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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 12:03pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
dapsyra: I'm actually not acquiring two extra CCs for fun. That'll make five units in total. I think I'm expectant of whatever it throws at me from the experimenting. Don't see me as a destroyer o ![]() @bolded. By pushing to the limit, do you mean that you overrated the voltage going into the CC or the amp from the panels? If it's the amps, by what margin did you go? ojeysky: Thanks. This is informative. |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by litaninja(m): 12:44pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
Over the course of the weekend, installed my setup working with an installer and justcallmenuel supplying batteries. 6 x 250W Jinko Poly Panels 1 MPP Solar 3024GK 2 x Venus 200AH Batteries Breakers, the standard Nigeria inverter knife switch ![]() So far, looking good. ToDo: - Shift those batteries small...the way they are bent is bending my brain. - Setup monitoring either via an ESP32 wireless board or RPi - Integrate monitoring with HomeAssistant running on another RPi Big ups to the forum for keeping this going for about a decade now... 1 Like
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by NiyiOmoIyunade(m): 12:44pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
Does this imply that you tried to use one PV array with two different charge controllers at thesame time? This is a very bad thing to do - I am struggling to understand why the PV voltage on one CC affects the performance of another CC. You can have as many CCs as you want connected to one battery bank so long as the battery can safely absorb their combined amps output. But you should never connect thesame PV array to more than one CC. In my case I have 4 independent PV arrays and charge controllers connected to my battery bank. I may add a fifth CC soon. ojeysky: |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ojeysky(m): 12:59pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
NiyiOmoIyunade: No he was not using the inbuilt CC of the hybrid, the hybrid was just serving as normal inverter.
This should indeed be normal behaviour but in that particular case it didn't work, and since ipowerplus is somewhat is being talked about I thought I should mention that experience. |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mahkanjuh: 1:00pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
Ceaser01:Thanks so much Boss |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ojeysky(m): 1:01pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
litaninja: Welcome to the GK world, how early does your inverter wake up and sleep? I can inform you ahead that you may need to add at least 2 more panels later ![]() |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 1:05pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
NiyiOmoIyunade: I'm very sure he doesn't imply connecting one panel array to drive two CCs simultaneously. That's one of the basic things one learns not to do on the journey. In fact the wiring of one array to 2 CCs will be one I can't wrap my head around. I think he meant that the the ipowerplus and PowMr both have their independent array, but the panel array for the PowMr exceeded that allowable for the IpowerPlus but within the acceptable limit for the PowMr. The resultant error was only corrected when they were forced to reconfigure the PowMr array, sacrifice it and therefore underutilize the 150v voltage limit of the PowMr to allow for the 75v ipowerplus not to be confused. Speaking of which I actually bumped into a YT video of a hybrid inverter with two different CCs installed inside it and the two CCs receive their input from two different arrays. The output AC of the inverter is split phase into 120v (in two places) so that if you are in regions with 100v to 120vac, you just connect to one phase but if you are in Nigeria for example you connect the two 120vac phases across to get your 240vac output voltage. I'll see if I can retrieve the link. ojeysky: Edited. I see you've responded. But how will the ipowerplus be misbehaving if the in-built MPPT is inactive? That doesn't really add up. I tjought the in-built MPPT being active with an external MPPT on one battery will be the same as having two different CCs charge one battery. |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mahkanjuh: 1:08pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
Ceaser01: Thanks so much boss Please, can this 1kva power a freezer of 110w? |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 1:16pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
mahkanjuh: I never used this for a freezer for once, I only used it for basic electronics like TV, decoder and charging most which did not exceed 200 wards at any one time. It may be able to power an inverter freezer since the initial surge is absent with those but rather slowly the condenser ramps up power to full speed. For the regular freezers, it may be able to power the continuous draw, but it may have some challenge handling the surge which may be 5 times that declared 100 watts, but it's not absolute o. In fact I once had one cheap 1200 watts pure sine that only powers a 115 watts freezer on the 4th attempt each time I try to plug in the freezer. The earlier attempts, the overcurrent protection kicks in up till about a fifth attempt when the freezer now works. I guess those previous attempts already primed the freezer condenser already so that a fifth start attempt will not draw as much current as the first. A 12v 1.5kva will likely do it for you. |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by essegis(m): 1:23pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
ceaser: Thats a split phase inverter I think. |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by essegis(m): 1:27pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
ceaser: Ceasar, are you saying the 118 version can be upgraded to have WiFi? Cos I am eyeing the 119 version of MakeSkyBlue only cos of the WiFi functionality. So make I just bone and go for the 118? Also, do I need a special tool for set up to charge Lithium with these MakeSkyBlue? Make I know so I can order once with them oo. Victron and ePever I have I had to purchase external tools for link up. Now I'm looking for a 3.81-4p connector to make the ePever link up after purchasing the Bluetooth dongle. |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 1:29pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
essegis: Yep. Guy is David Poz. Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUaDmVDcYks |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 1:32pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
essegis: @ Bolded. My error, I meant to say v119. The v119 has WiFi hardware in-built but the v118 does not. However v118 is readily upgradable to v119 using some dongle that you have to purchase from them too. The upgraded v118 will lack WiFi features. essegis: It supports lithium charging out of the box. In the setting you will select "D01" which is the setting parameter for lithium which automatically puts the boost, charge and float voltages at 14.5v. You may have to edit the 14.5v to something like 14.1v though cos I noticed that with the 14.5v my BMS overcharge protect trips off at 14.4v. You may also have to increase the LVD value to 12v from the 10v default. |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 1:41pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
litaninja: Lovely. Did you have a metal fabricator do that enclosure? I bet not the roadside ones cos they won't understand that diagram you put up there. Are the extra fans temperature controlled or perpetually working? |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mahkanjuh: 1:58pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
ceaser:Okay, thanks so much |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Namzy(m): 2:18pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
ceaser:My parents use 5kva ipowerplus with Felicity solar 60amppt. They have panels conected to the mppt portion of the inverter plus the Felicity CC. That's setup should be 5 years this yr without any issue. That's why I went for the 3kva version and planning to connect some panels to its mppt since I already maxed out my fangpusun CC 2 Likes |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by spartacus11(m): 2:24pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
ceaser: Probably one can boycott this with a generator. Why the generator is on powering the freezer for someinutes you quickly change over to the inverter. |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Namzy(m): 2:25pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
ceaser:I'm confused. There's no way panel array connected to different mppt cc will cause problems so far you didn't exceed the Voc and current. Unless you are saying you can't configure the absorption and float for each or one of the CC. The only problem I encounter with my fangpusun is during equalization as my inverter shuts down when battery voltage gets to 31v |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 2:30pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
Namzy: He exceeded the VoC of the ipowerplus in his own case, hence the misbehaviour. |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by litaninja(m): 3:15pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
Its one of those pre-made electrical cabinets readily available from the industrial electrical stores. Typically the stores have someone working with them or that they can refer you to make the necessary cutouts. Nothing too fancy needed, drilling machine, Dremel Saw & Hand file. This was one done at Alaba, from my experience with them, I just send a diagram, put a call across and explain & they're able to figure it out from there. Fans are not temperature controlled (yet), and currently have a manual switch I can toggle as needed. I'd be making a few purchases for sensors and smart stuff to integrate as time goes on. ceaser: 1 Like |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by litaninja(m): 3:20pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
Lol. Thanks. - Haven't checked for the wake up time yet, still sorting out other stuff (new place). - Also panels are directly facing west on a high tilt roof (not much I could do, na baba landlord get house, no be me ![]() Ah, 2 more panels ke? In series? Money never dey o. Though, while testing, we got steady in the range of 180v - 200v. Plans in my mind are for another 6panels for a second string in parallel. ojeysky: |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by koladeolutola: 3:55pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
spartacus11: @spartacus11@ceaser..Please I need some clarifications from you ...how can I reach u.... koladeolutola.ojo@gmail.com |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by essegis(m): 4:20pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
ceaser: This is great news. Finally one thing I don't have to buy extra for with plenty searching and beg beg. |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by futurenix(m): 4:32pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 5:42pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
litaninja: How much did the cabinet cost? |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 5:43pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
Lovely lithium packs here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-ABA1vwpp0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV49R9tSn9g 1 Like |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Malevonent: 5:45pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
kiekie1: any update on the wind turbine harvest? |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 5:49pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
koladeolutola: Sent you mail. But I'd advice that any questions bothering you are best asked where various minds with varying experiences will have inputs - a place like here, a purpose which this forum has greatly served. Even I can learn from such discourse. |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by koladeolutola: 6:10pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
ceaser: Yet to get the mail... I need a basic set up in lieu of Lumos... To power TV, decoder, light and fan I am considering 200ah 12v battery, 12v1kva inverter, 2(150w) panels , charge controller? ...saw your neighbourhood testimonies and needed recommendations |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by koladeolutola: 6:19pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
koladeolutola: 2. Also considering starting the above with a 2.5kva inverter so I can scale up to accommodate a small 130watts freezer... What is workable |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by oluwolexy(m): 6:34pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
ojeysky: I need your suggestions on this inverter specifications(mercury inverter) The Inverter is Pure Sine Wave Inverter which can be connected to various loads such as inductive load (air conditioners, refrigerator), motors (vacuum cleaners), and rectifier load (computer). Pure Sine Wave Inverter are designed to work with heavy load conditions. Technical Specifications DC Voltage 24V DC Voltage range 20-30V W/O Battery AC normal Working Normally Max input Current 40A I/P Voltage range 170-254V I/P Frequency 50Hz/60Hz(Auto testing) Generator yes Output Voltage 220V Output frequency 50Hz Output capacity 2500W Max surge protect 7500W ECO mode <20W Max efficiency >80% Transfer Time 16+/-4ms Power factor 0.7 Inductance load/Capacitance load yes Resistance load yes Current adjustable 10-70A Voltage adjustable 26-30V Charge mode 3 step-Bulk, Boost, Float Charging Current 0.2xBattery capacity (for 100AH = 20A) Display & Alarm LCD, LED & Buzzer Working Temp 0°C-40°C Cooling way Fan cooling Working Humidity |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 8:22pm On Jul 06, 2020 |
ceaser: LOLZ, i tot i was the king of cheap simple functional installs, you sire is the undisputed king. 5 powmr/makeskyblue 60amps mppt is not upto the price of 1 Morning star 60amps mppt CC with all the bell & whistles ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
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