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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 10:34pm On Jul 23, 2020 |
iamoyindamola:Lol |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 6:31am On Jul 24, 2020 |
Spy360:Let's shut him up by winning the Premiership next season |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 8:00am On Jul 24, 2020 |
Jodera:Brother I will not expect us to play that way in every game. There are games against smaller teams that the attack needs to provide the win like against Villa. But against tougher teams it's the defense that matters more to provide the win. That's why I said both attack and defense are needed. But that between the two, it's defense that actually ensures that you remain competitive. I have explained before that with a guaranteed defense you CANNOT lose. That's the secret of the Italian WC winning team. And many others also. Let me reiterate that both defense and attack must be good to win a title but defense is that department that ensures it's possible. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 8:01am On Jul 24, 2020 |
Fkhalifa:Na by force to win PL? |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 8:05am On Jul 24, 2020 |
Jodera:Let's use real teams. Liverpool scored less than City but are champions. In fact City has 15 more goals than Liverpool and a better goal difference but are 8pts worse. Both have good attacks but Liverpool has the better defense. Sheffield has scored just 38goals. That's relegation figure, as West Ham has scored 48. But Sheffield United are contesting for Europe while West Ham were facing relegation struggles. Selah |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 8:48am On Jul 24, 2020 |
Spy360:Hian, we both agree on the bolded since na. Our bone of contention here is "what is arsenal main priority to ensure top 4 next season"? You said defence, I said midfield and attack. We're not talking about title. We won't meet man city and Liverpool every weekend, but you see those small teams. Na almost every weekend. So, wen we're not expected to park the bus, is it defence that will put us in the driving seat or midfield/attack? |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 9:06am On Jul 24, 2020 |
Spy360:Lol. So what about arsenal and Chelsea?. At least arsenal conceded way less goals than Chelsea. Also, in 2016/2017 season when Chelsea carried the league, Chelsea conceded more goals than Tottenham (33 to 26.) Yet Chelsea was the winner why Tottenham was 2nd. You know what, we can keep on churning this debate up and down till we clear all the whole bush wey we don beat finish ...lol, but by next season, if we don't improve our midfield and attack, you personally will still keep on blaming the defence without knowing the root cause. You might say our defence cost us points against Leicester(1-1), Aston (1-0), but I'll solemnly tell you it's attack. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 9:27am On Jul 24, 2020 |
Jodera:OK. Sorry for the digression. I think our business in defense has been concluded. The signing of Saliba, Mari and Luiz's extension concluded that. Unless one of our older clowns gets sold, I don't think any new defender will join us. Based on the above, I will not contest your statement. Rather I would say it's the midfield first then the attack. We sincerely need a DM, AM and a winger. But they must be top quality, if not no need to waste money. The bolded is the reason I am calling on the Kroenkes to man up for the club. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 9:37am On Jul 24, 2020 |
Jodera: Seems I wasn't digressing afterall... But you see the emboldened, the logic is simple... ~If you don't concede you won't lose~ I understand our attack have their problems especially when they are set up wrongly, but ultimately it's the defense that ensures you don't lose a game. You need attack to score the goals to make you win, but it's the defense that makes you stay relevant in a competition. I have played amateur soccer and even coached my university team and can assure you that for any manager, the top priority is your defense after that your midfield and attack. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 10:11am On Jul 24, 2020 |
Spy360: Bro you're Wengerized already. Even top can't give me any special joy again. The Arsenal family need the Sanchez mentality.Reason why'll always wish Guen well. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 10:26am On Jul 24, 2020 |
Roland17:The season we scored well, we were close to 4th. Yes, we might have conceded lots, but per game I'm sure highest we concede is 2. How often do our so World class forward score 2+ in a game or even create good goal scoring chances per game. N.B, Ability to kill games off or dominate possession after 1/2 goals up plays huge role. Our point is, the defence isn't worst as painted, it is average enough to make top4 if the midfield and attack is very good. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 10:33am On Jul 24, 2020 |
iamoyindamola: Keep crying,your tears can't win you this,lailai
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 12:53pm On Jul 24, 2020 |
Spy360:Finally, we've agreed on the issue. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 1:00pm On Jul 24, 2020 |
Fkhalifa:I can't just say we would/should win the PL when I know the basis has not been put in place. The likes of Liverpool and City still have the squad, while Chelsea and United are open to strengthening their squad with any potential they can lay their hands on. We don't have a sugar daddy like those clubs do, and so we have to wait till Arteta does some magic and bring the players we already have up to speed. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Kbs468(m): 5:24pm On Jul 24, 2020 |
iamoyindamola:we are to wear it versus Watford in the final premier league match of the season |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 8:14pm On Jul 24, 2020 |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 9:26pm On Jul 24, 2020 |
Fkhalifa: Kudos, you are the only one who kind of understands the direction of my argument when I droped those attachments. If we scored more and still finished outside of the top 4 for 3 consecutive seasons, shouldn't that be a pointer as to where we need to improve upon? We are an average team overall, we lack quality in numerous departments and that is buttressed in our results. Consequently, expectiing us to score more than 3 goals a game to assure a W is desperately unachievable! How many goals are our competitiors (Spurs, Leciester, Wolves, Sheffield, Manchester United and Chelsea) scoring per game and how many are they conceding per game? I said this before that I am worried we have successfully absolved the clowns we parade at the back of their blame and now sholdering it on the midfielders. The midfielders are now to blame for issues with our attack and defense. The fact that you even think our defense is average makes all the case. "No one ever lost a football game for not conceding" |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 9:28pm On Jul 24, 2020 |
You guys can have all the money, use all the money to revamp our attack!!!! I don gree! But na next season I dey wait for una after all the revamping. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Expert17: 9:33pm On Jul 24, 2020 |
Roland17: Food for thought 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 10:13pm On Jul 24, 2020 |
Roland17:Thank you. I feel in recent years, teams have improved a lot and our attack may just be good on paper but average and behind the Leicester,Wolves and Spurs. Why we asked the forward to create and bury chances is because of PAL and the hype around them. You rightly said we lack quality in almost every department and not just the defense. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 10:27pm On Jul 24, 2020 |
Roland17: Mesef wan see how Kolibaly and Upamenco can take Arsenal to UCL.. I'll eat my words and agree with you people's notion. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 11:16pm On Jul 24, 2020 |
Fkhalifa: Haha!!! Ooooin!!!! Baba, I no gree!!!.. Make una take all the money use am refurbish our attack. Na wen we spend all that money for attack and still finish outside top 4 na him I go get una time. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Akinbahm(m): 1:08am On Jul 25, 2020 |
Spy360: No need to argue anymore he had succumb to the fact unconsciously at the bolded which means if our attack is good enough we should be in top4/5 Spy360: We won them because our attackers buried our slight chances nd their attackers failed to... |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 7:19am On Jul 25, 2020 |
Roland17:Midfield nko |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by afrodoc2: 10:38am On Jul 25, 2020 |
You guys have a committee of clowns in central defence but think the problem is in attack. I laugh in OtemAtum. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by OtemAtum: 10:40am On Jul 25, 2020 |
afrodoc2:Don't laugh in me, laugh in yourself like this |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by afrodoc2: 10:42am On Jul 25, 2020 |
OtemAtum: For a very big laugh I have to laugh in the most high....... Just the way I would laugh if I was very high. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by OtemAtum: 10:46am On Jul 25, 2020 |
afrodoc2:How can I be the most high. Jehovah is the most high, according to their songs. I don't even high at all, but I'm the highest of all gods of history presently sha. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by afrodoc2: 11:26am On Jul 25, 2020 |
OtemAtum: Presently? Do you gods have a coefficient system like UEFA? |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 11:31am On Jul 25, 2020 |
afrodoc2:You can laugh in otem or atum or both, but you like the media is over exaggerating that our cb issues. Esp wen we have Mari Saliba(hoping he comes good) Holding Chambers Luiz. Mustafi At least, these 6 are ok for first eleven and squad depth. Who do we have in midfield and attack? OK, doc. Assuming we have van dijk and koulibali, can you name a first team (11) for arsenal lemme see your lineup(include the van dijk and koulibaly) |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by afrodoc2: 12:02pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
Jodera: Let me simplify it for you. I will take Aubameyang, Saka, Ceballos and Martinelli from your team into my squad right now. Nelson, Nketiah are to be decided. I no send Lacasera. But I won’t touch any of your Clown’s conference of central defenders with a 785ft pole if the fate of the human race depended on it. Is it until Holding, Chambers, Mustafi and Luiz wear dunce’s caps unto the pitch before you recognize them for what they are? |
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