solite3:


where is it written that people should mention names of angels in prayer?
celestial church is heavily into occultism

Sorry Sir, they're also a member of the Trinitarian family!

Of course they always start their prayers by saying.

Jehofa
Jesu Kristi
Mikeli Mimo

To this group the same person manifested in this three forms, they believe the Almighty God is Jehovah, the son is Jesus and Michael is the holy spirit!
That's their own perception of TRINITY Sir!

Rozz:
wao,you are very right,so you are way above 25,its like I'm in the midst of too many elders here. God bless you and your family sir

lols! Come on, "sir" is not necessary please, and don't make me feel old,[edited] and I am not married please
But thank you!

Myer:

Are the Angels of God or of the devil?
Where is it written that people should mention names of Holy Mary or Saints or Pastors in prayer?
Because by your inference then Catholic church and most Pentecostals are definitely not of Jesus Christ.
Like I mentioned, there are occultists in every denomination, likewise there are genuine ones.
The search for power has led people to the occult ones.

Only JWs pray without attaching any other name, we pray to Jehovah (the Almighty God) through the name of our Master Lord and King Jesus Christ!

fairheart:


lols! Come on, "sir" is not necessary please, and don't make me feel old. Started my 34th year last April, and I am not married please
But thank you!

lol it was the way you made mention of 25.Ok do and marry that your fiancee,dont delay her further lol

Rozz:
lol it was the way you made mention of 25.Ok do and marry that your fiancee,dont delay her further lol

I understand you. There's no fiancee or girlfriend yet, which is kinda weird for a man of my age, but I think it is understandable.
Some things come before the other for a man to find an ideal partner for himself. You know, horse before the cart?
As a man, when you have some important things laid out before you marry, marriage tend to be very sweet and become a source of blessings (and not trouble and chaos) to the couple. I only want to marry once and for a lifetime. I know this is idealistic, but I think it's worth it. My eyes and heart are open and I'm searching and taking my time.

fairheart:

I understand you. There's no fiancee or girlfriend yet, which is kinda weird for a man of my age, but I think it is understandable.
Some things come before the other for a man to find an ideal partner for himself. You know, horse before the cart?
As a man, when you have some important things laid out before you marry, marriage tend to be very sweet and become a source of blessings (and not trouble and chaos) to the couple. I only want to marry once and for a lifetime. I know this is idealistic, but I think it's worth it. My eyes and heart are open and I'm searching and taking my time.

Let me pretend to believe you,i wish you good luck in your search

Rozz:
Let me pretend to believe you,i wish you good luck in your search

You should believe me, because there's no point lying about it. Some guys are the best of their kind, though not so common

I'm sure by now you have noticed the consistency of JWs in our beliefs, though critics may come against us in thousands.
By the end of the day you'll discover that there is nothing they've got other than hatred for a united family of peace loving worshipers!
Note how Myer has stylishly turned them against themselves now, Celestial Church of Christ (CCC) are also Trinitarians but because of differences in doctrines
deadi bodi don get accident.

Rozz:
Let me pretend to believe you,i wish you good luck in your search

Janosky:


Why you Sabi LIE?
But JWs obey Matthew 4:10, Deuteronomy 6:13 and Matthew 6:9 more than you.

You no dey fall down before your village Elders?
Are you WORSHIPPING them?

@ Matthew 4:10 Jesus says whoever worships Jesus are IDOL WORSHIPPERS
The words of Jesus Christ @Revelations 3:12 and John 20:17 no dey your Bible again.
. no wahala

You sef, I know no which one you dey.

I said give me the features of the ONLY TRUE GOD that you know from the Bible.

Till now I have not received any.

You said if person fall before his village elders, it doesn't mean he's worshipping the village elders, right?

QUESTIONS:

Why then do you call angels and contemporary believers who are falling before Jesus as idol worshippers?

2. Are you saying nobody (trinitarian) is worshipping Jesus?

They're paying homage?

In a clear terms, trinitarians are paying homage to Jesus not that they are worshipping Jesus.

Is that what you are saying?

3. Who/what is the idol that the worshipers
are worshipping?

Below is what I learned from Matthew 4:10 and John 12:26:

JESUS SAID HIMSELF IS THE TRUE GOD:

*. Matthew 4:10 says
"KJV:Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, AND HIM ONLY SHALT THOU SERVE.

*. John 12:26 "KJV:If any MAN SERVE ME, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any MAN SERVE ME, him will my Father honour.


NOTE, He said ONLY the Lord your God you will serve,

He then said IF any man SERVE Him the Father will honour such a person.

He didn't say 'God will honour him' in this verse but 'Father will honour him'.

Because He had assumed His office as God in that verse.

He said ONLY God you have to serve, and said afterward SERVE ME.

In other words, He is saying I AM THE LORD THY GOD only whom you shall serve.

I have shown you how the people were only saying 'it is the voice of God'

and the man to whom they said it was killed by angel.

What about the king of Babylon?

He was at a point referred to as king of Kings.

He spent some years in the bush for giving himself the glory due God.

God said and meant it that He won't give His glory to another.

But you and your organization want to force us to believe that Jesus is another.

Acts 12:22 "KJV:And the people gave a shout, saying, It IS THE VOICE OF A GOD, and not of a man.
23
KJV:And immediately the ANGEL OF THE LORD SMOTE HIM, BECAUSE HE GAVE NOT GOD THE GLORY: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.


Janosky, the word translated a god in acts 12:22 is the same with the one in John 1:1.

Whether human beings translated it 'a god' or 'God' i.e separating it with small letter g and big letter G.

Heaven knows it means the true God!

GOD CAN NEVER GIVE HIS GLORY TO ANOTHER!

JESUS IS NOT ANOTHER!!

*. ISAIAH 47:11 "
KJV:For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I WILL NOT GIVE MY GLORY UNTO ANOTHER.

*. Acts 12: 23 "
KJV:And immediately THE ANGEL OF THE LORD SMOTE HIM, BECAUSE HE GAVE NOT GOD THE GLORY: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.

That which angels are doing, Thomas did, Stephen did, Paul and Peter did; that is what I'm doing.


AM I WORSHIPPING JESUS OR I'M PAYING HOMAGE TO JESUS?

Maximus69:


You just like arguing like a kid!

Michael was never "the son of man" until his birth here on earth. So saying the son of man will remind Stephen's murderous audience the prophet who often refer to himself as "the son of man" so he got that title after coming to the earth as Isaiah foresaw regarding him! Isaiah 9:6

complete trash

Myer:


Are the Angels of God or of the devil?

Where is it written that people should mention names of Holy Mary or Saints or Pastors in prayer?

Because by your inference then Catholic church and most Pentecostals are definitely not of Jesus Christ.

Like I mentioned, there are occultists in every denomination, likewise there are genuine ones.

The search for power has led people to the occult ones.

I not here to defend denominations, Christ didn't create any denomination.
There is only one true church, which are those who are washed and sanctified with hi.s blood.

Rozz:
When it comes to religious matters we have to use our heads s the unity of the father ,son and holy odhead. The docs considered to be one of central christian affirmations about God. It is rooted in the fact that God came to meet christians in a threefold figure as (1) There creator,Lord,Father and judge as revealed in the old testament (2)as the lord who incarnated in figure of Jesus Christ who lived among human beings (3)As the holy spirit whom they experienced as the helper or intercessor in the power of new life.But neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine apDid Jesus and his tradict the Shema in the Hebrew scriptures(Deur

the trinity doctrine is one of the most controversial tenets of christianity if not the most. In john 3:16 jesus makes reference 2 himself being his father's only begotten son. Also in one other occasion in the bible, he acknowledged the superiority of god the father over him. Is jesus wrong. Clearly, there is a mixup somewhere

Liposure:
the trinity doctrine is one of the most controversial tenets of christianity if not the most. In john 3:16 jesus makes reference 2 himself being his father's only begotten son. Also in one other occasion in the bible, he acknowledged the superiority of god the father over him. Clearly, there is a mixup somewhere

they will surely tag you a Jehovah witness for saying this

Finally! Another one of those inconclusive arguments! The trinitarians being in their BLINDNESS should keep worshiping their trinity god let's see how far it will take them! You can see all of them here claiming one church after the other. One claiming pentecostal, another claiming white garment, YET they cannot come to a conclusive definition of their trinity god. The true God Jehovah is not a God of disorder and confusion. So obviously NONE of these supposed churches are worshiping Jehovah. (1Corinthians 14:33)

The true worshipers of THE MOST HIGH GOD JEHOVAH being Jehovah's Witnesses (Isaiah 43:10) will keep worshiping Him in spirit and in truth (JOHN 4:24). Because they believe Jehovah is the Almighty God and Jesus Christ[Michael] is his son whom he sent to the earth to proclaim God's Kingdom as the hope for mankind (Daniel 2:44, Matthew 6:9,10) and to die so as to free us from the curse of sin and death (Matthew 20:28, Romans 5:19, 8:2)
Jehovah's Witnesses (individually) strive to maintain a close relationship with Jehovah God through prayer, through study of His Word and always obeying every single one of his commandments because they love him(1John 5:3) and they do their best to imitate Jesus Christ in all his doings while he was on earth. By doing so, they acknowledge Jesus as the Son of the true God Jehovah and are rightly disposed for everlasting life. (Matthew 16:16, John 3:36, 17:3, 20:31)
The work Jehovah's Witnesses have been commissioned to do is to preach to others about God's Kingdom(Matthew 24:14) because that's the only way through which one can have peace and enjoy the real life. Though people may mock us but that's not our business because we already know the world is going to hate us for adhering strictly to God's Word and not following traditions of men (John 15:19, 1Peter 4:4, 2Peter 3:3-4)
We will keep on carrying out this work nevertheless despite any challenges or hitches while we await the numerous blessings that Jehovah God has promised us as his people because he had also fulfilled all his promises in the past by bringing the house of Israel into the Promised Land (Joshua 21:45)
So we are very sure and positive that all the blessings he has promised us will come true in the nearest FUTURE!
(Psalm 37:10,11,29, 72:16, 104:35, Proverbs 2:22, Isaiah 25:8, 26:19, 33:24, 35:5-7, 65:17, 21:25, Matthew 5:5, 1Corinthians 15:26, 2Peter 3:13, Revelation 21:1-4)

Rozz:
they will surely tag you a Jehovah witness for saying this

lol. on top wetin

Who's that guy. LMAO. Definitely not me or even my type. He thinks I'm in an unnecessary argument? People post lies that can affect christians souls and you think it's unnecessary to reprove them. If you don't care about others, why care if we care? This is important for christians to be sure of what they believe before wolves devour them.
Thought Rozz was genuinely interested in knowing truth, which I'm still wondering if she really is. She claimed no one ever wins JWs. LMAO. Imagine that, Smh. How can their glaring ignorance be lauded by anyone apart from their own.
Well I'm sure it's clear enough now that they know jack not even 3 simple questions can any single one of them answer, even the one that claimed to be a teacher, Smh. Was thinking I'd have to ask my more difficult questions. But if they can't do arithmetic, why should I even give them calculus. LMAO.
Got me thinking and I decided to post truth out and frm page84, till now on 100 and JWs still running and hiding from 3 questions of a cute kid. Not a single one of them would even leave a fingerprint on them. LMAO.
They probably thinking there's Covid19 on those questions. LMAO. See them all on lockdown now. LMAO. I thought lockdown's off in Nigeria.
Rozz even feeling so sorry for them now esp Maximus.
Obviously JWs will lose every argument against truth hands down cause lies never win truth and I'm just one of millions that can prove it. Whichever of them's in doubt should first answer my 3 questions. LMAO. I've got bigger ones coming.
Well, fairheart, you said no one should try convince you out of your falsehood and I ain't even gonna try, lol. Hold on to your sweet delusion and miss out on worshipping Jesus the Almighty, along with the elders and all angels.
However don't come here forming "I don't wanna do this" and then go ahead to quoting the bible. That's hypocritical and probably a cop out for not being able to handle the 3 questions.
If you ain't ready to do a thorough on the bible, then keep your hands off it and stick to your "heavenly dreams". About those too, I'll take John's open vision anytime than some anonymous guy's dream that contradicts. Like who knows what you ate before you went to bed. LMAO.
There are so many revelations of the throne of God in the Bible and not one shows a "smaller" throne on God's geographical right cause there simply isn't. Only one sovereign throne in the center of creation- the throne of God and the Lamb, all other thrones bow to this throne, so why should we care about your sleep diaries?
Who knows, could have been a figment of your imagination but then again that's your problem not ours.
You JWs are so lucky, I've been engaged. I got so much in store for you that I'm considering doing a thread on your delusions. I just want you all to exhaust your lies while I trash every single one of them out here for good. Then I just might find the time to open that thread so you'll have nothing you can say there. If Rozz is really a JW mole, I'm still somewhat suspicious, she and all of 'em will be regretting this thread when I'm done with all their lies here and I'm ready to do a thread of mine. LMAO.

@Rozz, you're suspecting me. I'm suspecting you too. LMAO

MuttleyLaff:
You're doing a very too good work DrLiveLogic. Oinn, fantabulous you kept me busy reading through all this morning, lmao. Those easy simple, harmless, straightforward and direct questions will prove the nemesis for any that has the balls to answer them in the same format and numbered up order you asked

Also when you asked what's your church/denomination, just know you had touched a raw nerve and whoever that asked has become uncomfortable, so why they insist to know, just to create a distraction, lmao

LMAO. Ya think. And boy, do I love your signature. LMAO.

Meanwhile, let's do a quick one on whether Jesus is angel Michael cause I see that's what they're tryna pull off.
I'm just taking down JW bullets one by one until they're totally empty. Want them to bring it all out here to their undoing.

Joh 1:1-3 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made

So we know from above the history of Jesus from before creation, we see that He was with God and created all things in one Being with God (I'm coming to this creation part when I clear my table, lols.)
Do we find in any part of his history that he was made an angel. No.
He had never manifested anywhere at all but remained hidden in God's bosom. When you go down this history and get to verse 14, we find what happened next.

Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Does anyone see anything about the Word being an angel in his history here before he became flesh because I don't. All I see is He was with and in God and from the bosom of the Father, he came out as flesh through a virgin. He never manifested before then and surely he never manifested as an angel.
But we know Michael has always commanded the warring faction of angels and had always been visibly active.
And what does Paul say about if he manifested as an angel?

Heb 2:14 Because without doubt he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.

Yep. Paul didn't mince words about it, he never took the nature of angels but only the seed of Abraham. Just as John said, from being with God in the bosom of the Father straight to taking on flesh or becoming flesh. Why that? Because God wanted to put the world in subjection to man and not angels. That's why he never manifested as an angel but only as a man.

Heb 2:5-7 For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak. But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man, that thou visitest him? Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands:


Do you JWs even read their bible. The whole of Hebrews 1&2 was written to show that Jesus is not an angel but greater, the only-begotten from the Father's bosom for that matter. Only means only, duh!

How then can Jesus be angel Michael who has and will always be an angel and who was never called by that name when we know the Word only took on flesh of men and never angels.


Any JW that wants to quote me must first have the balls to answer my 3 questions. LMAO.
I see you JWs aren't tired of your shallow tricks of quoting verses of after Jesus became a Son and using those to separate him from Father. As if there was such distinction before he became flesh. Your barrels are so empty now, you're recycling used bullets that can't hit. LMAO.

I know this ain't WW2 but I'm gonna come soon with my heavy atomic bomb "little boy" for JW right after you're all out of bullets. LMAO
I see many of them already tryna find a cool way to run out tha thread. Live to fight another day fake soldiers. LMAO.




johnw47, achorladey, Rozz, Maximus69, TATIME, Janosky, Peacefullove, haywizzy007, solite3, KNOWMORE56, hoopernikao, DappaD, Muttleylaff

solite3:
complete trash

Your PERSONAL opinion Sir!

Liposure:
the trinity doctrine is one of the most controversial tenets of christianity if not the most. In john 3:16 jesus makes reference 2 himself being his father's only begotten son. Also in one other occasion in the bible, he acknowledged the superiority of god the father over him. Is jesus wrong. Clearly, there is a mixup somewhere

They will tag you a JW or AntiChrist for saying this!

Rozz:
they will surely tag you a Jehovah witness for saying this

He don enter one chance for Trinitarian hand!

Liposure:
lol. on top wetin

Say you no bow to their TRINITY Dogheads

DappaD:
Finally! Another one of those inconclusive arguments! The trinitarians being in their BLINDNESS should keep worshiping their trinity god let's see how far it will take them! You can see all of them here claiming one church after the other. One claiming pentecostal, another claiming white garment, YET they cannot come to a conclusive definition of their trinity god. The true God Jehovah is not a God of disorder and confusion. So obviously NONE of these supposed churches are worshiping Jehovah. (1Corinthians 14:33)

The true worshipers of THE MOST HIGH GOD JEHOVAH being Jehovah's Witnesses (Isaiah 43:10) will keep worshiping Him in spirit and in truth (JOHN 4:24). Because they believe Jehovah is the Almighty God and Jesus Christ[Michael] is his son whom he sent to the earth to proclaim God's Kingdom as the hope for mankind (Daniel 2:44, Matthew 6:9,10) and to die so as to free us from the curse of sin and death (Matthew 20:28, Romans 5:19, 8:2)
Jehovah's Witnesses (individually) strive to maintain a close relationship with Jehovah God through prayer, through study of His Word and always obeying every single one of his commandments because they love him(1John 5:3) and they do their best to imitate Jesus Christ in all his doings while he was on earth. By doing so, they acknowledge Jesus as the Son of the true God Jehovah and are rightly disposed for everlasting life. (Matthew 16:16, John 3:36, 17:3, 20:31)
The work Jehovah's Witnesses have been commissioned to do is to preach to others about God's Kingdom(Matthew 24:14) because that's the only way through which one can have peace and enjoy the real life. Though people may mock us but that's not our business because we already know the world is going to hate us for adhering strictly to God's Word and not following traditions of men (John 15:19, 1Peter 4:4, 2Peter 3:3-4)
We will keep on carrying out this work nevertheless despite any challenges or hitches while we await the numerous blessings that Jehovah God has promised us as his people because he had also fulfilled all his promises in the past by bringing the house of Israel into the Promised Land (Joshua 21:45)
So we are very sure and positive that all the blessings he has promised us will come true in the nearest FUTURE!
(Psalm 37:10,11,29, 72:16, 104:35, Proverbs 2:22, Isaiah 25:8, 26:19, 33:24, 35:5-7, 65:17, 21:25, Matthew 5:5, 1Corinthians 15:26, 2Peter 3:13, Revelation 21:1-4)

Sing Out Joyfully To JEHOVAH~61


Then forward, you Witnesses, ever strong of heart!

Rejoice that in God's work, you too may have a part!

Go tell far and wide that the Paradise is near

And that soon all it's blessings will be here!

Janosky:
Where did John 1:1 say the Father and Son and ghost are one?

{John 1:1} In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
If you had read what was written in the first place I wouldn't have to repeat-Allow me to show you some scriptures-I know you find it difficult to understand about the trinity..
{1. Matthew 3:16} “After being baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove and lighting on Him.”
{2. Matthew 12:28} “But if I [Jesus] cast out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.”
{3. Matthew 28:19} “Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit . . .”
{4. Luke 3:22} “And the Holy Spirit descended upon Him [Jesus] in bodily form like a dove, and a voice came out of heaven, “You are My [the Father’s] beloved Son, in You I am well-pleased.”
[5. John 14:26] “But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My [Jesus’] name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.”
[6. John 15:26] “When the Helper comes, whom I [Jesus] will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify about Me . . .”
{7. Acts 1:4} “Gathering them together, He [Jesus] commanded them not to leave Jerusalem, but to wait for what the Father had promised, “Which,” He said, “you heard of from Me . . .”
{8. Acts 2:33}
“Therefore having been exalted to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He [Jesus] has poured forth this which you both see and hear.”
{9. Acts 10:38} “You know of Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed Him with the Holy Spirit and with power, and how He went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him.”
{10. Romans 1:4} “Who was declared the Son of God with power by the resurrection from the dead, according to the Spirit of holiness, Jesus Christ our Lord . . .”
{11. Romans 8:9} “However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him.”
{12. 1 Corinthians 6:11} "Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.
{13. 2 Corinthians 13:14} "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all.
{14. Galatians 4:6} "Because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!”
{15. Ephesians 1:17} "That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of Him. "
{16. Ephesians 2:18} "For through Him we both have our access in one Spirit to the Father.
{17. Ephesians 2:22} "In whom [ Jesus] you also are being built together into a dwelling of God in the Spirit.
{18. Titus 3:6} "Whom [the Holy Spirit] He poured out upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior.
{19. Hebrews 9:14} "How much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without blemish to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
{20. 1 Peter 1:2} "According to the foreknowledge of God the Father, by the sanctifying work of the Spirit, to obey Jesus Christ and be sprinkled with His blood: may grace and peace be yours in the fullest measure.
So as we can see the trinity theory still stands among the believers-{I said the believers} it's quite simple to understand-the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit are One.
{John 1:14} "The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. {Jesus}
So obviously Jesus, lived among us. It's Jesus who is coming in the last days-God with Him in Spirit-there's no separation between the Father the Son and the Spirit.. "As I said: I myself don't see a problem with the above-it's pretty simple to understand-It's child's play...

Janosky:


Know NOTHING WAYO man.
Where did John 1:1 say the Father and Son and ghost are one?

John 1:18 , "no man has seen God at ANYTIME"
Does your your brain understand the implications of "ANYTIME" in John 1:18 ?

So your Jesus be the God he always OBEYS

John 1:18 is exposure of your lack of SENSE...

DrLiveLogic:

Im suspecting you

Rozz:
fake wealthy pastor johnw47 has taken a back sit with his habits of same same quotes when DrLiveLogic came on board.I think DrLiveLogic has been here before I'm suspecting him.DrLiveLogic=Fairheart

MuttleyLaff:
Different time zones, perhaps?

Rozz:
what do you mean?

MuttleyLaff:
I noticed that DrLiveLogic was on, all day long, meaning, at a different time, that johnw47 came online all night long

Rozz:
Hes not johnw47, I'm suspecting he's Fairheart

MuttleyLaff:
What particularly is it that arouses your suspicion that he is Fair\heart?

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Rozz:
Im suspecting you

Ani, suspecting him of what?

Hey dude, don't ever mention me again. You can continue in your argument with those you think you are scripturally better than and win the souls of those you assume have been affected for not agreeing with your Trinity, but don't mention me. You've got the entire time in the universe to continue in your dogmatic crusade!

DrLiveLogic:
Who's that guy. LMAO. Definitely not me or even my type. He thinks I'm in an unnecessary argument? People post lies that can affect christians souls and you think it's unnecessary to reprove them. If you don't care about others, why care if we care? This is important for christians to be sure of what they believe before wolves devour them.
Thought Rozz was genuinely interested in knowing truth, which I'm still wondering if she really is. She claimed no one ever wins JWs. LMAO. Imagine that, Smh. How can their glaring ignorance be lauded by anyone apart from their own.
Well I'm sure it's clear enough now that they know jack not even 3 simple questions can any single one of them answer, even the one that claimed to be a teacher, Smh. Was thinking I'd have to ask my more difficult questions. But if they can't do arithmetic, why should I even give them calculus. LMAO.
Got me thinking and I decided to post truth out and frm page84, till now on 100 and JWs still running and hiding from 3 questions of a cute kid. Not a single one of them would even leave a fingerprint on them. LMAO.
They probably thinking there's Covid19 on those questions. LMAO. See them all on lockdown now. LMAO. I thought lockdown's off in Nigeria.
Rozz even feeling so sorry for them now esp Maximus.
Obviously JWs will lose every argument against truth hands down cause lies never win truth and I'm just one of millions that can prove it. Whichever of them's in doubt should first answer my 3 questions. LMAO. I've got bigger ones coming.
Well, fairheart, you said no one should try convince you out of your falsehood and I ain't even gonna try, lol. Hold on to your sweet delusion and miss out on worshipping Jesus the Almighty, along with the elders and all angels.
However don't come here forming "I don't wanna do this" and then go ahead to quoting the bible. That's hypocritical and probably a cop out for not being able to handle the 3 questions.
If you ain't ready to do a thorough on the bible, then keep your hands off it and stick to your "heavenly dreams". About those too, I'll take John's open vision anytime than some anonymous guy's dream that contradicts. Like who knows what you ate before you went to bed. LMAO.
There are so many revelations of the throne of God in the Bible and not one shows a "smaller" throne on God's geographical right cause there simply isn't. Only one sovereign throne in the center of creation- the throne of God and the Lamb, all other thrones bow to this throne, so why should we care about your sleep diaries?
Who knows, could have been a figment of your imagination but then again that's your problem not ours.
You JWs are so lucky, I've been engaged. I got so much in store for you that I'm considering doing a thread on your delusions. I just want you all to exhaust your lies while I trash every single one of them out here for good. Then I just might find the time to open that thread so you'll have nothing you can say there. If Rozz is really a JW mole, I'm still somewhat suspicious, she and all of 'em will be regretting this thread when I'm done with all their lies here and I'm ready to do a thread of mine. LMAO.

@Rozz, you're suspecting me. I'm suspecting you too. LMAO


LMAO. Ya think. And boy, do I love your signature. LMAO.

fairheart:
Hey dude, don't ever mention me again. You can continue in your argument with those you think you are scripturally better than and win the souls of those you assume have been affected for not agreeing in your Trinity, but don't mention me.

Can you believe yourself? Did I not tell you I don't know you and don't wanna talk to you. Aren't you the one that mentioned me first and was tryna teach me the bible. Maybe if you don't mention me again I won't.
You'd do good getting that hypocritical, sulking, tantrum-throwing chip off your shoulder on your way out.

Maximus69:
Your PERSONAL opinion Sir!

there is nothing personal about it.

DrLiveLogic:

Can you believe yourself? Did I not tell you I don't know you and don't wanna talk to you. Aren't you the one that mentioned me first and was tryna teach me the bible. Maybe if you don't mention me again I won't.
You'd do good getting that hypocritical, sulking, tantrum-throwing chip off your shoulder

A fool is known by his many words and never-ending harangue. With all your know-all dogmatic approach to this subject, what have you achieved on the JW members you have engaged? You're just an obtuse fellow!! You can keep mentioning me and bluster here and there, I'll not reply you. Goodluck on your asinine crusade!!!

DrLiveLogic:
Meanwhile, let's do a quick one on whether Jesus is angel Michael cause I see that's what they're tryna pull off.
I'm just taking down JW bullets one by one until they're totally empty. Want them to bring it all out here to their undoing.

Joh 1:1-3 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made

So we know from above the history of Jesus from before creation, we see that He was with God and created all things in one Being with God (I'm coming to this creation part when I clear my table, lols.)
Do we find in any part of his history that he was made an angel. No.
He had never manifested anywhere at all but remained hidden in God's bosom. When you go down this history and get to verse 14, we find what happened next.

Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Does anyone see anything about the Word being an angel in his history here before he became flesh because I don't. All I see is He was with and in God and from the bosom of the Father, he came out as flesh through a virgin. He never manifested before then and surely he never manifested as an angel.
But we know Michael has always commanded the warring faction of angels and had always been visibly active.
And what does Paul say about if he manifested as an angel?

Heb 2:14 Because without doubt he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.

Yep. Paul didn't mince words about it, he never took the nature of angels but only the seed of Abraham. Just as John said, from being with God in the bosom of the Father straight to taking on flesh or becoming flesh. Why that? Because God wanted to put the world in subjection to man and not angels. That's why he never manifested as an angel but only as a man.

Heb 2:5-7 For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak. But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man, that thou visitest him? Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands:


Do you JWs even read their bible. The whole of Hebrews 1&2 was written to show that Jesus is not an angel but greater, the only-begotten from the Father's bosom for that matter. Only means only, duh!

How then can Jesus be angel Michael who has and will always be an angel and who was never called by that name when we know the Word only took on flesh.

Any JW that wants to quote me must first have the balls to answer my 3 questions. LMAO.
I see you JWs aren't tired of your shallow tricks of quoting verses of after Jesus became a Son and using those to separate him from Father. As if there was such distinction before he became flesh. Your barrels are so empty now, you're recycling used bullets that can't hit. LMAO.

I know this ain't WW2 but I'm gonna come soon with my heavy atomic bomb "little boy" for JW right after you're all out of bullets. LMAO
I see many of them already tryna find a cool way to run out tha thread. Live to fight another day fake soldiers. LMAO.




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Bro Jesus has always being the Son of God even before the world began.
don't let Jehovah false witness make you believe that Jesus being the son is less than the father.
The Son of a lion is a lion, The Son of man is man, the Son of God is God.
Father Son relationship that between Jesus and his Father existed even before the world began.

solite3:
Bro Jesus has always being the Son of God even before the world began.

I am not understanding this ooo. The Word has been, before the world began. Jesus Himself didnt exist, until before the Holy Spirit fell upon Mary nah.

solite3:
don't let Jehovah false witness make you believe that Jesus being the son is less than the father.

This one is an incontrovertible fact nah

solite3:
The Son of a lion is a lion, The Son of man is man, the Son of God is God.

The Son is a Lion, The Son of man is man, the Son of God, is God, He is the Lion of Judah

solite3:
Father Son relationship that between Jesus and his Father existed even before the world began.

Please expatiate, without leaving no stone unturned, on how the Father Son relationship between Jesus, the Son and His Father existed even before the world began, but within the context of Father and Son exclusively though