OJURONGBE1:


Enough of the hype abeg
That guy hasn't done anything spectacular for this Chelsea team although he has played well.
I missed Hazard sha !
None of our current squad is good at taking on players one on one, draw more bodies and create spaces in between, may be Hakim would do that next season.

U sabi ball
Don't let anybody say otherwise by the way lampard is just unlucky not to have hazard.

cole01:



I feel teams love us keeping possessions, they just watch us pass and pass.
And why do we have to stop and wait for the opposition defense to reorganize before attacking, football is meant to be catching someone unaware ffs

there is something you are not recognizing, that passing and passing you are talking about is essentially the team controlling the match.
how else will a team control a match without the passing? and the fact remains that jorginho is the best passer we have in the team currently, none of our midfielders can pass better than him whether, lateral or diagonally.

the problem is that our attackers are too static for the passers. Other top attackers are constantly roaming and moving to create chances for themselves in front of or inside the opponents 18 yard box but our attackers constantly pull wide to receive the ball and cross, hence fewer direct chances.

The problem is not jorginho but those in front of him, if you open well, he will find you with a pass.

popizaino:



Sarri never felt bad cus he had hazard

Go through this statement again and see if it makes any sense to you. Do you really think it is a coincidence that hazard has his best career stats to date under sarri?

OJURONGBE1:


The same shakushaku that brought your team a league title in his first season.

Tell that to a Madrid fan, not me

Chelsea players will press an opponent but somehow this player will resist the press and make forward passes or even attempt to go forward with the ball himself but let a single opponent press a Chelsea player you will see our playing facing his own half to pass back.This single act must be improved before our next Match.

Meanwhile let sell odoi .Nothing good can come out of that boy.

Herbiedeen:
If anyone says shit about Jorginho having one kain foolish strength there...

A holding mf that can't hold the ball for 5 secs, a larger percentage of his passes are for those behind him, he can't even move with the ball at his feet and space to move into, marking - Error 404

What else is he good for other than passing to zombie and rudeman

He can’t even take risk of running into space with the ball before passing. Smh

donjazet:


there is something you are not recognizing, that passing and passing you are talking about is essentially the team controlling the match.
how else will a team control a match without the passing? and the fact remains that jorginho is the best passer we have in the team currently, none of our midfielders can pass better than him whether, lateral or diagonally.

the problem is that our attackers are too static for the passers. Other top attackers are constantly roaming and moving to create chances for themselves in front of or inside the opponents 18 yard box but our attackers constantly pull wide to receive the ball and cross, hence fewer direct chances.

The problem is not jorginho but those in front of him, if you open well, he will find you with a pass.

Mind you Jorginho is obviously the best passer of the ball but only backwards though, even Zouma can actually throw in long passes more than J5, it's either he's passing backwards, or giving signs with his hands feeling like the hybrid of Xavi and Pirlo, or getting booked unnecessarily and the most annoying putting his temamates in trouble...... If you checked every threatening ball today it was always from his blunders.
Whats the use of a DM if he ain't sharp, strong, tracks back, helps the defense, no shots, no killer passes, high porous to pressure.....

To me that's not a DM, I think the best position for Jorginho is actually outside the pitch playing his 2m passes....Ffs look at Casemiro, Matic, Mctominay, Fernandinho, Ndidi, Alcântara, Witsel, even Romeu at soton. A DM is meant to be dirty my brother not Mr nice guy and been ran over like a door mat just like the bearded guy did b4 the Mousset miss, your supposed to cover people's blunders not been the one to be covered. I don't think any coach would want J5 tbh

donjazet:


of course, jorginho, your favorite scapegoat. Meanwhile I don't hear you complain about the impotent midfielders ahead of him who were constantly losing the ball and lacked good decision making but yes go on and pick out the few moments he lost the ball seeing as he is now your new scapegoat.

We won't blame the other players who don't know how to press the opponent very well or those who looked inept in front of goal but of course your scapegoat is there to take all the blame for the teams inadequacies. Mtchew.

Don't get too emotional about Jorginho my guy. He is on his way out. I'm sure you saw several other people criticising him during the game, so just free me.

BlueMann:
After playing Man.u, we play Liverpool

Same sequence as our first two fixtures of the season.

The results must be different this time

Hopefully, it does improve, we have been quite poor since the restart, it's only in our match against mancity did I really feel happy and that's even because the whole team defended quite well and we utilized our chances. The rest of the matches haven't really been good. We had to come back against Aston Villa, barely scraped by Leicester, lost to Sheffield and West Ham.

The only good thing about this period is the emergence of pulisic. I do hope we win man-u in the semis. The shame go too much for me if we lose to them again.

cole01:


Mind you Jorginho is obviously the best passer of the ball but only backwards though, even Zouma can actually throw in long passes more than J5, it's either he's passing backwards, or giving signs with his hands feeling like the hybrid of Xavi and Pirlo, or getting booked unnecessarily and the most annoying putting his temamates in trouble...... If you checked every threatening ball today it was always from his blunders.
Whats the use of a DM if he ain't sharp, strong, tracks back, helps the defense, no shots, no killer passes, high porous to pressure.....

To me that's not a DM, I think the best position for Jorginho is actually outside the pitch playing his 2m passes....Ffs look at Casemiro, Matic, Mctominay, Fernandinho, Ndidi, Alcântara, Witsel, even Romeu at soton. A DM is meant to be dirty my brother not Mr nice guy and been ran over like a door mat just like the bearded guy did b4 the Mousset miss, your supposed to cover people's blunders not been the one to be covered. I don't think any coach would want J5 tbh

Then obviously you know nothing about possession football. What is your opinion on Sergio busquet and rodri?
Not too long ago, many people here wished Chelsea began to play possession football like Barcelona or mancity.

Many mancity and Barça matches might look boring to you because of the excess passes, but it is a style that guarantees winnings if adapted correctly and it will always leave behind a legacy even when there is managerial change. The system will still be in place.

donjazet:


Go through this statement again and see if it makes any sense to you. Do you really think it is a coincidence that hazard has his best career stats to date under sarri?

some of the players that did well under Sarri, or lemme say were manageable no come dey do like say them play last season with us. Apart from Sarri's stubbornness I guess having a clear direction and instructions help players.

Would like to see old Odoi, RLC and co back

BlueMann:


Tammy has a lot to learn, and he needs to learn fast. He's still too raw.

Damn, I wish Giroud had pace, that would've been something!

Tammy really does need to bulk up and gain confidence.

The guy started soo well for us this season, it's painful seeing him struggle soo much. I do hope he comes good for us.

donjazet:


Go through this statement again and see if it makes any sense to you. Do you really think it is a coincidence that hazard has his best career stats to date under sarri?

It's simple .

Haven played with morata a season earlier it was only pertinent of him to start aiming the post more often than to pass to morata.

BlueAngel444:
some of the players that did well under Sarri, or lemme say were manageable no come dey do like say them play last season with us. Apart from Sarri's stubbornness I guess having a clear direction and instructions help players.

Would like to see old Odoi, RLC and co back

Indeed.
I do hope our academy boys get back their confidence. Odoi and rlc were soo good in the Europa league last season, they showed real talent, it will be a huge loss for us if Mason mount, Tammy, James Reece, rlc and Hudson don't become hey players for us in the future, they have shown very good potential to be great previously.

donjazet:


Go through this statement again and see if it makes any sense to you. Do you really think it is a coincidence that hazard has his best career stats to date under sarri?

But Sarri said Hazard didn't play the way he wanted him to play. He didn't play Sarriball.

donjazet:


Then obviously you know nothing about possession football. What is your opinion on Sergio busquet and rodri?
Not too long ago, many people here wished Chelsea began to play possession football like Barcelona or mancity.

Many mancity and Barça matches might look boring to you because of the excess passes, but it is a style that guarantees winnings if adapted correctly and it will always leave behind a legacy even when there is managerial change. The system will still be in place.

Never fancied busquets, was just lucky to be a a very compact team, would fail woefully outside barca, and don't say Spain because he played with same squad. As for Rodri at least I see him taking shots, making tackles and all that not playing backward passes like Jorginho.
Even pep is leaving the failed system which has since been exposed and you want us to play that, do you really love this club bro.
Why do you think Klopp beats Pep almost all the time, even Ole did a triple over him, we even beat them at the bridge...... Look at what Juve looks like now...... Every football tactic must be figured out and I think that has been figured out already. Stop forcing us to play a failed system of football which has since gone extinct..... With such passes believe me we would never defeat that united side I watched yesterday even with the draw.... You just need press resistant defenders with a proper DM who can assist and high quality finishers to beat this system..... And Chelsea doesn't even press hard due to the help of Mr Jorginho the Italian maestro, no killer passes, no shots, only 2cm passes like a 2 year old kid and been runned over like a doormat.

Tammy problem is not weight or lankiness. Tammy weighs 87kg while Drogba weighed only 84kg. There are many lanky players who know how to use their body. Tammy does not know how to use his body, balance his weight on his back foot when ball is coming in, press his nyash into the opponent, lean down on opponents shoulder, put his arm out to control the opponents body movement and balance etc.

As an Ijaw man, his father should take him home this summer to learn egelege which will teach him how to control his opponents centres of gravity and keep them off balance. One summer of egelege will turn him into a Drogba.

Ibime:
Tammy problem is not weight or lankiness. Tammy weighs 87kg while Drogba weighed only 84kg. There are many lanky players who know how to use their body. Tammy does not know how to use his body, balance his weight on his back foot when ball is coming in, press his nyash into the opponent, lean down on opponents shoulder, put his arm out to control the opponents body movement and balance etc.

As an Ijaw man, his father should take him home this summer to learn egelege which will teach him how to control his opponents centres of gravity and keep them off balance.

donjazet:


Ibime, enough with the jorginho slander.
It's difficult seeing you diss a player like an unseasoned pundit just because of your personal dislike for the player.

There are very few deep playing midfielders like Toni kroos or Xabi who are finely tuned both defensively and offensively.
Nobody here ever taught of jorginho as a box to box midfielder. Even when he was at Italy, he was known for his passing. He broke records for his passes. He is a player who is attuned to a particular system.

Jorginho's role in a team is as a regista of which there are very few like Sergio busquet, rodri, Pirlo etc.

When signing jorginho, we knew we would have to pair him with hard working box to box midfielders like kante and Barkley to complement his poor work rate.

Look at other regista's in football, Sergio busquet has been very vital to Barça in the last 10 years because he perfectly suits their pattern and philosophy, but if he was brought into a kloop team that is purely a high intensity and high energy football or even our team, watch how he would flop because the system doesn't match his attributes.
But if this same busquet went to mancity today, watch him easily slot in the way rodri has slotted in easily.

Don't forget that mancity were very close to signing him before we snatched the deal from them after signing sarri because we realized how important he was to "sarriball" which was the project the club had embarked upon at that time which we later broke away from.

Today, nobody in mancity expects rodri to be creative or defensive, his primary role is simply to recycle possession with lateral and diagonal passes, connecting the defense to the attack via passes and ensuring safe transitioning. This is simply his work.

Jorginho has simply become a victim of Chelsea's managerial instability. Sarriball was the only reason we signed him and now he is stuck with a manager that doesn't need his skill set since he subscribes to a different philosophy of football. This doesn't mean he is a rubbish player like you would like everyone to believe.

These were our immediate reactions here when he was signed.

Hehehehe

cole01:


Never fancied busquets, was just lucky to be a a very compact team, would fail woefully outside barca, and don't say Spain because he played with same squad. As for Rodri at least I see him taking shots, making tackles and all that not playing backward passes like Jorginho.
Even pep is leaving the failed system which has since been exposed and you want us to play that, do you really love this club bro.
Why do you think Klopp beats Pep almost all the time, even Ole did a triple over him, we even beat them at the bridge...... Look at what Juve looks like now...... Every football tactic must be figured out and I think that has been figured out already. Stop forcing us to play a failed system of football which has since gone extinct..... With such passes believe me we would never defeat that united side I watched yesterday even with the draw.... You just need press resistant defenders with a proper DM who can assist and high quality finishers to beat this system..... And Chelsea doesn't even press hard due to the help of Mr Jorginho the Italian maestro, no killer passes, no shots, only 2cm passes like a 2 year old kid and been runned over like a doormat.

Tiki-taka, gone extinct
It's either you're just emotionally ranting or you're just a young naive football fan.
I am one of those who believes that a lot of money spent have made guardiola successful but make no mistake about this, the man is a very good tactical coach.

I've always made a point to emphasize that you don't need to downgrade someone to elevate another.
Liverpool are currently the best team in terms of consistency and fitness but make no mistake guardiola's team carries the day in terms of game play.

Giving both choices on which you would like to play, many more will surely choose Mancity's tiki-taka.

There was this Aura of excitement when sarri just came in because we have long wished to play that kind of exciting brand of attacking football. That we didn't see the project through doesn't mean one cannot wish Lampard tries to implement that philosophy.

Ibime:
Tammy problem is not weight or lankiness. Tammy weighs 87kg while Drogba weighed only 84kg. There are many lanky players who know how to use their body. Tammy does not know how to use his body, balance his weight on his back foot when ball is coming in, press his nyash into the opponent, lean down on opponents shoulder, put his arm out to control the opponents body movement and balance etc.

As an Ijaw man, his father should take him home this summer to learn egelege which will teach him how to control his opponents centres of gravity and keep them off balance. One summer of egelege will turn him into a Drogba.

Aka Gidigbo

donjazet:


Tiki-taka, gone extinct
It's either you're just emotionally ranting or you're just a young naive football fan.
I am one of those who believes that a lot of money spent have made guardiola successful but make no mistake about this, the man is a very good tactical coach.

I've always made a point to emphasize that you don't need to downgrade someone to elevate another.
Liverpool are currently the best team in terms of consistency and fitness but make no mistake guardiola's team carries the day in terms of game play.

Giving both choices on which you would like to play, many more will surely choose Mancity's tiki-taka.

There was this Aura of excitement when sarri just came in because we have long wished to play that kind of exciting brand of attacking football. That we didn't see the project through doesn't mean one cannot wish Lampard tries to implement that philosophy.

Well we got different opinions then, I'll pick Klopps high press all day..... Conte's counter during his first season is all I can ask for not making 1000 passes per match......I'm more attracted to high pressing football,.. Not a fan of Madrid but I really enjoyed how they played during the run of that triple UCL....
You might enjoy tiki - taka but high pressing counter all day for me..... Didn't you enjoy Brazil vs Belgium at Russia, lol..... I understand you bro, we love different stuff which is really cool


Happy for the three points,cheers

See Man City's Village people.

So Ed Woodward and Marina done turn to Tekashi 69?

Say no to snitching.

Ibime:
See Man City's Village people.

So Ed Woodward and Marina done turn to Tekashi 69?

Say no to snitching.

Chelsea has no business being in this group. For fucks_sake, we were the pioneers of billionaire owners in football. why we go join others come dey bully man city when people were looking at us in the exact same way when we started?

cole01:


Well we got different opinions then, I'll pick Klopps high press all day..... Conte's counter during his first season is all I can ask for not making 1000 passes per match......I'm more attracted to high pressing football,.. Not a fan of Madrid but I really enjoyed how they played during the run of that triple UCL....
You might enjoy tiki - taka but high pressing counter all day for me..... Didn't you enjoy Brazil vs Belgium at Russia, lol..... I understand you bro, we love different stuff which is really cool

Happy for the three points,cheers

I will be pedagogic with you on this. Read the below and be duly informed on jorginho's exact role. You are being biased when you say jorginho makes only back passes, clearly you were blind not to see the precise long passes he made when switching the game to both sides.

Ibime:
See Man City's Village people.

So Ed Woodward and Marina done turn to Tekashi 69?

Say no to snitching.

oboi if EPL take its toe on city by striping dem of top4 and making them to end in 5th position,, dats d end of their UCL dream next season... EPL can deduct 20points just to accommodate nanU should in case they don't qualify

cole01:


Never fancied busquets, was just lucky to be a a very compact team, would fail woefully outside barca, and don't say Spain because he played with same squad. As for Rodri at least I see him taking shots, making tackles and all that not playing backward passes like Jorginho.
Even pep is leaving the failed system which has since been exposed and you want us to play that, do you really love this club bro.
Why do you think Klopp beats Pep almost all the time, even Ole did a triple over him, we even beat them at the bridge...... Look at what Juve looks like now...... Every football tactic must be figured out and I think that has been figured out already. Stop forcing us to play a failed system of football which has since gone extinct..... With such passes believe me we would never defeat that united side I watched yesterday even with the draw.... You just need press resistant defenders with a proper DM who can assist and high quality finishers to beat this system..... And Chelsea doesn't even press hard due to the help of Mr Jorginho the Italian maestro, no killer passes, no shots, only 2cm passes like a 2 year old kid and been runned over like a doormat.

Hope you will not change mouth when pep guardiola get back to winning ways ?

donjazet:


I will be pedagogic with you on this. Read the below and be duly informed on jorginho's exact role. You are being biased when you say jorginho makes only back passes, clearly you were blind not to see the precise long passes he made when switching the game to both sides.

Being a Regista doesn't mean you should be useless at all other aspects of DM play. Thank God they mentioned Veratti, so we can know our own Regista is shortchanging us.

And if you mention Pirlo, Alonso etc, you will see that our own is Aba made version.

Other players who even have escort tendencies like Busquets and Rodri at least have strength and cannot be bullied off the ball, they can all travel with the ball on the half-turn for a few metres to push the team up and are also very useful aerially to stop teams going long to beat the midfield.

Our own regista cannot hustle like Veratti, cannot ping through passes like Pirlo and Alonso, cannot hold opponents off physically like Busquets and Rodri and cannot compete in the air like them either.

When our own regista is not escorting, players are running through his back and shading him off the ball to run directly at our defence. Oya, satisfy us with some long through passes like Pirlo, he no gree.

If we wanted a Regista with the pace and physical weakness of a 12 year old boy, we would have just kept Josh McEachran than waste our time.

People like to throw names of Pirlo and co around, but there have been many less successful registas in football. That's like associating every DM with Makelele or every right-back with Cafu. The name Regista does not automatically imply excellence. Many Spanish and Italian teams have been relegated with Registas playing in their middle. Borja Valero relegated West Brom playing there. Those are the registas we should be associating Jorginho with, not Pirlo.

popizaino:



Hope you will not change mouth when pep guardiola get back to winning ways ?

You and this your Fraudiola ehn. Make you no do like eruditor next season, thinking Fraudiola without Messi will repeat that feat at Barca, with City.

popizaino:



Hope you will not change mouth when pep guardiola get back to winning ways ?

Why won't he get back to winning ways with licence to spend a billion dollars

Kante, i need you back against those red idiots.