SuperSixSeven:


Flight cost of an A-29 per hour is 800$.
Flight Cost of an F-16 per hour is 8000$.

From an economic perspective you can fly 10x missions for the same costs in an A-29 than compared to a F-16. In the long run this costs add up and matter. This cost savings even justify the use of PGMs to guarantee one hit one kill strikes. It is a wise decision to get the A-29s.

Flight and mission costings are highly generalist and do not take cognisance of local variables and permutations. As a consequence there are HUGE disparities between airforces and in particular the USAF.

What level of staffing support and infrastructure
is required to keep a fighter jet in the air by the USA and by the NAF ❓

For example a NCO can earn including other payments over time, mission specific, depending on speciality, can earn up too $75,000 a year. A mid level senior officer such as Squadron leader can earn up to $150k a year. Now factor all that into aggregate costs including fuel costs, number of man hours and personal deployed, engineering staff, and support, maintenance etc.

Now look at NAF aggregate costs how much is the pay of a NCO, and what is pay of a mid level senior officer such as Squadron leader in the NAF. Consider the level of support staff required to keep a fighter jet in the air in Nigeria.

Now articulate those variables into an aggregate cost per hour, for the USAF and you can see how their costs can rise too $8000 per hour. Now make a projection of our NAF variable costs,deployed personal and articulate those costs into an hourly aggregate for the NAF.

Now ask yourself do you think they will be the same ❓.

An appendicitis operation in Nigeria may not be more than naira 300k ( guess). But it will cost you about $55000 or more in the USA. That's to highlight the price differentials with the two different countries of Nigeria and the USA.

So you can make an informed projection that hourly running costs will be far less than what the over indulgent USAF costs are.

Your rational is perfunctory and not well thought out but very impulsive.

You cannot ignore capital acquisition costs in the equation of cost, it is intrinsic to any cost appraisal.

The A29 is the most over priced military turboprop in the world, when you are paying $40 million ➕ for a turboprop. You can't be talking about running costs which are very spurious at best.

Then you have to consider alternatives and the issue of opportunity cost witt those alternatives. With that you can come to a more balanced appreciation of cost aa well as best value and most effective use of scarce resources.

We will get one or two A29 before the year runs out, hopefully, that's three years later and the rest will not be delivered in completion until 2024. That's really absurd.

The costs of one A29 will get us 35+ Wing Loong II UAV.

Below a YouTube video of a Turkish UAV which is around not as good as the Wing Loong II. To highlight the efficacy for those who have forgotten. Imagine the impact those UAV's will have not in 3,4, 5 years, but in the HERE and NOW giving you 24/7/365 coverage over the area or contention in the NE and even with face recognition.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzB5Vip5Wpc

bidexiii:


Even Russian Su’s are way expensive to maintain, most of them are twin engine.

I would advise you to do some research about the Russian SU25 and then you will change that perfunctory assumption.

You can indeed consider acquisition costs as well as running costs.

The SU25 is out of production since the 1990s, you would not buy a aircraft that might run out spare parts in the next decade.

komekn:

Metrics to Compare Aircraft Operating and Support Costs in the US Department of Defense:


Operating material
Support services
Transportation
Maintenance
Consumable materials and repair parts
Depot-level reparables
Intermediate maintenance
Depot maintenance
System-specific training
Support equipment replacement and repair
Sustaining/systems engineering
Program management
Information systems
Data and technical publications
Simulator operations and repair
Other sustaining support
Continuing System Improvements
Hardware modifications
Software maintenance
Indirect Support
Installation support
Personnel support (Canteen, Accommodation)
General training and education


--> As you can see the staff costs are not included in this calculation.

SuperSixSeven:

Metrics to Compare Aircraft Operating and Support Costs in the US Department of Defense:


Operating material
Support services
Transportation
Maintenance
Consumable materials and repair parts
Depot-level reparables
Intermediate maintenance
Depot maintenance
System-specific training
Support equipment replacement and repair
Sustaining/systems engineering
Program management
Information systems
Data and technical publications
Simulator operations and repair
Other sustaining support
Continuing System Improvements
Hardware modifications
Software maintenance
Indirect Support
Installation support
Personnel support (Canteen, Accommodation)
General training and education


--> As you can see the staff costs are not included in this calculation.

Bless you! Komekn always pulling things out of his bloody armpit every single time!

Watch how he'd not reply to this takedown

komekn:


I would advise you to do some research about the Russian SU25 and then you will change that perfunctory assumption.

You can indeed consider acquisition costs as well as running costs.

No you do your more profound research!
The A29 has more advantage than the Su25 in many ways. And why would I go for an aircraft that his no more in production.

STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIPS: NAF STRENGTHENS R& EFFORTS, SIGNS NEW MOUs WITH KEY MDAs

In furtherance of its efforts to advance Research and Development (R&) for enhanced operational effectiveness, the Nigerian Air Force (NAF) today, 1 July 2020, signed additional Memoranda of Understanding (MoUs) with 3 Organizations, namely; the Accident Investigation Bureau (AIB), University of Benin (UNIBEN) and Digital Bridge Institute (DBI). The erstwhile MoUs with the aforementioned organisations, which recently expired, were renewed by the NAF in line with its focus on strategic partnerships with Ministries, Departments and Agencies (MDAs) for enhanced R&. The signing of the MoUs, which took place at Headquarters NAF, Abuja, had in attendance, Representatives of the 3 organizations, including: the Chief Executive Officer (CEO), AIB, Engineer Akin Olateru; the Vice Chancellor, UNIBEN, Professor Lillian Salami; and the President/CEO DBI, Engineer Professor Mohammed Ajiya. With today’s signing, the NAF now has 32 active MoUs with key MDAs in Nigeria.

Speaking during the signing ceremony, the Chief of the Air Staff (CAS), Air Marshal Sadique Abubakar, who was represented by the Chief of Policy and Plans, Air Vice Marshal (AVM) Oladayo Amao, stated that the NAF as a highly technical Service relies on technology as the bedrock for success in its operations. He noted that, in line with the focus of the Federal Government in promoting indigenous technology, the NAF has, more than ever before, been looking inwards to gradually wean itself from over-dependence on foreign technology. He disclosed that this strategic policy posture had resulted in greater innovation and resourcefulness within the Service.

Air Marshal Abubakar stated further that collaboration with local organizations, by way of MoUs, remained critical, as it continues to serve as a pedestal to leapfrog existing capabilities as well as a repertoire of capacity that could be harnessed at short notice. He added that the MoUs would provide a platform to cross-fertilize ideas for greater innovation, ultimately leading to the achievement of meaningful solutions to the technological challenges of the Service and indeed the Nation, in a cost-effective manner. The collaborative efforts of the NAF, he said, had produced auto-pilot cassettes for the Mi-35 Helicopter, emergency ventilator systems for COVID-19 patients as well aa hydraulic diaphragms for the Mi-35 helicopter and L-39ZA trainer aircraft. Other results of collaborative efforts of the NAF highlighted include the production of Alpha Jet anti-skid break system test bench and batteries for the Mi series helicopters. He disclosed that the specific areas of the NAF’s collaboration with the AIB, UNIBEN and DBI include aircraft accident investigation, aerospace technology, energy, software development and robotics.

Speaking on behalf of the MoU Partners, the UNIBEN Vice Chancellor, Professor Lilian Salami, said they were delighted to formally renew the R& collaboration with the NAF. She noted that the years of close interaction with the Service had shown that the NAF places high premium on professionalism through the acquisition of the appropriate education and skills. She observed that this was critical to ensuring technological advancement in any field of endeavour. Professor Salami pledged that the MoU partners, who she said, were already part of the NAF Family, would work with renewed commitment to understand the new areas of technological challenges with a view to developing shared, cost-effective solutions.

While delivering his welcome remarks, the Chief of Standards and Evaluation, AVM Remigius Ekeh, disclosed that the NAF had made giant strides in the area of R&, especially in the last 5 years of the current NAF leadership. According to him, the CAS has inspired a lot of solutions to operational challenges in the NAF by investing in high quality training of personnel, approving innovative approaches to issues and encouraging out-of-the-box thinking, thereby achieving credible results whilst saving scarce budgetary resources.

High points of the occasion were the signing and presentation of the respective MoU documents.
Also present during the event were Branch Chiefs and Directors from NAF Headquarters as well as other senior military officers and officials from the 3 MoU partners.

IBIKUNLE DARAMOLA
Air Commodore
Director of Public Relations and Information
Nigerian Air Force
1 July 2020

komekn:


Flight and mission costings are highly generalist and do not take cognisance of local variables and permutations. As a consequence there are HUGE disparities between airforces and in particular the USAF.

What level of staffing support and infrastructure
is required to keep a fighter jet in the air by the USA and by the NAF ❓

For example a NCO can earn including other payments over time, mission specific, depending on speciality, can earn up too $75,000 a year. A mid level senior officer such as Squadron leader can earn up to $150k a year. Now factor all that into aggregate costs including fuel costs, number of man hours and personal deployed, engineering staff, and support, maintenance etc.

Now look at NAF aggregate costs how much is the pay of a NCO, and what is pay of a mid level senior officer such as Squadron leader in the NAF. Consider the level of support staff required to keep a fighter jet in the air in Nigeria.

Now articulate those variables into an aggregate cost per hour, for the USAF and you can see how their costs can rise too $8000 per hour. Now make a projection of our NAF variable costs,deployed personal and articulate those costs into an hourly aggregate for the NAF.

Now ask yourself do you think they will be the same ❓.

An appendicitis operation in Nigeria may not be more than naira 300k ( guess). But it will cost you about $55000 or more in the USA. That's to highlight the price differentials with the two different countries of Nigeria and the USA.

So you can make an informed projection that hourly running costs will be far less than what the over indulgent USAF costs are.

Your rational is perfunctory and not well thought out but very impulsive.

You cannot ignore capital acquisition costs in the equation of cost, it is intrinsic to any cost appraisal.

The A29 is the most over priced military turboprop in the world, when you are paying $40 million ➕ for a turboprop. You can't be talking about running costs which are very spurious at best.

Then you have to consider alternatives and the issue of opportunity cost witt those alternatives. With that you can come to a more balanced appreciation of cost aa well as best value and most effective use of scarce resources.

We will get one or two A29 before the year runs out, hopefully, that's three years later and the rest will not be delivered in completion until 2024. That's really absurd.

The costs of one A29 will get us 35+ Wing Loong II UAV.

Below a YouTube video of a Turkish UAV which is around not as good as the Wing Loong II. To highlight the efficacy for those who have forgotten. Imagine the impact those UAV's will have not in 3,4, 5 years, but in the HERE and NOW giving you 24/7/365 coverage over the area or contention in the NE and even with face recognition.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzB5Vip5Wpc

Good arguments, sound reasoning all destroyed by this bit about Wing Loong. Wing Loongs don't replace the flexibility and accuracy of the A29.

The flight cost differentials between A29 and F16s are template costs. Those differentials carry over whether you are paying your ground crews $1m or $50.0. The differentials are coming from fuel, pre-flight maintenance, compulsory inspections regime in-between flights and OEM support. Some people would also depreciate the capital cost over the life of the aircraft and add those costs on it.

This is where it gets interesting : &$85m F16 to shoot precision missiles on 10 Boko Haram in a technical. The technical is N10m, the guns are stolen or captured, say N5m, the worth of the 10 Boko Haram is say minus $5000.00.
I would take the A29 any day. The systems on it at least in ground attack are the same as F16 Block 50. I can use the same aircraft for border patrol, pipeline inspections, SAR, geo spatial surveys, crime fighting, bandits tracking et. c.
The F16 is a rubbish budget buster. They won't even allow you to use the offensive systems so what's the point?.
Nigeria is also buying JF17s to do the regional security, power projection and strategic stuff. We are buying right.

komekn:


Flight and mission costings are highly generalist and do not take cognisance of local variables and permutations. As a consequence there are HUGE disparities between airforces and in particular the USAF.

What level of staffing support and infrastructure
is required to keep a fighter jet in the air by the USA and by the NAF ❓

For example a NCO can earn including other payments over time, mission specific, depending on speciality, can earn up too $75,000 a year. A mid level senior officer such as Squadron leader can earn up to $150k a year. Now factor all that into aggregate costs including fuel costs, number of man hours and personal deployed, engineering staff, and support, maintenance etc.

Now look at NAF aggregate costs how much is the pay of a NCO, and what is pay of a mid level senior officer such as Squadron leader in the NAF. Consider the level of support staff required to keep a fighter jet in the air in Nigeria.

Now articulate those variables into an aggregate cost per hour, for the USAF and you can see how their costs can rise too $8000 per hour. Now make a projection of our NAF variable costs,deployed personal and articulate those costs into an hourly aggregate for the NAF.

Now ask yourself do you think they will be the same ❓.

An appendicitis operation in Nigeria may not be more than naira 300k ( guess). But it will cost you about $55000 or more in the USA. That's to highlight the price differentials with the two different countries of Nigeria and the USA.

So you can make an informed projection that hourly running costs will be far less than what the over indulgent USAF costs are.

Your rational is perfunctory and not well thought out but very impulsive.

You cannot ignore capital acquisition costs in the equation of cost, it is intrinsic to any cost appraisal.

The A29 is the most over priced military turboprop in the world, when you are paying $40 million ➕ for a turboprop. You can't be talking about running costs which are very spurious at best.

Then you have to consider alternatives and the issue of opportunity cost witt those alternatives. With that you can come to a more balanced appreciation of cost aa well as best value and most effective use of scarce resources.

We will get one or two A29 before the year runs out, hopefully, that's three years later and the rest will not be delivered in completion until 2024. That's really absurd.

The costs of one A29 will get us 35+ Wing Loong II UAV.

Below a YouTube video of a Turkish UAV which is around not as good as the Wing Loong II. To highlight the efficacy for those who have forgotten. Imagine the impact those UAV's will have not in 3,4, 5 years, but in the HERE and NOW giving you 24/7/365 coverage over the area or contention in the NE and even with face recognition.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzB5Vip5Wpc
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Don't be ironical, u will write 100s of words comparing Nigeria to the countries that have funds...
Seriously, comparing turkey to Nigeria military funding is unrealistic, the political culture of the people, their goal as a countr to control others icant be compared to Nigeria
As far as Nigeria is concerned now we need milti purpose platform that we can use even after the insugerncy,
DRONES might be chaeper, to acquire but cost more to operate than other platforms, plus the attrition rate of drones is fast, 5yrsz then we buy new ones?

SuperSixSeven:
The SU25 is out of production since the 1990s, you would not buy a aircraft that might run out spare parts in the next decade.

Yes, and looking at NAF started, they ain't purchasing just for the insugerncy, but a future and durable platform, just imagine an airfirce with only drones, how do u train actual pilots, although their are jet trainers, but with what platform will they horn thier flying skills, certainly not drones

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Jimi24:


Good arguments, sound reasoning all destroyed by this bit about Wing Loong. Wing Loongs don't replace the flexibility and accuracy of the A29.

The flight cost differentials between A29 and F16s are template costs. Those differentials carry over whether you are paying your ground crews $1m or $50.0. The differentials are coming from fuel, pre-flight maintenance, compulsory inspections regime in-between flights and OEM support. Some people would also depreciate the capital cost over the life of the aircraft and add those costs on it.

This is where it gets interesting : &$85m F16 to shoot precision missiles on 10 Boko Haram in a technical. The technical is N10m, the guns are stolen or captured, say N5m, the worth of the 10 Boko Haram is say minus $5000.00.
I would take the A29 any day. The systems on it at least in ground attack are the same as F16 Block 50. I can use the same aircraft for border patrol, pipeline inspections, SAR, geo spatial surveys, crime fighting, bandits tracking et. c.
The F16 is a rubbish budget buster. They won't even allow you to use the offensive systems so what's the point?.
Nigeria is also buying JF17s to do the regional security, power projection and strategic stuff. We are buying right.

why do countries actually buy American weapons with the knowledge that they will be restricted from some aspects of their weapons..
why waste money on F 16 that the US still control

marvin906:




why do countries actually buy American weapons with the knowledge that they will be restricted from some aspects of their weapons..
why waste money on F 16 that the US still control

actually an export f16 with reduced capability is still better. There's one thing about US jets that tops, and that's avionics and weapons systems. They are the most secure, reliable and effective. Do you know that the likelihood of a jf17 to be hacked is very high. It was programmed using c++ to reduced costs as against ADA. Worse still, young pakistani programmers/hackers were the ones who worked on it. US military does not control the jets they sell. Knowing the capability of their systems, they sell only to allies who can afford. Then if you are sanctioned, they simply prevent the companies that made the jets from offering maintenance,so your machine rusts.

Jimi24:


Good arguments, sound reasoning all destroyed by this bit about Wing Loong. Wing Loongs don't replace the flexibility and accuracy of the A29.

The flight cost differentials between A29 and F16s are template costs. Those differentials carry over whether you are paying your ground crews $1m or $50.0. The differentials are coming from fuel, pre-flight maintenance, compulsory inspections regime in-between flights and OEM support. Some people would also depreciate the capital cost over the life of the aircraft and add those costs on it.

This is where it gets interesting : &$85m F16 to shoot precision missiles on 10 Boko Haram in a technical. The technical is N10m, the guns are stolen or captured, say N5m, the worth of the 10 Boko Haram is say minus $5000.00.
I would take the A29 any day. The systems on it at least in ground attack are the same as F16 Block 50. I can use the same aircraft for border patrol, pipeline inspections, SAR, geo spatial surveys, crime fighting, bandits tracking et. c.
The F16 is a rubbish budget buster. They won't even allow you to use the offensive systems so what's the point?.
Nigeria is also buying JF17s to do the regional security, power projection and strategic stuff. We are buying right.

don't call the f16 rubbish. I can give you ten reasons the f16 will wipe out the jf17 any day. Also, the f16 is also sold with export offensive systems, just don't jet on Uncle Sam's wrong side and you'll be merry with your jet, to some that's the hard part and that's the reason why the JF17s were born.

SuperSixSeven:
The SU25 is out of production since the 1990s, you would not buy a aircraft that might run out spare parts in the next decade.

That's why you have a duplicity of companies across Europe, South Africa and Isreal offering upgrades and retrofitting of different component.

Prudent companies buy them used for very little $2 million or less them refurbish and retrofit themselves. Increasing the life cycle of the airframe all at very competitive cost for best value and most effective use of scarce resources.

Look at how many medium to heavy lift helicopters Angola has and see thier strategic procurement approach.

Jimi24:


Good arguments, sound reasoning all destroyed by this bit about Wing Loong. Wing Loongs don't replace the flexibility and accuracy of the A29.

The flight cost differentials between A29 and F16s are template costs. Those differentials carry over whether you are paying your ground crews $1m or $50.0. The differentials are coming from fuel, pre-flight maintenance, compulsory inspections regime in-between flights and OEM support. Some people would also depreciate the capital cost over the life of the aircraft and add those costs on it.

This is where it gets interesting : &$85m F16 to shoot precision missiles on 10 Boko Haram in a technical. The technical is N10m, the guns are stolen or captured, say N5m, the worth of the 10 Boko Haram is say minus $5000.00.
I would take the A29 any day. The systems on it at least in ground attack are the same as F16 Block 50. I can use the same aircraft for border patrol, pipeline inspections, SAR, geo spatial surveys, crime fighting, bandits tracking et. c.
The F16 is a rubbish budget buster. They won't even allow you to use the offensive systems so what's the point?.
Nigeria is also buying JF17s to do the regional security, power projection and strategic stuff. We are buying right.

You have gone off on a delusional tangent.

You brought into the discourse the comparison of flight costs between the F16 and A29, two completely different aircraft. Nonetheless, l indulged you by country dynamics comparison to show how flawed it was.

But the entire direction is irrelevant nobody is asking the NAF to buy F16s, it is a complete digression.

The discourse centers on " best value and most effective use of resources for the best delivery outcome" That's the unit of measurement and only pertinent consideration.

REALITY - We may or may not get 2/3 A29 Tucano by the end of the Year. Aircraft that were bought in 2018. And the contract delivery projected completion 2024.

Procuring the Wing Loong II UAV could see 50 in theatres in 6 months and 15 almost immediately.

The A29 will give you 4 hours situational coverage at most possibly less. The UAV gives you 32 hours + which is more flexible ❓

The A29 is not more accurate, how did you come to that conclusion. A Hydra Rockets is not more accurate than an ATGM.

Often said the patient dog gets the biggest bone, A UAV uses far less fuel than a turboprop and can wait for 30 hours in observation waiting to strike.

UAV can do face recognition that is the level of detail. In addition they are not noisy as the turboprop A29 therefore better stealth.

Finally, best value 80+ Wing Loong II or two A29 Tucano's which do you think will be much more effective in the NE and have the greatest over all impact. Particularly in the HERE and NOW.

We don't even have one A29 in theatre yet we are still waiting after three years of signing the contract.

Finally, nobody here has been able to contend with my view that the A29 IS TOTALLY OVERPRICED and that there are far better and cheaper alternatives.

Someone suggested that the life cycle of the UAV is only 5 years that's simply UNTRUE. What we don't know is how fast the technology is moving and how far it can develop. UAV are now being equipped with AAM's.

Real lack of strategic geo political thinking the Sub Sahara is becoming a battle zone of conflicting interests. And the NAF and NA have no capacity to project influence beyond our borders.

We have no fighter aircraft that can ward of threats from out contending neighbours in Egypt, Libya, Sudan and Algeria. That's a big mistake.

komekn:


That's why you have a duplicity of companies across Europe, South Africa and Isreal offering upgrades and retrofitting of different component.

Prudent companies buy them used for very little $2 million or less them refurbish and retrofit themselves. Increasing the life cycle of the airframe all at very competitive cost for best value and most effective use of scarce resources.

Look at how many medium to heavy lift helicopters Angola has and see thier strategic procurement approach.

Let me ask you, what type of upgrades do you intend we carry on the Su25 if we are to buy them ?
And at what cost, instead of going for new hardwares.

Faithful007:
don't call the f16 rubbish. I can give you ten reasons the f16 will wipe out the jf17 any day. Also, the f16 is also sold with export offensive systems, just don't jet on Uncle Sam's wrong side and you'll be merry with your jet, to some that's the hard part and that's the reason why the JF17s were born.

Open Question would anybody buy s vehicles from a country that has produced it's first vehicle in comparison to vehicle from Japan and or Germany.

Now move up a bit, will anybody feel comfortable flying in a passenger aircraft made by Pakistan.

Thus country is an absolute amateur in aircraft technology indeed in any kind of technology and high level manufacturing and has no long standing experiential competence. It takes decades to build up that level of knowledge and expertise.

Our experience with the F7 basically poor quality Mig 21 should have taught us a lesson. Buy no we deh find deal.

The Jf 17 is all copy cat engineering, the Mig 29 Engine ( very unreliable) avionics from left right and center, it just a mix of so many things put together.

And who are the only customers Myanmar and Nigeria if that doesn't cause alarm bells to ring, then something is wrong.

You know when Kia, Hyundai first came from Korea, we were all skeptical. They have improved over 30 years now they have a quality product that can become relied upon.

What does Pakistan have that we can call established exemplary to anchor thier aircraft technology upon Wind and a fresh air = NUTTIN.

Cheap article deh spoil belle.

bidexiii:


Let me ask you, what type of upgrades do you intend we carry on the Su25 if we are to buy them ?
And at what cost, instead of going for new hardwares.

There are two companies Elbit Systems in Isreal and another one on South Africa.

The SU 25 us you know is stupendously rugged it can fly on petrol there. Can take off from poor runways and can take hits from 30 mm and survive.

With these things it all depends on how far you want to go. but an upgrade to enable precision weaponry capability and better avionics will cost less than a $1 million.

Ita far far cheaper if we buy the components ourselves and get our Engineers to do it. I went to believe we the capacity.

Belarus had a lot of them in storage looking for buyers. They are a lot across the Eastern block gathering dust. Per unit $2 million just depends on how much bribe you can give. These countries are quite corrupt too.

SuperSixSeven:

Metrics to Compare Aircraft Operating and Support Costs in the US Department of Defense:


Operating material
Support services
Transportation
Maintenance
Consumable materials and repair parts
Depot-level reparables
Intermediate maintenance
Depot maintenance
System-specific training
Support equipment replacement and repair
Sustaining/systems engineering
Program management
Information systems
Data and technical publications
Simulator operations and repair
Other sustaining support
Continuing System Improvements
Hardware modifications
Software maintenance
Indirect Support
Installation support
Personnel support (Canteen, Accommodation)
General training and education


--> As you can see the staff costs are not included in this calculation.

You should know l can easily substantiate my position, using appropriate metrics as well as the USAF AFTOC.

You could easily do a degree on this subject some reports on costing l have are 200 pages long. There are a number of different metrics used.

But l have made my point clear, which us simply that USAF costs and NAF costs will be dramatic different.

l am sorry, l don't see it as important to score points of, I know more than you or you know more than me.

komekn:


But l have made my point clear, which us simply that UASF costs and NAF costs will be dramatic different.

Taking the staff costs into consideration the flights costs/h should be probably lower, is it that what you want to say?

komekn:

l am sorry, l don't see it as important to score points of, I know more than you or you know more than me.

You will not score any points here of, i know more than you but technically i cannot proof.

'Amir' baba kaka sacked as ISWAP leader

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lebuhsi:
'Amir' baba kaka sacked as ISWAP leader

https://eonsintelligence.com/details/david-otto-col-13882973037/mutiny-boko-haram-overthrows-new-leader-1520348522

The NA needs to capture him alive
if not possible arrange a meeting with his maker.

lebuhsi:
'Amir' baba kaka sacked as ISWAP leader

https://eonsintelligence.com/details/david-otto-col-13882973037/mutiny-boko-haram-overthrows-new-leader-1520348522

Be like ISWAP were really hit by these Chadians "Operation Boma Wrath"

GeneralFarouq:

Yes, and looking at NAF started, they ain't purchasing just for the insugerncy, but a future and durable platform, just imagine an airfirce with only drones, how do u train actual pilots, although their are jet trainers, but with what platform will they horn thier flying skills, certainly not drones

Trainee pilots start off with turboprop generally as well as flight simulators.

How long does it take to get a civilian pilot licence for a single engined turboprop aircraft ❓

Finally nobody is saying abandon aircraft and use UAV alone.

However, there is desperate need for s fifth generation strike aircraft. We have very curious neighbours who may not wish us well.

I have no proof, but l am of the opinion that Boko has some sponsors who may not necessarily be individuals but nation states that do not wish us well.

bidexiii:
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https://eonsintelligence.com/details/1707104124/exclusive-isis-in-africa-deploys-child-soldiers-in-desperate-revenge-for-their-slain-3-star-general-by-the-nigerian-army-part-2-858533896

Child soldiers are very deadly. They see warfare or a shootout as a video game. They don't care whether they die or not and are very eager to shoot at anything. If a shooter hides and seek cover, a child soldier wouldn't, he'll rather come out openly to exchange fire.

The dismissal of Amir Baba-Kaka was sealed after troops of the Nigerian Army coordinating with the Nigerian Air Force mounted one of the deadliest offensives against Boko Haram ISWAP strongholds in Tumbu Jini/Gini. More than 1200 jihadist including unit commanders who had gathered in Tumbun Jini were killed.

When was this?

SamuelAnyawu:


Be like ISWAP were really hit by these Chadians "Operation Boma Wrath"

u are always quick to praise the wrong pple, as far as BH is concerned we did that damage
Edit, I MNJTF was involved so why make mention of just the chadiansz it highly misleading

GeneralFarouq:
u are always quick to praise the wrong pple, as far as BH is concerned we did that damage

Praise wrong People ke? We know how it works down here bro.

SamuelAnyawu:


Praise wrong People ke? We know how it works down here bro.

MNJTf was involved , yes or no sir.

GeneralFarouq:

MNJTf was involved , yes or no sir.

Oga abeg leave matter we know what rolls down here.

GeneralFarouq:
u are always quick to praise the wrong pple, as far as BH is concerned we did that damage
Edit, I MNJTF was involved so why make mention of just the chadiansz it highly misleading

While we praise other countries forces let remembers ours hardworking and sacrifice
If a Nigerian soldier who took part in this operation saw u commending only the chadiansz, he will feel sad...

"The dismissal of Amir Baba-Kaka was sealed after troops of the Nigerian Army coordinating with the Nigerian Air Force mounted one of the deadliest offensives against Boko Haram ISWAP strongholds in Tumbu Jini/Gini. More than 1200 jihadist including unit commanders who had gathered in Tumbun Jini were killed".
The advise I always give to my military friends is to avoid the social media