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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 4:08pm On Jul 15, 2020
sinizia:


I'm sorry lord OtemAtum; the giver of lives, fatterner of cows and fertilizer of crops; forgive my indiscretions, o cager of the old gods.

Tonight, you shall dine with the creamiest of oloshos Naija has to offer. Consider it my burnt offerings to you. cry cry cry

You have kolo finish kpatakpata.


How dare u think of desecrating otematum holy "gbola".

And for this:

Ye shall be caged in the most remote part of the earth.

Thy flesh shall be devoured by the most wicked earthlings.

Oh,thy mighty OtemAtum will have no mercy on thy wailings and "shalaye" for thou hath sinned in the eyes of Otematum.

For ye have no regards for his holy gbola.

undecided undecided

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OtemAtum: 4:10pm On Jul 15, 2020
iamoyindamola:

The god is angry cheesy
I didn't sound angry, did I? I'm just trying to let him know how valuable my mentions are to me. No qualms at all. cool

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by HewlettPackard: 4:34pm On Jul 15, 2020
airmark:

You guys need to start believing me o. cheesy
Raumdeuter please inform eruditor to honour his word. cheesy
Wow!

it's this same Erudit.. we are almost sending in a search party for.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 4:38pm On Jul 15, 2020
airmark where is your mcm running to here? What's he pointing at? cheesy grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nitrogen(m): 4:43pm On Jul 15, 2020
Ibime:



I don't think there is any valuation methodology that will work, much less one that will not contravene IFRS guidelines.

Intangible assets can only be revalued with reference to an active market and players contracts are likely too unique to benchmark against an active market. That's why we will carry someone like Drinkwater at his asset value (should be around £16m now ignoring salary element) rather than write him off and declare a £16m loss this year. We'll just let amortisation naturally impair him slowly until the end of his contract.




Well, I believe the income approach will be adopted very soon. You just estimate potential income and costs expected throughout the live of the asset (player's expected playing years) and discount it using an appropriate rate. This is commonly used for fair valuation of intangible assets. And what this means is that there is an acceptable methodology, and independent parties and auditors only need to evaluate the reasonableness of the assumptions for the estimates. At least, there will be some consistency.

Also, the precedent transactions analysis method will work. I compare Mbappe and Rashford, same age, both play at good clubs, output better for Mbappe, so maybe I can put a relatively lower valuation for Rashford vs Mbappe. Of course, it is quite subjective, but still reasonable.

These clubs should stop playing with their books.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OtemAtum: 4:48pm On Jul 15, 2020
Segedinho:


You have kolo finish kpatakpata.


How dare u think of desecrating otematum holy "gbola".

And for this:

Ye shall be caged in the most remote part of the earth.

Thy flesh shall be devoured by the most wicked earthlings.

Oh,thy mighty OtemAtum will have no mercy on thy wailings and "shalaye" for thou hath sinned in the eyes of Otematum.

For ye have no regards for his holy gbola.

undecided undecided
And another homo is disturbing my mention with unreasonable post. undecided You guys attach the word 'god' with destructions, killings, blablabla, instead of inventions and talents. Messi is a god of football, Otem is a god of history, so where does devouring and killings come up in this matter? Ignorance kills undecided

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 5:07pm On Jul 15, 2020
PDPGuy:
Chelsea wants to buy Oblak for 100 million pounds, and are offering Kepa as part of the deal!
However, I’m not sure Simeone would accept such a massive downgrade in his goalkeeping department
ATM probably have world class GK instructors that would beat Kepa into shape and turn him into a world beater. From De gea, to Courtois, and now Oblak.

Only if ATM accept the deal sha

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nitrogen(m): 5:10pm On Jul 15, 2020
Ibime:



Yes, they can set capitalisation benchmarks or in FFP case, profitability benchmarks but the accounts on which those benchmarks are aggregated are only subject to IFRS. Whereas it's easier for CBN to tie a bank to capitalisation metrics as those are usually focussed on current assets (usually Cash and <365 Receivables), profit is a more difficult metric to pin down especially in an industry like football whose profit figures are materially affected by disposal gains or losses and who have little short-term correlation between cashflow and profit. A football club could have £100m reduction in Cash and Receivables and still declare £200m profit in the same year. How do you pin that down?

I agree. Most regulators are focused on the balance sheet. Maybe another 'FFP' is needed. Something like cash from operations (CFO) must be between 50 and 70 percent of accounting profit. That way, a club wont over or under-estimate fair values of their players in their balance sheets.

Ibime:
Yes, they may charge a management fee within a Group Structure, or may apportion salaries across the different subs. Infact the management fee structure may allow them to sink overhead losses more safely in UAE than spread it around. How can UEFA regulate that?

Beyond overheads, you would be surprised to find they also put what you would consider traditional OPEX to parent and apportion later. I know of OPEX items for services my company provides to City that gets billed to Parent. It would be interesting to follow those OPEX down the line and see how they are apportioned between parent and subs.

There is never a standard MSA, so yes, you could easily play games and the regulator can do nothing. During a 6-month stint with a UAE-based PE firm, I structured a transaction where there was an arrangement for a holding company to charge fees based on the level of cashflows from the subsidiaries. Essentially, if you as a subsidiary generate more cashflows, you pay a higher tax deductible management fees. Well there could be pushbacks from the tax authorities sha. That one, you will resolve later. time value of money is key.

But then, I thought auditors try to define and check for reasonableness of some of these arrangements/contracts?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 5:17pm On Jul 15, 2020
eph12:
airmark where is your mcm running to here? What's he pointing at? cheesy grin

Since this picture will lift you out of the great depression that Obafemi punched you into, i have liked and shared this post.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 5:25pm On Jul 15, 2020
nipeks001:

You’re right

Jorginho is a systemic player- a misfit, but not a bad player. Jorginho would be a good fit for Man city where priority is moving the ball quickly. There’s a reason Guardiola preferred Busquet to Yaya Toure or Mascherano. There’s a reason Sarri is using Pjanic ahead of Matuidi or Jorginho ahead of Kante in a DM role. They play quick possession football and they favor players that can make quick accurate passes to play out from the back. While these kind of players make occasional tackles, their coaches know that Ball winning is not their strong point/priority in these teams and over looks it in favor of their passing ability. These kind of teams defend by keeping possession(the ball away from opposition) and TEAM press( Guardiola will bench Aguero for not pressing high before benching Rodri for being dribbled in a match), not by depending solely on Defensive players in the team. In Chelsea’s case, we are not so good at Team press, and that’s why players like Jorginho are exposed when we lose possession.

In all- Jorginho is not a bad player, but probably a bad misfit in this current team as what fans are demanding of him is not in his skill set. Play Pirlo in this current Chelsea system and he won’t get much joy


So many error in one post.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 5:29pm On Jul 15, 2020
nipeks001:

You’re right

Jorginho is a systemic player- a misfit, but not a bad player. Jorginho would be a good fit for Man city where priority is moving the ball quickly. There’s a reason Guardiola preferred Busquet to Yaya Toure or Mascherano. There’s a reason Sarri is using Pjanic ahead of Matuidi or Jorginho ahead of Kante in a DM role. They play quick possession football and they favor players that can make quick accurate passes to play out from the back. While these kind of players make occasional tackles, their coaches know that Ball winning is not their strong point/priority in these teams and over looks it in favor of their passing ability. These kind of teams defend by keeping possession(the ball away from opposition) and TEAM press( Guardiola will bench Aguero for not pressing high before benching Rodri for being dribbled in a match), not by depending solely on Defensive players in the team. In Chelsea’s case, we are not so good at Team press, and that’s why players like Jorginho are exposed when we lose possession.

In all- Jorginho is not a bad player, but probably a bad misfit in this current team as what fans are demanding of him is not in his skill set. Play Pirlo in this current Chelsea system and he won’t get much joy

Thank you very much. This is exactly my point. We Chelsea fans are just too quick to rubbish our players.
People think i just like unpopular opinions when in essence i am pointing out the truth. Jorginho is one of the best registas in the world right now.

The absurd thing about this is that since Lampard retired, Chelsea have not really been blessed with world class midfielders apart from maybe kante and we have one who is one of the best at what he does and we are so quick to rubbish him despite not having a better certified option. It's tiring.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 5:31pm On Jul 15, 2020
PDPGuy:
Chelsea wants to buy Oblak for 100 million pounds, and are offering Kepa as part of the deal!
However, I’m not sure Simeone would accept such a massive downgrade in his goalkeeping department

I saw this and was really happy. One can't just trust all these rumors sha. But at least it seems Lampard is ready to drop Kepa and that is the real joy here.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 5:53pm On Jul 15, 2020
''Liverpool will be presented with the Premier League Trophy after their match against Chelsea on Wednesday 22 July 2020''.

Na God's hand we dey now.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nezzjnr: 5:57pm On Jul 15, 2020
airmark:
''Liverpool will be presented with the Premier League Trophy after their match against Chelsea on Wednesday 22 July 2020''.

Na God's hand we dey now.

Collecting the trophy with a nice win

#YNWA

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 5:58pm On Jul 15, 2020
airmark:


Since this picture will lift you out of the great depression that Obafemi punched you into, i have liked and shared this post.

grin grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ShitStain(m): 6:06pm On Jul 15, 2020
donjazet:


I saw this and was really happy. One can't just trust all these rumors sha. But at least it seems Lampard is ready to drop Kepa and that is the real joy here.




Fabrizio rubbished the oblak to Chelsea rumour on Instagram as fake news.
So as it stands, we're still stuck with kepa
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 6:12pm On Jul 15, 2020
airmark:


Since this picture will lift you out of the great depression that Obafemi punched you into, i have liked and shared this post.
So even you don't know what's pursuing VVD there? Maybe raumdeuter will know sha grin grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nezzjnr: 6:22pm On Jul 15, 2020
Our bluuus let's accept the Fact

We can't beat Manu in the upcoming FA cup fixture

Let us focus on positive football abeg
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 6:23pm On Jul 15, 2020
"Jorginho is not a bad player, but.......but.....but..."

But kini undecided

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 6:33pm On Jul 15, 2020
BlueRayDick:
"Jorginho is not a bad player, but.......but.....but..."

But kini undecided
E be like say you store all our player pictures for your phone. smiley

Is there any player on this earth wey no get "but" or comma for him game?
Mention any perfect player wey you know.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 6:38pm On Jul 15, 2020
Nezzjnr:
Our bluuus let's accept the Fact

We can't beat Manu in the upcoming FA cup fixture

Let us focus on positive football abeg
You again? undecided

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 6:47pm On Jul 15, 2020
donjazet:


Thank you very much. This is exactly my point. We Chelsea fans are just too quick to rubbish our players.
People think i just like unpopular opinions when in essence i am pointing out the truth. Jorginho is one of the best registas in the world right now.

The absurd thing about this is that since Lampard retired, Chelsea have not really been blessed with world class midfielders apart from maybe kante and we have one who is one of the best at what he does and we are so quick to rubbish him despite not having a better certified option. It's tiring.


Repeating it won't make it true. Pls give up abeg.jorginho isn't what you're calling him and by the way I thought ibime warned you not to grow the word regista anyhow,pls for sanity sake don't use that word with jorginho abeg.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 6:50pm On Jul 15, 2020
donjazet:

E be like say you store all our player pictures for your phone. smiley

Is there any player on this earth wey no get "but" or comma for him game?
Mention any perfect player wey you know.

Jorginho na dirty abeg! I don't have strength to start going over the argument u had with Ibime all over again. They've shown u clips of him getting disposssesed easily by opposition defenders, getting shrugged off by opposition attackers and even his jogging ability when it is expected of him to sprint......

If all these things no convince u say he's not the right man for the job, I don't know what will.

Since u believe he's that good but people are only focusing on his "comma", mention those things he does well that endears u so much to him. I mean those attributes he possess that u think can make him rank 1-10 among the best midfielders in the EPL

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 6:51pm On Jul 15, 2020
izzou:

You again? undecided


Do u also "heart" Jorginho BackPassinho
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 6:56pm On Jul 15, 2020
Nothing to see here, just VVD and Gomez head butting each other during a routine set piece. Airmark has the full gist

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 6:57pm On Jul 15, 2020
BlueRayDick:


Do u also "heart" Jorginho BackPassinho

I quoted you wrongly

It was Mukinatu's babydaddy I wanted to quote
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 7:04pm On Jul 15, 2020
airmark skimpledawg and izzou legends cheesy
I am tired of Twitter honestly grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:12pm On Jul 15, 2020
eph12:

So even you don't know what's pursuing VVD there? Maybe rumdeuter will know sha grin grin grin

See the traffic warden, He will point other defenders to go collect dribble so he can preserve his own record of dem no dey dribbe me

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 7:16pm On Jul 15, 2020
Mourinho and st James park .

Let see who him and his fans would blame this time again.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 7:18pm On Jul 15, 2020
popizaino:



Repeating it won't make it true. Pls give up abeg.jorginho isn't what you're calling him and by the way I thought ibime warned you not to grow the word regista anyhow,pls for sanity sake don't use that word with jorginho abeg.

Isn't it funny that you reference someone who has constantly questioned your sanity?

Please pray tell, what was jorginho's role at naples?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 7:21pm On Jul 15, 2020
It's like the jinx is about to be broken.Then no even allow me comment finish.




Meanwhile hope the foolish William is seeing where that totteham attempted the cross from ?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:21pm On Jul 15, 2020
popizaino:
Mourinho and st James park .

Let see who him and his fans would blame this time again.

Spurs go win, Mourinho will die to make Europa as that next season Europa is a trophy for him to target and erase the Spurs trophyless story

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