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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 10:42pm On Jul 07, 2020
MuttleyLaff:

OK, I'll ask with another set of questions.
1/ Is God limited to only three persons?
2/ Does God have the capability of expressing Himself to us in more than three persons?
3/ Does God have the power to reveal Himself to anyone/anything, other than in the three persons?

Sorry i still can't understand this questions of yours. Who are the three persons and what has God got to do with them? undecided
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 10:43pm On Jul 07, 2020
Maximus69:


He surely has limits! smiley

Only bullies don't have limits, once they feel like this is how things should be they take charge.

You can see that when you drive against the one way, if soldiers catch you, they'll deal ruthlessly with you for breaking the traffic rules but when something urgent comes up, they themselves will do exactly the same thing.
God has all the power to right the wrong at a go but he respects our freewill and want us to learn from the consequences of demanding for absolute freedom, something different from the relative freedom that we truly deserve! wink
A God with limit is not a God, what is the name of whom you worship.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 10:46pm On Jul 07, 2020
Maximus69:


LOVE doesn't rejoice with unrighteousness! 1Corinthians 13:6
If you're not ready to live by the same rules that binds us together as one family, you can go and worship your own God! smiley
Can I ask you what's the intent of Islam, I believe they considered themselves as one family.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 10:48pm On Jul 07, 2020
GRIMMJOE:

A God with limit is not a God, what is the name of whom you worship.

That's one of his attributes!

He said about himself "i am slow to anger" Exodus 34:6

So don't expect him to act rashly, because he will first consider so many things before taking action! wink
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 10:52pm On Jul 07, 2020
brocab:
While in the mean time-your love for us as neighbours doesn't come close to the love you claim to have for others, that you may think they are listening to you....
He's religion promise love, but this love is only found within his family members, hence his religion can't solve the problem of this world, as it's a love that has failed to reach out to others.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 10:52pm On Jul 07, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
Can I ask you what's the intent of Islam, I believe they considered themselves as one family.

The world also claim to be a global family, that's why they're hypocritically forming alliance against Covid19.
But a family is the place where all disputes are settled amicably without the use of weapons or force to resolve issue!
Place Islam on that parameter and solve the equation yourself! wink
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 10:54pm On Jul 07, 2020
Maximus69:


LOVE doesn't rejoice with unrighteousness! 1Corinthians 13:6
If you're not ready to live by the same rules that binds us together as one family, you can go and worship your own God! smiley
But the rules that binds you people together has failed to reflect in the world we live in.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 10:54pm On Jul 07, 2020
Maximus69:
Sorry I still can't understand this questions of yours.
Who are the three persons and what has God got to do with them? undecided
"Hear, Israel: Yahweh is our God; Yahweh is one"
(i.e. Hear, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah)
"
- Deuteronomy 6:4

God, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are who are the three persons. Each and all are God, is what God has to do with them. The three are one. Jehovah is one.

Now please, stop temporizing or playing for time, but promptly give your responses to those three easy, innocent, harmless, simple, direct and straightforward questions.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 10:54pm On Jul 07, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
He's religion promise love, but this love is only found within his family members, hence his religion can't solve the problem of this world, as it's a love that has failed to reach out to others.

If they're not reaching out to others, how come persons like me became one of Jehovah's Witnesses? cheesy

My friend, forget about blind arguments.

Jehovah's Witnesses are reaching out to everyone, just say you don't want to live by the rules of their family yet you want them to accept you into their family circle! cheesy
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 10:59pm On Jul 07, 2020
MuttleyLaff:






OK, I'll ask with another set of questions.
1/ Is God limited to only three persons?
2/ Does God have the capability of expressing Himself to us in more than three persons?
3/ Does God have the power to reveal Himself to anyone/anything, other than in the three persons?

John 4:24, 5:37 & 15:15 have solved this GIBBERISH you take dey console yourself

1)
* Exodus 6:3
"I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob as El-Shaddai—‘God Almighty’—but I did not reveal my name, Yahweh, to them."

Yahweh El-shaddai revealed Himself as "I", my, "God Almighty".
Bros, NOTHING Triune about God there except M FRAUDULENTLY imported.
The OT Jews NEVER saw, NEVER heard and NEVER read anything triune about Yahweh El-shaddai.

2).
Numbers 23:19 Yahweh NEVER LIE at anytime.

who are Yahweh's co-equal ,co-eternal triune contemporaries?

Isaiah 45:15 "There is no other God,nor anyone like me"

Isaiah 46:5
Can anyone compare with me? Is anyone my equal?

3).
Nobody doubts the awesome power of Yahweh El-shaddai.
Yahweh Says Himself is One Yahweh Deuteronomy 6:4
NOT triune Yahweh
grin
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:01pm On Jul 07, 2020
Maximus69:


That's one of his attributes!

He said about himself "i am slow to anger" Exodus 34:6

So don't expect him to act rashly, because he will first consider so many things before taking action! wink
Well, now we have established that your God has limit.

Hence we can also agree he failed, as inability to succeed is also a limit.

And what should anyone do with your God that fails, do you mind listing some of his other limit.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 11:04pm On Jul 07, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
"Hear, Israel: Yahweh is our God; Yahweh is one"
(i.e. Hear, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah)
"
- Deuteronomy 6:4
God, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are who are the three persons. Each and all are God, is what God has to do with them. The three are one. Jehovah is one.
Now please, stop temporizing or playing for time, but promptly give your responses to those three easy, innocent, harmless, simple, direct and straightforward questions.

OK now i get you! smiley

According to the Bible verse you quoted, Jehovah is just one person not he is neither the son nor the holy spirit! smiley

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:04pm On Jul 07, 2020
Maximus69:


The world also claim to be a global family, that's why they're hypocritically forming alliance against Covid19.
But a family is the place where all disputes are settled amicably without the use of weapons or force to resolve issue!
Place Islam on that parameter and solve the equation yourself! wink
But a true Muslim doesn't support killing, I'm sure you'll agree with me that their are Muslim that has never killed before, and those killing are controlled by Satan.

What do you have to say about this.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 11:05pm On Jul 07, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
But the rules that binds you people together has failed to reflect in the world we live in.

Are you sure of that? smiley
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 11:06pm On Jul 07, 2020
Maximus69:


If they're not reaching out to others, how come persons like me became one of Jehovah's Witnesses? cheesy

My friend, forget about blind arguments.

Jehovah's Witnesses are reaching out to everyone, just say you don't want to live by the rules of their family yet you want them to accept you into their family circle! cheesy
Matthew 10:32-40 and Revelations 3:5,12.
1 Corinthians 3:23, 1Corinthians 11:1.
Them no ready to copy & follow Jesus example of worship to Jehovah his God.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:07pm On Jul 07, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
"Hear, Israel: Yahweh is our God; Yahweh is one"
(i.e. Hear, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah)
"
- Deuteronomy 6:4

God, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are who are the three persons. Each and all are God, is what God has to do with them. The three are one. Jehovah is one.

Now please, stop temporizing or playing for time, but promptly give your responses to those three easy, innocent, harmless, simple, direct and straightforward questions.
I'm not choosing sides, but a God wants to split himself into a million pieces it's possible.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 11:08pm On Jul 07, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
Well, now we have established that your God has limit.
Hence we can also agree he failed, as inability to succeed is also a limit.
And what should anyone do with your God that fails, do you mind listing some of his other limit.

The bolded is your PERSONAL opinion Sir!

He is LOVE! 1John 4:8
And LOVE never fail! 1Corinthians 13:8 wink
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:10pm On Jul 07, 2020
Maximus69:


If they're not reaching out to others, how come persons like me became one of Jehovah's Witnesses? cheesy

My friend, forget about blind arguments.

Jehovah's Witnesses are reaching out to everyone, just say you don't want to live by the rules of their family yet you want them to accept you into their family circle! cheesy
So tell me, how has this love or circle solved problems, can you mention some world problem it solved globally.

I mean it should be historic, right?
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:12pm On Jul 07, 2020
Janosky:


John 4:24, 5:37 & 15:15 have solved this GIBBERISH you take dey console yourself

Look how passionate you are.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 11:13pm On Jul 07, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
But the rules that binds you people together has failed to reflect in the world we live in.

You should have restricted it to their midst. That people voluntary leave the community of JWs says the rules don't really bind them.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:14pm On Jul 07, 2020
Maximus69:


Are you sure of that? smiley
Like you said, it only exist in you small circle.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 11:15pm On Jul 07, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
"Hear, Israel: Yahweh is our God; Yahweh is one"
(i.e. Hear, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah)
"
- Deuteronomy 6:4

God, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are who are the three persons. Each and all are God, is what God has to do with them. The three are one. Jehovah is one.

Now please, stop temporizing or playing for time, but promptly give your responses to those three easy, innocent, harmless, simple, direct and straightforward questions.

Una dey see MuttleyLaff wey talk say his God bigger than Trinity?

grin grin grin grin


John 4:24 and 1 Corinthians 3:23. John 17:3.
Our heavenly Father is the one true God,Yahweh
We belong to Yahweh.
Jesus Christ belongs to Yahweh.


No dey console yourself with Triune, 3 persons FRAUD.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 11:17pm On Jul 07, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
But a true Muslim doesn't support killing, I'm sure you'll agree with me that their are Muslim that has never killed before, and those killing are controlled by Satan.
What do you have to say about this.

That's the image of God as found in man, God is Love so it's natural to see humans who will find it hard to support killing of other humans like themselves. That's why Jesus said "by the fruit your religious Organization is bearing, you should know who planted it" Matthew 7:16-19

Islam supposed to be a religion of PEACE because they're taught to greet you with PEACE, but where God's spirit is not operational, there is nothing you can do to establish the peace that only God could give through Jesus Christ our Lord! John 14:27 compare to Isaiah 2:2-4

So even if a peaceful person finds himself in the wrong religion there is nothing he can do to instill peace in the heart of adherents of a violent religion! Genesis 16:11-12 smiley
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:18pm On Jul 07, 2020
Maximus69:


The bolded is your PERSONAL opinion Sir!

He is LOVE! 1John 4:8
And LOVE never fail! 1Corinthians 13:8 wink
But love don't exist in the whole world, we can also say, he that is love doesn't exist, in other words, your God doesn't exist.

Are you familiar with Joseph Campbell.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 11:19pm On Jul 07, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
Look how passionate you are.

John 4:24, 5:37 & 15:15. 17:17

Passionate for the truth Jesus Christ spoke.
grin
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 11:20pm On Jul 07, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
Like you said, it only exist in you small circle.

It had great influence on people my dear, whenever they see JWs come together from different races even counties or nations that are fighting and killing one another, shame catches all other groups and they're so terrified seeing a group settling all racial prejudice and differences in their midst! Matthew 5:13-16 wink
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 11:21pm On Jul 07, 2020
Maximus69:


The world also claim to be a global family, that's why they're hypocritically forming alliance against Covid19.
But a family is the place where all disputes are settled amicably without the use of weapons or force to resolve issue!
Place Islam on that parameter and solve the equation yourself! wink

Maximus69: But a family is the place where all disputes are settled amicably without the use of weapons or force to resolve issue!

Achorladey: This your definition of family ehn grin grin grin grin. Well it's to support your ORGANIZATION mindset.

Have you heard about BENJAMIN mass sex at GIBEAH before?

I am wondering how the FAMILY DISPUTE in this particular FAMILY was solved amicably without the use of weapons. If you know you can tell!
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:22pm On Jul 07, 2020
achorladey:


You should have restricted it to their midst. That people voluntary leave the community of JWs says the rules don't really bind them.

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 11:23pm On Jul 07, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
But love don't exist in the whole world, we can also say, he that is love doesn't exist, in other words, your God doesn't exist.
Are you familiar with Joseph Campbell.

Those who finds it difficult to make LOVE JOY and PEACE reign in their midst, are the sign that makes us Jehovah's Witnesses!
Their inability to make peace is the undeniable evidence that a Supreme Being is the one behind the peace in our midst! Micah 4:1-3 smiley
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:25pm On Jul 07, 2020
Maximus69:


That's the image of God as found in man, God is Love so it's natural to see humans who will find it hard to support killing of other humans like themselves. That's why Jesus said "by the fruit your religious Organization is bearing, you should know who planted it" Matthew 7:16-19

Islam supposed to be a religion of PEACE because they're taught to greet you with PEACE, but where God's spirit is not operational, there is nothing you can do to establish the peace that only God could give through Jesus Christ our Lord! John 14:27 compare to Isaiah 2:2-4

So even if a peaceful person finds himself in the wrong religion there is nothing he can do to instill peace in the heart of adherents of a violent religion! Genesis 16:11-12 smiley
What makes you think there's no peace in Islam, remember Satan is the one controlling the evil doer's.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:26pm On Jul 07, 2020
Janosky:

John 4:24, 5:37 & 15:15. 17:17
Passionate for the truth Jesus Christ spoke. grin
Keep going my brother.

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:30pm On Jul 07, 2020
Maximus69:


It had great influence on people my dear, whenever they see JWs come together from different races even counties or nations that are fighting and killing one another, shame catches all other groups and they're so terrified seeing a group settling all racial prejudice and differences in their midst! Matthew 5:13-16 wink
So you religion makes shame to catch people, any global historic event.

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