kokaneprodigy:

Two of those are midfielders
My point exactly

Attacking midfielders.I.e they can create or arrive in the box.

Roland17:
We need to totally revamp our midfield and that is where I agree with @Kokaneprodigy. You can get the best wingers but if you lack the right midfielders to help coordinate/ transition offense and push the ball, irrespective of how skilled your wingers are, they would be ineffective and wingers have the tendency to become selfish if they are not involved. Also, if your style of attack is primarily through the wings it becomes predictable and easy for opponents to plan against your team. More so , without a good midfield, your counter attacks become blunt, thus making your wingers irrelevant. Do you know how many counter attack opportunities we blew yesterday?

Yesterday’s loss was on Arteta, he should have raised his hand during the press conference. Take a look at the formation and how it was broken down! You are playing a back 4 with Kola yet you brought Tierney whom you should have started in the first place. (Abeg I don’t want to hear injury scare excuse)

A midfield base of Ceballos and Guen, threw Saka into the AM which was part of our undoing because the kid has made it clear during the break that while he is versatile he was to build his confidence from the LW position, not LB, LWB or AM position. Well, whenever we had possession, the kid was drifting to his preferred position, thus saturating that wing, causing more offsides for Auba and himself. If the idea was to be fluid then it was a horrible decision because we lack any identity, I mean outside of losing and drawing games.

Furthermore, you would notice whenever we had possession we were spending incredible amounts of time in our own half, back passing. The midfield pairing lacked the dynamism/ grit to coordinate the attack. Auba, Laca, Saka and Pepe were all dropping deep to collect the ball. It was a horrible tactic, it was flat.
Pepe is dangerous when he is inside the box, not outside of it, not when he has to make long runs because he would be doubled and of course it is easy for him to become distracted by some fruitless dribbling.

You are right on the midfield aspect
Also, auba and pepe were isolated on the wings, especially pepe
because our fullbacks are not making many overlapping runs
That's why Pepe was doing his meaningless dribbles
I believe if the team is balanced from defense to midfield, our attack is good enough to compete

Fkhalifa:


Agree 100%, with the bolded, Imagine a prime Sanchez on the wings, where Aubameyang has been ineffective, and a prime Carzola in the AM where Ozil and Ceballos have been silent and dancing respectively, I'm sure this Arsenal will still look Okay and competitive.

We may not be doing fine against top teams, but the Brighton and Southampton won't a difficult task.

Its true we may have a weak defensive set up, but its not like we concede every minute, but our attack can be so dull like we're never going to score.

Take Saka and the inconsistent Pepe away and you see a boring pass me I pass you football.

Utd didn't win city home and away by defending alone, you see James,Rashford and Martial running and causing the city back line problems with series of shots, but our boys wil try to work the ball in the net in a slow slow manner.
.
Trashy rubbish.

They wanna do the vintage Arsenal

This is the kind of pain this useless miserable club gives us, the only crime is supporting them
Awon werey



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5ayQAQYFIY

Roland17:
We need to totally revamp our midfield and that is where I agree with @Kokaneprodigy. You can get the best wingers but if you lack the right midfielders to help coordinate/ transition offense and push the ball, irrespective of how skilled your wingers are, they would be ineffective and wingers have the tendency to become selfish if they are not involved. Also, if your style of attack is primarily through the wings it becomes predictable and easy for opponents to plan against your team. More so , without a good midfield, your counter attacks become blunt, thus making your wingers irrelevant. Do you know how many counter attack opportunities we blew yesterday?

Yesterday’s loss was on Arteta, he should have raised his hand during the press conference. Take a look at the formation and how it was broken down! You are playing a back 4 with Kola yet you brought Tierney whom you should have started in the first place. (Abeg I don’t want to hear injury scare excuse)

A midfield base of Ceballos and Guen, threw Saka into the AM which was part of our undoing because the kid has made it clear during the break that while he is versatile he was to build his confidence from the LW position, not LB, LWB or AM position. Well, whenever we had possession, the kid was drifting to his preferred position, thus saturating that wing, causing more offsides for Auba and himself. If the idea was to be fluid then it was a horrible decision because we lack any identity, I mean outside of losing and drawing games.

Furthermore, you would notice whenever we had possession we were spending incredible amounts of time in our own half, back passing. The midfield pairing lacked the dynamism/ grit to coordinate the attack. Auba, Laca, Saka and Pepe were all dropping deep to collect the ball. It was a horrible tactic, it was flat.
Pepe is dangerous when he is inside the box, not outside of it, not when he has to make long runs because he would be doubled and of course it is easy for him to become distracted by some fruitless dribbling.

I quite agree with you and kokane on clearing the entire midfield as part of major surgeries the whole team needs, However, in a 442 formation, your front4 have to be good with the ball,mobile,energetic and industrious to break opposition down. The midfield 2 going forward to support will expose the back much.

Remember during the Henri,bergkamp,ljumberg and Pires era, they were all mobile and good with the ball.

Henri would either drop deep or move to the wings, drive in to provide for other forwards or score on his own.

In this current set up, when the ball gets to laca, he gaurds and flick it to the opponent, Auba runs to the line to cross or attempts dribble and lose it to the opponent, Pepe though tries but hugs the line too much and hardly drives direct, while Saka is the only who looks good on the ball.

None is good at beating players one on one, they first resort to passing it around and back to the midfield or defenders, and Ceballos, Ozil,Willock, Guendozi and Xhaka will never drive into the box, they are either too scared or bad at it.

Liverpool create much from the wings, Mane ,firminho and Sallah can create,score and do everthing with the ball, while Robertson and Arnold are also chief creators. Their midfield 3 only press,posses and lay it to the front 3.

In a 433 system, there has to be a creative players like Debruyne,Fernandez,Madison, Grealish,Carzola, Fabregas,Jao Felix and Erickson to support the front 3.

iamoyindamola:
This is the kind of pain this useless miserable club gives us, the only crime is supporting them
Awon werey



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5ayQAQYFIY

You both can join us at Liverpool

*I can bet anything that if we don't invest in quality hardworking players in the summer,we will cry more next season and may be fighting relegation no matter who our coach is*


You guys should prepare the words to use in abusing the coaches because we may have more than 2 coaches again next season.

For me,after following this club for over 20 years and have blamed Wenger wrongly for being stingy in the transfer market In his late years with us and Emery for confusing the players with different systems with no clear direction,I have made up my mind not to criticize any coach anymore because *we can not sow yam and reap maize or vice versa.*

We have failed for a decade to invest in the team properly and have not shown anyone that we have ambition for big trophies as a club but we think we can achieve what our rivals achieve with their *big investments in their squads and serious ambitions that they show when they notice any area that needs reinforcement in their teams.*

I can't fool myself anymore and those who think any coach will help these unserious bunch of lazy players to achieve anything can continue to dream. Good luck to them.

Copied#.

The above has been my stance,hence my flirting with Liverpool.
I keep asking which top manager will want this Arsenal job?
How can you want to achieve by making your transfer window on the following type of players,:
Old dead woods(Cech,Luiz,lichterner,Sokratis).
Young players for future (Guendozi,Martinelli)
Academy boys (Willock,Nelson,Saka nd Nketih)
Loans(Ceballos,Dennis Suarez,Soarez,Mari)

arsenal and their love for pensioners(luiz lichsteiner cech ) is like 5 and 6.i Woke up to transfer news of arsenal interested in 35 yrs old pensioner thiago silva , arsenal are also going to reward luiz dreadful performance against man c with a new 18 month deal, luiz and thiago silva will marshall arsenal defence toward relegation(championship). I also saw in the news arsenal are planning to bring back carzola another pensioner . while chelsea are gunning for europe young attacking talent (ziyech,werner,harvetz) arsenal are gunning for europe most paid pensioners
it is well

airmark:




Roland17 should go the way of a40.

Can't you keep my name out of your gangrenous mouth and leprous fingers for one second

kokaneprodigy:
ajakaja40 has taken his fart brain to other threads.

STFU you Trump fellating crackhead

Fkhalifa:
*I can bet anything that if we don't invest in quality hardworking players in the summer,we will cry more next season and may be fighting relegation no matter who our coach is*


You guys should prepare the words to use in abusing the coaches because we may have more than 2 coaches again next season.

For me,after following this club for over 20 years and have blamed Wenger wrongly for being stingy in the transfer market In his late years with us and Emery for confusing the players with different systems with no clear direction,I have made up my mind not to criticize any coach anymore because *we can not sow yam and reap maize or vice versa.*

We have failed for a decade to invest in the team properly and have not shown anyone that we have ambition for big trophies as a club but we think we can achieve what our rivals achieve with their *big investments in their squads and serious ambitions that they show when they notice any area that needs reinforcement in their teams.*

I can't fool myself anymore and those who think any coach will help these unserious bunch of lazy players to achieve anything can continue to dream. Good luck to them.

Copied#.

The above has been my stance,hence my flirting with Liverpool.
I keep asking which top manager will want this Arsenal job?
How can you want to achieve by making your transfer window on the following type of players,:
Old dead woods(Cech,Luiz,lichterner,Sokratis).
Young players for future (Guendozi,Martinelli)
Academy boys (Willock,Nelson,Saka nd Nketih)
Loans(Ceballos,Dennis Suarez,Soarez,Mari)

We lost to Brighton, have you seen their line up? Even if we exchange players for the day, brighton would still win. our club as a wholelacks the culture of a serious club which has led to a very poor mentality in and around the club. Don't blame the players. the system is wack. #kroenkeOut is the big fool here.

Please whoever is in charge of this thread should change our banner to something more hopeful.

Something like "Arsenal Fans Thread, Keep Hope Alive"
because that's how we are feeling right now. Hopeless.

Spy360:
Please whoever is in charge of this thread should change our banner to something more hopeful.

Something like "Arsenal Fans Thread, Keep Hope Alive"
because that's how we are feeling right now. Hopeless.

Take heart, the worse is yet to come

This is just the begining, long may ur woes continue

thorrvik55:


Take heart, the worse is yet to come

This is just the begining, long may ur woes continue

Who is this excretory system?

Spy360:

Who is this excretory system?

Take note: "This is just the beginning"

Long may ur woes continue.. Wail on man!! Sorry for interrupting ur wailing session

Spy360:

We lost to Brighton, have you seen their line up? Even if we exchange players for the day, brighton would still win. our club as a wholelacks the culture of a serious club which has led to a very poor mentality in and around the club. Don't blame the players. the system is wack. #kroenkeOut is the big fool here.

Serious and ambitious players play for their name,fans or to attract bigger FC, if not for their Employers.

if as a player you're okay with the unserious culture of the club, then those players are also major problem..

Even Sheffield players look passionate.
Little wonder why the Sanchez, Rvp,Fab et al a left.

A40:
Can't you keep my name out of your gangrenous mouth and leprous fingers for one second

Ajakaja40, who was a king at Arsenal, went to Bayern to become a slave under Dayo.

Fkhalifa:

Serious and ambitious players play for their name,fans or to attract bigger FC, if not for their Employers.

if as a player you're okay with the unserious culture of the club, then those players are also major problem..

Even Sheffield players look passionate.
Little wonder why the Sanchez, Rvp,Fab et al a left.

Most of those players joined believing the hype everyone of us fell for. They have their contract intact and get paid. The club's culture becomes secondary until some like Auba who because of external interests would want out others like Ozil would want to hold the club to ransom and get better deals.

Don't blame the players. You can not be better than the system you find yourself. If no one is holding you accountable for you performance and the club's, then you chop your money and go.

#KroenkeOut abeg

Spy360:

Most of those players joined believing the hype everyone of us fell for. They have their contract intact and get paid. The club's culture becomes secondary until some like Auba who because of external interests would want out others like Ozil would want to hold the club to ransom and get better deals.

Don't blame the players. You can not be better than the system you find yourself. If no one is holding you accountable for you performance and the club's, then you chop your money and go.

#KroenkeOut abeg

That's true, you can commit errors,disappear or stroll around on pitch, and yet be rewarded with new contract and juicy pays.

Dangote in abeg#

Tears by moonlight.

Our club legend has renewed his contract with us

Better days ahead

Nezzjnr:
As a Genuine Gunner

I suggest we extend The Contract of David Luiz

I feel he needs that contract extension to perform better

My fellow Gunners... What sayest thou

All these fake fans like prodigy and Sodick

Arteta can see that I've a great vision for your club

He has finally succumbed to my plea about the contract extension of Luiz

Mikel Arteta says Arsenal WILL extend David Luiz, Pablo Mari, Dani Ceballos and Cedric Soares deals https://m.allfootballapp.com/news?id=2376711&type=share&language=en

Sod9, Arterta is probably telling us he will do wonders with this players come next season. He is also pleased to have Xhaka.

Happy times.

Fkhalifa:
Mikel Arteta says Arsenal WILL extend David Luiz, Pablo Mari, Dani Ceballos and Cedric Soares deals https://m.allfootballapp.com/news?id=2376711&type=share&language=en

Sod9, Arterta is probably telling us he will do wonders with this players come next season. He is also pleased to have Xhaka.

Happy times.

lolz. . Happy times indeed.

Mari and Soares I understand but please what kind of role model is luiz teaching, why is Xhaka not even considered for sale. We need to free up space on our wage mehn. We just gathered people that will not do anything for us. Xhaka cannot pass, you cannot do defensive too.

If partey is real, we have torreria too. Is enough, we should be look for creative midfielders now not all this people

johnjunior39:
Mari and Soares I understand but please what kind of role model is luiz teaching, why is Xhaka not even considered for sale. We need to free up space on our wage mehn. We just gathered people that will not do anything for us. Xhaka cannot pass, you cannot do defensive too.

If partey is real, we have torreria too. Is enough, we should be look for creative midfielders now not all this people

na so, fans always having the best ideas


Trust me the people behind these decisions are paid millions

So when you want to suggest itk ideas know that people have already tot of that


If we want to even go by fans suggestion, based on what's here and kind of things I have heard, a club like arsenal wouldn't exist, you would have run the club into the ground

Arsenal will be a museum of footballing history


Like ure now, just that ur players will be replaced by concrete replica

iamJ:
na so, fans always having the best ideas


Trust me the people behind these decisions are paid millions

So when you want to suggest itk ideas know that people have already tot of that


If we want to even go by fans suggestion, based on what's here and kind of things I have heard, a club like arsenal wouldn't exist, you would have run the club into the ground

Arsenal will be a museum of footballing history


Like ure now, just that ur players will be replaced by concrete replica

some fans think that real life football is like FIFA 20

johnjunior39:
Mari and Soares I understand but please what kind of role model is luiz teaching, why is Xhaka not even considered for sale. We need to free up space on our wage mehn. We just gathered people that will not do anything for us. Xhaka cannot pass, you cannot do defensive too.

If partey is real, we have torreria too. Is enough, we should be look for creative midfielders now not all this people

arteta had to choose between mustafi, sokratis and David Luiz


beside David Luiz role next season will be as a back up CB because according to report we are still bringing in another CB next season.

by next season will have Saliba, Mari, holding, Luiz, new CB

I think thats better, when you realize that Luiz role in the team will be limited compared to this season and also we will have partey coming in which means that defense will be protected.



so I think you should call down until the next transfer window ends before you join other trolls in passing out judgement

johnjunior39:
Mari and Soares I understand but please what kind of role model is luiz teaching, why is Xhaka not even considered for sale. We need to free up space on our wage mehn. We just gathered people that will not do anything for us. Xhaka cannot pass, you cannot do defensive too.

If partey is real, we have torreria too. Is enough, we should be look for creative midfielders now not all this people

Bro. .all the contracts kinda make sense except that of Luiz maybe. The upcoming transfer window look unpredictable too.

you have Sokratis, Mari, Holding, mustafi and then Saiba is coming too. please tell me what luiz is needed for at 33.
yes the must have considered so many things and yes we have people doing this things does that stop a public opinion too?

in all the games we have been playing, you and I know that we have midfielders who are suppose to be strong defensively (which the are not self) , get we have to bring partey. our midfield is lacking creativity for crying out loud mehn!

arsenal game is boring now.

kodded:
arteta had to choose between mustafi, sokratis and David Luiz


if you were the manager who would you have picked from the three ?

beside David Luiz role next season will be as a back up CB because according to report we are still bringing in another CB next season.


so guy wait untill the next transfer window ends before you join other trolls in passing out judgement

well it will only make sense if anybody will buy mustafi or Sokratis. I don't see us buying another defender , my brother