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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nezzjnr: 7:40am On Jul 11, 2020
Oasis007:
Bruno Fernandes is the first player in Premier League history to hold the Player of the Month and Goal of the Month awards concurrently.

- PL
Cc Hensben

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Prectega(m): 7:44am On Jul 11, 2020
Gilmour out , Kante Out

Shelfield the Lord’s work is over to u

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:06am On Jul 11, 2020
Oasis007:
Ralph Hasenhüttl (Southampton manager): "It is more important that he's [Solskjær] convinced about what he's doing, and at the moment he proves all the 'experts' wrong. It's an impressive turnaround he made with his team."

- Sky

At least this one didn’t claim to study our weaknesses cool

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 8:39am On Jul 11, 2020
KingTom:

Aguero learned but Tevez blatantly refused grin


And nobody could muster enough liver to tell him to go learn it
grin grin cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingTom(m): 8:49am On Jul 11, 2020
Leyqute:



And nobody could muster enough liver to tell him to go learn it
grin grin cheesy

My guy na real "I'm in my house, come and beat me" crusader grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BARAJ92(m): 8:51am On Jul 11, 2020
olabode89:


We might have to rest at least 3 players, I would suggest Matic, Shaw and Bruno.
Bruno should not be rested, it is best to rest Pogba than Bruno, Bruno is the one that makes our attack thick.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ravioli(m): 8:56am On Jul 11, 2020
How to Introduce a Youngster - The Ole Way

A thread on Ole's careful & measured introduction of Mason Greenwood to senior football and how it has shaped his meteoric rise.

A THREAD



Before we dive in, let's look at Greenwood's standard stats

- 42 Appearances
- 20 Starts
- 2107 minutes
- 16 Goals
- 3 Assists

2107 mins in 42 apps = avg 50 mins/game
20 starts out of 42 apps = only 48% were starts

As is evident he has been slowly blooded into the side by Ole.

But these numbers don't tell the whole story. For that we have to break it up further.

Total Apps: 42 | Starts: 20 | Mins: 2107

In PL
Apps: 27 | Starts: 8 | Mins/Game: 37.4
Goals: 9 | Assists: 1

In Cups
Apps: 15 | Starts: 12 | Mins/Game: 73.1
Goals: 7 | Assists: 2

United have played 53 games this season with Mason making an appearance in 42 of them.

In the PL Mason has missed just 7 out of the 34 games while in the cups he's just just 4 out of the 19 games.

Even though he has played regularly, Ole has looked after his progress carefully.

Now let's try to breakdown how Ole handled Mason's starts.

Total Apps: 42 | Starts: 20
First 10 apps: 3 starts
Next 10 apps: 5 starts
Next 10 apps: 5 starts
Last 12 apps: 7 starts

As the season progressed Ole started giving Mason more starts.

Ole was careful with giving Mason starts but he was just as careful giving him minutes.

Total Minutes: 2107 | Apps: 42
First 10 apps: 395 mins
Next 10 apps: 504 mins
Next 10 apps: 561 mins
Next 12 apps: 647 mins

Again as the season progressed he started playing more.

His first 5 starts were against Astana, Rochdale, AZ, Partizan & Astana again. He scored 3 goals & an assist in these 5

His first start vs a PL side came vs Spurs in Dec which was also his 17th app of the season, Ole had played him 16 times before he started against a PL side.

Ole also made sure Mason played tougher opposition for longer as the season progressed. His PL minutes got better while his cups mins went down as seen below.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by adebayo201: 8:58am On Jul 11, 2020
This coming week is quite a busy week for the team... Monday, Thursday then Saturday.

In my own opinion, players need rest but it should be a kind of rest that will be systematic. Play 70 mins then rest for the next game.

The back four won't be change except for a card or injury (God forbid). I know William can come in for either Shaw/AWB and Dalot can come in for AWB but he hasn't got any game except the FA which he's substituted after some minutes.

Bailey too can come in for Lindelof. The last match really shows the compact in the team. They're gelling little by little especially the 'second midfielders'.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ravioli(m): 9:00am On Jul 11, 2020
First 10 Games
109 PL mins in 7 games
286 Cup Mins in 3 games

Next 10 Games
144 PL mins in 6 games
360 Cup mins in 4 games

Next 10 Games
238 PL mins in 6 games
323 Cup mins in 4 games

Last 12 Games
519 PL mins in 8 games
128 Cup Games in 4 games

As he played more vs better sides through the season, his end product also grew in the same line.

First 10 apps:
0 Goals in PL | 2 Goals in Cup

Next 10 apps:
2 Goals in PL | 3 Goals in Cup

Next 10 apps:
2 Goals in PL | 1 Goal in Cup

Last 12 apps:
5 Goals in PL | 1 in Cup

By starting him slow Ole gave him the perfect pathway to success. Nothing say this better than this:

In his first 12 apps Mason started just 4 games. He scored in all 4 of them. The only 4 scored in that time. The 4 were all smaller sides but the confidence he got was immense.

The graph of his introduction is a carefully choreographed upward tick. What this tells us is that Ole had a clear plan for Greenwood this season.

Let's take a look at the key points of this plan

Play him as often as you can (41 apps/53 games)

- Introduce him slowly vs PL sides while giving him more minutes against weaker cup sides

- Start him against weaker side so that he can gain confidence

- Give him just enough rest to not burn out but not enough to lose touch

Such mentoring & nurturing, making sure the player stays confident, sharp & fit is the reason why Greenwood has blossomed. Ole has shown us he's a master of youth.

We should be grateful that we have a manager who looks into the club for improvement rather than outside it.


- Source (ManUtdSense)

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ravioli(m): 9:03am On Jul 11, 2020
Rashford: New Role. (Post-lock down) - Inverted Insider forward (Midfielder) - Drop in half space/Bruno pushes up. - Rash creates for others with through passes or cross & more.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ravioli(m): 9:04am On Jul 11, 2020
Manchester United's attacking system is very fluid. Meaning:

- FBs/Inside Forwards switch positions
- CAM/ST switch
- Front 3 switch positions frequently.
- Pogba and Matic alterante.
- CAM/FB/IF triangles alternate.

The beauty all the players know when & where to fill the space.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ravioli(m): 9:05am On Jul 11, 2020
Thank God that dinosaur "Mourinho" is gone..

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ravioli(m): 9:08am On Jul 11, 2020
If Solskjaer names an unchanged team vs Southampton it will be the first time since January/February 1993 that Manchester United have been unchanged in five consecutive league games.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 9:12am On Jul 11, 2020
I don't understand why some Folks are calling for the Players' rest. Why do they need rest, if I may ask? Fatigue? Did we forget these Players have rested long enough? Thanks to Covid-19.

I don't see a Reason for altering, tinkering the Lineup for now. To build a Team, solid Team, you've got to playing them together at every given Opportunity.

Check Barcelona, Madrid Lineups, they barely change their respective Lineups, bar Injuries - same thing applicable to Bayern.

Fitness is all matter, if they're fit to play, so be it.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 9:18am On Jul 11, 2020
We have just 4-5 matches to go, Top 4 battle heating up .......

Ole ( he might have an account on Nairaland) don't rest anybody for now, the highest you can do is to make substitution early in the 2nd half (i.e if we are already leading comfortably).

God no go allow us sleep/rest when we don almost reach promise land

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 9:25am On Jul 11, 2020
Door to top 4 is widely opened, perhaps we will step into and never look back. We can't afford to lose any Match.

Chelsea and Leicester are likely to drop points. Both are playing away Matches.

Guess what? If both Team lose and we win, we'll be 3rd on the Log.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ravioli(m): 9:26am On Jul 11, 2020
Expert17:
We have just 4-5 matches to go, Top 4 battle heating up .......

Ole ( he might have an account on Nairaland) don't rest anybody for now, the highest you can do is to make substitution early in the 2nd half (i.e if we are already leading comfortably).

God no go allow us sleep/rest when we don almost reach promise land

Nawa oo.. They're all screaming rotate nii.. Why??

This is the first time in ages we've got almost a perfect squad. If the board can go out there and get us Sancho and then a pacy CB to partner HM. Then forget it, we are covered. I'll still give Shaw some time. If he can't make it.. Then BW will bench him outright without bat of eyelid. We need deputies for Bruno.. Pogba can be deputized by Fred.. But none for Bruno.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ravioli(m): 9:26am On Jul 11, 2020
Oasis007:
Door to top 4 is widely opened, perhaps we will step into and never look back. We can't afford to lose any Match.

Chelsea and Leicester are likely to drop points. Both are playing away Matches.

Guess what? If both Team lose and we win, we'll be 3rd on the Log.

I can't hear you.. Say it again. This time louder..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 9:29am On Jul 11, 2020
Ravioli:


I can't hear you.. Say it again. This time louder..

grin

The more I'm looking at the Log, the more I'm getting excited. This present Lineup can score Goals at anywhere. If you like park Tankers, Greenwood would help to light it up.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 9:34am On Jul 11, 2020
Ravioli:


Nawa oo.. They're all screaming rotate nii.. Why??

This is the first time in ages we've got almost a perfect squad. If the board can go out there and get us Sancho and then a pacy CB to partner HM. Then forget it, we are covered. I'll still give Shaw some time. If he can't make it.. Then BW will bench him outright without bat of eyelid. We need deputies for Bruno.. Pogba can be deputized by Fred.. But none for Bruno.

Ole won't even try the resting stuff..... He can thinker his Europa league selections not this one...

Ole confirmed Scot as Matic deputy,.... Fred can do Pogba's work to an extent, for now only Mata can play that Bruno's position.

Shaw just need to work on his positioning and delivery into opposition18 yard box .....
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 9:36am On Jul 11, 2020
Oasis007:
Door to top 4 is widely opened, perhaps we will step into and never look back. We can't afford to lose any Match.

Chelsea and Leicester are likely to drop points. Both are playing away Matches.

Guess what? If both Team lose and we win, we'll be 3rd on the Log.

True

Chelsea can't beat Sheffield United...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:00am On Jul 11, 2020
Ravioli:
Manchester United's attacking system is very fluid. Meaning:

- FBs/Inside Forwards switch positions
- CAM/ST switch
- Front 3 switch positions frequently.
- Pogba and Matic alterante.
- CAM/FB/IF triangles alternate.

The beauty all the players know when & where to fill the space.
Ahh...the much talked about FLUID TACTICS on gunners thread. Lol

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 10:05am On Jul 11, 2020
[quote author=handelex post=91594056][/quote]Shut up football governing body do.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by adebayo201: 10:06am On Jul 11, 2020
Expert17:


True

Chelsea can't beat Sheffield United...


Even Charlie the predictor of Skysport said he's confident that Sheffield would a at least a point from that game.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 10:08am On Jul 11, 2020
[quote author=Nezzjnr post=91594594][/quote]When I’m above you in the league table. Lol. Kids everywhere, grow up ok.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:23am On Jul 11, 2020
hensben:
Shut up football governing body do.
Hen'sbrain abi Cocksbrain or whatever you call yaself, your whining here is becoming brainless, since you're a member of Fifa ethics committee, go and cancel the match nau.... yen yen yen

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ravioli(m): 10:24am On Jul 11, 2020
grin

Remember when Arsenal fans used to mention Mason Greenwood and Martinelli in the same sentence.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ravioli(m): 10:26am On Jul 11, 2020
Oasis007:


grin

The more I'm looking at the Log, the more I'm getting excited. This present Lineup can score Goals at anywhere. If you like park Tankers, Greenwood would help to light it up.

That guy issa mad boy.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 10:28am On Jul 11, 2020
olabode89:


We might have to rest at least 3 players, I would suggest Matic, Shaw and Bruno.

You should not rest 2 out of our 3 midfielders at the same time.
MAYBE Matic but not Bruno.

AWB as well has had 2 average games.

If anyone has to be rested maybe those 2 BUT the best strategy is to start with a strong 11 finish the game in 60 minutes and then rest the players.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 10:34am On Jul 11, 2020
afrodoc:


You should not rest 2 out of our 3 midfielders at the same time.
MAYBE Matic but not Bruno.

AWB as well has had 2 average games.

If anyone has to be rested maybe those 2 BUT the best strategy is to start with a strong 11 finish the game in 60 minutes and then rest the players.

No.... We can't rest Matic.

Playing Scot or Fred ahead of Matic from the beginning of games will give Pogba more defensive work.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 10:36am On Jul 11, 2020
Ravioli:


Nawa oo.. They're all screaming rotate nii.. Why??

This is the first time in ages we've got almost a perfect squad. If the board can go out there and get us Sancho and then a pacy CB to partner HM. Then forget it, we are covered. I'll still give Shaw some time. If he can't make it.. Then BW will bench him outright without bat of eyelid. We need deputies for Bruno.. Pogba can be deputized by Fred.. But none for Bruno.

This Shaw that I am seeing will make it o. Who knew that getting him real competition for his position was the incentive he needed.
The guy has had 3-4 potential quality assists wasted since the return of games and his energy up and down that left flank keeps getting better.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 10:37am On Jul 11, 2020
Expert17:


No.... We can't rest Matic.

Playing Scot or Fred ahead of Matic from the beginning of games will give Pogba more defensive work.


I don’t want us to rest anybody but if one midfielder has to be rested it is Matic.

He is the least important of the 3. That is not really debatable.

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