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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 8:48pm On Jul 19, 2020
Maximus69:


The underlined is really nice and strengthening, you only need to move fast with Jehovah's Organization, you must be fast in declaring your stand because delay to do so is dangerous!

The key to identifying Jehovah's lost sheep is in that question "where is pure worship? or who are those practicing pure worship?"

Jesus was preaching and teaching throughout the districts of Judea (amongst the Jews) many ignored him and most people rejected him due to his poor and lowly background, now he's traveling to Samaria to preach the same message. While waiting for his disciples by Jacob's well one promiscuous Samaritan woman came to fetch water, Jews and Samaritans don't mingle together due to the long time strife between the divided nation, so when Jesus asked for a drink this woman questioned Jesus "sebi you Jews don't like having dealing with Samaritans, how come you a Jew asked me for a drink?" Jesus seized the opportunity to preach but the promiscuous woman thought Jesus (a young, handsome, impressive and charming looking man) is another toaster, so she asked Jesus to give her a better type of water that she won't need to be coming to fetch always, (she's imagining something else) so Jesus abruptly changed the topic of discussion by asking after her husband, she felt uneasy as this young guy is suddenly changing the sweet chat to something she doesn't want to discuss (her past life) so she quickly objects "i don't have a husband", then Jesus said something that must have shocked this woman "that's true because you've had five men in the past and even the one you're staying with now you don't really love him" this woman quickly sensed something fast this man must be a prophet . So she seized the opportunity to ask Jesus the question all sheep of Jehovah always want to find answer to "between the way our own people (Samaritans) worship and the way you people (Jews) worship, which one is approved by God?"

This woman (though promiscuous) became the first person Jesus openly told directly saying "I am the Christ"! John 4:7-26

So never hesitate to make yourself known from now on, pure worship has become what Jesus envisaged back then, it's now on the top that all other hills are looking at from below {Matthew 5:13-16} those who will listen will surely listen and those who will not certainly will never listen, however some of us plants others amongst us waters but it's Jehovah that keep making it grow!

Thanks, i got your email! smiley


Maximus69: where is pure worship? or who are those practicing pure worship?


Achorladey: Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, but you say that in Jerusalem is the place where people ought to worship.” 21 Jesus said to her, “Woman, believe me, the hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father. 22 You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him.

After extensive retelling of the account of John 4. First question up there no answer, The lengthy retelling of the account is to fit your own NARRATIVES.

Second question, who are those practising pure WORSHIP? Same of same. No answer.

One can only imagine what's the essence of the post and the QUESTIONS raised altogether.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 8:48pm On Jul 19, 2020
rabzy:


We don't need to drag this...all I have said and continued to say is...we can pass the message without getting dragged into quagmire of abuse and bad language.and also not to become righteous overmuch...you guys have done a great job defending the truth of the scriptures.

Just make sure you declare yourself one of those they are trying to treat with disgust that's all! Hebrew 11:25
This is faceless social media, whoever wants to learn will grasp the point and whoever wants to ridicule the truth will be kept in his/her place. wink
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 8:52pm On Jul 19, 2020
rabzy:


We don't need to drag this...all I have said and continued to say is...we can pass the message without getting dragged into quagmire of abuse and bad language.and also not to become righteous overmuch...you guys have done a great job defending the truth of the scriptures.

You have to try harder about hammering it down enough. It's been long they have been used to abuse and bad language. It won't wear off easily.

English Standard Version
Be not overly righteous, and do not make yourself too wise. Why should you destroy yourself?

Berean Study Bible
Do not be overly righteous, and do not make yourself too wise. Why should you destroy yourself?
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:02pm On Jul 19, 2020
TATIME:


The next 100 pages is not enough to keep telling everyone here that you're a shameless beggar on social media!

I don't accuse people falsely like you, it's what you did that i'm saying, so even if i must repeat it a million times, it's valid and true.

GRIMMJOE is a beggar, he was begging Maximus69 for money!
You don't mean it.

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:03pm On Jul 19, 2020
rabzy:


Declare the message 'anyhow' ...where is your reference for this please

Formal and informal remember? smiley smiley smiley
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:05pm On Jul 19, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
You don't mean it.

That's GRIMMJOE the fine beggar not so? cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:09pm On Jul 19, 2020
TATIME:

That's GRIMMJOE the fine beggar not so? cheesy cheesy cheesy
That's a meme.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:20pm On Jul 19, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
It's obvious TATIME is not an intelligent fellow, just like maximus69 I can easily drag them towards whatever direction I want.

Try to work on your intelligence, you can't expect people to be caged when you're insulting them as if you're the one feeding them.
Tatime promised to quit but you continue asking for more, yet you're now trying to tag me as if i'm the one controlling him.
Christians have the right to abuse, insult, accuse, ridicule and even beat you up if you misbehave.
Don't think because they're trying to live by what's written in the Bible so you have an edge to slap a Christian and walk away freely, if you try it many will beat and drag you in the mud.
So as i've told you from the start, respect is reciprocal, i never remembered you're the guy i chatted with back then not until he raised the issue now. If you've behaved yourself i'm sure Tatime won't get so messy with you.
For your information, he was my mentor before i joined this forum because i loved the way and manner he often present his speech.
So let's forget about this and continue as friendly neighbours, don't expect anyone to silence him for you, RESPECT IS RECIPROCAL undecided
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:30pm On Jul 19, 2020
[s]
Maximus69:


Try to work on your intelligence, you can't expect people to be caged when you're insulting them as if you're the one feeding them.
Tatime promised to quit but you continue asking for more, yet you're now trying to tag me as if i'm the one controlling him.
Christians have the right to abuse, insult, accuse, ridicule and even beat you up if you misbehave.
Don't think because they're trying to live by what's written in the Bible so you have an edge to slap a Christian and walk away freely, if you try it many will beat and drag you in the mud.
So as i've told you from the start, respect is reciprocal, i never remembered you're the guy i chatted with back then not until he raised the issue now. If you've behaved yourself i'm sure Tatime won't get so messy with you.
For your information, he was my mentor before i joined this forum because i loved the way and manner he often present his speech.
So let's forget about this and continue as friendly neighbours, don't expect anyone to silence him for you, RESPECT IS RECIPROCAL undecided [/s]
Tatime your mentor, explains why you're so dumb.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:32pm On Jul 19, 2020
Moving on.

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 10:15pm On Jul 19, 2020
So Maximus will be treated unequally-because of his background-his a Muslim murdering Christians-then he turned himself over to the Watchtower! Is there a difference
It is a well known fact to those who are familiar with Jehovah’s Witnesses that they forbid military service. They even forbid non-combat military service which has been a suitable alternative to conscientious objectors for many decades in this country.
While they can’t actually disfellowship someone for joining the military the Watchtower can and does disassociate them and treats them as if they were disfellowshipped.
Apparently the illegality of discriminating against someone who chooses to serve their country in military service directly affects what the Watchtower will and won’t do to their members.
So Maximus couldn't possibly be accepted-but unequal to any member of the Watchtower-a lost sheep ready for the slaughter...
Poor bugger...
TATIME:


What are you using to think when your brains are locked up in this TRINITY shit? embarassed embarassed embarassed

Maximus was a Muslim whose religion sees nothing wrong in military, he resigned when he wanted to become a Christian. Is that not what Apostle Paul was talking about? "And yet that is what some of you were before you became Christians" 1Corinthians 6:11

That's what made him X soldier if your brains isn't functioning! angry angry angry

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 10:57pm On Jul 19, 2020
false jw's brag about not joining the army
and yet girlie tatime brags about- glorifies mad max about when he was in the army

also they claim unity in belief, but one of them said:
"we no longer call ourself christian", and another said
"i'm a christian"

they are sure confused, them satan's mob:
1Co_14:33  For God is not a God of confusion but of peace. As in all the churches of the saints,

and of course they lie like hell:
Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

TATIME:


So you've been expecting a Soldier to retreat in the face of a bloody civilian like you? embarassed embarassed embarassed

Well i present to you once again Maximus the ex-military intelligence officer! smiley smiley smiley

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 12:38am On Jul 20, 2020
Peacefullove:


Ken this is the exact reason I said I finally hit you. You assumed the glorious body is a physical body , right ? Is it only fleshly body that exist ?

Jesus physical body wasn't transformed , he was given a Spiritual body.

Ressurection


1 Corinthians 15:45 " It is planted as a physical body. It comes back to life as a spiritual body. As there is a physical body, so there is also a spiritual body. "

You assumed the body was a physical one , the above shows you lied ... Paul said the ressurection body is a Spiritual one. A Spiritual body IS NOT PHYSICAL. Which killed your point.


What Jesus appeared with after his resurrection is a Materialized body , it was borrowed, , Just as Angels manifest in the past. His real ressurection body is not Human or physical , its Spiritual. .

who is the liar but you false jw's

Jesus rose from the dead in His flesh body:

Luk 24:36  As they were talking about these things, Jesus himself stood among them, and said to them, “Peace to you!” 
Luk 24:37  But they were startled and frightened and thought they saw a spirit
Luk 24:38  And he said to them, “Why are you troubled, and why do doubts arise in your hearts? 
Luk 24:39  See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself. Touch me, and see. For a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have. 
Luk 24:40  And when he had said this, he showed them his hands and his feet.



Jesus changed from flesh to Spirit just before He ascended up to the clouds
just as those in Christ will be changed from flesh to Spirit just before they ascended
to meet Christ in the clouds at His second coming:

Act 1:9  And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

1Th 4:14  For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 
1Th 4:15  For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 
1Th 4:16  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 
1Th 4:17  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Peacefullove: 12:42am On Jul 20, 2020
johnw47:




who is the liar but you false jw's

Jesus rose from the dead in His flesh body:

Luk 24:36  As they were talking about these things, Jesus himself stood among them, and said to them, “Peace to you!” 
Luk 24:37  But they were startled and frightened and thought they saw a spirit
Luk 24:38  And he said to them, “Why are you troubled, and why do doubts arise in your hearts? 
Luk 24:39  See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself. Touch me, and see. For a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have. 
Luk 24:40  And when he had said this, he showed them his hands and his feet.



Jesus changed from flesh to Spirit just before He ascended up to the clouds


just as those in Christ will be changed from flesh to Spirit just before they ascended
to meet Christ in the clouds at His second coming:

Act 1:9  And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

1Co 15:50  Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 
1Co 15:51  Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 
1Co 15:52  In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 
1Co 15:53  For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

1Th 4:14  For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 
1Th 4:15  For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 
1Th 4:16  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 
1Th 4:17  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 

The same thing angels do @highlighted , what do you call the human body angels have before they change ?
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 12:47am On Jul 20, 2020
Peacefullove:


The same thing angels do @highlighted , what do you call the human body angels have before they change ?

oh duh that's confused, just believe God's word, which i know is impossible
with you satan's mob

Jesus ressurected in His flesh body:

Luk 24:39 See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself. Touch me, and see. For a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Peacefullove: 12:50am On Jul 20, 2020
johnw47:


oh duh that's confused, just believe God's word, which i know is impossible
with you satan's mob

Jesus rose in His flesh body:

Luk 24:39 See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself. Touch me, and see. For a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have.

A fleshly body without Blood is not Jesus real body. Its a body materialized like angels.


A fleshly body MUST have blood.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 12:55am On Jul 20, 2020
Peacefullove:


A fleshly body without Blood is not Jesus real body. Its a body materialized like angels.


A fleshly body MUST have blood.

so duh, God's word does not say Jesus body had no blood
he did lose much blood from the spear in the side
which is why he said to the apostles, have you some food to eat
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:47am On Jul 20, 2020
We all can see how TATIME and Maximus69 couldn't stand the test of time, all false doctrine will and shall be crushed by the truth.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 8:54am On Jul 20, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
[s] Tatime your mentor, explains why you're so dumb.

You see what i mean! undecided

What if i begin referring to you as beggar from now?

Do you think anything can stop me from addressing you "beggar"?

Tatime reminded me that you're the same beggar asking for assistance the other day, but i thought it's not pleasant reminding you of such considering how you've been so noisy on this thread but i was wrong, GRIMMJOE you are the most stupid person i've ever met on Nairaland.
Someone begging for money ought to be respectful and not haughty like you, meanwhile i'll start calling you beggar henceforth! grin
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 8:57am On Jul 20, 2020
GRIMMJOE:

We all can see how TATIME and Maximus69 couldn't stand the test of time, all false doctrine will and shall be crushed by the truth.

The underlined speaks in volume Grimmjoe Beggar, because there was never a "WE" as in collective beggars nor atheists like you.
All commentators on this thread believes in the existence of God, so you're alone in your madness, beggar! cheesy
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rabzy: 9:12am On Jul 20, 2020
TATIME:


Formal and informal remember? smiley smiley smiley


Formal and informer yes...caustic abusive language...no no no
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:15am On Jul 20, 2020
brocab:
So Maximus will be treated unequally-because of his background-his a Muslim murdering Christians-then he turned himself over to the Watchtower! Is there a difference
It is a well known fact to those who are familiar with Jehovah’s Witnesses that they forbid military service. They even forbid non-combat military service which has been a suitable alternative to conscientious objectors for many decades in this country.
While they can’t actually disfellowship someone for joining the military the Watchtower can and does disassociate them and treats them as if they were disfellowshipped.
Apparently the illegality of discriminating against someone who chooses to serve their country in military service directly affects what the Watchtower will and won’t do to their members.
So Maximus couldn't possibly be accepted-but unequal to any member of the Watchtower-a lost sheep ready for the slaughter...
Poor bugger...

Jesus commanded us not to defend our country when nations are struggling for dominance {Matthew 24:15-16} he also asked us not to take up weapons against constituted authorities {Matthew 26:52} So look at Jehovah's Witnesses Organization again before your accusations! Revelations 12:10 smiley
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:22am On Jul 20, 2020
Maximus69:


You see what i mean! undecided

What if i begin referring to you as beggar from now?

Do you think anything can stop me from addressing you "beggar"?

Tatime reminded me that you're the same beggar asking for assistance the other day, but i thought it's not pleasant reminding you of such considering how you've been so noisy on this thread but i was wrong, GRIMMJOE you are the most stupid person i've ever met on Nairaland.
Someone begging for money ought to be respectful and not haughty like you, meanwhile i'll start calling you beggar henceforth! grin

Go and shave your wife vagina, simp.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:23am On Jul 20, 2020
Maximus69:


The underlined speaks in volume Grimmjoe Beggar, because there was never a "WE" as in collective beggars nor atheists like you.
All commentators on this thread believes in the existence of God, so you're alone in your madness, beggar! cheesy
Then why are you so pained and disturbed.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:27am On Jul 20, 2020
rabzy:


Formal and informer yes...caustic abusive language...no no no
What do you expect, the Bible encourages insults and is also very insultive, a lot of religious books are.

Infidels, fools and so many insults with the aim of belittling others with different believes and present their self as superior.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:28am On Jul 20, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
Then why are you so pained and disturbed.

Don't worry i'm sure Tatime has gone to work but he'll soon be back to continue lashing you as you deserve, beggar! cheesy

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:39am On Jul 20, 2020
rabzy:


Formal and informer yes...caustic abusive language...no no no

The caustic abusive speech is not to be heard from Christians because people in our neighbourhood know our faces and most of them call us Pastor even after objecting several times.
But on faceless social media, there is no such rules, whoever insult me for chatting friendly with others i'll rubbish such a person double fold.
Nobody is seeing your face here, is that not the reason that stupid, worthless, hopeless, useless, sadistic, jobless beggar claiming GRIMMJOE has been typing abusive speeches even after begging me for money?
If not for Tatime who reminded me, how could i have known that it's the same person who begged for financial assistance that's been insulting me simply because i believe in God? smiley
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:40am On Jul 20, 2020
Maximus69:


Don't worry i'm sure Tatime has gone to work but he'll soon be back to continue lashing you as you deserve, beggar! cheesy
See when real men are talking a simp shouldn't get involve.

By the way did you learn how to shave vagina from your mentor Tatime.

Should I start calling you Maximus the vagina shaver.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:44am On Jul 20, 2020
Maximus69:


The caustic abusive speech is not to be heard from Christians because people in our neighbourhood know our faces and most of them call us Pastor even after objecting several times.
But on faceless social media, there is no such rules, whoever insult me for chatting friendly with others i'll rubbish such a person double fold.
Nobody is seeing your face here, is that not the reason that stupid, worthless, hopeless, useless, sadistic, jobless beggar claiming GRIMMJOE has been typing abusive speeches even after begging me for money?
If not for Tatime who reminded me, how could i have known that it's the same person who begged for financial assistance that's been insulting me simply because i believe in God? smiley
As usual, when their intelligence fail them, they turn to insult, keep firing nothing do you, I'm sure Jesus will be proud.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:47am On Jul 20, 2020
Maximus i need a shave, how do we go about it.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:50am On Jul 20, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
See when real men are talking a simp shouldn't get involve.

By the way did you learn how to shave vagina from your mentor Tatime.

Should I start calling you Maximus the vagina shaver.

Call me Maximus the shaver of Trivina's virgina!

She's my QUEEN so we (Trivina and i) both go intimate as in really INTIMATE, unlike you with no life, beggar! cheesy
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:52am On Jul 20, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
As usual, when their intelligence fail them, they turn to insult, keep firing nothing do you, I'm sure Jesus will be proud.

See wèrè, so you now acknowledge Jesus is real shey?

Truly miracles do happen if one gets messy with unbelievers! cheesy

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