Guys , what is the best way for one with HND in Nigeria to get his BSc in USA ?

Hnd is equivalent to Associate degree. If you decide to get a degree then you might be asked to start from second yr. Then again if you plan to find a job base on that, the only job you can get is a technical job, (mostly in engineering) if you find tools handy.

@ Poster

I don't believe that HND is equivalent to an Associate degree. It takes 2 years in to get an Associate degree in US, 2 years to get an OND in Nigeria, and at least 4 years to get an HND. I feel that OND could be an equivalent of an Associate degree. To get a Bsc degree in USA, you must have completed nothing less than 120 credits. Credits is also known as units in Nigeria. As at the time you complete HND in from a good polytechnic Nigeria, you must have taken more than 120 units, if you add the units of all the courses you took from OND till you get the HND. . This is not to say that HND is the same as Bsc in U.S.A. But I'm only giving you this breakdown to show my disagreement with the fact HND is equivalent to an Associate degree in US.

Is it possible for an Associate degree holder to take a postgraduate diploma or postgraduate Certificate and proceed to a Masters degree in any part of the world? Isn't this possible with HND? These are the points of my argument. I'm not saying I'm perfectly right. Let WES be the judge.

To get the best answer, try and find someone who has done some evaluations with WES before with his HND. If "micktosin" has done one before, well he might be right. But ask him to give you a copy of his evaluation report as a proof of what he is saying. In the absence of that, I advice you contact WES yourself for the evaluation.

If you need a US Bsc degree, you might only need to transfer your HND credits. Resulting from our poor standard of education here, it's not likely that all your credits would be transferable. Some might be rubbish, irrelevant or outdated to an average school in U.S. If care is not taken, you might finish the degree at the same time as some one who has an Associate degree in U.S would finish. I want to imagine that that is what "micktosin" is saying here. Some one with an Associate degree in US might even finish before you.

If I were you, rather than looking for a Bsc degree with a HND, I would rather do some foundations to Masters, and go for a Masters degree in US after that.

Go to http://www.wes.org

Hope this is helpful.

http://www.merlinhelpsstudents.com/studentlife/afteruniversity/studyoptions/hnd.asp
You still need to confirm with reliable sources.

I learnt one or two things from that link. Thx.

Nigerian HND is higher than associate Degree, it is equivalent to a Bachelors Degree by virtue of total credit units. The total crdit units from ND1 to HND2 is greater than or equal to 120.

zebra:

Nigerian HND is higher than associate Degree, it is equivalent to a Bachelors Degree by virtue of total credit units. The total crdit units from ND1 to HND2 is greater than or equal to 120.

Can one with HND get an admission into masters programme in usa?

activities:

Can one with HND get an admission into masters programme in usa?

you may not be able to get a direct ms program with your HND in US, but you can be asked to take some undergraduate courses before proceeding to do the ms program. This happens even to some Bsc graduates from nigeria who wish to do ms in US.

Any update on this topic?

It old but it meet what a friend is looking for? Anyone with clearer picture?

HND is the worst qualification especially in engineering. You Think that you are an engineer, but you are not. You are not a technician as well becuase you are a bit higher in level. If you were Newton but with HND, then you are nothing. It is a respectless qualification. My best advice is to and study for a degree starting from zero. I have lost my hair because of HND.

this is serious ohhhh

Hello everyone,
I have been going through this since 2009, asking questions about the equivalence of HND In US, this and that, but unfortunately I couldn't find a reliable answer, till February 2012, and I thought of sharing it cos I believe other are out there like I was before.

First I would like to start by saying. YES!!!! NIGERIAN HND IS EQUIVALENT TO A US BACHELOR DEGREE. Am sure of what am saying because my HND transcripts (that's both my ND & HND) were evaluated as an American bachelors degree.

I would also like to tell you that working or getting admitted into American colleges is based on American qualifications and grades, so to work or get admission into American colleges, first try and get your certificate, diploma, degree or whatever you hold into American equivalence, and you can do that by sending your transcripts to one of the evaluation agencies, WES (world Education Services) http://www.wes.org/ is accepted by almost all American colleges but you can still find out more at http://www.naces.org/members.htm

For more guidelines on how to get to admission into American College with a HND a brother has helped out on his blog, and you can check it out here http://www.farooqkperogi.com/2009/12/hnd-and-american-universities.html and http://www.farooqkperogi.com/2009/03/looking-at-american-education-with_382.html

I would like to share my experience: I graduated with a HND in Electronics Engineering in 2009 from a Nigerian Federal Polytechnic, and sent my transcript to World Education Services WES on October 2011, I paid $202 for the service, the evaluation is supposed to be completed in 7days once all my documents are received, but we all know our 9ja na, considering the fact that the country was in crises it took me 3months to get my transcript to WES, again early JAN 2012 WES sent back another copy to FED POLY, for verification, and at the time our beloved nation is on strike due to subsidy matter and boko haram wahala, till 1st feb 2012, that's when WES got a feed back and my application became complete, on 8th Feb, 2012, my evaluation was complete.

I graduate in Nigeria with 3.14 out of 4.0 CGPA, which is of course our Upper Credit as we call it. But to my surprise from the evaluation my GPA was high to 3.56 out 4.0, that is based on the American System, moreover, in US they use a system of Credit Hours to determine your qualification, and in other to have a US bachelor degree, you must at-least have a minimum of 120 Credit Hours, but from my evaluation I had 135 Credit Hours, which is almost more-than that of the US. And as am typing this I have already applied to one of the top 15 engineering and technology university in the world for my masters program with a HND, and they have assured me that I would get it, after all am having a 3.56 GPA, and a good GRE score (GRE is an exams u sit for before applying for most graduate programs in US, its just like GMAT).
But still there are some few things you should be aware of, just because your transcripts are equivalent to a US degree, doesn't mean you will not take undergraduate courses, yes you will automatically be enrolled to a masters degree, as far as you meet the requirements, but there are some certain courses that you must take which of course are undergraduate courses, and the reason is because those courses are expected by all American graduates and in other to be one, you must go through it, such courses are like those related to the American policies, government, etc. (I haven't reached that stage, am just telling you based on what the school I applied for feed me too).

So to all those who keep asking, what is the equivalence of HND in US, its equivalent to a BACHELOR DEGREE but you really need to make good grades in your HND before you have something of worth, because I don't think there is any American University that would give you masters program with a minimum of 3.0GPA, U might get a provisional admission with a minimum of 2.5GPA (This is based on my reasoning, and what I have been going through, so just look out, cos I might be wrong)

If you need any proof regarding this, or guidelines don't hesitate to tell me or reply me, I promise i would help if I can, cos few years ago, I was once in the same point.

Cheers!

Some people see HND certificate in nigeria as an ordinary paper. The truth is that the total credit accrued in the nigerian HND is greater than or equal to that of a Bsc. But to be on a safer side go for a Bsc program.

Pls i would love u to talk on the fone. 07033038097 Send urs pls. U can even flash me. U are truly a good man for the info u have provided.

I have seen someone share his story on Nairaland about using his HND from Nigeria to continue to PhD after his Masters in the US. So i would agree that HND graduates from Nigeria don't have it that bad after all. Just run away for a masters program and kill HND stigma for life.

That's good bro! Kindly help us forward this analysis and evaluation to the nigerian president, education minister, house of assembly members, head of service, and other ignorant fellows in the govt who think that the poly curriculum is inferior to that of the uni and hence their support for the discrimination against poly graduates. Weldone!

I have heard about WES, but what i am yet to be cleared with is, is it a must that i do GRE before i apply for MS programme in USA especially online

@Ghost87 and Nwafor : pls let me have ur contact so that we can discuss better..

@GNwafor- Ok, I hate to burst ur bubble but why are u up here spreading lies. My sis went to the same school and a US university made her go all 4 years. An HND is not equivalent to a Bachelors, sorry. Its a only a certificate. A Bsc is equivalent to an Associates.

^^^
easy with the way you call people 'liars' for sharing their stories and experiences.

Your sister's case may be different for certain reasons; that doesn't make her case the standard.

Different scenarios for different people.

I know people who went into MSc programs directly with HNDs too.

. . . and "a BSc is equivalent to an associates" ? How ? Where ? When ? Wh?? ?? ??
Where did you get this from ?

Chegal: @GNwafor- Ok, I hate to burst ur bubble but why are u up here spreading lies. My sis went to the same school and a US university made her go all 4 years. An HND is not equivalent to a Bachelors, sorry. Its a only a certificate. A Bsc is equivalent to an Associates.

how could u call people here liars when u're the only one clearly uninformed? And who told u bsc is equivalent to an associate degree? Do ur Research well b4 making conclusions!

Ladson: I have heard about WES, but what i am yet to be cleared with is, is it a must that i do GRE before i apply for MS programme in USA especially online

@Ladson; In the USA, if you are seeking undergraduate & graduate admission, and you are a foreign student, you must first obtain what is called Credential Evaluation first from accredited independent organization. In USA, WES - World Education Service happens to be the most respected and honored credential evaluation organization, simply because it is the pioneer organization that established NACES-http://naces.org/. As international student also, you must write TOEFL or IELTS, and have an acceptable score in the English language Test. Also you must have a good grade in you CGPA here in Nigeria, so that when the Evaluators finish their evaluation, you will have a good CGPA in the American System.

adekanmbi1986: @Ghost87 and Nwafor : pls let me have ur contact so that we can discuss better..

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We can talk on: cementingprofessional@hotmail.com :

ghost87: Hello everyone,
I have been going through this since 2009, asking questions about the equivalence of HND In US, this and that, but unfortunately I couldn't find a reliable answer, till February 2012, and I thought of sharing it cos I believe other are out there like I was before.

First I would like to start by saying. YES!!!! NIGERIAN HND IS EQUIVALENT TO A US BACHELOR DEGREE. Am sure of what am saying because my HND transcripts (that's both my ND & HND) were evaluated as an American bachelors degree.

I would also like to tell you that working or getting admitted into American colleges is based on American qualifications and grades, so to work or get admission into American colleges, first try and get your certificate, diploma, degree or whatever you hold into American equivalence, and you can do that by sending your transcripts to one of the evaluation agencies, WES (world Education Services) http://www.wes.org/ is accepted by almost all American colleges but you can still find out more at http://www.naces.org/members.htm

For more guidelines on how to get to admission into American College with a HND a brother has helped out on his blog, and you can check it out here http://www.farooqkperogi.com/2009/12/hnd-and-american-universities.html and http://www.farooqkperogi.com/2009/03/looking-at-american-education-with_382.html

I would like to share my experience: I graduated with a HND in Electronics Engineering in 2009 from a Nigerian Federal Polytechnic, and sent my transcript to World Education Services WES on October 2011, I paid $202 for the service, the evaluation is supposed to be completed in 7days once all my documents are received, but we all know our 9ja na, considering the fact that the country was in crises it took me 3months to get my transcript to WES, again early JAN 2012 WES sent back another copy to FED POLY, for verification, and at the time our beloved nation is on strike due to subsidy matter and boko haram wahala, till 1st feb 2012, that's when WES got a feed back and my application became complete, on 8th Feb, 2012, my evaluation was complete.

I graduate in Nigeria with 3.14 out of 4.0 CGPA, which is of course our Upper Credit as we call it. But to my surprise from the evaluation my GPA was high to 3.56 out 4.0, that is based on the American System, moreover, in US they use a system of Credit Hours to determine your qualification, and in other to have a US bachelor degree, you must at-least have a minimum of 120 Credit Hours, but from my evaluation I had 135 Credit Hours, which is almost more-than that of the US. And as am typing this I have already applied to one of the top 15 engineering and technology university in the world for my masters program with a HND, and they have assured me that I would get it, after all am having a 3.56 GPA, and a good GRE score (GRE is an exams u sit for before applying for most graduate programs in US, its just like GMAT).
But still there are some few things you should be aware of, just because your transcripts are equivalent to a US degree, doesn't mean you will not take undergraduate courses, yes you will automatically be enrolled to a masters degree, as far as you meet the requirements, but there are some certain courses that you must take which of course are undergraduate courses, and the reason is because those courses are expected by all American graduates and in other to be one, you must go through it, such courses are like those related to the American policies, government, etc. (I haven't reached that stage, am just telling you based on what the school I applied for feed me too).

So to all those who keep asking, what is the equivalence of HND in US, its equivalent to a BACHELOR DEGREE but you really need to make good grades in your HND before you have something of worth, because I don't think there is any American University that would give you masters program with a minimum of 3.0GPA, U might get a provisional admission with a minimum of 2.5GPA (This is based on my reasoning, and what I have been going through, so just look out, cos I might be wrong)

If you need any proof regarding this, or guidelines don't hesitate to tell me or reply me, I promise i would help if I can, cos few years ago, I was once in the same point.

Cheers!

@Ghost; The truth is always the best. You have an informed mind, and have attested to the fact that Nigerian HND is equivalent to US BS degree, simply because you have done your Evaluation thru WES. Bravo!

PASHA1:
HND is the worst qualification especially in engineering. You Think that you are an engineer, but you are not. You are not a technician as well becuase you are a bit higher in level. If you were Newton but with HND, then you are nothing. It is a respectless qualification. My best advice is to and study for a degree starting from zero. I have lost my hair because of HND.

@PASHA1; All hope is not lost, as engineering student, I have contacted Nigerian Society of Engineer (NSE), as per their regulation, with HND, you must have either a PGD in the same engineering field (from a COREN accredited Engineering PGD) or an MS in Engineering in the same engineering field. Thereafter you can register with NSE followed by COREN.

Chegal: @GNwafor- Ok, I hate to burst ur bubble but why are u up here spreading lies. My sis went to the same school and a US university made her go all 4 years. An HND is not equivalent to a Bachelors, sorry. Its a only a certificate. A Bsc is equivalent to an Associates.

@Chegal, Thanks for your comments. I am a very busy professional, was just reading online until I stumbled into Nairaland and I got to this thread. I dont care whether you believe it or not. Am not even interested whether you believe it or not. The only problem we have in Nigeria is that we have failed consistently to accept and learn from our own experiences and the experiences of others. My sharing this knowledge and information here is for positive-minded individual who feel and think that there is still future ahead of them after their HND program. For your sis that went to IMT Enugu, because you are very uninformed, there are several Credential Evaluation organizations in the US. Depending on the organization your sis used/chose, (if at all she even knows that there is what is called Credential Evaluation or Credit Transfer in US higher education admission requirement), the evaluator may decide to write anything on the evaluation because of the level of information you sis provided. For your information, The Credential Evaluators work with the information you provided them with especially those who are not NACES members who are just there online to rip off your hard-earned dollars. I still have to state it categorically clear to you and others following this thread that, when I completed my application in June 2012 and sent the required documentation for students from Nigeria. WES was not yet satisfied with the documents, because of the bad and poor national image we poses as a Country, they have to write to the Registrar of IMT Enugu for verification and authentication of the Transcripts & Statement of Result, and finally IMT replied them in late February 2013 with another copy of my Transcripts (ND & HND).
Since we Nigerian has only one adage that says that "see is believing", if you are a graduate of any Polytechnic/monotechnic in Nigeria, do your own Credential Evualation preferably with WES and share your experiences. Is just about 200 box ($200). For your information WES studies, evaluates and updates the education systems of over 200 countries worldwide, and they have very experienced Credential Evaluators with many years of experience.
I still tell you that the "difference between you and and your future is the information you have today to face and conquer your tomorrow" (A food for thought).
Please this is not a personal attack, but with the level of information proliferation on the Internet, people need to verify and authenticate what they say online.
@Chegal, there 8 Billion Pages (web pages) on the internet, use it wisely, you can improve on the information at your disposal. Cheers!

learnt a lot from this thread...thanks guys

Interesting thread.

This thread has made me feel great&i must admit;this thread is not for every body.It is strictly for the serious minded.some folks are just looking for ways to weigh their fellow Nigerians down.A million thanks to those who have contributed positively to this thread.I love u all
N.B Only hungry minds grow

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Yes, the Nigerian HND is considered to be the equivalent of a Bsc in most developed countries. It is only in Nigeria that university graduates do not want it to be so without giving any valid technical reason. I passed through both poly and uni, and i can tell u with 99% confidence that the poly curricula is richer and better than what is obtainable in the uni. May God help Nigeria with good and focused leaders.

Nice one bro.please canyou put me through? i have HND in Purchasing and Supply with 3.14 in scale of 4.0. im intrested in Manitoba.

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please my oga. Can you please send mi the admission officer email address so i can mail them. I have 3.63 cgpa in computer science and i wish to do my master in computer science or related course at my master level. Tnx