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This Is What/who To Preach by KNOWMORE56: 4:55pm On Jul 19, 2020
The preaching of the gospel is the only means by which human beings will be delivered from the hold of sin, self and Satan.

It is important we know what the preaching of the gospel is all about.

It is all about Jesus Christ: His birth, death burial and resurrection.

Telling somebody this story destroys the power of Satan, sin and self in the lives of them who believe it.

The summary of the story (i.e Jesus' birth, death, burial and resurrection) is that Jesus is the Son of God.

After you end up telling somebody this story, ask him DO YOU BELIEVE THAT JESUS CHRIST IS THE SON OF GOD?

If he/she answers YES, I BELIEVE; he/she is saved.

No sacrifices, fasting or anything else is needed for the sinner to be saved.

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Re: This Is What/who To Preach by KNOWMORE56: 5:07pm On Jul 19, 2020
So, whatever form of evangelism you are using, if you don't tell this story (Jesus' birth, death, burial and resurrection); you have just wasted your time.

Other things are called teachings, which should be done after the person conversation/salvation.

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Re: This Is What/who To Preach by Kobojunkie: 5:14pm On Jul 19, 2020
KNOWMORE56:


If he/she answers YES, I BELIEVE; he/she is saved.

No sacrifices, fasting or anything else is needed for the sinner to be saved.


that is not true though
Re: This Is What/who To Preach by KNOWMORE56: 5:25pm On Jul 19, 2020
Teachings don't save sinners. Teachings give more knowledge of the Way.

And it should be done to those who have accepted Jesus as LORD AND SAVIOUR.

TRINITY is not for unbelievers but believers.

No matter how many times unbelievers try to understand it, they will only have confusion.

The 1st thing to do is to believe!

*. Hebrews 11:6 "KJV:But without faith it is impossible to please him: for HE that cometh to God MUST BELIEVE that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

NOTE: the Bible says he/you must believe!

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Re: This Is What/who To Preach by KNOWMORE56: 5:29pm On Jul 19, 2020
[quote author=Kobojunkie post=91879558] that is not true though [/quote


Post the truth let us know.
It's not enough to say 'that is not true though'

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Re: This Is What/who To Preach by KNOWMORE56: 5:44pm On Jul 19, 2020
Let's see what the evangelists in the Bible tell their audiences:

1. PETER AT PENTECOST:

*. Acts 2:22 "KJV:Ye men of Israel, hear these words; JESUS OF NAZARETH, A MAN APPROVED of GOD among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:
23
KJV: HIM, BEING DELIVERED by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:
24
KJV: WHOM GOD HATH RAISED UP, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.

verse 32 "KJV: THIS JESUS HATH GOD RAISED UP, whereof WE ALL ARE WITNESSES

Verse 36 "KJV:Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made THE SAME JESUS, WHOM YE HAVE CRUCIFIED, both Lord and Christ.
37
KJV:Now when they heard this, THEY were pricked in their heart, and SAID UNTO PETER and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, WHAT SHALL WE DO?

NOTE: after the story, THEY SAID UNTO PETER, WHAT SHALL WE DO?

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Re: This Is What/who To Preach by Kobojunkie: 8:05pm On Jul 20, 2020
Oh, He is absolutely real alright but His Salvation comes at a cost. And those who want it ought to understand the cost and be willing to pay it. There is no cutting corners to get at it and there is no 419 way to it.
No one can become a follower of Jesus Christ simply by wishing for it. Jesus required that those who choose to follow Him do the work that He commands they first do.

1. Be prepared to abandon parents, brother, sister, children, spouse, in-laws, e.t.c.
2. Abandon all that you know/believe, have, and all that you are
3. Bear your own burden (not someone else's cross- not even your family's or children's)

Matthew 10 vs 34-39
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34. “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace. I came to bring trouble.[h]
35. I have come to make this happen:
‘A son will turn against his father.
A daughter will turn against her mother.
A daughter-in-law will turn against her mother-in-law.
36. Even members of your own family will be your enemies.’
37. “Those who love their father or mother more than they love me are not worthy of me. And those who love their son or daughter more than they love me are not worthy of me.
38. Those who will not accept the cross that is given to them when they follow me are not worthy of me.
39. Those who try to keep the life they have will lose it. But those who give up their life for me will find true life.

4. Become a child again in your thinking and your actions

Matthew 14 vs 23-24
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3. Then he said, “The truth is, you must change your thinking and become like little children. If you don’t do this, you will never enter God’s kingdom.
4. The greatest person in God’s kingdom is the one who makes himself humble like this child.
5. Be prepared to lose life(reputation, career, control, property, etc.)
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Matthew 16 vs 24-27
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24. Then Jesus said to his followers, “If any of you want to be my follower, you must stop thinking about yourself and what you want. You must be willing to carry the cross that is given to you for following me.
25. Any of you who try to save the life you have will lose it. But you who give up your life for me will find true life.
26. It is worth nothing for you to have the whole world if you yourself are lost. You could never pay enough to buy back your life.
27. The Son of Man will come again with his Father’s glory and with his angels. And he will reward everyone for what they have done.

6. Desire above all to find and enter the Kingdom of God and also walk the path of righteousness, with God as your guide every step
7. Let go of all control you have over your life and circumstances, allowing God to take care of your every need

Matthew 6 vs 31-34
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25. “So I tell you, don’t worry about the things you need to live—what you will eat, drink, or wear. Life is more important than food, and the body is more important than what you put on it.
26. Look at the birds. They don’t plant, harvest, or save food in barns, but your heavenly Father feeds them. Don’t you know you are worth much more than they are?
27. You cannot add any time to your life by worrying about it.
28. “And why do you worry about clothes? Look at the wildflowers in the field. See how they grow. They don’t work or make clothes for themselves.
29. But I tell you that even Solomon, the great and rich king, was not dressed as beautifully as one of these flowers.
30. If God makes what grows in the field so beautiful, what do you think he will do for you? It’s just grass—one day it’s alive, and the next day someone throws it into a fire. But God cares enough to make it beautiful. Surely he will do much more for you. Your faith is so small!
31. “Don’t worry and say, ‘What will we eat?’ or ‘What will we drink?’ or ‘What will we wear?’
32. That’s what those people who don’t know God are always thinking about. Don’t worry, because your Father in heaven knows that you need all these things.
33. What you should want most is God’s kingdom and doing what he wants you to do. Then he will give you all these other things you need.
34. So don’t worry about tomorrow. Each day has enough trouble of its own. Tomorrow will have its own worries.
Re: This Is What/who To Preach by KNOWMORE56: 10:08am On Jul 21, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Oh, He is absolutely real alright but His Salvation comes at a cost. And those who want it ought to understand the cost and be willing to pay it. There is no cutting corners to get at it and there is no 419 way to it.
No one can become a follower of Jesus Christ simply by wishing for it. Jesus required that those who choose to follow Him do the work that He commands they first do.

1. Be prepared to abandon parents, brother, sister, children, spouse, in-laws, e.t.c.
2. Abandon all that you know/believe, have, and all that you are
3. Bear your own burden (not someone else's cross- not even your family's or children's)


4. Become a child again in your thinking and your actions

5. Be prepared to lose life(reputation, career, control, property, etc.)



Matthew 16 vs 24-27
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24. Then Jesus said to his followers, “If any of you want to be my follower, you must stop thinking about yourself and what you want. You must be willing to carry the cross that is given to you for following me.
25. Any of you who try to save the life you have will lose it. But you who give up your life for me will find true life.
26. It is worth nothing for you to have the whole world if you yourself are lost. You could never pay enough to buy back your life.
27. The Son of Man will come again with his Father’s glory and with his angels. And he will reward everyone for what they have done.


6. Desire above all to find and enter the Kingdom of God and also walk the path of righteousness, with God as your guide every step
7. Let go of all control you have over your life and circumstances, allowing God to take care of your every need

Matthew 6 vs 31-34
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25. “So I tell you, don’t worry about the things you need to live—what you will eat, drink, or wear. Life is more important than food, and the body is more important than what you put on it.
26. Look at the birds. They don’t plant, harvest, or save food in barns, but your heavenly Father feeds them. Don’t you know you are worth much more than they are?
27. You cannot add any time to your life by worrying about it.
28. “And why do you worry about clothes? Look at the wildflowers in the field. See how they grow. They don’t work or make clothes for themselves.
29. But I tell you that even Solomon, the great and rich king, was not dressed as beautifully as one of these flowers.
30. If God makes what grows in the field so beautiful, what do you think he will do for you? It’s just grass—one day it’s alive, and the next day someone throws it into a fire. But God cares enough to make it beautiful. Surely he will do much more for you. Your faith is so small!
31. “Don’t worry and say, ‘What will we eat?’ or ‘What will we drink?’ or ‘What will we wear?’
32. That’s what those people who don’t know God are always thinking about. Don’t worry, because your Father in heaven knows that you need all these things.
33. What you should want most is God’s kingdom and doing what he wants you to do. Then he will give you all these other things you need.
34. So don’t worry about tomorrow. Each day has enough trouble of its own. Tomorrow will have its own worries.



Ok, you try.

Are you an evangelist? Preach Jesus' birth, death and resurrection. That's what saves sinner from sin, Satan and self.

This your submission is for converted souls, for the growth of their faith.

It's called teaching.

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Re: This Is What/who To Preach by KNOWMORE56: 10:21am On Jul 21, 2020
2. PETER AT SOLOMON'S PORCH:

*. Acts 3:

"12
KJV:And when Peter saw it, he answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel, why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk?


13
KJV:The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the GOD of our fathers, hath GLORIFIED HIS SON JESUS; WHOM YE DELIVERED UP, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.


14
KJV:But YE DENIED THE HOLY ONE AND THE JUST, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you;

15
KJV: AND KILLED THE PRINCE OF LIFE, WHOM GOD HATH RAISED FROM THE DEAD; whereof we are witnesses.


16
KJV:And his name through faith in his name hath made this man strong, whom ye see and know: yea, THE FAITH WHICH IS BY HIM HATH GIVEN HIM THIS PERFECT SOUNDNESS in the presence of you all.

26
KJV:Unto you first GOD, HAVING RAISED UP HIS SON JESUS, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of YOU FROM his INIQUITIES.

Preach Jesus to sinners!
Re: This Is What/who To Preach by KNOWMORE56: 10:49am On Jul 21, 2020
Let's see something from John 3:16
*.
KJV:For GOD so loved the world, that he gave his ONLY begotten SON, that whosoever believeth in him should not PERISH, but have EVERLASTING LIFE.

NOTE! one of the reasons this verse is the best in preaching the gospel it's because it summarizes the long story.

In John 3:16 we have all the words that form the word GOSPEL:

G= God
O= Only
S= Son
P= PERISH
E= Everlasting
L= Life

i.e GOD ONLY SON PERISH ( that humanity should have) EVERLASTING LIFE.

whoever believes this he's saved.

From that moment it's expected of him to start living the new life in CHRIST.

The new life is that if you used to steal don't do that again,

*. Ephesians 4:28 "KJV: LET HIM THAT STOLE STEAL NO MORE: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.

In summary, EVERYTHING about you must change.

Female often argue about clothes.

But by the grace of God I have understood that even your styles of clothes must change.

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Re: This Is What/who To Preach by Kobojunkie: 5:24pm On Jul 21, 2020
KNOWMORE56:
Ok, you try.
Are you an evangelist?
I am a follower of Jesus Christ.
KNOWMORE56:
Preach Jesus' birth, death and resurrection. That's what saves sinner from sin, Satan and self.
Jesus Christ never preached His own birth, let alone His own death and resurrection though. This is included in the gospels by those who were witnesses. But what He did teach was the New Covenant commandments and what we must do in order to become worthy of Him, and to remain in His love, and eventually enter into His kingdom.
KNOWMORE56:
This your submission is for converted souls, for the growth of their faith.
It's called teaching.
Wrong! If you bothered to read what Jesus Christ included in that passage, you will see that it clearly states there that these are things He commands that sinners do in order to become worthy of Him... i.e. in order to become His followers.

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Re: This Is What/who To Preach by KNOWMORE56: 8:12pm On Jul 21, 2020
Kobojunkie:
I am a follower of Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ never preached His own birth, let alone His own death and resurrection though. This is included in the gospels by those who were witnesses. But what He did teach was the New Covenant commandments and what we must do in order to become worthy of Him, and to remain in His love, and eventually enter into His kingdom.
Wrong! If you bothered to read what Jesus Christ included in that passage, you will see that it clearly states there that these are things He commands that sinners do in order to become worthy of Him... i.e. in order to become His followers.

Let's see what Jesus Christ said to those who have not believe on the Son of God (i.e to sinners):

*. John 6:28 "KJV:Then said they unto him, WHAT SHALL WE DO, THAT WE MIGHT WORK THE WORKS OF GOD?

29
KJV: JESUS ANSWERED and said unto them, This is THE WORK OF GOD, THAT YE BELIEVE ON HIM WHOM HE HATH SENT.

So, as you can see, the work sinners have to do is to believe on the son of God.

While believers have to go unto perfection:

*. Hebrews 6:1 "
KJV:Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, LET US GO ON UNTO PERFECTION; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

Human beings don't have the ability/power to do good acceptable in the sight of God.

When someone believes that Jesus is the son of God, he's given the power/ability to do good acceptable to God.

It's because of the above that Jesus said without Him you can do nothing:

*. John 15:5 "KJV:I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

Another place said that Jesus gives power/ability to do good acceptable to God:

*. John 1:12 "KJV:But as many as received him, TO THEM GAVE HE POWER TO BECOME THE SONS OF GOD, even to them that believe on his name:

THANKS

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Re: This Is What/who To Preach by Kobojunkie: 8:27pm On Jul 21, 2020
KNOWMORE56:
Let's see what Jesus Christ said to those who have not believe on the Son of God (i.e to sinners):
*. John 6:28 "KJV:Then said they unto him, WHAT SHALL WE DO, THAT WE MIGHT WORK THE WORKS OF GOD?
29KJV: JESUS ANSWERED and said unto them, This is THE WORK OF GOD, THAT YE BELIEVE ON HIM WHOM HE HATH SENT.
So, as you can see, the work sinners have to do is to believe on the son of God.
While believers have to go unto perfection:
So you are saying that all sinners need to do is believe Jesus Christ but not do what it is that the one they believe in says they must do then? undecided

John 14:6(ERV)
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15 “If you love me, you will do what I command.
16 I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper[a] to be with you forever.
17 The Helper is the Spirit of truth. The people of the world cannot accept him, because they don’t see him or know him. But you know him. He lives with you, and he will be in you.

18 “I will not leave you all alone like orphans. I will come back to you.
19 In a very short time the people in the world will not see me anymore. But you will see me. You will live because I live.
20 On that day you will know that I am in the Father. You will know that you are in me and I am in you.
21 Those who really love me are the ones who not only know my commands but also obey them. My Father will love such people, and I will love them. I will make myself known to them.”
Re: This Is What/who To Preach by KNOWMORE56: 8:48pm On Jul 21, 2020
Kobojunkie:
I am a follower of Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ never preached His own birth, let alone His own death and resurrection though. This is included in the gospels by those who were witnesses. But what He did teach was the New Covenant commandments and what we must do in order to become worthy of Him, and to remain in His love, and eventually enter into His kingdom.
Wrong! If you bothered to read what Jesus Christ included in that passage, you will see that it clearly states there that these are things He commands that sinners do in order to become worthy of Him... i.e. in order to become His followers.

This your opinion
JESUS CHRIST NEVER PREACHED HIS OWN BIRTH, let alone His own death and resurrection though. This is included in the gospels by those who were witnesses.

Below are some places Jesus preached about His own birth, death and resurrection;

Or better still, I would like to know what you understand from the following verses:

*. Matthew 12:40 "KJV:For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; SO SHALL THE SON OF MAN BE THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS IN THE HEART OF THE EARTH.

*. John 10:10 "KJV:The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I AM COME that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

NOTE! I AM COME can also means I AM BORN

*. John 3:14 "KJV:And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, EVEN SO MUST THE SON OF MAN BE LIFTED UP:

*. John 12:32 "
KJV:And I, if I BE LIFTED UP FROM THE EARTH, will draw all men unto me.

*. John 2:19 "KJV:Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I WILL RAISE it UP.

22
KJV: WHEN THEREFORE HE WAS RISEN FROM THE DEAD, HIS DISCIPLES REMEMBERED THAT HE HAD SAID THIS UNTO THEM; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.

can you please give me your understanding of the above?
Re: This Is What/who To Preach by Kobojunkie: 8:53pm On Jul 21, 2020
KNOWMORE56:

This your opinion
JESUS CHRIST NEVER PREACHED HIS OWN BIRTH, let alone His own death and resurrection though. This is included in the gospels by those who were witnesses.
Below are some places Jesus preached about His own birth, death and resurrection;
Or better still, I would like to know what you understand from the following verses:
*. Matthew 12:40 "KJV:For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; SO SHALL THE SON OF MAN BE THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS IN THE HEART OF THE EARTH.
*. John 10:10 "KJV:The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I AM COME that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
NOTE! I AM COME can also means I AM BORN
*. John 3:14 "KJV:And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, EVEN SO MUST THE SON OF MAN BE LIFTED UP:
*. John 12:32 "
KJV:And I, if I BE LIFTED UP FROM THE EARTH, will draw all men unto me.
*. John 2:19 "KJV:Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I WILL RAISE it UP.
22
KJV: WHEN THEREFORE HE WAS RISEN FROM THE DEAD, HIS DISCIPLES REMEMBERED THAT HE HAD SAID THIS UNTO THEM; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.
can you please give me your understanding of the above?
He prophesied about His death and resurrection maybe, but did not teach them.
Here's a question for you to ponder. Did Jesus Christ teach of his birth, death and resurrection to His disciples as well to get them to believe in Him? : undecided
Did He teach about His birth, death and resurrection to Nicodemus, and even the Rich man who eventually could not stomach loosing His all on behalf of Christ? undecided
Re: This Is What/who To Preach by KNOWMORE56: 9:11pm On Jul 21, 2020
Kobojunkie:
So you are saying that all sinners need to do is believe Jesus Christ but not do what it is that the one they believe in says they must do then? undecided


Teachings don't save sinners. Teachings give more knowledge of the Way.

And it should be done to those who have accepted Jesus as LORD AND SAVIOUR.

Below is what Paul received and that's what he gave to sinners:

*. 1 Corinthians 15 1 "KJV:Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you THE GOSPEL WHICH I PREACHED UNTO YOU, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;


2
KJV: BY WHICH ALSO YE ARE SAVED, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.


3
KJV:For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, HOW THAT CHRIST DIED FOR OUR SINS according to the scriptures;


4
KJV:And that HE WAS BURIED, and that HE ROSE AGAIN the third day according to the scriptures:

5
KJV:And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:

NOTE: THE ABOVE IS THE ONLY STORY THAT SAVE THE SINNERS!

Other teachings are meant to grow their faith;

that we should not be tossed to and fro:

*. Ephesians 4:14 "KJV: THAT WE HENCEFORTH BE NO MORE CHILDREN, TOSSED TO AND FRO, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
Re: This Is What/who To Preach by Kobojunkie: 9:15pm On Jul 21, 2020
KNOWMORE56:
Teachings don't save sinners. Teachings give more knowledge of the Way.
What do you mean when you say "save" in relation to a sinner?
KNOWMORE56:
And it should be done to those who have accepted Jesus as LORD AND SAVIOUR.
Other teachings are meant to grow their faith;
When Jesus Christ sent His disciples out to preach the good news of the Kingdom, what do you think He sent them out to do? Preach the same things He had taught to them? Or Make up new stuff to lure people in?
Re: This Is What/who To Preach by KNOWMORE56: 9:45pm On Jul 21, 2020
One of the reasons for this topic is the way some people came to my house.

They asked me if I knew the personal name of the only true God.

I was like ' what kind of gospel preaching is this'

I think they are Janosky and Maximus69's brothers.

Another set came in and said

' if you have lost anyone of your relatives don't worry, they are all going to resurrect '

I tried to put them through by telling them that they are coming back to their houses,

they are resurrected to face judgement.

Christians should not do that.

If you don't know what to say, just tell them the story about how you are saved from sin.
Re: This Is What/who To Preach by Kobojunkie: 9:50pm On Jul 21, 2020
KNOWMORE56:
One of the reasons for this topic is the way some people came to my house.
They asked me if I knew the personal name of the only true God.
I was like ' what kind of gospel preaching is this'
I think they are Janosky and Maximus69's brothers.
Another set came in and said
' if you have lost anyone of your relatives don't worry, they are all going to resurrect '
I tried to put them through by telling them that they are coming back to their houses,
they are resurrected to face judgement.
Christians should not do that.
If you don't know what to say, just tell them the story about how you are saved from sin.
Anyone who does not know how to teach exactly what Jesus Christ taught, has no business preaching to anyone. Do you know why it took at least 3 years for the apostles to be ready to go out to teach the world(after receiving the Spirit of God that is) of Jesus Christ? undecided
Did you know that Paul also had to wait several years before he went out to preach to others? undecided

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Re: This Is What/who To Preach by KNOWMORE56: 6:52am On Jul 22, 2020
3. PETER AND JOHN BEFORE THE
COUNCIL:
*. Acts 4:2 "
KJV:Being grieved that they taught the people, and PREACHED through JESUS THE RESURRECTION FROM THE DEAD.

10
KJV:Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that BY THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST of Nazareth, WHOM YE CRUCIFIED, whom God RAISED FROM THE DEAD, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.


11
KJV:This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become THE HEAD OF THE CORNER.


12
KJV: NEITHER IS THERE SALVATION IN ANY OTHER: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, WHEREBY WE MUST BE SAVED.


NOTE: the above is the story that saves
sinners from Satan, sin and self.

Tell sinners this story!
Re: This Is What/who To Preach by KNOWMORE56: 6:56am On Jul 22, 2020
Kobojunkie:
He prophesied about His death and resurrection maybe, but did not teach them.
Here's a question for you to ponder. Did Jesus Christ teach of his birth, death and resurrection to His disciples as well to get them to believe in Him? : undecided
Did He teach about His birth, death and resurrection to Nicodemus, and even the Rich man who eventually could not stomach loosing His all on behalf of Christ? undecided


Let's see what the evangelists in the Bible tell their audiences:

1. PETER AT PENTECOST:

*. Acts 2:22 "KJV:Ye men of Israel, hear these words; JESUS OF NAZARETH, A MAN APPROVED of GOD among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:
23
KJV: HIM, BEING DELIVERED by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:
24
KJV: WHOM GOD HATH RAISED UP, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.

verse 32 "KJV: THIS JESUS HATH GOD RAISED UP, whereof WE ALL ARE WITNESSES

Verse 36 "KJV:Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made THE SAME JESUS, WHOM YE HAVE CRUCIFIED, both Lord and Christ.
37
KJV:Now when they heard this, THEY were pricked in their heart, and SAID UNTO PETER and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, WHAT SHALL WE DO?

NOTE: after the story, THEY SAID UNTO PETER, WHAT SHALL WE DO?

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Re: This Is What/who To Preach by KNOWMORE56: 6:59am On Jul 22, 2020
Kobojunkie:
What do you mean when you say "save" in relation to a sinner?
When Jesus Christ sent His disciples out to preach the good news of the Kingdom, what do you think He sent them out to do? Preach the same things He had taught to them? Or Make up new stuff to lure people in?




2. PETER AT SOLOMON'S PORCH:

*. Acts 3:

"12
KJV:And when Peter saw it, he answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel, why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk?


13
KJV:The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the GOD of our fathers, hath GLORIFIED HIS SON JESUS; WHOM YE DELIVERED UP, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.


14
KJV:But YE DENIED THE HOLY ONE AND THE JUST, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you;

15
KJV: AND KILLED THE PRINCE OF LIFE, WHOM GOD HATH RAISED FROM THE DEAD; whereof we are witnesses.


16
KJV:And his name through faith in his name hath made this man strong, whom ye see and know: yea, THE FAITH WHICH IS BY HIM HATH GIVEN HIM THIS PERFECT SOUNDNESS in the presence of you all.

26
KJV:Unto you first GOD, HAVING RAISED UP HIS SON JESUS, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of YOU FROM his INIQUITIES.

Preach Jesus to sinners!

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Re: This Is What/who To Preach by KNOWMORE56: 7:01am On Jul 22, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Anyone who does not know how to teach exactly what Jesus Christ taught, has no business preaching to anyone. Do you know why it took at least 3 years for the apostles to be ready to go out to teach the world(after receiving the Spirit of God that is) of Jesus Christ? undecided
Did you know that Paul also had to wait several years before he went out to preach to others? undecided




3. PETER AND JOHN BEFORE THE
COUNCIL:


*. Acts 4:2 "
KJV:Being grieved that they taught the people, and PREACHED through JESUS THE RESURRECTION FROM THE DEAD.

10
KJV:Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that BY THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST of Nazareth, WHOM YE CRUCIFIED, whom God RAISED FROM THE DEAD, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.


11
KJV:This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become THE HEAD OF THE CORNER.


12
KJV: NEITHER IS THERE SALVATION IN ANY OTHER: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, WHEREBY WE MUST BE SAVED.


NOTE: the above is the story that saves
sinners from Satan, sin and self.

Tell sinners this story!

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Re: This Is What/who To Preach by KNOWMORE56: 7:03am On Jul 22, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Anyone who does not know how to teach exactly what Jesus Christ taught, has no business preaching to anyone. Do you know why it took at least 3 years for the apostles to be ready to go out to teach the world(after receiving the Spirit of God that is) of Jesus Christ? undecided
Did you know that Paul also had to wait several years before he went out to preach to others? undecided




Let's see something from John 3:16
*.
KJV:For GOD so loved the world, that he gave his ONLY begotten SON, that whosoever believeth in him should not PERISH, but have EVERLASTING LIFE.

NOTE! one of the reasons this verse is the best in preaching the gospel it's because it summarizes the long story.

In John 3:16 we have all the words that form the word GOSPEL:

G= God
O= Only
S= Son
P= PERISH
E= Everlasting
L= Life

i.e GOD ONLY SON PERISH ( that humanity should have) EVERLASTING LIFE.

whoever believes this he's saved.

From that moment it's expected of him to start living the new life in CHRIST.

The new life is that if you used to steal don't do that again,

*. Ephesians 4:28 "KJV: LET HIM THAT STOLE STEAL NO MORE: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.

In summary, EVERYTHING about you must change.

Female often argue about clothes.

But by the grace of God I have understood that even your styles of clothes must change.
Re: This Is What/who To Preach by KNOWMORE56: 7:10am On Jul 22, 2020
Kobojunkie:
I am a follower of Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ never preached His own birth, let alone His own death and resurrection though. This is included in the gospels by those who were witnesses. But what He did teach was the New Covenant commandments and what we must do in order to become worthy of Him, and to remain in His love, and eventually enter into His kingdom.
Wrong! If you bothered to read what Jesus Christ included in that passage, you will see that it clearly states there that these are things He commands that sinners do in order to become worthy of Him... i.e. in order to become His followers.


I AM a FOLLOWER OF JESUS CHRIST.

please let me know how it started.

What I mean is that; you become Jesus' follower without His birth, death and resurrection?
Re: This Is What/who To Preach by Kobojunkie: 7:15am On Jul 22, 2020
KNOWMORE56:
Let's see something from John 3:16
*.
KJV:For GOD so loved the world, that he gave his ONLY begotten SON, that whosoever believeth in him should not PERISH, but have EVERLASTING LIFE.
NOTE! one of the reasons this verse is the best in preaching the gospel it's because it summarizes the long story.
In John 3:16 we have all the words that form the word GOSPEL:
G= GodO= OnlyS= SonP= PERISHE= EverlastingL= Life

i.e GOD ONLY SON PERISH ( that humanity should have) EVERLASTING LIFE.
whoever believes this he's saved.
From that moment it's expected of him to start living the new life in CHRIST.
The new life is that if you used to steal don't do that again, .
Jesus Christ did not say what you have in John 2 vs 16. John the apostle wrote that bit... the same John the apostle who then later wrote in His epistle to all believers that...

1 John 2 vs 3-6
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3. If we obey what God has told us to do, then we are sure that we know him.
4. If we say we know God but do not obey his commands, we are lying. The truth is not in us.
5. But when we obey God’s teaching, his love is truly working in us. This is how we know that we are living in him.
6. If we say we live in God, we must live the way Jesus lived.
Yes, the same John that said you have to be believe to be saved, also tells you that you cannot be saved if you do not obey the teachings of Jesus Christ. So any preaching that does not teach people to obey the commandments and teachings of Jesus Christ is not preaching that Jesus Christ asked for. His teachings are his commandments and in order to be saved, one must obey His commandments. Jesus Christ said taught this and John the apostle whom you quoted earlier affirmed that indeed it is a requirement for one to indeed not perish.
Re: This Is What/who To Preach by Kobojunkie: 7:18am On Jul 22, 2020
KNOWMORE56:
I AM a FOLLOWER OF JESUS CHRIST.
please let me know how it started.
What I mean is that; you become Jesus' follower without His birth, death and resurrection?
Nobody preached to me but God Himself! I studied the teachings of Jesus Christ and then realized that what I have never done was attempt obedience. And the minute I started obeying the teachings, I began to notice something different. Eventually, I realized that Jesus Christ did stipulate what one needed to do in order to be granted membership as His follower, and no sooner had I begun working on that that I realized that God's hand was definitely on my case. Before long, He showed up!
Re: This Is What/who To Preach by KNOWMORE56: 10:04pm On Jul 22, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Nobody preached to me but God Himself! I studied the teachings of Jesus Christ and then realized that what I have never done was attempt obedience. And the minute I started obeying the teachings, I began to notice something different. Eventually, I realized that Jesus Christ did stipulate what one needed to do in order to be granted membership as His follower, and no sooner had I begun working on that that I realized that God's hand was definitely on my case. Before long, He showed up!


Ok, this is lovely.

I want you to know that you 1st believed in Jesus before you started obeying His teachings.

You believe everything about Him, His birth, death and resurrection.

I will have you know that any day you will say that Jesus did not die for you, you'll begin to have problems working with Him.


You don't tell somebody who have not accepted Jesus died for him to start obeying His comandments.

My next post is to answer your question
WHAT DO YOU MEAN SAVE?

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Re: This Is What/who To Preach by KNOWMORE56: 10:38pm On Jul 22, 2020
Kobojunkie:
What do you mean when you say "save" in relation to a sinner?
When Jesus Christ sent His disciples out to preach the good news of the Kingdom, what do you think He sent them out to do? Preach the same things He had taught to them? Or Make up new stuff to lure people in?


Sinners have no eternal life. When we believe that Jesus died for us we are free (saved) from the wrath/God's anger that is to come upon unrepentant sinners

To be saved is that you are set free from sin and its consequences to come.

*. Romans 6: 14 KJV:For SIN SHALL NOT HAVE DOMINION OVER YOU: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.


It means you are justified (i.e you don't have condemnation again)

*. Acts 13:39 "KJV:And BY HIM ALL THAT BELIEVE ARE JUSTIFIED FROM ALL THINGS, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.


It means you can not die again; if you die, you will live again

*. John 11:26 "KJV: AND WHOSOEVER LIVETH AND BELIEVETH IN ME SHALL NEVER DIE. Believest thou this?

I will like to talk about the Nicodemus, the young rich man and the other one you asked.

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Re: This Is What/who To Preach by KNOWMORE56: 11:37pm On Jul 22, 2020
Kobojunkie:
He prophesied about His death and resurrection maybe, but did not teach them.
Here's a question for you to ponder. Did Jesus Christ teach of his birth, death and resurrection to His disciples as well to get them to believe in Him? : undecided
Did He teach about His birth, death and resurrection to Nicodemus, and even the Rich man who eventually could not stomach loosing His all on behalf of Christ? undecided


1. Yes, Jesus Christ taught about His birth, death and resurrection.

I have given you the quotations which you said it is prophecy.

2.a). The preaching before the cross ( i.e before Jesus died) is mostly about doing good;

*. Luke 3:10 "KJV:And the PEOPLE ASKED HIM, saying, WHAT SHALL WE DO then?
11
KJV:He answereth and saith unto them, HE THAT HATH TWO COATS, LET HIM IMPART TO HIM THAT HATH NONE; and he that hath meat, let him do likewise.
12
KJV:Then came also publicans to be baptized, and said unto him, Master, WHAT SHALL WE DO?
13
KJV:And he said unto them, EXACT NO MORE THAN THAT WHICH IS APPOINTED YOU.
14
KJV:And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, And WHAT SHALL WE DO? And he said unto them, DO VIOLENCE TO NO MAN, neither accuse any falsely;

but after the cross it is all about Jesus, the SON of the living God. I have given 3 examples for this and more are coming.


2b. To me Nicodemus have already believed in Jesus. From his statement WE/I KNOW THAT YOU ARE A TEACHER

*. John 3:2 "
KJV:The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, WE KNOW THAT THOU ART A TEACHER COME FROM GOD: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

So he already knew something about Jesus and Jesus wants him (Nicodemus) to know more.

3. The young rich man, like Nicodemus, had known something very important.


When Jesus listed the commandments to him, his reply was that he kept all of them from his younger age

*. Mark 10:17 "
KJV:And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, WHAT SHALL I DO that I may inherit eternal life?
18
KJV:And JESUS SAID unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
19
KJV: THOU KNOWEST THE COMMANDMENTS, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.
20
KJV:And HE ANSWERED and said unto him, Master, ALL THESE HAVE I OBSERVED FROM MY YOUTH.



I don't want the post to be too long, if not I would love to tell you something about this young man.


This question WHAT SHALL WE/I DO
Had been asked by different people.

And different answers are given to them.
Besides the above, see more 2 below:


*. John 6:28 "KJV:Then said they unto him, WHAT SHALL WE DO, that we might work the works of God?
29
KJV: JESUS ANSWERED and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye BELIEVE ON HIM WHOM HE HATH SENT.


*. Acts 16:30 "KJV:And brought them out, and said, Sirs, WHAT MUST I DO to be saved?
31
KJV:And THEY SAID, BELIEVE ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.


This last one is the message after the cross!

Thanks
Re: This Is What/who To Preach by KNOWMORE56: 8:04am On Jul 23, 2020
4. THE DISCIPLES BEFORE THE COUNCIL:



*. Acts 5 :30 "
KJV:The GOD of our fathers RAISED UP JESUS, WHOM YE SLEW AND HANGED ON A TREE.
31
KJV: HIM hath God exalted with his right hand to be A PRINCE AND A SAVIOUR, for to give repentance to Israel, and FORGIVENESS OF SINS.
32
KJV:And WE ARE HIS WITNESSES OF THESE THINGS; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.

NOTE the results/effect of the story:


33
KJV:When they heard that, THEY WERE CUT TO THE HEART, and took counsel to slay them.

40
KJV:And to him they agreed: and when they had called the apostles, and beaten them, they commanded that they should not speak IN THE NAME OF JESUS, and let them go.

41
KJV:And they departed from the presence of the council, REJOICING that they were counted worthy TO SUFFER SHAME FOR HIS NAME.


Note: the JWs (Janosky, Maximus69 and their brothers and sisters) are not Christians


because they rejoice to suffer shame for the name Jehovah and the organization.

This is contrary to Biblical evidence.


42
KJV:And daily in the temple, and in every house, THEY CEASED NOT TO TEACH AND PREACH JESUS CHRIST.


NOTE:
each time the story of the cross is told, those who claim they are knowledgeable, often than not, pick offense;

while sinners are, often than not, rejoice.


Try check out the end result of all the places the story is told in the Bible and see.

*. 1 Corinthians 1:18 "
KJV:For THE PREACHING OF THE CROSS is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it IS THE POWER OF GOD.


*. Romans 1:16 "KJV:For I am not ashamed of THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST: for it IS THE POWER OF GOD UNTO SALVATION TO EVERY ONE THAT BELIEVETH; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

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Re: This Is What/who To Preach by KNOWMORE56: 7:17am On Jul 24, 2020
5. STEPHEN BEFORE THE COUNCIL:


*. Acts 7:37 "
KJV:This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A PROPHET shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; HIM SHALL YE HEAR.

45
KJV:Which also our fathers that came after brought in with JESUS into the possession of the Gentiles, whom God drave out before the face of our fathers, unto the days of David;

52
KJV:Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of THE JUST ONE; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:

Result/effect of the preaching:

54
KJV:When they heard these things, THEY WERE CUT TO THE HEART, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.

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