OfoIgbo:


You will also have to change Ikwerre town names like RumuIgbo, which clearly means IGBO PEOPLE, and RumuIbekwe which clearly means IBEKWE's children.

Or even better, non Igbos from Ikwerreland may have to vacate any Ikwerre town with an Igbo sounding name, as they are clearly Igbo towns.

Fool,

Sanity33:

They will speak whatever language they want to speak !
Their names would be however they want them to be !
They don't need your permission !
Jesus, you south-easterners are just crazy.

It is as if you south-easterners believe anybody who speaks the same words as you needs to pay you. Wtf ?

Sanity33:

Dude you are so deluded that this isn't funny anymore.

Answer my question what does oba mean in Edo language? how can you claim you own a word that has no meaning in your language.

cc TAO11, Legendhero, macof Metaphysical

Sanity33:
I have to remind the southeastern people that a lot of their titles were given to them by the British who were trying to centralise a previously decentralised and disorganized set of tribes called the Igbos.
Do from that point on, Igbos should stop claiming they own titles !

The title Eze has been with Igbos front the beginning, the British may have brought a new meaning to it, From time the most powerful Igbo kingdoms had Ezes which were like priest-kings, Eze NRI, Eze Aro and few others, the British just had to create a whole lot more artificial Eze thrones to centralise other hitherto decentralised town and villages

900winer:

Answer my question what does oba mean in Edo language? how can you claim you own a word that has no meaning in your language.

cc TAO11, Legendhero, macof Metaphysical

Fvcking slowpoke, I am not entering this nonsensical debate of "what is the meaning". Rather you should ask yourself when your first Yoruba dictionary was written. That will tell you your "meaning" question makes no sense.
I see you are calling your yoruba trolls to come and help you troll.
Look, you guys are pathetic.
Trying so hard to deny and bury the truth.
Fact is fact.

Sanity33:

Fvck what you asked for. I gave you facts.
It is not my fault that you are in denial !

What did you bring? I asked you to explain a word you claim translate to Yoruba and you are telling shit, you claim you know history and keep dodging my question who does that?

IspitonCowards:
The title Eze has been with Igbos front the beginning, the British may have brought a new meaning to it, From time the most powerful Igbo kingdoms had Ezes which were like priest-kings, Eze NRI, Eze Aro and few others

No, all you said is unsubstantiated !

Some of you commenting here are just arguing blindly without fact...... Am Onitsha guy, If Onitsha says that they migrated from present day Edo or Delta state it can be understood because we have many things in common with them (Anioma people) base on culture and names.. although we're in anambra state but totally diff with our neighbours (towns surrounding us) in culture .. Our king are known as Obi, same as Anioma towns in delta. .

I can tell you that ikwerre people are confuse set of people with inferiority complex.. They are not in any way related to benin.. I don't blame them but blame the Igbo people claiming them.... You have the same culture and language with your igbo niegbours yet claim to originated from far away benin without having anything in common with them.... Igala, Ibibio, Efik etc all have boundary with Igbo yet did not loose their language to Igbos then its only Ikwerre..



Some of you here, especially yorubas saying that igbos are claiming ikwerre because of access to sea... That's shows that you guys don't travel and knows nothing about Ikwere..... Ikwerre have no access to sea but their Ijaw neighbours (Bonny, Degema, Andony)... Ikwerre are in upper land of R.state so nothing concern them with Atlantic ocean.



The funny thing is that their Ijaw neighbors call and sees them as Igbos... Ask any guy from okirika, bonny or andony.

Sanity33:

Fvcking slowpoke, I am not entering this nonsensical debate of "what is the meaning". Rather you should ask yourself when your first Yoruba dictionary was written. That will tell you your "meaning" question makes no sense.
I see you are calling your yoruba trolls to come and help you troll.
Look, you guys are pathetic.
Trying so hard to deny and bury the truth.
Fact is fact.

Isn't this funny what is Oba in Edo language? I told it means king in Yoruba language then what does it mean in Edo language? How can you claim a word that has no meaning in Your language it funny

TAO11

Sanity33:


No, all you said is unsubstantiated !

who will substantiate them?, The history of the whole tribes of Tribes in Nigeria is shrouded in controversy and contradictions, History is banned from schools.....My town is an NRI town so I learnt quiet a lot from elders around

Sanity33:


Well, in case you are unaware, like so many other ignorant africans, Europeans have been in contact with west Africa since the middle ages.
They drew maps and wrote texts showing what they saw.
Also many precolonial pictures survived with original captions showing the titles of the kings in the pictures. No Yoruba was described as Oba in those texts or pictures. The Oba of Benin was.
The title was in a way stolen by the Yoruba in the 1930's.

You want me to believe Oba is a Benin title But Eze is not an Igbo title?.....You are a clown

IspitonCowards:
I feel your pain bro seek help

Keep editing my comment

900winer:

Lies we have trashed you guyz and we will do it again, the name Oba have exited among the Yoruba for millions of years, that his why we have names like Obatala, Obatedo etc Oba means king in Yoruba now what is the meaning of Oba in Edo language?

Millions of years? , The human race is just 200 thousand years bros

Mraphel:

Oba is Yoruba yet Yoruba aren't saying Bini people are Yoruba.

Eze may not necessarily Igbo

lol does Bini people also speak pure yoruba the way ikwere speak pure igbo?

IspitonCowards:
that's your original name, you don't even know your culture

Keep trolling

900winer:

I need financial help bro

Goan mine skull like your brothers

IspitonCowards:
What you said is the truth that No one wants to say in this present times, The ooni of ife was courageous enough to explore it sometime ago but he was frowned at and discouraged , The Benin obas themselves also like to be quiet of their ancient links with NRI, The throne of attah of igala has been islamized too

You are so deluded.
Colonization has really paralyzed many brains.
Who knows NRI ?

selemempe:
lol does Bini people also speak pure yoruba the way ikwere speak pure igbo?

Oba is not Yoruba and perhaps you guys need to let people be. They are not Igbo !

IspitonCowards:
Millions of years? , The human race is just 200 thousand years bros

Leave me jare

IspitonCowards:
You want me to believe Oba is a Benin title But Eze is not an Igbo title?.....You are a clown

Wow, you do t understand that fact doesn't depend on feelings ...but feel free to be an ignorant black man like many others.

Sanity33:


Fool,



It is as if you south-easterners believe anybody who speaks the same words as you needs to pay you. Wtf ?

Well, because everyone that speaks Yoruba as their first language, is a Yoruba
Everyone that speaks Ijaw or its variant, as their first language, is an Ijaw
Anybody that speak Hausa or its variant, as their first language, is an Hausa
So you shouldn't go tearing your worn-out pants if some Igbos consider anyone that speaks Igbo or its variant, as an Igbo.

DNAs can also be looked into to know who is who. Not all these history twisters, using traditional rulers to claim what doesn't belong to them.

Not that I give a crap if Ikwerres want to identify as Igbos or not. That is why I am not in support of any Ikwerre taking any slot that belongs to Igbos.

IspitonCowards:
Goan mine skull like your brothers

You go tire

Bendeco02:
Some of you commenting here are just arguing blindly without fact...... Am Onitsha guy, If Onitsha says that they migrated from present day Edo or Delta state it can be understood because we have many things in common with them (Anioma people) base on culture and names.. although we're in anambra state but totally diff with our neighbours (towns surrounding us) in culture .. Our king are known as Obi, same as Anioma towns in delta. .

I can tell you that ikwerre people are confuse set of people with inferiority complex.. They are not in any way related to benin.. I don't blame them but blame the Igbo people claiming them.... You have the same culture and language with your igbo niegbours yet claim to originated from far away benin without having anything in common with them.... Igala, Ibibio, Efik etc all have boundary with Igbo yet did not loose their language to Igbos then its only Ikwerre..



Some of you here, especially yorubas saying that igbos are claiming ikwerre because of access to sea... That's shows that you guys don't travel and knows nothing about Ikwere..... Ikwerre have no access to sea but their Ijaw neighbours (Bonny, Degema, Andony)... Ikwerre are in upper land of R.state so nothing concern them with Atlantic ocean.



The funny thing is that their Ijaw neighbors call and sees them as Igbos... Ask any guy from okirika, bonny or andony.

Well spoken!
Truth is, only a section of ikwerres see themselves as non Igbos.

Mr. Sanity33 what is the meaning of Oba in Edo language i need answer abeg

900winer:

Isn't this funny what is Oba in Edo language? I told it means king in Yoruba language then what does it mean in Edo language? How can you claim a word that has no meaning in Your language it funny

TAO11

What is the meaning of king in English ?
That is the same type of stupid question which you are asking.
Also, it is already established that you Yoruba stole the Oba title in the 1930's.
You guys believe you are making a point, but you are only being silly while repeating the same talking points over and over.

The "meaning" debate is pure nonsense, haussa themselves could say "Oba means... in haussa language" igbos could do the same, anybody can say any nonsense... So what point are you even trying to make ?You've got brain ?
You guys are so used to repeating the same sentences, the same questions, your brains are totally absent.

OfoIgbo:


Oba of Benin's origin has absolutely nothing to do with Ife.
Benin Oba tradition is way older than Ife.

Oba remains a title in Nri till date, and it doesn't mean King (Eze or Igwe). It is perhaps one of the highest titles in Nri territories, beside that of the Eze or Igwe.

In Benin, Oba doesn't also mean king. That immediately reveals the Benin obas are not spin-offs from Ife.
In Yorubaland, Oba means king, which is probably an idea they got from Benin, thinking it meant king in Bini.

Up until a little over a hundred years ago, Eze Nris bestowed the ofo on every Oba of Benin and Attah of Igala.

The Ooni of Ife never bestowed anything on the Oba of Benin. The Nris would have been aware of such a thing. Thank God Portuguese explorers made it to Benin during the reigns of Oba Ewuare and Oba Ozolua in the 1400s to confirm the pre-eminence of Nri cultural supremacy of Benin.
If those explorers had visited Ife, the Ooni of Ife would have told the Portuguese about the Nri cultural supremacy of Ife at that particular time also.

Never mess with Nri. Again, as I wrote sometime ago, when the Nris speak, the true Igbo territories will be known.

Pay no attention to some cultural journeymen in Igboland at the moment, like the Aguleris and others. When Nri speaks, Nigeria will know.

Why not face topic? Topic is about Oba of Benin, Bini and Ikwerre, why bringing in other topics in order to derail because you feel too pained?
No Ikwerre man/woman or sociocultural group had even debunked what the Oba said so what's your own?

OfoIgbo:


Well, because everyone that speaks Yoruba as their first language, is a Yoruba
Everyone that speaks Ijaw or its variant, as their first language, is an Ijaw
Anybody that speak Hausa or its variant, as their first language, is an Hausa
So you shouldn't go tearing your worn-out pants if some Igbos consider anyone that speaks Igbo or its variant, as an Igbo.

DNAs can also be looked into to know who is who. Not all these history twisters, using traditional rulers to claim what doesn't belong to them.

Not that I give a crap if Ikwerres want to identify as Igbos or not. That is why I am not in support of any Ikwerre taking any slot that belongs to Igbos.

Ask the guy what the meaning of Oba or Eze in Edo language and watch him usainbolt

Sanity33:


Oba is not Yoruba and perhaps you guys need to let people be. They are not Igbo !

who hold them ogbeni? Many of them claim to be Igbo. Since when have you heard any top Igbo claiming ikwere as igbos? This op is an attention seeker

Sanity33:

You are so deluded.
Colonization has really paralyzed many brains.
Who knows NRI ?

The people of Idu or Bini as they call themselves today knows them, NRI traversed southern Nigeria establishing their priestly influences, Ogwanshi uku in Delta state where NRI people that journeyed to Iduland and decided to stay back along the way, Nri at the height of its influence was revered in Many parts of southern Nigeria get your supposed facts right, you don't know as much as you think you do

OfoIgbo:


Well, because everyone that speaks Yoruba as their first language, is a Yoruba
Everyone that speaks Ijaw or its variant, as their first language, is an Ijaw
Anybody that speak Hausa or its variant, as their first language, is an Hausa
So you shouldn't go tearing your worn-out pants if some Igbos consider anyone that speaks Igbo or its variant, as an Igbo.

DNAs can also be looked into to know who is who. Not all these history twisters, using traditional rulers to claim what doesn't belong to them.

Not that I give a crap if Ikwerres want to identify as Igbos or not. That is why I am not in support of any Ikwerre taking any slot that belongs to Igbos.

Actually a lot of non haussa tribes in the north speak haussa as first language, and they are not haussa !
The fact is you guys are incredibly ignorant and also arrogant. You think you know what you don't.
Stop associating language with ethnicity !
There are many reasons which make several people to speak other languages over time. In Switzerland half of the people speak German, the other half speak French. The same people !
You guys are totally deluded

IspitonCowards:
The people of Idu or Bini as they call themselves today knows them, NRI traversed southern Nigeria establishing their priestly influences, Ogwanshi uku in Delta state where NRI people that journeyed to Iduland and decided to stay back along the way, Nri at the height of its influence was revered in Many parts of southern Nigeria get your supposed facts right, you don't know as much as you think you do

You need a psychiatrist.
You are speaking gibberish.

Sanity33:

Wow, you do t understand that fact doesn't depend on feelings ...but feel free to be an ignorant black man like many others.

Keep kwayet ode, Mr know it all, You know everything about everybody's History more than they themselves

Sanity33:


You need a psychiatrist.
You are speaking gibberish.

You are the king of gibberish, You have been saying rubbish here since, Oversabi oshi