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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:31pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Maximus69:
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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:35pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Maximus69:In other words your God failure is intentional. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 8:40pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
GRIMMJOE:no need to comment on something I already did a topic on. On the contrary I lead my group most times on presentations, una sabi brag here and its not my thing. We all have our areas of interest and I will beat you hands down if you dare me in my own field |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:44pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Rozz:What's your own field... madam leader. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by fairheart(m): 8:48pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
GRIMMJOE:Your words made me change my mind, so let me add to what have been said! You do not need to see the future, so such sleep is not necessary. Like I said, it is a gift for purposes best known to the One who honoured my life with it. For the second sentence: my brother, I can feel you and why you have doubts. And your doubts are genuine, because I am not going to be religious and start saying things that are not true or in agreement with realities in our world today. All the good people who cares about the suffering of humanity and the chaos in this world have asked the same question: Why do this God distance Himself and allow His own creations to suffer. Does He cares? He is concerned at all? So many questions! Here, the Bible provide some answers, but these are not answers that can be accepted except one is ready to "HOPE" in and "BELIEVE" in things you cannot see at this moment. The book of Isaiah 65: 17, “For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth, and the former things shall not be remembered or come into mind. There is no hidden interpretation to that Bible reference. Take it literal. He is creating a new world, new system, new plan. It is like a US government saying they are designing a program that will fix American financial challenges. Or like you saying, "I will build my house before I am 50 years." It is a plan in motion; we cannot see it, but "HOPE" asked us to "BELIEVE" such plan is out there. I strongly believe the Creator feels our agony and pain. I think He has a plan (Note that I am talking from a mind that has been permeated by belief and hope). What is He trying to do? Honestly, there is so much misconception and contradictions on this. I advise you not to engage hardcore Christians on this issue, they will confuse you more. Don't engage any denominational Christian; they are divided against themselves. The new heaven is in Heaven, it is a physical world, that and this. These are confused, and will also cause you more confusion. What you need to do is open yourself, open your mind, be ready to take in new information. Your Creator feels your pain; he knows you are deeply concern that this world is broken and not working. But please, open yourself to Him, not to anybody else. Do independent Bible study if you will and open your heart to occurrences around you, as you go on living your life defending truth about this Creator, supporting humanity in your capacity. In your study, you will find contradictions, words of some Bible writers that conflicts others, but I trust that the Spirit of knowledge will guide you. Amen HOPE that He is truly creating a new system while you do your best for human race. HOPE! 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by fairheart(m): 8:53pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
You are creating confusion with your approach to this. It is the pattern of teachings of people like you that has scattered Christianity today. You think there's only one way to having God reveals Himself to people? Now I understand why this thread has reached over 100 pages. Please do better! You really need to go back to my old comments to you. Maximus69: 2 Likes |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:57pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
fairheart:The guy doesn't even know what he believes in, that's why I don't take him serious. In the Bible God revealed him self to murders, rapist, and all sort of criminals. 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:01pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
GRIMMJOE:He never failed, what you mortals term as failure is God's respect for your freewill. He wants you to see that if not guided your freewill may land you in big trouble that can cost your very existence! Genesis 2:17 Adam and Eve chose absolutely freedom not the related freedom God offered them, they die in the process and the consequences of their rebelliousness is what we're all experiencing today. God have the power to resurrect each and every one of those that are in his memory but evildoers will not be remembered! John 5:28-29 So what mortals thought as weakness is actually divine wisdom and power to the immortals! ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:08pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
fairheart: Well some are claiming that God revealed himself to them as three in one, some say he asked them to drink snipper, some say he wants them to eat grass, some say he wants them to sleep with different women/men. That's what your way has caused today yet you're still saying it's the same God that's revealing himself to people in different ways! Matthew 7:13-14 ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:08pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
fairheart:If a God wants to do something, it's already done. The summary of your write up is " have faith" faith is very important in religion, without faith religion won't work. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:14pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Maximus69:You seem to be going off point, so let me ask you, what is the intention of religion/ Christianity/ Islam/Jehovah's witness, you can pick any one. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by fairheart(m): 9:15pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
GRIMMJOE:Yes, faith, driven by truth! That sums it up. But you don't necessarily have to be at this station for now. As you open yourself, and with occurrences ahead for you, I'm sure you will reach this state and hold unto whatever conclusion you get from your experience. God has His own time, and His own reasons for His new world. I don't want to blame Him for not haven't done it immediately. All the best bro! |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:27pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
GRIMMJOE: God arranged for a global reorientation for humanity, we must learn how to live and let live, Satan created so many other groups claiming worshipers of the same God. So while true Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses) are busy preaching and teaching people how to become peace lovers, Satan's agents are making them feel humans can solve their own problems, that's why it's difficult for them to make peace reign! God's people (Jehovah's Witnesses) are connecting peace lovers globally and making them subjects for Jesus {2Corinthians 10:5} with a view of living forever as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! John 17:21-23 |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:29pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
fairheart:"Truth" hope you know the lack of proof that your religion is the truth is the reason Atheist exist, is the reason so many religion exist, is the reason this thread have reached page 117. And your second summary is I don't know, at least you were brave to say this. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:33pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Maximus69:Good for you. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:35pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:38pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Maximus69:You will get there, or maybe not, some people never wakes up, some do.
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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:44pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
GRIMMJOE: Sooner or later, meanwhile both you and i are enjoying together now, the only difference is i'm preaching and teaching people how to love and care for their neighbours as well as hoping for the day when all evil will be things of that past, i can't just see you in the picture because you have no purpose nor plans about how this world will ever become a better place! ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:50pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Maximus69:But your God wants people to suffer because of their rebellion, if anything your hindering his plan. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:58pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
GRIMMJOE:Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa He has a plan to right the wrong, he is a spirit and spirits don't think the way humans do. To him humans are learning, remember his book said he created us from the dust, so it cost him nothing the way or manner that dust will return to dust. Meanwhile he's taking account of those who are willing to be obedient and not rebellious, when all these is over he will reward them with the real life the everlasting life. So see yourself as one person having the chance to live and accomplish whatever you dream of, the suffering of humans like yourself will continue to be there until his kingdom come! ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 10:03pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: * John 5:37 "The Father who sent me testifies on my behalf. You have never heard his voice, and you have never seen his form" MuttleyLaff claims Jesus has no clue that his God and Father have form.. ![]() * John 4:46 "No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God; only he has seen the Father. John 1:18 " No man has seen God at anytime....." When the Trinity GIBBERISH DULLS a man's brain, he MUST revolt against Jesus Christ and the holy Bible ![]() ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 10:05pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: DappaD:You think you aren't putting limit on God oga, huh? OK, explain why are you limiting God to three persons then? DappaD:"Hear, Israel: Yahweh is our God; Yahweh is one" (i.e. Hear, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah) - Deuteronomy 6:4 Will you already stop proof-texting with Deuteronomy 6:4, a verse you barely understand and don't appreciate its meaning ![]() ![]() ![]() You just enjoy making up things not said and relish the thought to lie sha. Where in the above quote, did you get anything said about multidimensional entity from, hmm? Dont you undestand the meaning of being in more than one place at the same time within the same dimension, DappaD:"9You parents—if your children ask for a loaf of bread, do you give them a stone instead? 10Or if they ask for a fish, do you give them a snake? Of course not! 11So if you sinful people, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father, give good gifts to those who ask Him." - Matthew 7:9-11 I wonder, whom, in Matthew 7:9-11, Jesus was comparing God to. The height of ignorance some display on this thread ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 10:09pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Maximus69:I'm guessing this is the reason muttleylaff was saying a God doesn't have limit, because you just gave him one. He has a plan to right the wrong, a God that wants to right the wrong can simply do this by blinking. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 10:14pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Since there had been so many child molesting reports against the Watchtower-these three young Girl's are just dressing up for the picking.. johnw47: 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 10:23pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
GRIMMJOE: He surely has limits! ![]() Only bullies don't have limits, once they feel like this is how things should be they take charge. You can see that when you drive against the one way, if soldiers catch you, they'll deal ruthlessly with you for breaking the traffic rules but when something urgent comes up, they themselves will do exactly the same thing. God has all the power to right the wrong at a go but he respects our freewill and want us to learn from the consequences of demanding for absolute freedom, something different from the relative freedom that we truly deserve! ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 10:23pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
While in the mean time-your love for us as neighbours doesn't come close to the love you claim to have for others, that you may think they are listening to you.... Maximus69: 2 Likes |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 10:26pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
brocab: LOVE doesn't rejoice with unrighteousness! 1Corinthians 13:6 If you're not ready to live by the same rules that binds us together as one family, you can go and worship your own God! ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 10:26pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
brocab:"... Out of the abundance of your PERVERTED heart... even though you see well-groomed ladies in that photo...." Kai !!!!!! Bros, you just confirmed your status. You are a confirmed "spirit filled" PERVERT. TUEH !!!! |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 10:28pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Maximus69:Maximus69, please give one instance of God, ever, breaking any explicit stated rule |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 10:30pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Janosky: Their minds is made up, Jehovah's Witnesses say their form of worship is wrong so they're all ready to condemn JWs even when they're not seeing anything to point out as wrong in what the Organization teaches! ![]() 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 10:30pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff:I don't understand your question! |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 10:38pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
GRIMM\JOE: Maximus69: MuttleyLaff: Maximus69:OK, I'll ask with another set of questions. 1/ Is God limited to only three persons? 2/ Does God have the capability of expressing Himself to us in more than three persons? 3/ Does God have the power to reveal Himself to anyone/anything, other than in the three persons? |
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