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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:55pm On Jun 24, 2020
sophtcopy:
How many of you agree with me that Iwobi is overhyped? ...especially on this thread


baba how far nah
lol
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JayromWrites: 8:57pm On Jun 24, 2020
zuchyblink:
there is a certain Adam uche Idah on Norwich line up. Nairaland scouts over to you


Trust this thread

Enough have been said about him

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 9:04pm On Jun 24, 2020
mostob:
lolz bro. . I was about to ask him the same thing. I admit this thread can never be interesting if we all are on the same page that is why there must be room for antagonism. you see that komekn, *shakes head* it is no more antagonism but HATE.i just tire for him.

Some of us would just be out here calling out his BS.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 9:14pm On Jun 24, 2020
Joe Aribo
Kev Maussi Martins (Obafemi Martin's son)

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 9:17pm On Jun 24, 2020
zuchyblink:
there is a certain Adam uche Idah on Norwich line up. Nairaland scouts over to you

Already set his eyes on Ireland
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by seankafor(m): 9:28pm On Jun 24, 2020
Subzero047:
Joe Aribo
Kev Maussi Martins (Obafemi Martin's son)
I learnt obagoal married baletolli sis..na true?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JayromWrites: 9:29pm On Jun 24, 2020
Subzero047:
Joe Aribo
Kev Maussi Martins (Obafemi Martin's son)

One for the future?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Clementoke(m): 9:30pm On Jun 24, 2020
seankafor:
I learnt obagoal married baletolli sis..na true?

Yeah true.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by seankafor(m): 9:33pm On Jun 24, 2020
Clementoke:


Yeah true.
that guy na real baller off and on the pitch..

Leaner he also has series of investments whilst living large to his best life
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Melvinity: 9:34pm On Jun 24, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


You should get used to it. This is a public forum and this thread has lots of followers. Some might come back a day or two and scan to catch up with what went on in their absence.

So drawbacks in topics happen from time to time.
Boss, u are so correct. I love reading, commenting? Nah! #behind_d_scenemood_activated.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 9:39pm On Jun 24, 2020
Subzero047:
Joe Aribo
Kev Maussi Martins (Obafemi Martin's son)

Looks like his father through and through.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:43pm On Jun 24, 2020
TheLoneCitizen:








First of all, when I said 'defender', I meant Central defender. In the Big 5 leagues, Omeruo is by far our best performing defender. Balogun and Ajayi don't even play in top-tier leagues.

Of all our central defenders in Europe including Ajayi, Omeruo ranks first in tackles, interceptions, clearances, wins more offsides.
In fact he is the 2nd best tackler in Italy.

The only defender who has better stats is Jordan Torunarigha and he doesn't play for us yet.

Respect! Respect!! Respect!!!

Do you know that Sol Bamba playing for Cardiff last season in the EPL, had better statistics than Van Dyke. In your opinion do you think that Bamba is better than Van Dyke❓

Statistics have to be used properly and as such are indicative but not entirely conclusive.

Cardiff were relegated back to the Championship with thier poor quality quintessential dogs of war, kick and rush type football. Where they belong.

Poor quality teams often spend the larger part of the game defending which means lots of blocks, long balls, interceptions, tackles, clearances. As a consequence they have lots of these types of high statistics. It is not a reflection of quality but desperation and limited ability .

Leganese is a poor team, that has only been able to win 5 games out of 31 games in La Liga. It is not benchmark for quality.

La Liga wins accolades and is classed as the best in Europe on account of the units of measurement used. Those accolades are almost entirely anchored on the exploits of Real and Madrid. You could add a lower third in this group Athletico Madrid.

So you have a huge gap between the top two teams Real and Barca who have probably one everything for the past 15 years. If you look at EPL over the same period you will have about 6 different teams over the same period winning the league.

But more worrying is the gap in quality of the bottom half of La liga. When you look at Segunda División it is nowhere near on the level of the Championship. So using the second tier Championship as a measure of players quality fails.

Look at the value of players in Bournemouth a relegation club and Leganese. In terms of players value Leganese cannot compete. Or we could look at Fulham in the Championship and the value of thier players once again Leganese cannot compete on value or quality.

Essentially Leganese would struggle to compete in the Championship. They would not be big spenders and be mid table at best IMO.

The reality is players follow the money not just the league. Nobody is going to leave the Championship for lower pay to just play in La Liga.

This is why l do not agree with your proposition.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:45pm On Jun 24, 2020
seankafor:
I learnt obagoal married baletolli sis..na true?

Official marriage l don't know but baby mother YES.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 9:57pm On Jun 24, 2020
seankafor:
I learnt obagoal married baletolli sis..na true?

Yea, not married

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 10:06pm On Jun 24, 2020
Subzero047:
Joe Aribo
Kev Maussi Martins (Obafemi Martin's son)

Wow
Hope say Martin's no do away match cos the resemblance is uncanny
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 10:16pm On Jun 24, 2020
Edopesin:


Wow
Hope say Martin's no do away match cos the resemblance is uncanny

He's too old to be Oba's son cool
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:31pm On Jun 24, 2020
seankafor:
that guy na real baller off and on the pitch..

Leaner he also has series of investments whilst living large to his best life
Martins was a proper baller for real...

One of the best player Nigeria ever produced...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by COOL10(m): 10:43pm On Jun 24, 2020
Super Atalanta
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JayromWrites: 10:54pm On Jun 24, 2020
komekn:


Do you know that Sol Bamba playing for Cardiff last season in the EPL, had better statistics than Van Dyke. In your opinion do you think that Bamba is better than Van Dyke❓

Statistics have to be used properly and as such are indicative but not entirely conclusive.

Cardiff were relegated back to the Championship with thier poor quality quintessential dogs of war, kick and rush type football. Where they belong.

Poor quality teams often spend the larger part of the game defending which means lots of blocks, long balls, interceptions, tackles, clearances. As a consequence they have lots of these types of high statistics. It is not a reflection of quality but desperation and limited ability .

Leganese is a poor team, that has only been able to win 5 games out of 31 games in La Liga. It is not benchmark for quality.

La Liga wins accolades and is classed as the best in Europe on account of the units of measurement used. Those accolades are almost entirely anchored on the exploits of Real and Madrid. You could add a lower third in this group Athletico Madrid.

So you have a huge gap between the top two teams Real and Barca who have probably one everything for the past 15 years. If you look at EPL over the same period you will have about 6 different teams over the same period winning the league.

But more worrying is the gap in quality of the bottom half of La liga. When you look at Segunda División it is nowhere near on the level of the Championship. So using the second tier Championship as a measure of players quality fails.

Look at the value of players in Bournemouth a relegation club and Leganese. In terms of players value Leganese cannot compete. Or we could look at Fulham in the Championship and the value of thier players once again Leganese cannot compete on value or quality.

Essentially Leganese would struggle to compete in the Championship. They would not be big spenders and be mid table at best IMO.

The reality is players follow the money not just the league. Nobody is going to leave the Championship for lower pay to just play in La Liga.

This is why l do not agree with your proposition.



Sir!

English football is not a standard of measurement for European football

These spanish teams you talking down on have dealt with premier league teams of late

Sevilla knocked out Manchester united under Mourinho

Chelsea had to hold on tight to luck to see out a draw against Valencia

"low club" atletico Madrid knocked out the runaway champions in the premier league


I won't place a bet on west ham winning against Real betis.. And I'm also certain a game between Villareal and Everton can swing either ways


Spanish football is not as bad as you trying to paint it.. I watched a group of fishermen from Ibiza playing well against Barcelona


English football is not the beginning and end of European football

And the championship is not as great as you want us to believe

Ayew is king there

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JayromWrites: 10:56pm On Jun 24, 2020
Utonwanne:


He's too old to be Oba's son cool


He's 15

The son of Martins Obagoal and nephew to Balotelli
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 10:59pm On Jun 24, 2020
JayromWrites:


He's 15

The son of Martins Obagoal and nephew to Balotelli

I'm actually referring to Joe

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:00pm On Jun 24, 2020
Edopesin:


Wow
Hope say Martin's no do away match cos the resemblance is uncanny
resemblance?

Obafemi Martins is a real Lagosian while Aribo Father is from Kogi State.

Martins do away match?lols
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 11:08pm On Jun 24, 2020
TheLoneCitizen:

You made a serious blunder with what you wrote. Hen you say "First of all", the next phrase must be "go down low".

Badoo!! Gbayi!!!!!






First of all, when I said 'defender', I meant Central defender. In the Big 5 leagues, Omeruo is by far our best performing defender. Balogun and Ajayi don't even play in top-tier leagues.

Of all our central defenders in Europe including Ajayi, Omeruo ranks first in tackles, interceptions, clearances, wins more offsides.
In fact he is the 2nd best tackler in Italy.

The only defender who has better stats is Jordan Torunarigha and he doesn't play for us yet.

Respect! Respect!! Respect!!!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by sophtcopy: 11:12pm On Jun 24, 2020
sheyishemba:



baba how far nah
lol
He had good game today no doubt just like he did in Arsenal's Europa league final against Chelsea but consistency is the the major issue
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 11:12pm On Jun 24, 2020
komekn:


Do you know that Sol Bamba playing for Cardiff last season in the EPL, had better statistics than Van Dyke. In your opinion do you think that Bamba is better than Van Dyke❓

Statistics have to be used properly and as such are indicative but not entirely conclusive.

Cardiff were relegated back to the Championship with thier poor quality quintessential dogs of war, kick and rush type football. Where they belong.

Poor quality teams often spend the larger part of the game defending which means lots of blocks, long balls, interceptions, tackles, clearances. As a consequence they have lots of these types of high statistics. It is not a reflection of quality but desperation and limited ability .

Leganese is a poor team, that has only been able to win 5 games out of 31 games in La Liga. It is not benchmark for quality.

La Liga wins accolades and is classed as the best in Europe on account of the units of measurement used. Those accolades are almost entirely anchored on the exploits of Real and Madrid. You could add a lower third in this group Athletico Madrid.

So you have a huge gap between the top two teams Real and Barca who have probably one everything for the past 15 years. If you look at EPL over the same period you will have about 6 different teams over the same period winning the league.

But more worrying is the gap in quality of the bottom half of La liga. When you look at Segunda División it is nowhere near on the level of the Championship. So using the second tier Championship as a measure of players quality fails.

Look at the value of players in Bournemouth a relegation club and Leganese. In terms of players value Leganese cannot compete. Or we could look at Fulham in the Championship and the value of thier players once again Leganese cannot compete on value or quality.

Essentially Leganese would struggle to compete in the Championship. They would not be big spenders and be mid table at best IMO.

The reality is players follow the money not just the league. Nobody is going to leave the Championship for lower pay to just play in La Liga.

This is why l do not agree with your proposition.



As long as the team is the the second-tier they are just a 'can-be', let's face the status quo.

Talk of relegation, Ekong's Udinese are facing relegation, so his stats should compare favourably to Omeruo.

Talk of relegation, Andy Robertson, one of the current best left-backs in the world, was snapped up from a relegated Hull.

Talk of Championship, the worst team in the EPL this season, were the best in the Championship last season. So how can you judge a player based on second division football. You ovverrate this division.

Talking of Bamba to Van Dijk, it is a myth that Bamba had better statistics to Virgil. Let's check.
A player who scores 200 goals in 500 games is not a better scorer than one who scores 50 in 70. A player who averages 20 dribbles per game at a 60% accuracy is not a better dribbler than one who does 5 per game with a 95% accuracy.
So also, peripherally Bamba won more tackles than Virgil by far , but crucially Virgil had a better success rate. Bamba had a rate of 47.4%, Virgil was 92.9%. This means for every 5 tackles he made, there were 5 unsuccessful. But Virgil had just 1 unsuccessful for every 9 successful.

Ekong has a rate of 45.5% while Omeruo 64.3%. To damn Ekong even more, he has attempted just 29 tackles and has this woeful percentage, compared to Omeruo who has attempted 48.

Secondly, Van Dijk had a better rating compared to Bamba, so also Omeruo has the best rating of Nigerian defenders.

Respect, man, respect.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 11:14pm On Jun 24, 2020
Joebie:
WhoScored Rating: 7.32
SofaScore Rating: 6.8

Zaidu's SofaScore STATS in Santa Clara's away win yesterday:
HIGH POINTS
1 goal
3 clearances
Was never dribbled past
1 successful dribble out of 1 attempted (100%)
Won 3 out of 5 Aerial duels (60%)

MIDS
Won 3 out of 6 Ground Duels (50%)
4 successful passes (30%)
1 shot on target
1 key pass
1 interception
1 tackle

LOWS
0 successful crosses out of 8 attempted
0 successful long balls out 3 attempted
Lost possession 26 times

Haaa, this low is somehow o
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:14pm On Jun 24, 2020
JayromWrites:


Sir!

English football is not a standard of measurement for European football

These spanish teams you talking down on have dealt with premier league teams of late

Sevilla knocked out Manchester united under Mourinho

Chelsea had to hold on tight to luck to see out a draw against Valencia

"low club" atletico Madrid knocked out the runaway champions in the premier league


I won't place a bet on west ham winning against Real betis.. And I'm also certain a game between Villareal and Everton can swing either ways


Spanish football is not as bad as you trying to paint it.. I watched a group of fishermen from Ibiza playing well against Barcelona


English football is not the beginning and end of European football

And the championship is not as great as you want us to believe

Ayew is king there
Yes you are right but Seville beating Man Utd happens in football so no big deal.

Sir, championship is better than Spanish segunda and overall EPL is more competitive than la liga though I still rate LA liga as the best due to exploit of Real Madrid and Barcelona.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JayromWrites: 11:16pm On Jun 24, 2020
Utonwanne:


I'm actually referring to Joe
Okay
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 11:17pm On Jun 24, 2020
jihday:
Haaa, this low is somehow o

He can't cross for shit. Not my choice fullback at all.

I hope we don't make the mistake of overhyping him here. He seems average at best
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JayromWrites: 11:18pm On Jun 24, 2020
Kog45:
Yes you are right but Seville beating Man Utd happens in football so no big deal.

Sir, championship is better than Spanish segunda and overall EPL is more competitive than la liga though I still rate LA liga as the best due to exploit of Real Madrid and Barcelona.

Seconded

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:19pm On Jun 24, 2020
TheLoneCitizen:


As long as the team is the the second-tier they are just a 'can-be', let's face the status quo.

Talk of relegation, Ekong's Udinese are facing relegation, so his stats should compare favourably to Omeruo.

Talk of relegation, Andy Robertson, one of the current best left-backs in the world, was snapped up from a relegated Hull.

Talk of Championship, the worst team in the EPL this season, were the best in the Championship last season. So how can you judge a player based on second division football. You ovverrate this division.

Talking of Bamba to Van Dijk, it is a myth that Bamba had better statistics to Virgil. Let's check.
A player who scores 200 goals in 500 games is not a better scorer than one who scores 50 in 70. A player who averages 20 dribbles per game at a 60% accuracy is not a better dribbler than one who does 5 per game with a 95% accuracy.
So also, peripherally Bamba won more tackles than Virgil by far , but Virgil had a better success rate. Bamba had a rate of 47.4%, Virgil was 92.9%. This means for every 5 tackles he made, there were 5 unsuccessful. But Virgil had just 1 unsuccessful for every 9 successful.

Ekong has a rate of 45.5% while Omeruo 64.3%. To damn Ekong even more, he has attempted just 29 tackles and has this woeful percentage, compared to Omeruo who has attempted 48.

Secondly, Van Dijk had a better rating compared to Bamba, so also Omeruo has the best rating of Nigerian defenders.

Respect, man, respect.
My man am a real fan of Omeruo but statistics cannot be used to determine a better defender though my man did well this season but saying is the best is debatable.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 11:20pm On Jun 24, 2020
Tessyy1701:



Iwobi is overrated geng! Oya food is ready

Its just one match.

Let him do this consistently for two seasons first grin grin

Iwobi is grossly overrated cheesy grin

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