DappaD:

Yes due to our imperfections, it's sometimes a struggle to adhere strictly to God's standards but there is no room for breaking God's law. It's as stern as possible.

I don't mean imperfections. I mean rooms created by God himself so that his laws can be broken under certain circumstances?

DappaD:

Ask mature questions please.

How do you define matured questions?

rottennaija:


I don't mean imperfections. I mean rooms created by God himself so that his laws can be broken under certain circumstances?

Okay so now you're questioning me regards decisions made by Jehovah, yes or no?
If yes, provide evidence for such let's address it using the Bible.

rottennaija:


How do you define matured questions?

Questions that stir up the thoughts of a person and is not intended for ridicule.

Emusan:


It's obvious that JWs don't adhere to Bible standards strictly.

When I saw the below in one of their publications, I said to myself, since The greatest unseen treasure is friendship with Jehovah God already,

what will sonship with God be called?

They apply ransom to mean friendship for some, sonship for selected few. That too is adhering to Bible standards strictly

John 1:12 he gave authority to become God's children

DappaD:

Okay so now you're questioning me regards decisions made by Jehovah, yes or no?
If yes, provide evidence for such let's address it using the Bible.

I think you are deliberately misunderstanding me. This was my question to you...

"Are you aware that there are many examples of God's servants breaking God's laws in certain circumstances?"

And I clearly mentioned that this isn't in respect to imperfection but "rooms created by God himself so that his laws can be broken under certain circumstances?"

DappaD:


Questions that stir up the thoughts of a person and is not intended for ridicule.

Do you think the questions asked so far are meant to RIDICULE you or the JWS?

DappaD:


Questions that stir up the thoughts of a person and is not intended for ridicule.

So the questions below do not stir up thoughts?

Is there any scriptural precedence for the baptism of infant?

Is there a biblical precedence for it? Can a child of 10 be given drivers licence or allowed to Marry or pay tax even if they understand what is required?

Consider a man who is told by his doctors that he must abstain from meat. Would he be obedient if he quit eating meat, but accepted a kidney transplant?”

Is eating meat same as accepting organ transplant?

It is a well know fact that the Bible does not forbid blood transfusion but forbids the eating of blood. Now, where does the bible forbid the transfusion of blood fractions but allows the transfusion of haemoglobin?

DappaD

Let me save you the stress. Have you realise that you have not actually answer any question but instead you have deflected, ignored and even abandon the questions?

What questions did you expect? Christmas? New years? Hell Fire? Heaven? Those questions are for amateurs. If you want to answer amateur questions, you shouldn't come to nairaland.

rottennaija:


I think you are deliberately misunderstanding me. This was my question to you...

"Are you aware that there are many examples of God's servants breaking God's laws in certain circumstances?"

And I clearly mentioned that this isn't in respect to imperfection but "rooms created by God himself so that his laws can be broken under certain circumstances?"

Jehovah God has standards which we can find in the Bible. He doesn't go against his standards!

rottennaija:
DappaD

Let me save you the stress. Have you realise that you have not actually answer any question but instead you have deflected, ignored and even abandon the questions?

What questions did you expect? Christmas? New years? Hell Fire? Heaven? Those questions are for amateurs. If you want to answer amateur questions, you shouldn't come to nairaland.

Okay. I've not answered any questions regarding blood transfusion and baptism of children abi ?
Good to note.

@bolded, that's why I said I'm looking forward to mature questions not petty ones.

rottennaija:


So the questions below do not stir up thoughts?

Is there any scriptural precedence for the baptism of infant?

Is there a biblical precedence for it? Can a child of 10 be given drivers licence or allowed to Marry or pay tax even if they understand what is required?

Consider a man who is told by his doctors that he must abstain from meat. Would he be obedient if he quit eating meat, but accepted a kidney transplant?”

Is eating meat same as accepting organ transplant?

It is a well know fact that the Bible does not forbid blood transfusion but forbids the eating of blood. Now, where does the bible forbid the transfusion of blood fractions but allows the transfusion of haemoglobin?

Let me add one to this, since blood transfusion is synonymous with eating of blood, if A man is DYING of STARVATION, can blood transfusion solve the ISSUE?

achorladey:


Let me add one to this, since blood transfusion is synonymous with eating of blood, if A man is DYING of STARVATION, can blood transfusion solve the ISSUE?

Logic can only be applied in the right sense. Anything further from that would be just distorting what is clearly stated.

DappaD:

Logic can only be applied in the right sense. Anything further from that would be just distorting what is clearly stated.

Please tell what is clearly stated and what can be applied in the right sense here? That blood transfusion is synonymous with eating of blood I am not understanding!

achorladey:


Please tell what is clearly stated and what can be applied in the right sense here? That blood transfusion is synonymous with eating if blood I am not understanding!

That's only where it can be applied. Bringing in unrelated things to pass off as logic won't work.

DappaD:

That's only where it can be applied. Bringing in unrelated things to pass off as logic won't work.

Salaye!

rottennaija:


So the questions below do not stir up thoughts?

1. Is there any scriptural precedence for the baptism of infant?

2. Is there a biblical precedence for it? Can a child of 10 be given drivers licence or allowed to Marry or pay tax even if they understand what is required?

3. Consider a man who is told by his doctors that he must abstain from meat. Would he be obedient if he quit eating meat, but accepted a kidney transplant?”

4. Is eating meat same as accepting organ transplant?

5. It is a well know fact that the Bible does not forbid blood transfusion but forbids the eating of blood. Now, where does the bible forbid the transfusion of blood fractions but allows the transfusion of haemoglobin?

1. The Bible says that people who got baptized were ‘hearing and receiving words’ with understanding. Baptism was for those ‘hearing the word’ , meaning it is for those who have listened and come to understand what the Scriptures are saying.(Acts 2:41)
Something that a young person can do. A baby cannot listen and get the sense of what's being taught.

2. Does not to relate to your question. Wrong use of logic. I want to believe that when you were young at 10,11 you were enrolled in school and wrote exams.

3. Again, wrong use of logic. If the person eats the said organ raw or cooked, does that mean it would serve its purpose in the body or just get digested? ***This reply doesn't support cannibalism

4. No it is not, because the organ is an attachment in the body not to serve as food or nourishment and so it doesn't apply to the blood scenario.

5. I've answered this question regarding blood fractions in previous pages.

DappaD:

Jehovah God has standards which we can find in the Bible. He doesn't go against his standards!

So you are not aware that God made deliberate provisions so that in certain conditions, his laws can be broken?

DappaD:


1. The Bible says that people who got baptized were ‘hearing and receiving words’ with understanding. Baptism was for those ‘hearing the word’ , meaning it is for those who have listened and come to understand what the Scriptures are saying.(Acts 2:41)
Something that a young person can do. A baby cannot listen and get the sense of what's being taught.

2. Does not to relate to your question. Wrong use of logic. I want to believe that when you were young at 10,11 you were enrolled in school and wrote exams.

3. Again, wrong use of logic. If the person eats the said organ raw or cooked, does that mean it would serve its purpose in the body or just get digested? ***This reply doesn't support cannibalism

4. No it is not, because the organ is an attachment in the body not to serve as food or nourishment and so it doesn't apply to the blood scenario.

5. I've answered this question regarding blood fractions in previous pages.

3. Consider a man who is told by his doctors that he must abstain from meat. Would he be obedient if he quit eating meat, but accepted a kidney transplant?”

4. Is eating meat same as accepting organ transplant?

Is the above are wrong use of logic, is eating blood (forbidden in the bible) and taking blood transfusion the same thing?

If the doctor ask a man to abstain from alcohol, will it then be accepted to take it through injection?

Does Blood save as food to the body?

DappaD:


1. The Bible says that people who got baptized were ‘hearing and receiving words’ with understanding. Baptism was for those ‘hearing the word’ , meaning it is for those who have listened and come to understand what the Scriptures are saying.(Acts 2:41)
Something that a young person can do. A baby cannot listen and get the sense of what's being taught.

Are they scriptural examples of infant baptism?

rottennaija:


Are they scriptural examples of infant baptism?

There are not. There are scriptural examples of those who heard the truth and got baptized.

rottennaija:


3. Consider a man who is told by his doctors that he must abstain from meat. Would he be obedient if he quit eating meat, but accepted a kidney transplant?”

4. Is eating meat same as accepting organ transplant?

Is the above are wrong use of logic, is eating blood (forbidden in the bible) and taking blood transfusion the same thing?

If the doctor ask a man to abstain from alcohol, will it then be accepted to take it through injection?

Does Blood save as food to the body?

I see you asking questions I've already answered. Carry on.
Blood can taken through mouth or through transfusion for sustenance. And that should be avoided by true Christians! (Acts 15:28,29)

The same example can be applied in the case of one whose doctor said he should refrain from alcohol.

DappaD:

There are not. There are scriptural examples of those who heard the truth and got baptized.

Jesus baptized at what age?

rottennaija:


So you are not aware that God made deliberate provisions so that in certain conditions, his laws can be broken?

As regards destruction of the wicked. It is known.

But the question is, is God against the destruction of the enemies of his people and people who are wicked?

DappaD:


I see you asking questions I've already answered. Carry on.
Blood can taken through mouth or through transfusion for sustenance. And that should be avoided by true Christians! (Acts 15:28,29)

The same example can be applied in the case of one whose doctor said he should refrain from alcohol.

Does taking blood through the mouth and transfusion serve the same purpose?

Did the bible forbid blood transfusion or blood eating?

DappaD:

As regards destruction of the wicked. It is known.

But the question is, is God against the destruction of the enemies of his people and people who are wicked?

Explain what you mean by in regards to destruction of the wicked.

rottennaija:


Jesus baptized at what age?

He got baptized at approximately 30years.
This was to fulfill Daniel's prophecy for Messiah to appear after 69weeks(483years) in the year 29C.E (Daniel 9:24-26)

DappaD:

He got baptized at approximately 30years.
This was to fulfill Daniel's prophecy for Messiah to appear after 69weeks(483years) in the year 29C.E (Daniel 9:24-26)

So Jesus didn't baptise as an infant, despite all his wisdom.

rottennaija:


Does taking blood through the mouth and transfusion serve the same purpose?

Did the bible forbid blood transfusion or blood eating?

The Bible says ‘abstain from blood’ ! — Acts 15:28,29

Let's assume blood transfusions existed in ancient times, do you think a first century Christian after listening to God's law, would go against it to take blood into his system?

DappaD:


The Bible says ‘abstain from blood’ ! — Acts 15:28,29

Let's assume blood transfusions existed in ancient times, do you think a first century Christian after listening to God's law, would go against it to take blood into his system?

So which one does the bible forbid? Eating blood or blood transfusion?

DappaD:


1. The Bible says that people who got baptized were ‘hearing and receiving words’ with understanding. Baptism was for those ‘hearing the word’ , meaning it is for those who have listened and come to understand what the Scriptures are saying.(Acts 2:41)
Something that a young person can do. A baby cannot listen and get the sense of what's being taught.

2. Does not to relate to your question. Wrong use of logic. I want to believe that when you were young at 10,11 you were enrolled in school and wrote exams.

3. Again, wrong use of logic. If the person eats the said organ raw or cooked, does that mean it would serve its purpose in the body or just get digested? ***This reply doesn't support cannibalism

4. No it is not, because the organ is an attachment in the body not to serve as food or nourishment and so it doesn't apply to the blood scenario.

5. I've answered this question regarding blood fractions in previous pages.

Look closely at all the bolded. That is where you have to think upon. Define a young person? Define people? Define babies? We have studied with infants look at the numerous words you have used to justify that your organization don't baptize infants. The material I posted from the magazine of the organization states MEN and WOMEN. Are 6,7,8,9,10,11,13 year olds men and women?

DappaD:


The Bible says ‘abstain from blood’ ! — Acts 15:28,29

Let's assume blood transfusions existed in ancient times, do you think a first century Christian after listening to God's law, would go against it to take blood into his system?

Does the bible forbid eating of human flesh for food?