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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 10:57pm On Jun 16, 2020

Rozz:
What do you worship?you earlier said you don't believe in the existence of God

I don't worship any one, I don't feel the need to worship anyone.

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 10:58pm On Jun 16, 2020

GRIMMJOE:
What does this salvation do.

it leads you to eternal glory.

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 11:00pm On Jun 16, 2020

GRIMMJOE:
I don't worship any one, I don't feel the need to worship anyone.

May God locate you and touch your heart

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:03pm On Jun 16, 2020

Rozz:
my pastor asked me to,its another story on its own

Cool, but do you believe that a God that want everyone to know of his existence will fail.

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:07pm On Jun 16, 2020

Rozz:
May God locate you and touch your heart

What is the benefit of the locating.

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:31pm On Jun 16, 2020

Maximus has gone to sleep, oh well.

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by hoopernikao: 12:55am On Jun 17, 2020

GRIMMJOE:
The fight here represent your struggle and willingness to defend your believe.

OK answer this, what is the purpose of the Bible, now get up and watch the new has it been achieved.

Seriously? But it is not your own believe that i will willingly defend nah. You can only defend what you believe and the life in Christ that i have is enough for me.

OK answer this, what is the purpose of the Bible, now get up and watch the new has it been achieved.

At the bold, the key purpose of the scriptures (bible) is for teaching as its been done here to you now. This will provide you with evidence, correction and right education.

2 Tim 3:16
All scripture is by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine (teaching), for reproof, for correction, for instruction (education) in righteousness:

And it is to the end that you will grow in the knowledge of God unto maturity, stability and discernment (to know left from right)

Ephes 4: 4 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about...

So, you see that the purpose is very direct and defined. And it is what you see here being done even to you. As you can see, it has been used to correct you here severally. That means the scriptures is achieving its purpose. Dont you think?

But for learning to be more beneficial you have to also be honest and open minded to learn. Bible called that "DESIRE"

1 Pet 2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow (to come to knowledge, stability and maturity) thereby:

That means you have a responsibility on you, hence before you blame God for everything you see or that anything happens, you will rather take responsibility first to check and learn what the scriptures teach about the situation or about Him and understand why things are.

Dont you think you will need to start having a closer look at such intelligent compendium of knowledge? It will help.

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by hoopernikao: 1:03am On Jun 17, 2020

@GRIMMJOE

But really, on a serious and aside note, i have a question to ask you and will truly desire a truthful answer from you.

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 4:31am On Jun 17, 2020

Rozz:
he initially denied being one but he has come out fully to deny the existence of God.

My dear it's only true believers that can be trailed if you are also a true believer, apart from true believers every other human should be feared, because nothing guides their thinking.
Most people don't know the benefits of faith.
There are four kinds of LOVE,
© Love that's based on sexual attraction.
© Love of blood relations.
© Love of friendship.
© Love that's unconditional.
Faith is built on the fourth kind of Love, that's why it's patient, kind, doesn't brag nor get puffed up, does not behave indecently, not selfish, not provoked, doesn't keep account of injury, doesn't rejoice with unrighteousness, but rejoice with truth, bears all things, hope all things, believe all things and endures all things. This kind of love will never fail! 1Corinthians 13:4-8
Only true believers possess this kind of love, so no matter what group they're before when they finds these kind of love they feel deeply moved even in their marrow to yield.
That's what is binding JWs together globally today {John 17:21-23} let anyone who feels he has something better comes up, you'll see how their concept will fail with the test of time! Luke 11:23
GRIMMJOE feel like pitching his tent outside of faith, he doesn't want to be called an atheist but he has proved from all indication that he is an atheist.
That's how to IDENTIFY people whose brains are malfunctioning! Job 5:13 undecided

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 5:07am On Jun 17, 2020

hoopernikao:

Seriously? But it is not your own believe that i will willingly defend nah. You can only defend what you believe and the life in Christ that i have is enough for me.

At the bold, the key purpose of the scriptures (bible) is for teaching as its been done here to you now. This will provide you with evidence, correction and right education.

2 Tim 3:16
All scripture is by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine (teaching), for reproof, for correction, for instruction (education) in righteousness:

And it is to the end that you will grow in the knowledge of God unto maturity, stability and discernment (to know left from right)

Ephes 4: 4 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about...

So, you see that the purpose is very direct and defined. And it is what you see here being done even to you. As you can see, it has been used to correct you here severally. That means the scriptures is achieving its purpose. Dont you think?

But for learning to be more beneficial you have to also be honest and open minded to learn. Bible called that "DESIRE"

1 Pet 2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow (to come to knowledge, stability and maturity) thereby:

That means you have a responsibility on you, hence before you blame God for everything you see or that anything happens, you will rather take responsibility first to check and learn what the scriptures teach about the situation or about Him and understand why things are.

Dont you think you will need to start having a closer look at such intelligent compendium of knowledge? It will help.

How has it helped you, how did it prevent a 5 year old being raped.

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 5:08am On Jun 17, 2020

hoopernikao:
@GRIMMJOE

But really, on a serious and aside note, i have a question to ask you and will truly desire a truthful answer from you.

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 5:10am On Jun 17, 2020

Maximus69:

My dear it's only true believers that can be trailed if you are also a true believer, apart from true believers every other human should be feared, because nothing guides their thinking.
Most people don't know the benefits of faith.
There are four kinds of LOVE,
© Love that's based on sexual attraction.
© Love of blood relations.
© Love of friendship.
© Love that's unconditional.
Faith is built on the fourth kind of Love, that's why it's patient, kind, doesn't brag nor get puffed up, does not behave indecently, not selfish, not provoked, doesn't keep account of injury, doesn't rejoice with unrighteousness, but rejoice with truth, bears all things, hope all things, believe all things and endures all things. This kind of love will never fail! 1Corinthians 13:4-8
Only true believers possess this kind of love, so no matter what group they're before when they finds these kind of love they feel deeply moved even in their marrow to yield.
That's what is binding JWs together globally today {John 17:21-23} let anyone who feels he has something better comes up, you'll see how their concept will fail with the test of time! Luke 11:23
GRIMMJOE feel like pitching his tent outside of faith, he doesn't want to be called an atheist but he has proved from all indication that he is an atheist.
That's how to IDENTIFY people whose brains are malfunctioning! Job 5:13

Right from the horses mouth, I'm not an Atheist.

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 5:32am On Jun 17, 2020

GRIMMJOE:
Right from the horses mouth, I'm not an Atheist.

Have you ever seen an insane admit he is one? undecided

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 6:03am On Jun 17, 2020

Maximus69:

My dear it's only true believers that can be trailed if you are also a true believer, apart from true believers every other human should be feared, because nothing guides their thinking.
Most people don't know the benefits of faith.
There are four kinds of LOVE,
© Love that's based on sexual attraction.
© Love of blood relations.
© Love of friendship.
© Love that's unconditional.
Faith is built on the fourth kind of Love, that's why it's patient, kind, doesn't brag nor get puffed up, does not behave indecently, not selfish, not provoked, doesn't keep account of injury, doesn't rejoice with unrighteousness, but rejoice with truth, bears all things, hope all things, believe all things and endures all things. This kind of love will never fail! 1Corinthians 13:4-8
Only true believers possess this kind of love, so no matter what group they're before when they finds these kind of love they feel deeply moved even in their marrow to yield.
That's what is binding JWs together globally today {John 17:21-23} let anyone who feels he has something better comes up, you'll see how their concept will fail with the test of time! Luke 11:23
GRIMMJOE feel like pitching his tent outside of faith, he doesn't want to be called an atheist but he has proved from all indication that he is an atheist.
That's how to IDENTIFY people whose brains are malfunctioning! Job 5:13

lmao you are mouthed and blessed sir

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 6:26am On Jun 17, 2020

Rozz:
lmao you are mouthed and blessed sir

It's the blessing our God and Father had in stock for all those who follow the path of Abraham! Genesis 12:3

So Rozz this type of blessing was not designed for some special people, if you follow Abraham's path the same kind of blessings will be yours in Jesus name! Galatians 3:7

God bless you!

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 6:34am On Jun 17, 2020

GRIMMJOE:
Right from the horses mouth, I'm not an Atheist.

Maximus69:

Have you ever seen an insane admit he is one?

lying pharisee max

because you false jw's are habitual liars
you think others are too, like you:

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 6:38am On Jun 17, 2020

johnw47:

lying pharisee max

because you false jw's are habitual liars
you think others are too, like you:

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

GRIMMJOE
God doesn't exist, science just doesn't have all the answers yet

God's word called people who say "there is NO God" insane Psalms 10:4, 14:1
Not Maximus69! undecided

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 6:51am On Jun 17, 2020

Maximus69:

God's word called people who say "there is NO God" insane Psalms 10:4, 14:1
Not Maximus69!

confused lying pharisee mad max
so what has that to do with me saying you false jw habitual liars think other are liars too, because you are?
truly not everyone lie like you do as your natural talk

you caught confused nitwit DULLARD from janosky

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 7:00am On Jun 17, 2020

Maximus69:

It's the blessing our God and Father had in stock for all those who follow the path of Abraham! Genesis 12:3

So Rozz this type of blessing was not designed for some special people, if you follow Abraham's path the same kind of blessings will be yours in Jesus name! Galatians 3:7

God bless you!

amen,thanks alot

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 7:07am On Jun 17, 2020

johnw47:

confused lying pharisee mad max
so what has that to do with me saying you false jw habitual liars think other are liars too, because you are?
truly not everyone lie like you do as your natural talk

you caught confused nitwit DULLARD from janosky

The bolded is the reason why i'm pleading with you Sir!
Of course you can abuse, insult, curse even spit on Maximus69. Luke 12:10

But Please! Please!! Please!!!
Honour, Respect as in Fear the utterance of Jesus of Nazareth!
Who ever calls him Lord {Matthew 7:21} but despises his word will not be forgiven! Luke 6:45-46

If you're here like GRIMMJOE and you don't care about whatever orders Jesus gives, it's understandable. Psalms 10:4

But for you to call yourself a Christian yet ignoring the order from Jesus whom you call "LORD" is worse than that of GRIMMJOE who doesn't believe in God and saying it publicly!

However there is something Jesus told me when you (johnw47) call Max "mad"!

He ordered me to bless you in return! Luke 6:28

So johnw47, may God bless you!

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 7:16am On Jun 17, 2020

Rozz:
amen,thanks alot

You're welcome my dear, just remember what i always tell you:-

Paradise is not far but there are many as in so many rivers to cross!

God bless you!

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 7:22am On Jun 17, 2020

Maximus69:

The bolded is the reason why i'm pleading with you Sir!
Of course you can abuse, insult, curse even spit on Maximus69. Luke 12:10

But Please! Please!! Please!!!
Honour, Respect as in Fear the utterance of Jesus of Nazareth!
Who ever calls him Lord {Matthew 7:21} but despises his word will not be forgiven! Luke 6:45-46

If you're here like GRIMMJOE and you don't care about whatever orders Jesus gives, it's understandable. Psalms 10:4

But for you to call yourself a Christian yet ignoring the order from Jesus whom you call "LORD" is worse than that of GRIMMJOE who doesn't believe in God and saying it publicly!

However there is something Jesus told me when you (johnw47) call Max "mad"!

He ordered me to bless you in return! Luke 6:28

So johnw47, may God bless you!

false jw mad max, ^^^ your above is why i rightly call you false accuser -liar

and hypocrite to boot

laughing, what a obvious fraud you are mad max:

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 7:28am On Jun 17, 2020

Maximus69:

However there is something Jesus told me when you (johnw47) call Max "mad"!

He ordered me to bless you in return! Luke 6:28

So johnw47, may God bless you!

truly mad max, it wasn't Jesus who spoke to you just now
Jesus doesn't object to the truth, laugh

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 7:35am On Jun 17, 2020

Maximus69:

The bolded is the reason why i'm pleading with you Sir!
Of course you can abuse, insult, curse even spit on Maximus69. Luke 12:10

But Please! Please!! Please!!!
Honour, Respect as in Fear the utterance of Jesus of Nazareth!
Who ever calls him Lord {Matthew 7:21} but despises his word will not be forgiven! Luke 6:45-46

If you're here like GRIMMJOE and you don't care about whatever orders Jesus gives, it's understandable. Psalms 10:4

But for you to call yourself a Christian yet ignoring the order from Jesus whom you call "LORD" is worse than that of GRIMMJOE who doesn't believe in God and saying it publicly!

However there is something Jesus told me when you (johnw47) call Max "mad"!

He ordered me to bless you in return! Luke 6:28

So johnw47, may God bless you!

false jw mad max

you really should post those bible verses
by only giving book , chapter and verse numbers
it appears you are ashamed to post God's word

post them and let us discuss them and show up your lies yet again

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 7:44am On Jun 17, 2020

and truly Christ wouldn't object to me calling a antichristian, mad

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 8:33am On Jun 17, 2020

GRIMMJOE:
What is the benefit of the locating.

it will benefit your life and your eternal life

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 8:39am On Jun 17, 2020

Rozz:
May God locate you and touch your heart

God surely search people's heart { 2Chronicles 16:9} but God doesn't touch hearts of the wicked otherwise everyone's heart could have been touched!

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 8:49am On Jun 17, 2020

Rozz:
it will benefit your life and your eternal life

All he needs is to apply the same rules he's giving others to himself. He wants people to listen to him, and when you listen there is nothing he could offer as practical solution to the problems he is discussing.
OK someone presents a solution but GRIMMJOE feel like questioning the source of such practical application.
He doesn't want to hear of a Supreme Being whose intellect surpasses that of humans, yet he is crying day and night due to the problems on ground.
Please tell me what exactly does he want?

So God's word is absolutely right when it says "The wicked man is lazy to make any thorough research, all what he just want is his idea to be forced on everyone 'there is no God'" Psalms 10:4

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 8:55am On Jun 17, 2020

Maximus69:

All he needs is to apply the same rules he's giving others to himself. He wants people to listen to him, and when you listen there is nothing he could offer as practical solution to the problems he is discussing.
OK someone presents a solution but GRIMMJOE feel like questioning the source of such practical application.
He doesn't want to hear of a Supreme Being whose intellect surpasses that of humans, yet he is crying day and night due to the problems on ground.
Please tell me what exactly does he want?

So God's word is absolutely right when it says "The wicked man is lazy to make any thorough research, all what he just want is his idea to be forced on everyone 'there is no God'" Psalms 10:4

Like he's trapped and needed help,he doesn't seems to understand himself and what he believes.He shall be saved sooner or later

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 9:33am On Jun 17, 2020

Maximus69:

The bolded is the reason why i'm pleading with you Sir!
Of course you can abuse, insult, curse even spit on Maximus69. Luke 12:10

But Please! Please!! Please!!!
Honour, Respect as in Fear the utterance of Jesus of Nazareth!
Who ever calls him Lord {Matthew 7:21} but despises his word will not be forgiven! Luke 6:45-46

If you're here like GRIMMJOE and you don't care about whatever orders Jesus gives, it's understandable. Psalms 10:4

But for you to call yourself a Christian yet ignoring the order from Jesus whom you call "LORD" is worse than that of GRIMMJOE who doesn't believe in God and saying it publicly!

However there is something Jesus told me when you (johnw47) call Max "mad"!

He ordered me to bless you in return! Luke 6:28

So johnw47, may God bless you!

johnw47:

false jw mad max

you really should post those bible verses .
by only giving book , chapter and verse numbers
it appears you are ashamed to post God's word

post them and let us discuss them and show up your lies yet again

Maximus69:

I'll be ready to discuss with you anytime anyday, but first go and learn OBEDIENCE to God's word Sir!
1Samuel 15:22

God bless you!

lying false accuser false jw mad max

such a lying and cowardly reply, of course
you even went to another thread and replied to different post, laugh

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by hoopernikao: 9:49am On Jun 17, 2020

GRIMMJOE:
How has it helped you, how did it prevent a 5 year old being raped.

It has given me a clear view of things, how things are and will be. It can also provide such education for you.

The scriptures arent based on emotional issues. When you put your emotions in place you wont see what you are being taught. Facts arent changed by emotions. Facts of the scriptures are sacred.

I never told you that the scriptures is for stopping challenges, did i? You still arent reading me well. You will really need to for you to learn something in this converse. Teaching provides wisdom for you and guidance which affects your daily living.

On the issue of 5 years being raped, i am not in a position to decide or judge situations especially what i am not in it. There are a lot that happens when people face challenges, there are a lot unknown to us when people die, sadly, they are usually not available to give us the reality of the issue. Hence, when you see issues as the one you raised, it is wise to be wise in making conclusion. That wisdom to know and be able to differentiate is available for you now if you embrace it.

True and sincere judgement should be passed based on knowledge. For example now, if i ask you some questions about the death of the girl, you surely cant answer but you are in a rush to pass judgement on it and condemned others. Dont you think that is not good enough?

See, i know you are bothered with a lot of things and you have so many unexplained things on your mind especially about God, this is the reason i decided to give you a small leeway to discuss without you pointing to scriptures. It is not my custom. Especially when you started your defence by attacking the scriptures. But it wont also be out of place to apologize for such. You err in that. So accept it and correct it that you dont attack or speak for what you dont know.

And whatever is the issue you have at heart, i can confidently assure you that it can be straightened out if you calm down, be more open to know.

Side note: My count of question is 18 now, and i havent gotten even 1 answer from you. grin

. If it is promotion exams now, you will score 18/18. cheesy

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by hoopernikao: 10:03am On Jun 17, 2020

GRIMMJOE:

@GRIMMJOE

But really, on a serious and aside note, i have a question to ask you and will truly desire a truthful answer from you.

You did not answer this but i will ask you.

I observed patiently that your knowledge and actions stemmed from a past issue or challenge that may likely have drawn you really far and start questioning God or His word. You may likely have been around His word before such issue happened. Your primary issues is not with the bible or Christians but with God. I know somewhere in your heart are many contemplation. Can you share them?

Sometimes what we have learnt or known or believed about a person may not truly be who the person is. Sometimes we read people's actions differently from who they truly are. I feel you may need to see things differently. So, i ask again, what exactly is the issue you have with God, i mean personally, what happened around you that cause such.

Even if you can state it here i am open to mails for us to discuss.

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