Kazikazi:
No.Masai are not the richest, but they are richer than millions of poor folks stacked in many slums across Africa especially from nations with faked economies! Just imagine,an ordinary Masai guy owning 500 cows! Is it not worthy than what poor folks in slums outside TZ owns?

so is pokots and turkanas..

mtisTheQubit:

question..what does luanda got an Kigali dont..an please dont talk of empty buildings build using corrupt oil money...

Heres it, you can say corrupt oil money fact is its more developed

Corrupt oil money developed the place

Austine1213:


I never said speaking 10 languages your problem

I don't understand where you going withwith this comment

then how is posting development making noise.?
You're not answering my question Austine1213. you said the likes of Tunisia, angola, Morroco, algeria are developed but they don't make noise, then I asked you a question.
Does posting development progress noise making?
Does lacking ability to speak English a disability cos your presumption is that they're not here because they don't want to show off.

Austine1213:


Heres it, you can say corrupt oil money fact is its more developed

Corrupt oil money developed the place

Ok ..list the so called development..i wan show you something

Victoria Island and environ

The question becomes, how much does the person earn from 500 cows on a monthly basis
And whether it covers their basis needs enough

Kazikazi:
No.Masai are not the richest, but they are richer than millions of poor folks stacked in many slums across Africa especially from nations with faked economies! Just imagine,an ordinary Masai guy owning 500 cows! Is it not worthy than what poor folks in slums outside TZ owns?

Austine1213:


Ordinary no

Upper class absolutely


Be mad at me attack me,,, that's the truth

Son,am not here to attack you,but to teach you many stuff.

This guy below with two tanzanite gemstones is TZnian newest millionaire. He is what u call " upper class".....…

Austine1213:


Heres it, you can say corrupt oil money fact is its more developed

Corrupt oil money developed the place

just have alook ..ok am not sure about the data but definitely you can see luanda got nothing on kigali

mtisTheQubit:

ths is the thing..even when naijas post their very few nice places, we dont get pained...but the dude just wann drag SA is a BS argument...many kenayns have travelled to SA an know alittle bit of that country..an its not all flowers an stuff...

I told you im not pained.

Show me world class development ill celebrate

Post sime miniature african standard development, i don't praise such im sorry

I Have a world perspective of things, would someone in brazil celebrate a 3km road stretch with grand opening? Absolutely not its states money/taxes that's what should happen

mtisTheQubit:

just have alook ..ok am not sure about the data but definitely you can see luanda got nothing on kigali

Luanda is more developed fact

Look at the pic you posted and tell you believe that? Do you know how big is Luanda

Kazikazi:
Son,am not here to attack you,but to teach you many stuff.

This guy below with two tanzanite gemstones is TZnian newest millionaire. He is what u call " upper class".....…

kazi i will tell something...i had a biz on ths stones on your country...i will not talk more on ths.. but one think i might advice my Tanzanian friens..please wake upfrom you sleep mode..your country is rich..an i dont know why Kenya is ahead of you just saying

Austine1213:


Luanda is more developed fact

Look at the pic you posted and tell you believe that? Do you know how big is Luanda

i need data man not hearsay...i posted something even though might on be correct but from it you can guess who the big guy..look at ths

Kazikazi:
Son,am not here to attack you,but to teach you many stuff.

This guy below with two tanzanite gemstones is TZnian newest millionaire. He is what u call " upper class".....…

Even a retard can claim to teach, no pun

Upperclass does not necessarily mean a millionaire, do yourself a favor and check what's upper class.

Tztztz
Camping around lake singida,Tanzania

Shma:
Skyscrapers currently under construction in westlands.

Just confused..since when did Escada become 27flrs and also start date at 2019...

Something just doesn't seem right...

zhike:


Kindly note SA is not a developing country, but is a developed country.

it's a NIC

rvp2018:
The rant of a misinformed idiot from the dystopian zoo.

Developed countries pay a lot of taxes so they don't have to live like a zoo. They don't have to ever go through blackouts, pot-holed roads, kidnapping and absolutely lack of personal safety, pollution, lack of pipe safe water, terrible traffic jams, poor quality of education, lack of proper medical care.

Now let's compare kenya and Nigeria. We pay probably highest electricity cost in Africa - at more 20 cents a usd. Nigeria on paper pays Africa lowest at 6 cents USD. Kenya enjoy 24-7 stable electricity. Nigeria are luckly to get 6hours of electricity everyday.

You know why - Nigeria electricity sector is underfunded because consumers pay very little - so there is no investment done by power companies nor can the power producers be able to run the turbines.

The end results - nearly every Nigerian has to invest in diesel or petrol generator. The cost per KWH of a generator is upwards 40 usd cents per unit.

Conclusion: CHEAP is EXPENSIVE.

Example 2. Fuel. Kenya pays very expensive fuel prices - we tax it heavily - more than 100% to provide money to fund gov and for road maintenance levy. Nigeria pay ridiculously low prices because fuel is not taxed - but actually subsidized. You would think Nigerians enjoy the best of life - but because their road infrastructure is mostly totally collapsed and the few decent roads are clogged with traffic - it cost more to run a vehicle in Nigeria - than in Kenya. And Nigeria is plagued with fuel shortages...something unheard of in Kenya. People don't know what it means to ever go to petrol stations and lack fuel...or to have long queues. The sector is profitable for everyone - so why would fuel ever go short?

Let not even talk about the mess that fuel quality in Nigerian and the disaster on the engines and environment.

The same is true for everything else.

The amount of money Nigerians have to spend on personal security - I am told the rich have to drive with armed guards- the oil sector is a mess because thugs cut off pipelines - the Fulani herdsmen drive from Sahara to Nigeria like it was a wilderness and kill any farmer they find on their way - Boko Haram control the North East - etc. These kind of things are surreal in any modern country. Even South Sudan have some semblance of law and order. Heck Somali's AlShabaab run their regions with far more order.

The difference btw near Utopia like countries - heavily tax norway for example - and a dystopian zoo zero tax Nigeria - is obvious.

Taxes enable gov to provide common services that would be hard or inefficient if everyone was left to sort it out themselves like Nigeria has done.

Kenya tax level - at 18-20% GDP is far from ideal. South Africa at 25% of GDP. Norways are at 50%.

Kenya should aim to increase it tax base to hit 25% of GDP. While Nigeria at 5% tax to GDP will remain like Somali or Chad or Niger or name it - they get zero tax - and they have zero development.

You wasted your time writing this..Instead of helping you debunk those lies onE after the other which would make us digress from the subject matter I would rather ask you simple questions and expect your reply in succinct term....

Where does all that tax money go to cos we dont see it in the life of the citizen?
Why is is that your taxes are constantly been reported to be stolen?
Why is that your taxes can barely build 1km road with a single loan attached?

Why is your Infastructures heavily dependent on loans instead of your taxes? Who is fooling who..

In as much as I agree that there in room for improvement in our tax to GDP system I would say Kenya has outlived her opportunities cos it's obviously not showing...you generate up to 21% -17% tax to GDP yet U gat nothing to show for it..you are better off not paying at all then you your bad roads,power cuts,poor infastructure than to pay an still go through this horrendous situation..

jln115:
SA is a NIC

Abeg commit..we've been over this..

samorobo:


Just confused..since when did Escada become 27flrs and also start date at 2019...

Something just doesn't seem right...

it break ground late last year.
I'm not sure if the floor number has been upgraded but 27flrs is latest figures from BAA.

Shma:
Every Nigerians and the hobbits should watch this video.
This is runda kenya stretching all through to two rivers mall.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS0v8an6uZY
This is how wealthy kenya is.

Yes I watch runda(reserved United Nation development area) 3 hours after its release..it's a basic estate/residential neighbourhood with zero planning and brown muddy ponds/lakes......

In succinct terms it's an Estate! Estate! Estate!!! For expats..

68816419:

still same bad road networks,

U saw that too

theenchanter:
so, with this long epistle of urs, u'll still queue behind a nigerian bank, watch nigerian movies, listen to her music, see "9jabet" on ur tv while watching ur league..... Oga, u're just grapsing at straw.

A fool he is and a fool he'd remain...

samorobo:


Yes I watch runda(reserved United Nation development area) 3 hours after its release..it's a basic estate/residential neighbourhood with zero planning and brown muddy ponds/lakes......

In succinct terms it's an Estate! Estate! Estate!!! For expats..

Runda suburbs is full of posh estates and malls.
The serene beautiful environment is what makes it.

samorobo:


Abeg commit..we've been over this..

Exactly so I expected you to know we are a NIC

But you dragged yourselves to this milk debate we had with Tanzania.

Austine1213:

Fir some odd reason some arguments are pointless,
Eg. imagine SA Trying to compete with Nigeria with cassava production while an 99% of SA don't know cassava.

Interms of food production most is dependent of the diet of that particular place.

E.g on average my diet dies not include milk

Like Nigga - show me any estate like that in Nigeria.

samorobo:


Yes I watch runda(reserved United Nation development area) 3 hours after its release..it's a basic estate/residential neighbourhood with zero planning and brown muddy ponds/lakes......

In succinct terms it's an Estate! Estate! Estate!!! For expats..

rvp20182:
Like Nigga - show me any estate like that in Nigeria.

I bet he can't

It shows in our stable electricity, well maintained roads, our ease of doing business is what top 50, our education is top notch for SSA standards, etc etc.

samorobo:


You wasted your time writing this..Instead of helping you debunk those lies onE after the other which would make us digress from the subject matter I would rather ask you simple questions and expect your reply in succinct term....

Where does all that tax money go to cos we dont see it in the life of the citizen?
Why is is that your taxes are constantly been reported to be stolen?
Why is that your taxes can barely build 1km road with a single loan attached?

Why is your Infastructures heavily dependent on loans instead of your taxes? Who is fooling who..

In as much as I agree that there in room for improvement in our tax to GDP system I would say Kenya has outlived her opportunities cos it's obviously not showing...you generate up to 21% -17% tax to GDP yet U gat nothing to show for it..you are better off not paying at all then you your bad roads,power cuts,poor infastructure than to pay an still go through this horrendous situation..

samorobo:


Yes I watch runda(reserved United Nation development area) 3 hours after its release..it's a basic estate/residential neighbourhood with zero planning and brown muddy ponds/lakes......

In succinct terms it's an Estate! Estate! Estate!!! For expats..

Ghana hobbits talk about low rise residential houses - they should watch this video for what that mean. Not iron-roofed house of cheap finishes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS0v8an6uZY

zhike:


Kindly note SA is not a developing country, but is a developed country.

No it's not .

rvp20182:
Like Nigga - show me any estate like that in Nigeria.

Start by telling me what is special about that your runda-ruaka estate...I was thinking to understand you better...

Don't here with your forest greenery blah,blah, blah..