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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 12:07am On Jul 08, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
Wait o, on a serious note, why can't he give answers to the three easy, innocent, harmless, simple, direct and straightforward questions, in the same format and numbered up style they were asked?

he'sscaredofgivingtheanswers grin grin grin
You know maximus, when you drive him into a corner he'll start avoiding the questions, especially the ones he can't lie his way through.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 12:09am On Jul 08, 2020
Maximus69:


There was nothing like Christianity throughout the earth before 1919 when Jesus restructured his group and commissioned them once again to continue the preaching and teaching work they were doing in the first century!

Charles Taze Russell and his group did all they could to find out how Jesus established Christianity, himself and many in his time did so many things to get it right but it was in 1919 that Jesus in the spirit reorganized those who were willing to take corrections and began leading them in the work he started before Satan halted it after the death of his Apostles.

So those who came to Africa were politicians not Christians Sir! smiley
So you're saying the Christianity that existed before Jehovah's witness is fake.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 12:11am On Jul 08, 2020
Here's your Trinity, look no further.

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 12:13am On Jul 08, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
So you're saying the Christianity that existed before Jehovah's witness is fake.

Exactly!

Christianity began in the year 29ce and disappeared after the death of the last Apostle, it resurfaced in 1919.
That's why you can't find any religion claiming Christians without the use of force or weapons like JWs, Jesus forbids the use of force and weapons for his own true followers! smiley
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 12:14am On Jul 08, 2020

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 12:18am On Jul 08, 2020
Maximus69:


Exactly!

Christianity began in the year 29ce and disappeared after the death of the last Apostle, it resurfaced in 1919.
That's why you can't find any religion claiming Christians without the use of force or weapons like JWs, Jesus forbids the use of force and weapons for his own true followers! smiley
Maximus I'm going to leave our conversation and be honest with you.

Do you know without the Yahweh Christians, the Bible wouldn't have spread.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 12:20am On Jul 08, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
... my position, is God is not a "not-known-number" of person. God, as a matter of fact then, is, x-person and so [b]God, in effect is, ∞-persons, as in, meaning, God is infinite or infinity[/b].

God is someone without any bound, without limit, without an end. God is the first and the last, God oxymoronically has no beginning and no end. God is someone bigger and larger than any specified number, even three or trinity. This means, dont put God in a box. It explains why God in His infinite wisdom didnt allow the the word trinity to be printed black and white kokoro out in the Bible, lol

Well, you've likely, often heard it said, if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself. Something to be done right is exactly what it's all about and so what God did. This is a matter of the classsic diy aka Do-It-Yourself.

God can send Himself on an errand, and did send Himself to earth, in the form of Jesus Christ because God simultaneously can be in more than one place at a time (i.e. God can be in Heaven and on earth, at the same time) Note that, Jesus didnt correct people that addressed Him as God, for example, where and when said: "My Lord, My God" to Him

Christ cannot share the same body with God the father, because God is formless. God has no clear definite shape or size. Jesus Christ is the product of God projecting Himself as a human being in the person of Jesus Christ on earth. Jesus Christ is the visible image of the invisible God. Why does Jesus Christ need to be a human being on earth?. Fundamentally, it is because one needs a human body to lawfully and have a permitted way to legally operate on earth. God is not going to be a law breaker and be breaking Genesis 1:26-28

Now, though Jesus is God, He did not think of equality with God, as something to cling to. Instead, He gave up his divine privileges. He took the humble position of a servant and was born as a human being, and so God appeared on earth, in human form, as in, the person of Jesus Christ, God's Son, which means, it is a guarantee and not rocket science, that fathers will always know things that sons will have no idea or knowledge of.

This isnt news anymore



DappaD:
Boy, you don't get the drift. You don't come up and ask me trash. Those questions are meant for your fellow trinitarians since you lot can't come to an accurate definition of your trinity dog god
You must have got something to hide that is preventing you from having the courage to answer those easy, simple, innocent, harmless, direct and straightforward questions.

For you to use "... your fellow trinitarians ..." betrays a deficit in understanding what the phrase means and implies. In spite knowing what my position is (i.e. God is , you still went ahead to turn this personal and dishonestly lump with me with a wrong and myopic view setting. Smh.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 12:21am On Jul 08, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
... my position, is God is not a "not-known-number" of person.

God, as a matter of fact then, is, x-person and so God, in effect is, ∞-persons, as in, meaning, God is infinite or infinity.

God is someone without any bound, without limit, without an end. God is the first and the last, God oxymoronically has no beginning and no end. God is someone bigger and larger than any specified number, even three or trinity. This means, dont put God in a box. It explains why God in His infinite wisdom, didnt allow the the word trinity, to be printed black and white kokoro out in the Bible, lol

Well, you've likely, often heard it said, if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself. Something to be done right is exactly what it's all about and so what God did. This is a matter of the classsic diy aka Do-It-Yourself.

God can send Himself on an errand, and did send Himself to earth, in the form of Jesus Christ because God simultaneously can be in more than one place at a time (i.e. God can be in Heaven and on earth, at the same time) Note that, Jesus didnt correct people that addressed Him as God, for example, where and when said: "My Lord, My God" to Him

Christ cannot share the same body with God the father, because God is formless. God has no clear definite shape or size. Jesus Christ is the product of God projecting Himself as a human being in the person of Jesus Christ on earth. Jesus Christ is the visible image of the invisible God. Why does Jesus Christ need to be a human being on earth?. Fundamentally, it is because one needs a human body to lawfully and have a permitted way to legally operate on earth. God is not going to be a law breaker and be breaking Genesis 1:26-28

Now, though Jesus is God, He did not think of equality with God, as something to cling to. Instead, He gave up his divine privileges. He took the humble position of a servant and was born as a human being, and so God appeared on earth, in human form, as in, the person of Jesus Christ, God's Son, which means, it is a guarantee and not rocket science, that fathers will always know things that sons will have no idea or knowledge of.

This isnt news anymore



DappaD:
Boy, you don't get the drift. You don't come up and ask me trash. Those questions are meant for your fellow trinitarians since you lot can't come to an accurate definition of your trinity dog god
You must have got something to hide that is preventing you from having the courage to answer those easy, simple, innocent, harmless, direct and straightforward questions.

For you to use "... your fellow trinitarians ..." betrays a deficit in understanding what the phrase means and implies. In spite knowing what my position is (i.e. that, God is infinite or infinity et cetera), you still went ahead to turn this personal and dishonestly lump with me with a wrong and myopic view setting. Smh.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 12:24am On Jul 08, 2020
Maximus69:


There was nothing like Christianity throughout the earth before 1919 when Jesus restructured his group and commissioned them once again to continue the preaching and teaching work they were doing in the first century!

Charles Taze Russell and his group did all they could to find out how Jesus established Christianity, himself and many in his time did so many things to get it right but it was in 1919 that Jesus in the spirit reorganized those who were willing to take corrections and began leading them in the work he started before Satan halted it after the death of his Apostles.

So those who came to Africa were politicians not Christians Sir! smiley

You always read but you seem not to digest what you read. Even the organization you are a member did not support what I bolded above. The image below says.....false Christianity flourished and hid the identity of true Christians ..........

in essence true CHRISTIANITY exist even before the parent of Russell thought of giving birth to him. The image below has more.

In addition you can't read the supporting Scripture to the paragraph to see that the WHEAT and WEEDS keep growing together. It didn't say the weeds kill the wheats.

Finally how can Jesus comeback and start restructuring the WHEATS without first binding the WEEDS and throw them into the FIRE first.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 12:25am On Jul 08, 2020
So maximus69 what global problems the rule in the mist of Jehovah's witness solve.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 12:27am On Jul 08, 2020
MuttleyLaff:



You must have got something to hide that is preventing you from having the courage to answer those easy, simple, innocent, harmless, direct and straightforward questions.

For you to use "... your fellow trinitarians ..." betrays a deficit in understanding what the phrase means and implies. In spite knowing what my position is (i.e. God is , you still went ahead to turn this personal and dishonestly lump with me with a wrong and myopic view setting. Smh.
Of course I know your stand quite alright. You're of the opinion that God exists in multiple forms at different places. Which is just one of the versions of trinity. So yes it doesn't make you any different from the trinitarians I tagged you along with.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 12:39am On Jul 08, 2020
Lord\Reed:
Muttley just delivered a dropkick. LMAO!

[img]https://media1./images/e4e4730bdc422c5f75b1126926077485/tenor.gif?itemid=4838544[/img]

MuttleyLaff:
You must have got something to hide that is preventing you from having the courage to answer those easy, simple, innocent, harmless, direct and straightforward questions.

For you to use "... your fellow trinitarians ..." betrays a deficit in understanding what the phrase means and implies. In spite knowing what my position is (i.e. that, God is infinite or infinity et cetera), you still went ahead to turn this personal and dishonestly lump with me with a wrong and myopic view setting. Smh.

DappaD:
Of course I know your stand quite alright. You're of the opinion that God exists in multiple forms at different places. Which is just one of the versions of trinity. So yes it doesn't make you any different from the trinitarians I tagged you along with.
Trinity is limited. Infinity is unlimited. Duh.

If only you could just develop some steel balls to answer these three easy, innocent, harmless, simple, direct and straightforward questions, in the same format and numbered up style they are asked, you just might have the blinkers drop off
1/ How did the God appeared to Moses?
2/ How did God reveal Himself to Moses?
3/ God personally appeared to Moses how?
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 12:40am On Jul 08, 2020
Maximus69:


Exactly!

Christianity began in the year 29ce and disappeared after the death of the last Apostle, it resurfaced in 1919.
That's why you can't find any religion claiming Christians without the use of force or weapons like JWs, Jesus forbids the use of force and weapons for his own true followers! smiley

Did the WEEDS kill the WHEATS according to the Christ parable? If Christianity disappeared after the death of the last apostle, how come Jesus still find WHEATS in 1919 according to your TEACHINGS?

Perhaps Jesus had to turn WEEDS into WHEATS grin grin grin grin grin cool cool cool since all the WHEATS disappeared after the death of the last apostle.

In reality that's what it is. RUSSELL was originally a WEED but Jesus Christ then turn him to WHEATS by restructuring RUSSELL grin cheesy cheesy cheesy.

You will rewrite the Bible at this rate or make Jesus a LIAR.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 12:40am On Jul 08, 2020
Janosky:

Matthew 10:32-40 and Revelations 3:5,12.
1 Corinthians 3:23, 1Corinthians 11:1.
Them no ready to copy & follow Jesus example of worship to Jehovah his God.

false jw janosky

if you are scared to post God's word
your posts are worthless

just book, chapter and verse numbers, say's nothing


me thinks you don't post bible verses because your non understanding of them will be pointed out

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 12:56am On Jul 08, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
I know you haven't the balls, you aren't that bold and confident enough, to just go ahead and answer those earlier asked three easy, innocent, harmless, simple, direct and straightforward questions, in the same format and numbered up style they were asked grin grin grin

Go wear your specs check this thread wella, you go see am.
grin
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 1:00am On Jul 08, 2020
johnw47:


false jw janosky

if you are scared to post God's word
your posts are worthless

just book, chapter and verse numbers, say's nothing


me thinks you don't post bible verses because your non understanding of them will be pointed out


Dimwitted Johnw FRAUD, I challenge you to paste all these Scriptures here..

Matthew 10:32-40 and Revelations 3:5,12.
1 Corinthians 3:23, 1Corinthians 11:1.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 1:02am On Jul 08, 2020
Janosky:
Una dey see MuttleyLaff wey talk say his God bigger than Trinity?

grin grin grin grin

John 4:24 and 1 Corinthians 3:23. John 17:3.
Our heavenly Father is the one true God,Yahweh
We belong to Yahweh.
Jesus Christ belongs to Yahweh.

No dey console yourself with Triune, 3 persons FRAUD.



Janosky:
Go wear your specs check this thread wella, you go see am grin
Yinmu. Be deceiving yourself there, temporizing or playing for time.

Give the link where responses to those three easy, innocent, harmless, simple, direct and straightforward questions were given using the same format and numbered up style they were asked.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 1:07am On Jul 08, 2020
achorladey:


You always read but you seem not to digest what you read. Even the organization you are a member did not support what I bolded above. The image below says.....false Christianity flourished and hid the identity of true Christians ..........

in essence true CHRISTIANITY exist even before the parent of Russell thought of giving birth to him. The image below has more.

In addition you can't read the supporting Scripture to the paragraph to see that the WHEAT and WEEDS keep growing together. It didn't say the weeds kill the wheats.

Finally how can Jesus comeback and start restructuring the WHEATS without first binding the WEEDS and throw them into the FIRE first.
Are you sure you were even a publisher? Or just a Bible student who fell along the way.
Because Jesus' illustration of the wheat and weeds is quite understood among Witnesses.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 1:10am On Jul 08, 2020
MuttleyLaff:



Yinmu. Be deceiving yourself there, temporizing or playing for time.

Give the link where responses to those three easy, innocent, harmless, simple, direct and straightforward questions were given using the same format and numbered up style they were asked.
Janosky:


John 4:24, 5:37 & 15:15 have solved this GIBBERISH you take dey console yourself

1)
* Exodus 6:3
"I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob as El-Shaddai—‘God Almighty’—but I did not reveal my name, Yahweh, to them."

Yahweh El-shaddai revealed Himself as "I", my, "God Almighty".
Bros, NOTHING Triune about God there except M FRAUDULENTLY imported.
The OT Jews NEVER saw, NEVER heard and NEVER read anything triune about Yahweh El-shaddai.

2).
Numbers 23:19 Yahweh NEVER LIE at anytime.

who are Yahweh's co-equal ,co-eternal triune contemporaries?

Isaiah 45:15 "There is no other God,nor anyone like me"

Isaiah 46:5
Can anyone compare with me? Is anyone my equal?

3).
Nobody doubts the awesome power of Yahweh El-shaddai.
Yahweh Says Himself is One Yahweh Deuteronomy 6:4
NOT triune Yahweh
grin

Exodus 20:4-5, "There is NOTHING in heaven or earth comparable to Yahweh.
Yahweh El-shaddai have absolutely no triune contemporaries

John 4:24 "God is a spirit", said Jesus.
How many person is that spirit in John 4:24?

Dey there dey console yourself with Triune JUNK
grin
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 1:14am On Jul 08, 2020
Janosky:


Dimwitted Johnw FRAUD, I challenge you to paste all these Scriptures here..

Matthew 10:32-40 and Revelations 3:5,12.
1 Corinthians 3:23, 1Corinthians 11:1.

lying pharisee fraud jw janosky

what, me do your work for you

post them or your posts remain worthless, oh huge mumu dullard

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 1:17am On Jul 08, 2020
idol worshippers and vain false jw's mad max and mad trivina

when someone cannot do anything because her
fingernails are too long, that is idol worshipping and vanity

you mad max and mad trivina worship long fingernails and shaved pussy

Isa_2:8  Their land also is full of idols; they worship the work of their own hands, that which their own fingers have made:

Psa 144:8  Whose mouth speaketh vanity, and their right hand is a right hand of falsehood.

cc: lie lie rozz

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 1:24am On Jul 08, 2020
Yeh bro-every time this verse comes up-they hide themselves away from it,..
{Matthew 5:43-48}
“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? ...
GRIMMJOE:
He's religion promise love, but this love is only found within his family members, hence his religion can't solve the problem of this world, as it's a love that has failed to reach out to others.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 1:25am On Jul 08, 2020
DappaD:

Are you sure you were even a publisher? Or just a Bible student who fell along the way.
Because Jesus' illustration of the wheat and weeds is quite understood among Witnesses.

For your mind I did not understand it abi? grin grin grin. At least you know today that RUSSELL na WEED before conversion to WHEAT. You understand that one? grin grin grin

You even sure sey you dey among the WHEATS as a JW in line with wetin dem the leaders of the ORGANIZATION teach you? grin grin grin

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 1:27am On Jul 08, 2020
achorladey:


For your mind I did not understand it abi? grin grin grin. At least you know today that RUSSELL na WEED before conversion to WHEAT. You understand that one? grin grin grin

You even sure sey you dey among the WHEATS as a JW in line with wetin dem the leaders of the ORGANIZATION teach you? grin grin grin
No you did not understand it. So you'll keep speaking ignorant of it
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 1:30am On Jul 08, 2020
Janosky:
Exodus 20:4-5, "There is NOTHING in heaven or earth comparable to Yahweh.
Yahweh El-shaddai have absolutely no triune contemporaries

John 4:24 "God is a spirit", said Jesus.
How many person is that spirit in John 4:24?
Dey there dey console yourself with Triune JUNK grin
[img]https://s1/images/TruthBarkWrong-Tree.jpg[/img]

Triune/trinity is limited. Infinity is unlimited. Duh.

If only you could just develop some steel balls to answer these three easy, innocent, harmless, simple, direct and straightforward questions, in the same format and numbered up style they are asked, you just might have the blinkers drop off
1/ How did the God appeared to Moses?
2/ How did God reveal Himself to Moses?
3/ God personally appeared to Moses how?

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 1:31am On Jul 08, 2020
johnw47:


lying pharisee fraud jw janosky

what, me do your work for you

post them or your posts remain worthless, oh huge mumu dullard
Johnw FRAUD CALLING these Scriptures
(Matthew 10:32-40 and Revelations 3:5,12.
1 Corinthians 3:23, 1Corinthians 11:1)

LIEs already CONFIRM your status....
Triune IDOL WORSHIPPER DEY condemn the words of God's servants in his own Bible

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 1:33am On Jul 08, 2020
DappaD:

No you did not understand it. So you'll keep speaking ignorant of it

And you can't explain the image of the initial post you responded to. grin grin grin. Oga don't use IGNORANCE cover anything. Read my response again and again. I know what I post up there and supported it a image of your publication.

Make I ask 1. RUSSELL na wetin before +/-1919 ? A. Weed B. Wheat

2. Did Jesus convert RUSSELL from WEED to WHEAT? A. yes B. No

3. Did Jesus burn any WEEDS when he returned and started restructuring the WHEATS (1914-1919)?

Make I see wetin you no understand for the parable. shocked

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 1:36am On Jul 08, 2020
You haven't read these verses?
{Matthew 5:43-48}
“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? ...
{1 John 4:8} Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love.
But I believe this one is for you personally..
{Proverbs 6:16-19}
There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers...
Maximus69:


LOVE doesn't rejoice with unrighteousness! 1Corinthians 13:6
If you're not ready to live by the same rules that binds us together as one family, you can go and worship your own God! smiley

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 1:38am On Jul 08, 2020
brocab:
Sadly-for you-the world knows-how deadly the Watchtower produces it's fruit..I am sure you would prefer these girl's to be younger boy's for your own picking....

Una see GIBBERISH from the heart of brocab triune IDOL WORSHIPPING PERVERT ?

So you sink so low??
Brocab you are a DISGRACE........
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 1:40am On Jul 08, 2020
achorladey:


For your mind I did not understand it abi? grin grin grin. At least you know today that RUSSELL na WEED before conversion to WHEAT. You understand that one? grin grin grin

You even sure sey you dey among the WHEATS as a JW in line with wetin dem the leaders of the ORGANIZATION teach you? grin grin grin
I hope you know the “weeds” in Jesus' illustration stand for false and pretense Christians?
Charles Taze Russel and his associates, who were ardent students of the Bible rejected the false and unscriptural doctrines of the churches then and studied the Bible to get the true understanding of Bible's original and pure teachings. So since the ‘weeds’ in Jesus' illustration refer to false Christians, how are CT Russel and his associates now the ‘weeds’ ?

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 1:41am On Jul 08, 2020
Does this mean the Watchtower won't accept me? Thank God for that...
Janosky:


Una see GIBBERISH from the heart of brocab triune IDOL WORSHIPPING PERVERT ?

So you sink so low??
Brocab you are a DISGRACE........

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