achorladey:


How did Paul become a Christian?

That was the QUESTION asked as a result of your brother Maximus69 saying.....So to become a Christian, someone must come to preach to you

You go DIVERT the whole thing now

Bros pls CONFESS if Mark 1:13-15, Mark 13:10 and Matthew 24:14 is in your Bible ?

Make I still ask you, Acts 9:6,19 what did Jesus instruct Paul to do?

Shebi Paul was with the Apostles playing chess?

Janosky:



Acts 9:5-6, What did Jesus instruct Paul to do ?
Acts 9:19 , Paul spent some days with Jesus disciples learning how to play Chess

Romans 10:13-15
"For everyone who will call the name of THE LORD JEHOVAH shall be saved." *

14Therefore, how would they call to This One unless they believed in him, or how would they believe him unless they heard him, or how would they hear without a preacher? 15Or how will they preach, unless they will be sent, as it is written: "How beautiful are the feet of The Messengers of peace and of The Messengers of good things!"

The Apostle you carry him matter for head like Gala is already RUBBISHING your claims

You are a disgrace to the Bible because you are faithful to your JW lies only.
Now read and deny that Paul said himself that no one but Jesus taught him the gospel he went preaching to all gentiles. Or is Paul a liar who learnt from men and later denied it. smbh.

DrLiveLogic:


With all due respect, the person that taught you the scriptures didn't study properly. This is why it's safer to learn directly from Jesus Himself than men. Let me show you your blunder.
Acts9:6 you quoted does not make your point. Paul was directed by Jesus to wait for further direction which came as the disciple Ananias baptizing him in the Holy Spirit.
Paul didn't go to learn from any man. Hear from him.
Gal 1:11-12 KJV But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Gal 1:17 KJV Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.
Gal 2:14 KJV But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?

Do you see now that Paul was taught by God directly and even went on to correct the leader of the church, Peter in his erroneous practice.

Look again and learn, friend.
1Co 11:23-26 KJV 23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: 24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. 25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. 26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.

Do you see again that the same thing the apostles learnt from Jesus directly, Paul also learnt from Jesus by revelation and not from the disciples. Accept the simple fact. Jesus teaches men directly by revelation. Any one who is afraid to let you learn directly from God but only wants you to learn from him is leading you to a sect.

Where is the Rozz guy sef. I hope he's not running away?

TRINITY reloaded!

DrLiveLogic:


What's this. An all out attack from JWs. Lol. 20 goats will still scamper before one Lion. Lol. I hope Rozz is seated.

Hahahaha. The problem with you JWs is that you don't know God. You all think God is like a man or an angel who can't be in two places at and you wonder how God can be on earth and heaven at the same time.
Joh 3:13 KJV And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is (Greek: being) in heaven.
I bet y'all never knew Jesus said He was in two places at the same time. Earth and heaven at the same time.

I hear you ask what sense does this make?
Sit down you carnal minds and learn knowledge.
God's destiny for man is to make him in the image of God i.e. to be exactly as God is.
How can a creature who cannot conceive what the Creator is like become like the Creator except the Creator first becomes turns Himself into a creature and shows as a fellow creature, what the creature must do to become as the Creator.
Is this not the simple gospel? God became a man so that He can show man how to become God.
Read and learn.
Phi 2:6-7 6 Who, being in nature, God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

Do you see clearly the mystery. Jesus was God because it is only God that is equal with God, no angel or creature is equal with God when God wanted to manifest as a creature. He gave up His divine reputation and took the form of flesh and blood to show men that only through the cross can men become God. (Let this mind be in you, Phil2:5)

Trinity is not 3 persons but One person who takes 3 stages to reveal Himself fully.

TATIME:


My but is all about what Jesus taught his followers directly. There were three ways Jesus taught his followers, through words, thought and actions.
Paul must learn these three things from the disciples who worked with Jesus in the ministry. Jesus' direct appearance to Paul was to help him beyond reasonable doubt that Jesus is the expected Messiah.
So all what Paul needed is to start applying everything the Hebrew scriptures (OT) says about the Messiah to Jesus!

BUT the REVELATION is a limited liability company of TATIME that is not possible for JESUS to convey his WORDS, THOUGHT and ACTIONS.

Maximus69:


You sabi too much joh!

Jesus asked his followers to go preaching and teaching {Matthew 28:19-20} abeg who are they to preach and teach if nobody will teach you before you become a Christian? Romans 10:14

Bible plenty for everywhere yet Pastors still dey teach people, even dey collect money (tithes) for teaching members the word of God, abeg why not tell your Pastors that they are doing what Jesus supposed to do himself?

Walahi Talahi sorry is your name!

LMAO. What you're tryna do now? My friend, I'm not one who gets distracted by insults in an argument. So don't bother, we will trash this out without distractions.
Allow Rozz jejely watch your disgrace here and don't distract the convo.

Btw, I'm not saying that Jesus doesn't send people out to preach. I'm saying that Jesus reveals Himself to people directly as well as through human agents. You can never argue it from the Bible.

Janosky:


Bros pls CONFESS if Mark 1:13-15, Mark 13:10 and Matthew 24:14 is in your Bible ?

Make I still ask you, Acts 9:6,19 what did Jesus instruct Paul to do?

Shebi Paul was with the Apostles playing chess?

DIVERSION mode activated. I told you earlier. The only thing you have to tell is PAUL is A LIAR.

Who met PAUL FIRST before being asked to meet people. Are you not UNDERSTOODING

TATIME:
TRINITY reloaded!

Oga, it's not reloaded, LMAO. It's just that you never understood it just like Rozz.

TATIME:
TRINITY reloaded!

Another version of TRINITY my brother!

Just called 20 Trinitarians here to define their TRINITY God, the wait and hear logic from people like DrLiveLogic!

Before it was three separate persons all coequal and coeternal, later it was Father, Jesus and holy ghost one higher than the other, and now ladies and gentlemen the latest version of TRINITY from Pastor DrLiveLogic, it's one person manifesting in three different forms!

DrLiveLogic:


What's this. An all out attack from JWs. Lol. 20 goats will still scamper before one Lion. Lol. I hope Rozz is seated.

Hahahaha. The problem with you JWs is that you don't know God. You all think God is like a man or an angel who can't be in two places at and you wonder how God can be on earth and heaven at the same time.
Joh 3:13 KJV And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is (Greek: being) in heaven.
I bet y'all never knew Jesus said He was in two places at the same time. Earth and heaven at the same time.

I hear you ask what sense does this make?
Sit down you carnal minds and learn knowledge.
God's destiny for man is to make him in the image of God i.e. to be exactly as God is.
How can a creature who cannot conceive what the Creator is like become like the Creator except the Creator first becomes turns Himself into a creature and shows as a fellow creature, what the creature must do to become as the Creator.
Is this not the simple gospel? God became a man so that He can show man how to become God.
Read and learn.
Phi 2:6-7 6 Who, being in nature, God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

Do you see clearly the mystery. Jesus was God because it is only God that is equal with God, no angel or creature is equal with God when God wanted to manifest as a creature. He gave up His divine reputation and took the form of flesh and blood to show men that only through the cross can men become God. (Let this mind be in you, Phil2:5)

Trinity is not 3 persons but One person who takes 3 stages to reveal Himself fully.

Bros, John 14:28 Jesus Christ says your Trinitarian quote of Philippians 2:6-7 is FALSE.

Any rendition of Phil 2:6-7 tilted against John 14:28 is a Trinitarian FRAUD.

The holy Bible, John 1:18 "Jesus revealed his own Father" as in his heavenly Father" NOT "one person who takes 3 stages to reveal himself"

Solite3 and brocab both Trinity adherents won't even agree with your version of Trinity

achorladey:


BUT the REVELATION is a limited liability company of TATIME that is not possible for JESUS to convey his WORDS, THOUGHT and ACTIONS.

I'm sorry, i forgot it's you!

Maximus69:


Another version of TRINITY my brother!

Just called 20 Trinitarians here to define their TRINITY God, the wait and hear logic from people like DrLiveLogic!

Before it was three separate persons all coequal and coeternal, later it was Father, Jesus and holy ghost one higher than the other, and now ladies and gentlemen the latest version of TRINITY from Pastor DrLiveLogic, it's one person manifesting in three different forms!

LMAO. I don't care what you or anyone else conceives of trinity. For all I know you could all be wrong. Even all of us including me could be wrong. But we're about to find out soon thanks to Rozz.

TATIME:

I'm sorry, i forgot it's you!

DrLiveLogic:


Oga, it's not reloaded, lol. It's just that you never understood it just like Rozz.

I just hope Rozz will start learning another version of this your TRINITY, because we've heard so many Trinitarians on this same thread whose definition on the same subject totally contradicts one another.
Please try to scale through the earlier posts from your fellow Trinitarians before you complicate issues further, perhaps you will tell us who is right or wrong among you guys!

DrLiveLogic:


Lol. I don't care what you or anyone else conceives of Trinity. For all I know you could all be wrong. Even all of us could be wrong. But we're about to find out soon thanks to Rozz.

John 14:28 ,John 20:17,30-31,
Revelations 3:5,12 .
Bros, Jesus Christ himself RUBBISHED the Trinity
in heaven and earth.

Paul who had an encounter with Jesus Christ practiced and preached the teaching of Jesus Christ. 1 Corinthians 11:1,3. Acts 9:20.
1 Corinthians 3:23

DrLiveLogic:


Lol. I don't care what you or anyone else conceives of Trinity. For all I know you could all be wrong. Even all of us could be wrong. But we're about to find out soon thanks to Rozz.

Never mind about Rozz, she isn't that dumb not to notice where there is confusion!

At least go and reconcile with your fellow Trinitarians then you can comeback to tell us the definition you all agreed upon!

Maximus69:


Never mind about Rozz, she's not that dumb to notice where there is confusion!

At least go and reconcile with your fellow Trinitarians then you can comeback to tell us the definition you all agreed upon!

TATIME:


I just hope Rozz will start learning another version of this your TRINITY, because we've heard so many Trinitarians on this same thread whose definition on the same subject totally contradicts one another.
Please try to scale through the earlier posts from your fellow Trinitarians before you complicate issues further, perhaps you will tell us who is right or wrong among you guys!

DrLiveLogic is not Confused unlike all his fellow Trinitarians, but he's only interested in correcting JWs who refused to accept the Logical conclusion of various teachers and preachers of TRINITY!

achorladey:


DIVERSION mode activated. I told you earlier. The only thing you have to tell is PAUL is A LIAR.

[b]Who met PAUL FIRST before being asked to meet people. [/b]Are you not UNDERSTOODING

LIENUS
Archoladey DIVERSIONARY mode activated.
Is that your claim in the screenshot?

Janosky:


Bros, John 14:28 Jesus Christ says your Trinitarian quote of Philippians 2:6-7 is FALSE.


The holy Bible, John 1:18 "Jesus revealed his own Father" as in his heavenly Father" NOT "one person who takes 3 stages to reveal himself"

Carnal minded friend who cannot receive things of the spirit. Did I not just show you that Jesus was on earth and heaven at the same time (John 3:13) because He and the Father are one Being (John 10:30, Deut 6:4). Can an angel pull that off.
JWs think and come out of your brainwashing o, before it'll be too late to save you.
You only need a little study, not even much, to show how flawed your doctrines are.
Because of His purpose of making man God, God took human form and became a Creature to show a creaturely way to become as the Creator.
This Creator becoming a Creature on earth is what is meant by Son while remaining the Creator in Heaven at the same time (John 3:13) is what is called Father. It is one Being in two realms at the same time playing two roles, unlearned folk.

Janosky:

LIENUS
Archoladey DIVERSIONARY mode activated.
Is that your DIVERSIONARY claim in the screenshot?

You know who you ARE. Don't DIVERT, is PAUL A LIAR?

Who met Paul FIRST before he was ASKED to meet others?

Had you ANSWER we will know if PAUL was playing CHESS with the APOSTLES

Maximus69:


Never mind about Rozz, she isn't that dumb not to notice where there is confusion!

At least go and reconcile with your fellow Trinitarians then you can comeback to tell us the definition you all agreed upon!

Don't link me to anyone. I know only myself and can stand alone to defend what I believe. I don't know what "fellow trinitarians" means. The only group I see here is all you JWs against a single fellow, me.
I am about to deal a killing blow through the Bible to the lies you have been taught by men without understanding of spiritual things who try conceive of God the Almighty as they would an ordinary man, wondering how he can be in heaven and earth at the same time and play Father and Son at the same time(Jn3:13), LMAO. Wait a little, you and Janosky& friends.

achorladey:


The image below is the reason Johnw47 call you a LIAR. From the above you say someone is INSULTING you day and night, which is what you draw upon YOURSELF by supporting another man's INSULT by 101%

continue digging up post,anyways its a snakelike habit

Hmm I don't even know what to type.Maybe I was wrong for this Post.

Rozz:
continue digging up post,anyways its a snakelike habit

Tags tags tags labels labels labels. You don't want to be insulted then you go about giving TAGS and LABELS.

DrLiveLogic:

So Rozz just told me you're a JW. No wonder. I was already suspecting it. You've shown utter disregard for scriptures from the onset. You're just recycling what I've already trashed well in our convo cause you're now empty and don't know what to say.

Here's another test for you Rozz, since you think so highly of the JW. Read our exchange and tell me what you think about our positions and then I will know further if you are a mole.

honestly ehn I'm not anything near you guys as rregards knowledge of the scriptures but I wish you were here earlier.I only asked questions and needed answers to quench my curiosity

DrLiveLogic:


Carnal minded man who cannot receive spiritual things. Did I not just show you that Jesus was on earth and heaven at the same time(Jn3:13) because He and the Father are one Being(Jn10:30, Deut6:4)
But because of His purpose of making man God, God took human form and became creaturely to show a creaturely way to become as the Creator.
This Creator becoming a Creature on earth is what is meant by Son while remaining the Creator in Heaven at the same time(Jn3:13) is what is called Father. It is One Being in two realms at the same time playing two roles.

Your claim on John 10:30 and Deut 6:4 is nothing more than Trinitarian DELUSION
John 14:28 Jesus Christ himself RUBBISHED your Trinitarian "one being" claim you guys attached to John 10:30....
John 14:28, 1Corinthian3:23 & Rev3:5,12, "One being" dey greater than himself in heaven
What a grand DELUSION !

John 1:18 is carnal minded statement to DrLiveLogic wey know Bible pass Jesus Christ

1 Corinthians 15:24-27, Bros your DELUSION no dey tire you ?

TATIME:
There are two segments of the scriptures that one must study to have full knowledge of God's word, the OT and the NT! Paul and all those we read about in the Bible had knowledge of the OT so it was the NT that needed to be thoroughly explained to anyone so that they can know how to apply the prophecies about Christ correctly. Paul was educated in accordance with the tenets of the OT so all what he needed is who is the Christ that those prophecies are referring to?For Jesus to have spoken directly with Paul from the sky has given Paul enough evidence that the promised Messiah is Jesus. That's why he said the revelation of Jesus he got directly without anyone teaching him, but there are certain things he must learn from the Apostles because he never worked with Jesus one on one!

No Mr., why must you people reject the Bible when it's clearly in front of you. I know why, its so you can continue with your JW lies. Paul truly learnt the OT from the Pharisees under Gamaliel. But what did he do with all that learning?(Philippians 3:5-8 ). He threw it in the bin and had to relearn everything at the feet of Christ. (Philippians 3:7-10).
He left behind the other Pharisees whose learning opposed the gospel and became a foremost preacher of the gospel for which they even tried to kill him again and again.
Don't you guys read the Bible or you have your own version?

He was taught all of gospel he preached to the gentiles by the Lord Himself and learnt nothing from other disciples either. You people should allow the man and stop denying his own words now. Is it by force?
Paul didn't go to learn the gospel from any man. Hear from him and stop disregarding the horse's mouth.
Gal 1:11-12 KJV But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Gal 1:17 KJV Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.

Even the ordinances of the gospel (communion, gifts of the spirit etc.) that Paul learnt were from the Lord Jesus.
Look again and learn, friend.
1Co 11:23-26 KJV 23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: 24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. 25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. 26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.

Do you see again that the same thing the apostles learnt from Jesus directly, Paul also learnt from Jesus by revelation and not from the disciples.

Accept the simple fact. Jesus teaches men directly by revelation. Any one who is afraid to let you learn directly from God but only wants you to learn from him is leading you to a cult.

You JWs don't study the scriptures, you just sit and learn what some elders tell you and none of you are bold enough to question any lie.
Cc:omokoginimi

Rozz:
honestly ehn I'm not anything near you guys as rregards knowledge of the scriptures but I wish you were here earlier.I only asked questions and needed answers to quench my curiosity

Has your curiousity been quenched then? Where do you stand now? What's your current position after all this posts, huh? I would like to know the answers to these also.


I am here now. It's not too late to learn but I want your answers to my earlier two questions still about who Jesus is to you and also about the other one.

If you claim it's because of someone here you don't want to post, send me a mail with answers to all these questions.

I also hope you're watching how shallow JWs arguments are because I'm not seeing your follow up comments or questions in all these as someone who is really here to learn?

DrLiveLogic:

No sir. Paul indeed learnt the OT from the Pharisees under Gamaliel. But what did he do with all that learning?(Phil3:5-8 ). He threw it in the bin and had to relearn everything at the feet of Christ. (Phil3:7-10).
He left behind the other Pharisees whose learning was opposed to the gospel and became a foremost preacher of the gospel for which they even tried to kill him again and again.
Don't you guys read the Bible?

He was taught all of gospel he preached to the gentiles by the Lord Himself and learnt nothing from other disciples either. You people should allow the man and stop denying his own words now. Is it by force?
Paul didn't go to learn the gospel from any man. Hear from him and stop disregarding the horse's mouth.
Gal 1:11-12 KJV But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Gal 1:17 KJV Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.

Even the ordinances of the gospel (communion, gifts of the spirit etc.) that Paul learnt were from the Lord Jesus.
Look again and learn, friend.
1Co 11:23-26 KJV 23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: 24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. 25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. 26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.

Do you see again that the same thing the apostles learnt from Jesus directly, Paul also learnt from Jesus by revelation and not from the disciples.

Accept the simple fact. Jesus teaches men directly by revelation. Any one who is afraid to let you learn directly from God but only wants you to learn from him is leading you to a cult.

You JWs don't study the scriptures, you just sit and learn what some elders tell you and none of you are bold enough to question any lie.

HOGWASH

Hebrews 1:1-2, Revelations 1:1, Jehovah's servants must learn from studying the Bible.
Remember Paul wrote Hebrews

Janosky:


Your claim on John 10:30 and Deut 6:4 is nothing more than Trinitarian DELUSION
John 14:28 Jesus Christ himself RUBBISHED your Trinitarian "one being" claim you guys attached to John 10:30....
John 14:28, 1Corinthian3:23 & Rev3:5,12, "One being" dey greater than himself in heaven
What a grand DELUSION !

John 1:18 is carnal minded statement to DrLiveLogic wey know Bible pass Jesus Christ

1 Corinthians 15:24-27, Bros your DELUSION no dey tire you ?

You are so unlearned my friend. I'm coming to bring you scriptures to dismantle your whole JW cult. Just be patient.

As for John 14:28, 1 Corinthians 3:23, Revelation 3:12, 1Corinthians 15:27, All these are just simply explained in the concept of one Being playing two roles as Creator and Creature(Man) at the same time, my unlearned friend.

John 1:18, LMAO. You're giving me scriptures for my point.
The Son was in the bosom of the Father and on earth at the same time. Isn't that my point? Can a created being/angel or man be inside the Father's bosom. I hope you can already see that Jesus alone is truly God.
Do you see how unreasonable JWs doctrines are?

Janosky:


HOGWASH

Hebrews 1:1-2, Revelations 1:1, Jehovah's servants must learn from studying the Bible.
Remember Paul wrote Hebrews

How great is your ignorance. Rozz please come and witness this phenomenal display of JW confusion.

Janosky, kindly tell us when the Son(a person) became the Bible(a book).
You keep giving me scriptures for my position. Thank you for showing us that Paul himself said in Hebrews 1:1-2 that God spoke not through even humans but through the Son Himself.


Also show us where John studied the Bible in Revelation. Was it not Jesus that showed him those things. This is despicable ignorance. Smh.
Don't post again until you pass it round for scrutiny from your fellow JWs before they think you're a traitor, LMAO.

rabzy:


Well Jehovah's Witnesses never taught that they would be the only one saved...

read the posts
i'm talking about what mad max said, he has said that when Jesus returns he will kill all but the false jw's