lair u are

No wonder you're not one of His Children because all those Jesus rescued from the sun of Adam we're All His sons and daughters.

because He's now the Second Adam

Show me where anyone is called Jesus son ?? You are the real demonic person

Heb 2:13 and also Jesus is the second Adam that's why we must be BORN AGAIN through Christ.

Since you're not born again how will you even recognize Him as your Father?

And that's actually what the devil your father wants.

Emusan:


The next verse "But Ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes"

So it's evident here that this are all false god!

What God is Jesus if He wasn't OUR God?

Who made the False Gods ? Focus on " I have said "

Jesus is the Creator of Heavens and the earth

But who performed the action, if Agent isn't creator?

One God, the Father , from whom all things are . u can rest please

This is why Nobody is Jesus sons.

Jesus has Children Heb 2:13 Just like I said before, you're not one of His children so you might not regard Him as your father.

Jesus himself said I have ONE FATHER not two . You need to be schooled

Hebrew 2:13 doesnt support your claim , The Creator need nobody to give him children.

Idiotic person, were you not the one who was saying since Jesus doesn't have son or anyone called His son means He can't be our God....

So since Abraham has son that should make him OUR GOD...

What your head didnt tell you was not even Abraham sons are his, children are a gift from who according to your Bible ?

So how can someone who doesn't have a son be called FATHER not to talk of EVERLASTING Father?

Devil was called FATHER , does that means he own or created those he called Father or figurative ?

Use sense na

I'm still laughing at your delusion of how Everlasting FATHER suddenly became paying for man's sin.

This is what your deluded organization said "Why is Jesus properly called “Eternal Father”?

Jesus was also to be an “Eternal Father.”How would that be? Well, Adam was the first father of the human race. However, he lost the opportunity to be an “eternal father” when he sinned. He could no longer give his children everlasting life as an inheritance. Jesus, on the other hand, did not sin. And by sacrificing his sinless life for mankind, he opened the way to everlasting life for those who exercised faith. ( John 3:16; 1 John 2:2 ) He thus will give them the everlasting life that Adam failed to give them. Hence, the Bible calls him “the last Adam,” “a life-giving spirit.” ( 1 Corinthians 15:45 ) He is properly called the “Eternal Father” of the future perfect human race.


https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1983725



Idiot answer my question and stop being silly using question to ask question...


Did anything belong to the Father belong to Christ?

Does the Father call anyone his brothers ?

We all know who is working for the devil here...

I've shown you different verses.

I can also see how you boycotted my question "Where was Jesus called Angel Micheal in the scripture?"

He became brother by sharing in the Human Nature of the very Adam.

Nope, Hebrew 2 vs 11 says he called them brothers because they all have the same Father. Are you saying Jesus didnt have a Father before coming to earth ?

He remains our EVERLASTING FATHER in place of Adam.

So how many Father do you have?

Just one.

His Fatherhood is figurative. He has no sons, the worse is he was given sons , that means HE IS NOT THE OWNER . further proof he is not our God

All those who He rescued from the pan of sin caused by the first father-Adam so Jesus is the second Adam....which make Him OUR FATHER.

He isn't our Father ... Neither are we his children, we are BROTHERS.

No wonder you're not one of His Children because all those Jesus rescued from the sun of Adam we're All His sons and daughters.

because He's now the Second Adam

Figurative , are we not his brothers ?

You can't be brother to your Father.

Heb 2:13 and also Jesus is the second Adam that's why we must be BORN AGAIN through Christ.

Since you're not born again how will you even recognize Him as your Father?

And that's actually what the devil your father wants.

Nobody is called Jesus sons. To make it worse you even gave a verse that said he was GIVEN chidren , showing he didnt Own them , cos they are STill his BROTHERS .

Janosky:


Acts7:59, you claim Stephen prayed to Jesus. The same Greek word (EPIKALEO) is in Acts 25:11.
Bros, do you agree that Paul prayed to Caesar?
Does Greek EPIKALEO in Acts 7:59 mean "prayer"?


Contemporary English Version, Rev 5:8
After he had taken it, the four living creatures and the 24 elders knelt down before him. Each of them had a harp and a gold bowl full of incense, which are the prayers of God's people."

You no dey diguoh (knee down, bow, prostrate) for your Elders or parents ?
Na worship you dey worship them ?
Revelations 5:10, did the 24 Elders and the Lamb (Jesus) worship the same God in heaven?
Is that God, Jesus Christ?
Bros,Rev5:14, the 24 Elders WORSHIPPED the God of the Lamb, NOT the Lamb. (Revelations 19:4, Bible truth).

Bros, Matthew 4:10 is IMMUTABLE, you hear?

Why is the truth so difficult for you to CONFESS?

Lol, you funny die!

See your Omni-Correct NWT

*. Revelation 5 8 " When he took the scroll, the four living creatures and the 24 elders+ FELL DOWN BEFORE THE LAMB, and each one had a harp and golden bowls that were full of incense. (The incense means the prayers of the holy ones.)

please can you tell the public here clearly that:

1. Fall down/kneel down doesn't mean worship.

2. Before the lamb means before Jehovah.

3. Epikaleo means shouting at?

Moreover, what the elders do there is the same with what John does here,

*. Revelation 19:10 "KJV:And I FELL at HIS feet to WORSHIP him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.


FATHER/SON IS THE SHEPHERD:

*. Psalms 23:1 "
KJV:The LORD is my SHEPHERD; I shall not want.(i.e the Father)

*. John 10:11 'KJV:I AM THE GOOD SHEPHERD: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.(i.e the Son)

KNOWMORE56:



Lol, you funny die!

See your Omni-Correct NWT

*. Revelation 5 8 " When he took the scroll, the four living creatures and the 24 elders+ FELL DOWN BEFORE THE LAMB, and each one had a harp and golden bowls that were full of incense. (The incense means the prayers of the holy ones.)

please can you tell the public here clearly that:

1. Fall down/kneel down doesn't mean worship.

2. Before the lamb means before Jehovah.

3. Epikaleo means shouting at?

Moreover, what the elders do there is the same with what John does here,

*. Revelation 19:10 "KJV:And I FELL at HIS feet to WORSHIP him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.


FATHER/SON IS THE SHEPHERD:

*. Psalms 23:1 "
KJV:The LORD is my SHEPHERD; I shall not want.(i.e the Father)

*. John 10:11 'KJV:I AM THE GOOD SHEPHERD: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.(i.e the Son)

Jehovah God is the God and Father of the Lamb, Jesus Christ in heaven. Rev 5:10. 3:5,12,21.

Jehovah is NOT the Lamb.


Contemporary English Version, Rev 5:8
After he had taken it, the four living creatures and the 24 elders knelt down before him. Each of them had a harp and a gold bowl full of incense, which are the prayers of God's people."

Bros, the 24 Elders knelt down to pay homage to the Lamb.
The same thing you do for your family/Town Elders or your Kabiyesi

Revelation 19:10 "KJV:And I FELL at HIS feet to WORSHIP him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: WORSHIP God: .

Revelations 19:10 the Angel's advice to John is the same advice that Janosky gives to you.
"WORSHIP GOD" not the Lamb.


John10:18 " This command I have RECEIVED from my Father" (Matthew 4:10).
The good Shepherd OBEYS the command of our Supreme Shepherd, Jehovah God.
Bros, please do the same.
Stubbornness no good when the truth is crystal clear to you.

Joshua 24:15 as for Janosky and his household, we shall continue to WORSHIP & PRAISE Jehovah, the God and Father and Shepherd of our Lord Jesus Christ. Ephesians 1:3.
Hallelujah !!!!

Bros, the ball is in your court.

EPIKALEO is explained in the screenshots

Shalom and God bless.

Janosky:

Jehovah God is the God and Father of the Lamb, Jesus Christ in heaven. Rev 5:10. 3:5,12,21.

Jehovah is NOT the Lamb.


Contemporary English Version, Rev 5:8
After he had taken it, the four living creatures and the 24 elders knelt down before him. Each of them had a harp and a gold bowl full of incense, which are the prayers of God's people."

Bros, the 24 Elders knelt down to pay homage to the Lamb.
The same thing you do for your family/Town Elders or your Kabiyesi

Revelation 19:10 "KJV:And I FELL at HIS feet to WORSHIP him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: WORSHIP God: .

Revelations 19:10 the Angel's advice to John is the same advice that Janosky gives to you.
"WORSHIP GOD" not the Lamb.


John10:18 " This command I have RECEIVED from my Father" (Matthew 4:10).
The good Shepherd OBEYS the command of our Supreme Shepherd, Jehovah God.
Bros, please do the same.
Stubbornness no good when the truth is crystal clear to you.

Joshua 24:15 as for Janosky and his household, we shall continue to WORSHIP & PRAISE Jehovah, the God and Father and Shepherd of our Lord Jesus Christ. Ephesians 1:3.
Hallelujah !!!!

Bros, the ball is in your court.

EPIKALEO is explained in the screenshots

Shalom and God bless.

When you see church kneel before the Son and EPIKALEO,

Do you and your organization see them as paying homage to the Son,

Or they are false Christians giving worship to the one not qualified to receive worship?

The reason I ask you to tell the public whether the Lamb is Jehovah,

You said that it's Jehovah that the 4 beasts and the 24 elders are worshipping.

But the Bible says they fell down before the lamb.

What I want you to know in Revelation 19 :10 is that angels can't receive worship.

Anytime you see a bieng ( inform of lamb, angel, human, etc) received worship successfully,

Know that the true God has just changed Himself to such a being.

The people were only saying 'it is the voice of God'

*. Acts 12: 23-24 "
KJV:And the people gave a shout, saying, IT IS THE VOICE of a GOD, and not of a man.
23
KJV:And immediately the ANGEL of the LORD SMOTE him, BECAUSE HE gave NOT God THE GLORY: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.


This lead to the death of Herod.

God can never share His GLORY with another.

If He does, He had told us a lie.

you can see that the Son is receiving prayers of all the saints.

Almost all the versions agreed that the incense are the prayers of the saints.

Their prayers are directly to the Son.

The truth is 1×1×1=1

One God increased/extended/multiply Himself,

and He still remains the same.

If you are to list all the properties of one, none of the them will miss anything.

Janosky:


Acts7:59, you claim Stephen prayed to Jesus. The same Greek word (EPIKALEO) is in Acts 25:11.
Bros, do you agree that Paul prayed to Caesar?
Does Greek EPIKALEO in Acts 7:59 mean "prayer"?


Contemporary English Version, Rev 5:8
After he had taken it, the four living creatures and the 24 elders knelt down before him. Each of them had a harp and a gold bowl full of incense, which are the prayers of God's people."

You no dey diguoh (knee down, bow, prostrate) for your Elders or parents ?
Na worship you dey worship them ?
Revelations 5:10, did the 24 Elders and the Lamb (Jesus) worship the same God in heaven?
Is that God, Jesus Christ?
Bros,Rev5:14, the 24 Elders WORSHIPPED the God of the Lamb, NOT the Lamb. (Revelations 19:4, Bible truth).

Bros, Matthew 4:10 is IMMUTABLE, you hear?

Why is the truth so difficult for you to CONFESS?

Father x Son x Holy Ghost = Almighty God

One of the reasons for this increasement/multiplication is to achieve redemption for the children of men.

When redemption is completed, the increasement/multiplication will be cancelled:

*. 1 Corinthians 15:28 "KJV:And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

The true God increased/multiply/extended Himself,

but His quality remains intact.

Jesus says if you don't believe that he is He

You will die in your sins.

*. John 8:24 "KJV:I said therefore unto you, that YE SHALL die in your sins: for IF YE BELIEVE not that I AM HE, ye shall die in your SINS.

Why do you want to die in your sins, o Janosky?

*. Ezekiel 33:11 "KJV:Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for WHY WILL ye die, O house of Israel?

Peacefullove:
Mumu , U don arrive after your vacation ... Have you now gotten the verse where Jesus is called our God now ? Still No ?


Was God making False Gods when he called us Gods ? Mumu


Silly man.
Just as you didnt believe humans are false Gods, do you actually agree God was making false Gods ?


Where is " OUR GOD " in those verses ??



Where am I called Jesus son ? Are you okay at all ?



Nobody is ever called Jesus son. Take it today! Jesus is not the creator. That is why you will never see anyone addressed as his son



He came to give everlasting life , the same reason he became our brother according to you .



At least show me where anyone is called Jesus son ?



U already stated a reason. So coming to save man make him our brother NOT Father ??

" He called humans His brothers and sisters because He came to save them" - Emusan

It seems your head has issues when u are trying to use Isaiah 9:6, cos it clearly said shall/will be called . now its Brothers

Jesus is called God in Isaiah 9:6.... Mumu no dey dribble urself

Maximus69:


You try!

So what's the aftereffect of all these your quotations in the midst of Trinitarians when you people don't even have LOVE, JOY and PEACE in your gatherings? James 2:18-26

O maximus69, it unfortunate that you have sold yourself to the organization through oath.

Each group have LOVE, JOY and PEACE among themselves.

The GB manipulate you to see all other groups as one.

But you can help yourself with the following:

The Catholic Church is a group of its own.

So it is with Dunamis, CAC,MOFM, DLBC, etc.

If anything happens within each group, they settle it there and continue.

This is why each of them have existed till date.

I would like you to know that even occult group do have LOVE, JOY and PEACE WITHIN themselves.

Consider what the greatest Teacher says:

EVEN SINNERS DO THE SAME

*. Luke 6: 33 "KJV:And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for SINNERS ALSO DO EVEN THE SAME.

*. Mark 3:24 "KJV:And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.

So you can

KNOWMORE56:


Father x Son x Holy Ghost = Almighty God

One of the reasons for this increasement/multiplication is to achieve redemption for the children of men.

When redemption is completed, the increasement/multiplication will be cancelled:

*. 1 Corinthians 15:28 "KJV:And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

The true God increased/multiply/extended Himself,

but His quality remains intact.

Jesus says if you don't believe that he is He

You will die in your sins.

*. John 8:24 "KJV:I said therefore unto you, that YE SHALL die in your sins: for IF YE BELIEVE not that I AM HE, ye shall die in your SINS.

Why do you want to die in your sins, o Janosky?

*. Ezekiel 33:11 "KJV:Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for WHY WILL ye die, O house of Israel?

Y u worry urself for Janosky....my pple say fly way no dey hear word dey follow corpse enta grave. E no believe in Jesus. E no fit confess as him saviour and God. Even after Isaiah don prophesy am say an Mighty God, e still dey argue. Leave am

Maximus69:


You try!

So what's the aftereffect of all these your quotations in the midst of Trinitarians when you people don't even have LOVE, JOY and PEACE in your gatherings? James 2:18-26

O maximus69, it's unfortunate that you have sold yourself to the organization through oath.

Each group have LOVE, JOY and PEACE among themselves.

The GB manipulate you to see all other groups as one.

But you can help yourself with the following:

The Catholic Church is a group of its own.

So it is with Dunamis, CAC,MOFM, DLBC, etc.

If anything happens within each group, they settle it there and continue.

This is why each of them have existed till date.

I would like you to know that even occult group do have LOVE, JOY and PEACE WITHIN themselves.

Consider what the greatest Teacher says:

EVEN SINNERS DO THE SAME

*. Luke 6: 33 "KJV:And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for SINNERS ALSO DO EVEN THE SAME.

*. Mark 3:24 "KJV:And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.

So you can see that each group (whether godly or not) have love, Joy and peace WITHIN themselves.

But my Bible shows me where I can get/have true/lasting PEACE.

*. John 16:33 "KJV:These things I have spoken unto you, THAT IN ME ye MIGHT HAVE PEACE. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

the peace, Joy, etc is in Jesus.

Jesus in me and I in Jesus, I have Peace that

NO GB(Governing Body), GO(General Overseer), organization or church can take away!

*. John 15:4 "KJV:Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.

If you say you have Peace, joy, etc because you are in the organization or the organization is in you,

then, the organization/GB is your Jesus!

But why will you die in your sins?

*. John 8:24 "KJV:I said therefore unto you, that YE SHALL DIE in YOUR SINS: for IF YE BELIEVE not THAT I AM HE, ye shall die in your sins.

Jesus can deliver you from the grip of the oath you took with them.

Janosky:


Revelation 19:10 "KJV:And I FELL at HIS feet to WORSHIP him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: WORSHIP God: .

Revelations 19:10 the Angel's advice to John is the same advice that Janosky gives to you.
"WORSHIP GOD" not the Lamb.

lying fale jw, twister of God's word making Him a liar

the angel didn't say not to worship the Lamb
he said not to worship him:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Maximus69:


You try!

So what's the aftereffect of all these your quotations in the midst of Trinitarians when you people don't even have LOVE, JOY and PEACE in your gatherings? James 2:18-26

false jw mad max

i don't belong to a church but i have dropped in to many
to have a look, and they certainly do have love, joy, and peace among them

but you cannot help lying all over the place, you just taking after your daddy:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Peacefullove:
Who made the False Gods ? Focus on " I have said "

Idiotic person always attacking a straw man argument.

Who made the next statement? If they are not false god or are you saying the statement "I have said" means they are TRUE GOD?

Which God is Jesus Christ if He's not our God that's the question?

One God, the Father , from whom all things are . u can rest please

This is why Nobody is Jesus sons.

And your deluded mind didn't also know that the same ALL THINGS ARE THROUGH JESUS....

So Jesus Christ is the Creator and you're His creature that's why even the new birth is still through Christ.

Jesus himself said I have ONE FATHER not two . You need to be schooled

Hebrew 2:13 doesnt support your claim , The Creator need nobody to give him children.

Idiot, the point is, did Jesus have Children?

The Bible says Yes! And that makes Him a Father!

That is why He was called Everlasting Father

What your head didnt tell you was not even Abraham sons are his, children are a gift from who according to your Bible ?

Were you not the one who was saying since Jesus doesn't have son or anyone called His son means He can't be our God....

So since Abraham has son that should make him OUR GOD...

Devil was called FATHER , does that means he own or created those he called Father or figurative ?

Use sense na

This is where you've short yourself in the legs and this also proves that you're actually a manipulative just like your father the devil.

Devil was called a father because he owns those people who decided to join him likewise Christ is called a Father because ALL THOSE HE RESCUED ARE ALL BELONGS TO HIM, so ALL BELIEVERS ARE CHRIST SONS AND DAUGHTERS.

This is not figurative but the truth because whoever belong to the Devil God can't be His father again.

Does the Father call anyone his brothers ?

But the Father called people His friends.
How can a creator have friends? Ode

Besides, you haven't answered my question, does what the Father has belongs to Christ?

Nope, Hebrew 2 vs 11 says he called them brothers because they all have the same Father. Are you saying Jesus didnt have a Father before coming to earth?

Read the verse from beginning and stop being silly...

Just one.

His Fatherhood is figurative. He has no sons, the worse is he was given sons , that means HE IS NOT THE OWNER . further proof he is not our God

At least you know Christ is a Father but not just father but Everlasting Father but you just decided to call it FIGURATIVE....when every evident from the scripture pointed that we ALL BELONG to Christ.

Not only that, the scripture says WHATEVER THE FATHER HAS belongs to Jesus Christ.

Just see the way you're speaking from both side of your idiotic mouth....You're claiming He doesn't have sons in one breath in another breath you're claiming "the worst is he was given SONS"

So you know very well that Christ has sons but still allowing your deluded mind to be deceiving you.

He isn't our Father ... Neither are we his children, we are BROTHERS.

But you just said it above now that "He was given SONS"

I know you're not Christ Children that's why you're not belong to Him.

Figurative , are we not his brothers ?

You can't be brother to your Father.

For you even to say FIGURATIVE means you know what the scripture says but just decided to give it your own meaning!

But you can be a friend to your Creator...

Nobody is called Jesus sons. To make it worse you even gave a verse that said he was GIVEN chidren , showing he didnt Own them , cos they are STill his BROTHERS .

But you said he was given SONS....

So what you're given didn't belong to you anymore.

If someone gave you a car, it means the car still belong to that person and not yours bah?

Keep rejecting your saviour!

KNOWMORE56:

O maximus69, it unfortunate that you have sold yourself to the organization through oath.
Each group have LOVE, JOY and PEACE among themselves.
The GB manipulate you to see all other groups as one.
But you can help yourself with the following:
The Catholic Church is a group of its own.
So it is with Dunamis, CAC,MOFM, DLBC, etc.
If anything happens within each group, they settle it there and continue.
This is why each of them have existed till date.
I would like you to know that even occult group do have LOVE, JOY and PEACE WITHIN themselves.
Consider what the greatest Teacher says:
EVEN SINNERS DO THE SAME
*. Luke 6: 33 "KJV:And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for SINNERS ALSO DO EVEN THE SAME.
*. Mark 3:24 "KJV:And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.
So you can

It's so pathetic that your brain is malfunctioning Sir!
But let me assist you a bit!

LOVE~ People longing to see, eat, drink, talk and share happy moments while reading and meditating on the scriptures with one another just because they're having the same line of thought! 1Corinthians 1:10

JOY~ People moving with one accord sharing the message of hope with their neighbours, due to the inner JOY they have!

PEACE~ People who aren't divided by racial prejudice, social status, educational background or skin colour!

Now go and tell the founders of those so called churches you mentioned to stop going about with heavily armed guards if truthfully there is LOVE JOY and PEACE permeating their gathering!

Abegi from whom are their Pastors protecting themselves if not from their own members?

Emusan:


Idiotic person always attacking a straw man argument.

Who made the next statement? If they are not false god or are you saying the statement "I have said" means they are TRUE GOD?

Which God is Jesus Christ if He's not our God that's the question?

This is why I asked : Was God making False gods ??

And your deluded mind didn't also know that the same ALL THINGS ARE THROUGH JESUS....

So Jesus Christ is the Creator and you're His creature that's why even the new birth is still through Christ.

Thank you. It didnt say all things are from him. He isn't the Creator .


You shot yourself again, All things are also through the Father , Why??

Idiot, the point is, did Jesus have Children?

The Bible says Yes! And that makes Him a Father!

That is why He was called Everlasting Father

Highly figurative . Show me a single instance where Jesus address anyone as " My son " ?

Heb 2:13 is not a proclamation that he is our Father . Do u know every human is a Son of the Father not Jesus ? No wonder he was given, they are NOT HIS OWN. This is why they remain his brothers .


We have Just ONE Father. Malachi 2:10

Were you not the one who was saying since Jesus doesn't have son or anyone called His son means He can't be our God....

So since Abraham has son that should make him OUR GOD...

I said show me where Jesus is ever called OUR GOD ?? Till today you are still perambulating on one spot. Shame should catch you na

This is where you've short yourself in the legs and this also proves that you're actually a manipulative just like your father the devil.

Devil was called a father because he owns those people who decided to join him likewise Christ is called a Father because ALL THOSE HE RESCUED ARE ALL BELONGS TO HIM, so ALL BELIEVERS ARE CHRIST SONS AND DAUGHTERS.

This is not figurative but the truth because
whoever belong to the Devil God can't be His father again.

Emusan , At this point ... I can only pity you in advance , Being the Creator makes everyone his sons either they worship him or joined the devil , They are all his sons. . Read it again and again, you just successfully proved Jesus is not the Creator again.

So Devil is not a real Father , just figurative . So also Jesus own is figurative , he owns nobody, hence the word " given " just as the Devil has sons. THEY ARE NOT HIS OWN


Are you still doubting ?


Act 17:28,29 - The pagans at Athens are called Children of who despite they are following the path of the Devil, and on what basis ? Creation!!!

" for in Him we live and move and exist, as even some of your own poets have said, 'For WE also are His children.' "

Who are the WE? who move and exist ?

But you lied " whoever belong to the Devil God can't be His father again. " - Emusan

Keep the lies coming ., according to Act , are this pagans children of God ? Devil owns nothing , figurative just as Christ.

But the Father called people His friends.
How can a creator have friends? Ode

Besides, you haven't answered my question, does what the Father has belongs to Christ?

Define Friend and brothers and see the Gap ?

Read the verse from beginning and stop being silly...

Does Jesus and His brothers have the SAME FATHER ?

At least you know Christ is a Father but not just father but Everlasting Father but you just decided to call it FIGURATIVE....when every evident from the scripture pointed that we ALL BELONG to Christ.

Not only that, the scripture says WHATEVER THE FATHER HAS belongs to Jesus Christ.

And whatever Jesus have BELONG to the Father , do you read that too?

While Jesus needed to be given things, show me a single place Jesus gave the Father anything . think before u speak. Even the Kingdom he will reign over, he will return to his Father at some point. Like I said think before u speak.

Just see the way you're speaking from both side of your idiotic mouth....You're claiming He doesn't have sons in one breath in another breath you're claiming "the worst is he was given SONS"

So you know very well that Christ has sons but still allowing your deluded mind to be deceiving you.



But you just said it above now that "He was given SONS"

I know you're not Christ Children that's why you're not belong to Him.



For you even to say FIGURATIVE means you know what the scripture says but just decided to give it your own meaning!

But you can be a friend to your Creator...



But you said he was given SONS....

So what you're given didn't belong to you anymore.


If someone gave you a car, it means the car still belong to that person and not yours bah?

Keep rejecting your saviour!

Ownership isn't transferred, Jesus is not Father to anyone, the text keep reminding you they are his Brothers, to reset your thinking.

The bible refer to everyone created as Sons of the Father !!!!

Malachi 2:10 Do we not all HAVE ONE FATHER ?

Emusan do u have two Father's ?

freshboi88:


Y u worry urself for Janosky....my pple say fly way no dey hear word dey follow corpse enta grave. E no believe in Jesus. E no fit confess as him saviour and God. Even after Isaiah don prophesy am say an Mighty God, e still dey argue. Leave am

My brother, the thin tire me o

KNOWMORE56:


My brother, the thin tire me o

Na so he dey tire person wey no fit do the thing Jesus command!

Jesus asked people to go and PREACH to people IN THEIR HOMES, you're hiding your face behind social media and expecting people who already had their own faith grounded in their soul to agree with you that what they learnt, practiced and are benefitting from is wrong!

You're really funny o!

johnw47:


lying fale jw, twister of God's word making Him a liar

the angel didn't say not to worship the Lamb
he said not to worship him:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

WAYO Johw DULLARD

Revelation 19:10 "KJV:And I FELL at HIS feet to WORSHIP him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: WORSHIP God: .


@ Revelations 19:10 the Angel said :
WORSHIP GOD.


Your brain is a great disservice to you, dimwit.

Emusan:


One can only marvel at your ignorance and manipulation of the Holy Bible, and that's because the god of this world has blindfolded your mind.

According to your own attached...

EPIKALEO is to CALL UPON...INVOKE(for aid, worship) e.t.c

So why will Stephen CALL UPON/INVOKE Jesus when we're not to do so?

Or is it proper to INVOKE/Call upon Jesus?

WAYO Emusan LIENUS. .

The cut and join WAYO FRAUD man says @ Acts 25:11 Paul INVOKE Caesar for aid,WORSHIP etc.

Emusan where did you see WORSHIP in this Screenshots of Greek EPIKALEO?

Where did you see WORSHIP in Acts 7:59, Acts28:19 & Acts25:11?

You are a DUBIOUS man, cut and join LIAR.

Maximus69:


It's so pathetic that your brain is malfunctioning Sir!
But let me assist you a bit!

LOVE~ People longing to see, eat, drink, talk and share happy moments while reading and meditating on the scriptures with one another just because they're having the same line of thought! 1Corinthians 1:10

JOY~ People moving with one accord sharing the message of hope with their neighbours, due to the inner JOY they have!

PEACE~ People who aren't divided by racial prejudice, social status, educational background or skin colour!

Now go and tell the founders of those so called churches you mentioned to stop going about with heavily armed guards if truthfully there is LOVE JOY and PEACE permeating their gathering!

Abegi from whom are their Pastors protecting themselves if not from their own members?

Maximus calm down, let's get something clear.

This your definition of LOVE, JOY and PEACE,

is it from the GB, the GO, the Bible, dictionary or your own head?


ONLY JESUS CAN GIVE TRUE AND LASTING PEACE,JOY, LOVE, etc.

It's unfortunate that they are able to manipulate you this way.

The Adeboye group has love, peace and joy within/among themselves, just as it is with the organization.

Pastors go about with guards because of kidnappers, not because of their members.

The GB enjoy the proceeds from the organization as the GO enjoy the proceeds from the church.

The organization will block you from knowing this.

I have asked myself why do all of them have G in their title.

GB, GO, GS

they all have something in common!

But, Maximus, I assure you that Jesus can deliver you from their manipulation.

Maximus69:


Na so he dey tire person wey no fit do the thing Jesus command!

Jesus asked people to go and PREACH to people IN THEIR HOMES, you're hiding your face behind social media and expecting people who already had their own faith grounded in their soul to agree with you that what they learnt, practiced and are benefitting from is wrong!

You're really funny o!

Deut 6:13, Yahweh says ONLY YAHWEH YOU MUST WORSHIP ALONE.

Matt 4:10 Jesus says ONLY YAHWEH YOU MUST WORSHIP ALONE.

Rev 19:10 the Angel said to John: "WORSHIP GOD".

But These TRIUNE IDOL WORSHIPPERS (wey know pass Yahweh and his Son Jesus and God's Angels), the IDOL WORSHIPPERS say them go WORSHIP the Lamb.

Janosky:


WAYO Johw DULLARD

Revelation 19:10 "KJV:And I FELL at HIS feet to WORSHIP him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: WORSHIP God: .


@ Revelations 19:10 the Angel said :
WORSHIP GOD.


Your brain is a great disservice to you, dimwit.

oh duh lying pharisee false jw janosky/OneJ

again, the angel did not say to not worship the Lamb, as you lied and said he did
the angel said not to worship him

but keep lying and doing the twist oh son of your daddy the devil:

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

 
you way big fraud jw

talk about a dimmwit DULLARD , laugh, you are it

johnw47:

oh duh lying pharisee false jw janosky/OneJ

again, the angel did not say to not worship the Lamb, as you lied and said he did
the angel said not to worship him

but keep lying and doing the twist oh son of your daddy the devil:

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

 
you way big fraud jw

talk about a dimmwit DULLARD , laugh, you are it

Revelations 19:10
"The Angel said to John: WORSHIP God."

Abeg just dey your dey and stay off my mention.
WAYO Johnw Dimwitted DULLARD

Janosky:

Revelations 19:10
"The Angel said to John: WORSHIP God."

Abeg just dey your dey and stay off my mention.
WAYO Johnw Dimwitted DULLARD

laugh, dimwit DULLARD Janosky/OneJ

the angel said to worship God, and he said not to worship him

he didn't say not to worship the Lamb as you lied and said he did

poor weak false jw, you cannot talk about the lie you said
but change the subject, run away like a coward

you poor fraud false jw

you false jw's keep deceiving and twisting what is said

your daddy the devil has actually made you worse deceivers
and liars than he is

just like you pharisee false jw's make your new converts
worse than yourselves

Mat_23:15  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

Emusan:


1)
So where was Jesus said to be an ELDER in that verse that some ELDERS still bow to Him?

2)
Where in that vs5 that said the Lamb and the elders worshipped the same God? Kai....just see your lying mouth jumping.

3)
See the way you're jumping that verse 13 because you know that "all the living creatures and the 24 elders did the same thing for both Who sitted upon the throne and the Lamb"

4)
When the same Rev 22:1 even makes it clear that the THRONE BELONGS TO God and the Lamb.

Ole.... vs14 they worshipped "...Him that LIVETH forever and ever" and when you also know that Jesus LIVETH forever and ever.



Was Matt 4:10 removed from Russell and his team of pagan worshippers that made them to Worship and Prayed to Jesus?

Emusan LIENUS, Jesus is not the God of Mr Russell. FACT !


1)
The brain of Emusan LIENUS is malfunctioning, nobody else on this thread can tell where Emusan cooked up that LIE.
I NEVER said Jesus is an elder. NEVER !

2)
Revelations 5:9,10.
His God and Father sent the Lamb, John 3:16-17.

3)
Emusan LIENUS is a Triune IDOL WORSHIPPER, LYING HYPOCRITE....
LYING AGAINST Jehovah,Deut 6:13.
LYING AGAINST JESUS, Matthew 4:10.
LYING AGAINST Jehovah's Angel, Rev19:10.
Jehovah's Angels know their boundary ends@ Worship God,Jehovah not the Lamb.
The WAYO man dey challenge the words of Jehovah, Jesus Christ and angels.
Orishirishi Christian

4)
Revelation 3:21
"To the one who is victorious, I will grant the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne"
The Lamb says it's his Father's throne.
Deal with it.

5).
WAYO LIENUS, the Lamb was slain , he has NEVER lived forever, John 1:29, Revelations 5:9.

freshboi88:
Jehovah Witnesses want us to believe that Jesus is God's first creature. They quote the part of scripture that says Jesus is the first born of all God's creature.

I have just 1 verse from the bible that ridicules that false teaching.

John 1:3 God created everything through Jesus and nothing was made without him

Going by this scripture, God used Jesus to create Jesus since Jesus is God's creature and nothing was created without Jesus

I guess they have never reasoned this part of the scripture.

Jesus is the only thing God created himself which is why he is called the only begotten son,while every other thing was created through Jesus.

KNOWMORE56:



When you see church kneel before the Son and EPIKALEO,

Do you and your organization see them as paying homage to the Son,

Or they are false Christians giving worship to the one not qualified to receive worship?

The reason I ask you to tell the public whether the Lamb is Jehovah,

You said that it's Jehovah that the 4 beasts and the 24 elders are worshipping.

But the Bible says they fell down before the lamb.

What I want you to know in Revelation 19 :10 is that angels can't receive worship.

Anytime you see a bieng ( inform of lamb, angel, human, etc) received worship successfully,

Know that the true God has just changed Himself to such a being.

The people were only saying 'it is the voice of God'

*. Acts 12: 23-24 "
KJV:And the people gave a shout, saying, IT IS THE VOICE of a GOD, and not of a man.
23
KJV:And immediately the ANGEL of the LORD SMOTE him, BECAUSE HE gave NOT God THE GLORY: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.


This lead to the death of Herod.

God can never share His GLORY with another.

If He does, He had told us a lie.

you can see that the Son is receiving prayers of all the saints.

Almost all the versions agreed that the incense are the prayers of the saints.

Their prayers are directly to the Son.

The truth is 1×1×1=1

One God increased/extended/multiply Himself,

and He still remains the same.

If you are to list all the properties of one, none of the them will miss anything.

To kneel down before Images amounts to IDOL WORSHIP.
Exodus 20:4-5 is very explicit about IDOL WORSHIP.

The Lamb belongs to Jehovah God. Pronto !
John 1:29. 1 Corinthians 3:23.


Bros, please Leave that your GIBBERISH for dustbin

KNOWMORE56:


Father x Son x Holy Ghost = Almighty God

One of the reasons for this increasement/multiplication is to achieve redemption for the children of men.

When redemption is completed, the increasement/multiplication will be cancelled:

*. 1 Corinthians 15:28 "KJV:And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

The true God increased/multiply/extended Himself,

but His quality remains intact.

Jesus says if you don't believe that he is He

You will die in your sins.

*. John 8:24 "KJV:I said therefore unto you, that YE SHALL die in your sins: for IF YE BELIEVE not that I AM HE, ye shall die in your SINS.

Why do you want to die in your sins, o Janosky?

*. Ezekiel 33:11 "KJV:Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for WHY WILL ye die, O house of Israel?

John 8:24 DOESN'T apply to me in any way.
Bros, NOTHING do me.
I'm a firm believer in who Jesus Christ says he is (not what people claim he is....)
John 8:24 Jesus Christ is speaking specifically to those who Lie AGAINST his identity in heaven and earth.
Jehovah God is NOT the Lamb who was slain on earth.
Jesus Christ says Jehovah is his God and Father in heaven and earth.
John 20:17 and Revelations 3:5,12 are IMMUTABLE and SACROSANCT.

The screenshot amplify my SCRIPTURAL stand