Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 11:56am On Jul 01, 2020 |
ahiboilandgas: why not i was saving 100 percent of my monthly income when i was working ,i notice my investment like rents and side hustle can cater for all my needs ...it took some years to achieve....when tb was 18.5 ...a single investments of 20m can take me 365 days .... Your salary, rent, profit from business, dividends, coupons etc the combination of all these will give you your income. It is always good if your salary and hustles contribute 50% or more of your income 1 Like |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by NL1960: 11:59am On Jul 01, 2020 |
bidosko: i always wonder too how inflation rate works, because people complain that making 10% a year is still a negative rate as a result of inflation. Most product or service do not increase their price yearly Quite true. That is why i hardly bother myself with all these quotes about inflation. For example, there has not been any significant increase in my kids tuition and boarding fees in secondary school for many years now despite the exchange rate moving to 360. Dollars is not spent in their schools nor is the food they eat imported. 9 Likes |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 12:45pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
ahiboilandgas: nice ...but u want money too ....less than 0.1 of Nigerians can have 1bn in there life time ....so u like money too ... Its called security, comfort zone. Securing the future considering instability of our currency |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by niyoni: 12:51pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
Barrytone: In response to quotes: my Tbills investment is solely savings to arrive at a certain targeted figure then I move them to bond and then repeat same process. Planning to commence bond investment Q1 of next year. I hardly have the 50m cap at hand when opportunity unveil as I have several smaller amount in treasury bills. On my source of income, so far I have only two being salary and Tbills interest but hoping to do bond from next year. I have decided to leave out my properties as there are not profitable and can only cater for few drinks. On why am not into biz, simply I can't monitor them as I wish. 2019 April I invested 1.1m on a young man to acquire mini bus and return my money in 18months. Yesterday I invited him over for account balancing and realized he just paid 490k in over a year. That can't be my biz, not ready and don't have time for fights. My target for now is to have a working capital of 1b naira then retire from my salary work. From my calculations this will be achieved by my year 55. No matter the value of naira then I bet shouldn't be 50% less from today's value. All I need is sustainability, change car every 3 years, maintain my house, pay domestic staff, have enough for health care when needs arise and cater for the needy in my little way. 1b at 10% is about 8m monthly and if value is half then am looking at 4m of today's value. With 4m monthly presently, I can live that live I so wished. I do not intend to go looking for more money as am busy planning my dead and really don't care what happens after am gone. how long do we think a 55yrs old man will survive. Those remaining years are for groove and not hustle. I can't be dangote that is building refinery at his age. My activity stops at 55, I just want to breath and not own money that might become useless to me yet useful to generation unborn. I hustled mine from the scratch, they will inherit my 1b capital and that's all. As it stands today, if I loss my job, my investment is capable of paying me same salary am receiving as it stands. There is amount of money you get and it just keep going up without doing a thing. On the 4% Tbills "savings" plan, with huge capital, you wouldn't feel the low rate hence those guys with billions keep over subscribing. They wouldn't risk their billions on this naija economy. All they do is recycle the billions. So even at 1%, its still over subscribed. Not a bad one Sir. However, you may want to put up a trans-generational wealth plan in place, even if indirectly through trusts. 1 billion naira is huge but it can easily be mis-managed by an inheriting generation that didn't work for it, and with no knowledge to grow or at least preserve it. You wouldn't want to have a life of comfort and have generations after u living a lesser life. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by olujaidi: 1:00pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by einsteine(m): 1:47pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
bidosko: i always wonder too how inflation rate works, because people complain that making 10% a year is still a negative rate as a result of inflation. Most product or service do not increase their price yearly Most? That's not true. Most increase their prices yearly. |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by HRSupport: 2:41pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 2:49pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by topsquino(m): 3:21pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
Barrytone: In response to quotes: my Tbills investment is solely savings to arrive at a certain targeted figure then I move them to bond and then repeat same process. Planning to commence bond investment Q1 of next year. I hardly have the 50m cap at hand when opportunity unveil as I have several smaller amount in treasury bills. On my source of income, so far I have only two being salary and Tbills interest but hoping to do bond from next year. I have decided to leave out my properties as there are not profitable and can only cater for few drinks. On why am not into biz, simply I can't monitor them as I wish. 2019 April I invested 1.1m on a young man to acquire mini bus and return my money in 18months. Yesterday I invited him over for account balancing and realized he just paid 490k in over a year. That can't be my biz, not ready and don't have time for fights. My target for now is to have a working capital of 1b naira then retire from my salary work. From my calculations this will be achieved by my year 55. No matter the value of naira then I bet shouldn't be 50% less from today's value. All I need is sustainability, change car every 3 years, maintain my house, pay domestic staff, have enough for health care when needs arise and cater for the needy in my little way. 1b at 10% is about 8m monthly and if value is half then am looking at 4m of today's value. With 4m monthly presently, I can live that live I so wished. I do not intend to go looking for more money as am busy planning my dead and really don't care what happens after am gone. how long do we think a 55yrs old man will survive. Those remaining years are for groove and not hustle. I can't be dangote that is building refinery at his age. My activity stops at 55, I just want to breath and not own money that might become useless to me yet useful to generation unborn. I hustled mine from the scratch, they will inherit my 1b capital and that's all. As it stands today, if I loss my job, my investment is capable of paying me same salary am receiving as it stands. There is amount of money you get and it just keep going up without doing a thing. On the 4% Tbills "savings" plan, with huge capital, you wouldn't feel the low rate hence those guys with billions keep over subscribing. They wouldn't risk their billions on this naija economy. All they do is recycle the billions. So even at 1%, its still over subscribed. Wow! Experience, they say, is the best teacher I understand where you are coming from. And I wish I could adopt your philosophy. But what's the essence of living life without challenges? I feel it is somewhat boring. How about using a miniscule (let's say 3%) of your income to take risks? 1 Like |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Godbpraised: 3:46pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
Guys una well done una sabi when international flights resume for Nigeria. This wey E.U don block flights from Nigeria. |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by jobaye(m): 4:16pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
Barrytone: In response to quotes: my Tbills investment is solely savings to arrive at a certain targeted figure then I move them to bond and then repeat same process. Planning to commence bond investment Q1 of next year. I hardly have the 50m cap at hand when opportunity unveil as I have several smaller amount in treasury bills. On my source of income, so far I have only two being salary and Tbills interest but hoping to do bond from next year. I have decided to leave out my properties as there are not profitable and can only cater for few drinks. On why am not into biz, simply I can't monitor them as I wish. 2019 April I invested 1.1m on a young man to acquire mini bus and return my money in 18months. Yesterday I invited him over for account balancing and realized he just paid 490k in over a year. That can't be my biz, not ready and don't have time for fights. My target for now is to have a working capital of 1b naira then retire from my salary work. From my calculations this will be achieved by my year 55. No matter the value of naira then I bet shouldn't be 50% less from today's value. All I need is sustainability, change car every 3 years, maintain my house, pay domestic staff, have enough for health care when needs arise and cater for the needy in my little way. 1b at 10% is about 8m monthly and if value is half then am looking at 4m of today's value. With 4m monthly presently, I can live that live I so wished. I do not intend to go looking for more money as am busy planning my dead and really don't care what happens after am gone. how long do we think a 55yrs old man will survive. Those remaining years are for groove and not hustle. I can't be dangote that is building refinery at his age. My activity stops at 55, I just want to breath and not own money that might become useless to me yet useful to generation unborn. I hustled mine from the scratch, they will inherit my 1b capital and that's all. As it stands today, if I loss my job, my investment is capable of paying me same salary am receiving as it stands. There is amount of money you get and it just keep going up without doing a thing. On the 4% Tbills "savings" plan, with huge capital, you wouldn't feel the low rate hence those guys with billions keep over subscribing. They wouldn't risk their billions on this naija economy. All they do is recycle the billions. So even at 1%, its still over subscribed. I like this philosophy and I think it is something Similar that I will like to adopt as my goal in life. |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by olujaidi: 4:25pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
I gather GT is rationing dollar withdrawals. Limiting it to $1.5k. can someone please confirm? |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 4:51pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
niyoni:
Not a bad one Sir. However, you may want to put up a trans-generational wealth plan in place, even if indirectly through trusts.
1 billion naira is huge but it can easily be mis-managed by an inheriting generation that didn't work for it, and with no knowledge to grow or at least preserve it. You wouldn't want to have a life of comfort and have generations after u living a lesser life. My concern is my life, when am gone its over. I raised it on my own and expect my kids to do better because am giving them a better foundation. I owe my kids a good education to PhD in the best schools in the world. Their success is in their hands. My 1b will be left with instruction that will only enable them access the interest and not the capital. My grand children can't even touch it. Generally, I don't care what happens after am dead. My plan is to live a good second half of my life as growing up was hectic. Can't loss it on both halves of life. 23 Likes |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 4:54pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
topsquino:
Wow!
Experience, they say, is the best teacher
I understand where you are coming from.
And I wish I could adopt your philosophy.
But what's the essence of living life without challenges?
I have so many 3% but ugly investment. I keep saying them here. I started Tbills in 2017 before then I was an expert in properties. Buying and selling is a no no as I don't have time for supervision.
I feel it is somewhat boring.
How about using a miniscule (let's say 3%) of your income to take risks?
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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 4:55pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
topsquino:
Wow!
Experience, they say, is the best teacher
I understand where you are coming from.
And I wish I could adopt your philosophy.
But what's the essence of living life without challenges?
I have so many 3% but ugly investment. I keep saying them here. I started Tbills in 2017 before then I was an expert in properties. Buying and selling is a no no as I don't have time for supervision.
I feel it is somewhat boring.
How about using a miniscule (let's say 3%) of your income to take risks?
I have so many 3% but ugly investment. I keep saying them here. I started Tbills in 2017 before then I was an expert in properties. Buying and selling is a no no as I don't have time for supervision. |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by pluto09(m): 4:55pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
olujaidi: I gather GT is rationing dollars now to $1.5k. can someone please confirm? I don't understand your question. If you are talking about limit, I think it is now $500 per month. Same with zenith and fbn. |
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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by MrTour: 5:04pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
Do you mean cash withdrawals at the bank? pluto09:
I don't understand your question. If you are talking about limit, I think it is now $500 per month. Same with zenith and fbn. |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by niyoni: 5:08pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
Barrytone:
My concern is my life, when am gone its over. I raised it on my own and expect my kids to do better because am giving them a better foundation. I owe my kids a good education to PhD in the best schools in the world. Their success is in their hands. My 1b will be left with instruction that will only enable them access the interest and not the capital. My grand children can't even touch it. Generally, I don't care what happens after am dead. My plan is to live a good second half of my life as growing up was hectic. Can't loss it on both halves of life. Okay Sir. Best wishes. |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Donbrig: 5:44pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
Godbpraised: Guys una well done una sabi when international flights resume for Nigeria. This wey E.U don block flights from Nigeria. I think international flights to Nigeria should resume partially around August/September, those of you abroad should not bother to visit Nigeria for now if you don't have anything critically important to do. Countries are only opening their borders to save world economy from total collapse and not to save lives. The war against convid-19 is still on, stay where you are for now and wait till Q1 2021. |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by olujaidi: 6:01pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
Latest NTB results |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 6:18pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
olujaidi: Latest NTB results N320 billion chasing N88 billion, rates will continue to crash |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 6:21pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
Barrytone: In response to quotes: my Tbills investment is solely savings to arrive at a certain targeted figure then I move them to bond and then repeat same process. Planning to commence bond investment Q1 of next year. I hardly have the 50m cap at hand when opportunity unveil as I have several smaller amount in treasury bills. On my source of income, so far I have only two being salary and Tbills interest but hoping to do bond from next year. I have decided to leave out my properties as there are not profitable and can only cater for few drinks. On why am not into biz, simply I can't monitor them as I wish. 2019 April I invested 1.1m on a young man to acquire mini bus and return my money in 18months. Yesterday I invited him over for account balancing and realized he just paid 490k in over a year. That can't be my biz, not ready and don't have time for fights. My target for now is to have a working capital of 1b naira then retire from my salary work. From my calculations this will be achieved by my year 55. No matter the value of naira then I bet shouldn't be 50% less from today's value. All I need is sustainability, change car every 3 years, maintain my house, pay domestic staff, have enough for health care when needs arise and cater for the needy in my little way. 1b at 10% is about 8m monthly and if value is half then am looking at 4m of today's value. With 4m monthly presently, I can live that live I so wished. I do not intend to go looking for more money as am busy planning my dead and really don't care what happens after am gone. how long do we think a 55yrs old man will survive. Those remaining years are for groove and not hustle. I can't be dangote that is building refinery at his age. My activity stops at 55, I just want to breath and not own money that might become useless to me yet useful to generation unborn. I hustled mine from the scratch, they will inherit my 1b capital and that's all. As it stands today, if I loss my job, my investment is capable of paying me same salary am receiving as it stands. There is amount of money you get and it just keep going up without doing a thing. On the 4% Tbills "savings" plan, with huge capital, you wouldn't feel the low rate hence those guys with billions keep over subscribing. They wouldn't risk their billions on this naija economy. All they do is recycle the billions. So even at 1%, its still over subscribed. With N10 million and below, you can buy bonds on the secondary market |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by talk2tonie: 6:39pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
emmanuelewumi:
With N10 million and below, you can buy bonds on the secondary market Where can I get bond with this amount?. FBNQUEST merchant bank had informed me earlier today that to open an account with them is 50m for secondary market bond as per new guidelines from CBN since it’s an investment bank. |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by DexterousOne(m): 6:52pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
OgogoroFreak: Mouth!
What kind of business would you do with the billions to yield billion Naira returns? Except you deal in luxury items Making billions of naira from the jump is a HERCULEAN CHALLENGE Well Except those who will gamble with it and hope they win |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by DexterousOne(m): 6:54pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
ojesymsym: Save 25%? Some people go fight you here o
25% is very doable All you need is a realignment of your finances To determine what is important and what is not. But it will be a bit more challenging for a family man with kids |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 6:54pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
talk2tonie:
Where can I get bond with this amount?. FBNQUEST merchant bank had informed me earlier today that to open an account with them is 50m for secondary market bond as per new guidelines from CBN since it’s an investment bank. Stanbic IBTC bank, |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by pluto09(m): 6:54pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
MrTour: Do you mean cash withdrawals at the bank?
The amount you can spend with your card. |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 6:58pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
DexterousOne:
25% is very doable
All you need is a realignment of your finances
To determine what is important and what is not.
But it will be a bit more challenging for a family man with kids Marriage should be a merger between two friends and partners who are interested in the success of the other party and the union. If that is the case they will combine resources to make a success out of the symbiotic association 8 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by DexterousOne(m): 7:00pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
Barrytone: In response to quotes: my Tbills investment is solely savings to arrive at a certain targeted figure then I move them to bond and then repeat same process. Planning to commence bond investment Q1 of next year. I hardly have the 50m cap at hand when opportunity unveil as I have several smaller amount in treasury bills. On my source of income, so far I have only two being salary and Tbills interest but hoping to do bond from next year. I have decided to leave out my properties as there are not profitable and can only cater for few drinks. On why am not into biz, simply I can't monitor them as I wish. 2019 April I invested 1.1m on a young man to acquire mini bus and return my money in 18months. Yesterday I invited him over for account balancing and realized he just paid 490k in over a year. That can't be my biz, not ready and don't have time for fights. My target for now is to have a working capital of 1b naira then retire from my salary work. From my calculations this will be achieved by my year 55. No matter the value of naira then I bet shouldn't be 50% less from today's value. All I need is sustainability, change car every 3 years, maintain my house, pay domestic staff, have enough for health care when needs arise and cater for the needy in my little way. 1b at 10% is about 8m monthly and if value is half then am looking at 4m of today's value. With 4m monthly presently, I can live that live I so wished. I do not intend to go looking for more money as am busy planning my dead and really don't care what happens after am gone. how long do we think a 55yrs old man will survive. Those remaining years are for groove and not hustle. I can't be dangote that is building refinery at his age. My activity stops at 55, I just want to breath and not own money that might become useless to me yet useful to generation unborn. I hustled mine from the scratch, they will inherit my 1b capital and that's all. As it stands today, if I loss my job, my investment is capable of paying me same salary am receiving as it stands. There is amount of money you get and it just keep going up without doing a thing. On the 4% Tbills "savings" plan, with huge capital, you wouldn't feel the low rate hence those guys with billions keep over subscribing. They wouldn't risk their billions on this naija economy. All they do is recycle the billions. So even at 1%, its still over subscribed. Interesting read. However... I'd advice you find a way to at least invest a certain percentage of your assets into dividend paying stocks. That one is forever. You can have most of your asset allocation in fixed income securities But please please and please Even if na 5% of your asset allocation Put it into dividend paying stocks Ultimately its your choice to make But I just felt I should throw in that advice |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by DexterousOne(m): 7:02pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
emmanuelewumi:
Marriage should be a merger between two friends and partners who are interested in the success of the other party and the union.
If that is the case they will combine resources to make a success out of the symbiotic association Where I come from Your wife Is referred to as "Oriaku" So..... I'm reading what you posted with agreement on one side of my head And consternation at the other side (when I remember what Oriaku means) Hahahahahahaha |