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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 11:17am On Aug 15, 2020
iamoyindamola:

Bro let's do something, we should rate this defence and midfield to the one wengay have been parading.
I think we can agree this defence is not the worst but the midfield is way terrible compare to wengay's days
I know I've once asked this thing before...
A defence containing Silvester, djorou, Andre Santos, Gibbs, Jenkinson, even koscienly at a point. Yet we still made top 4.

Those defence across those season, if it's now, they'll be slated way more than this sef
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 11:17am On Aug 15, 2020
BlueRayDick:


Goan preach dis gospel to barca fans lemme see if they will not curse arsenal to suffer trophylessness for 600 years grin
grin grin grin...
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 11:19am On Aug 15, 2020
iamoyindamola:

Bro let's do something, we should rate this defence and midfield to the one wengay have been parading.
I think we can agree this defence is not the worst but the midfield is way terrible compare to wengay's days

I hope u are not saying this current useless defence is superior to A backline of Nacho monreal, Koscienly, Matersacker and Bellerin undecided

Just tell me that's not what u mean so I no go break this wine bottle scatter everywhere like a shesi fan o
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 11:20am On Aug 15, 2020
Jodera:
no they won't. Tierney will replace kola and sokratis is never a 1st team player under Arteta.

Emery made them clowns. From next season, the only person I might be afraid of been a clown in starting 11 is luiz, but then it comes occasionally.
Luiz, Mari, Saliba, holding, chambers.
I believe they'll all do a decent work.

But you see that midfield and attack, I'm afraid esp if auba isn't spectacular as this season

For the sake of the team I hope u are right
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 11:33am On Aug 15, 2020
BlueRayDick:


I hope u are not saying this current useless defence is superior to A backline of Nacho monreal, Koscienly, Matersacker and Bellerin undecided

Just tell me that's not what u mean so I no go break this wine bottle scatter everywhere like a shesi fan o
Yes the defence that conceded 8-2, 6-3, 6-0, 10-2 etc
Is that one defence?
Apart from individual mistake these ones does they don't concede anyhow.
Below are the cricket score wengay defence dish us tell me how do you survive that and claim these present defence didn't try

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 11:34am On Aug 15, 2020
Jodera:
I know I've once asked this thing before...
A defence containing Silvester, djorou, Andre Santos, Gibbs, Jenkinson, even koscienly at a point. Yet we still made top 4.

Those defence across those season, if it's now, they'll be slated way more than this sef
10-2, 8-2, 6-0 etc
Bro wengay and his boys made me depressed
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 11:39am On Aug 15, 2020
Jodera:
I know I've once asked this thing before...
A defence containing Silvester, djorou, Andre Santos, Gibbs, Jenkinson, even koscienly at a point. Yet we still made top 4.

Those defence across those season, if it's now, they'll be slated way more than this sef
Those guys you listed can't do shit, there was a time Bolton, Stoke(delap,olofinjana) will be happy facing arsenal just one throw inside the box18 everywhere scatter grin grin
Atleast these one kept LFC and city at bay only that they have individual brain farts
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 12:02pm On Aug 15, 2020
iamoyindamola:

Yes the defence that conceded 8-2, 6-3, 6-0, 10-2 etc
Is that one defence?
Apart from individual mistake these ones does they don't concede anyhow.
Below are the cricket score wengay defence dish us tell me how do you survive that and claim these present defence didn't try

All the teams listed up there are big teams giving arsenal(an inferior team that had no big signing) a drubbing of their life.....

What we have today is a Wilfred Zaha inspired Crystal palace beating arsenal courtesy of a misfit like Mustafi in defence, a newly promoted team like Brighton doing a double over Arsenal, Arsenal not being able to manage a win on 2 legs in the EPL against 4cking sheffield. shocked...etc

Going by how much u lamented about Wenger and continually called for his sack, one would think u will be glad seeing arsenal consolidating on winning smaller.teams already and moving on to beat bigger teams. But here u are are comfortable with arsenal losing to Some damn bottom and mid table teams all season long
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 12:18pm On Aug 15, 2020
BlueRayDick:


All the teams listed up there are big teams giving arsenal(an inferior team that had no big signing) a drubbing of their life.....

What we have today is a Wilfred Zaha inspired Crystal palace beating arsenal courtesy of a misfit like Mustafi in defence, a newly promoted team like Brighton doing a double over Arsenal, Arsenal not being able to manage a win on 2 legs in the EPL against 4cking sheffield. shocked...etc

Going by how much u lamented about Wenger and continually called for his sack, one would think u will be glad seeing arsenal consolidating on winning smaller.teams already and moving on to beat bigger teams. But here u are are comfortable with arsenal losing to Some damn bottom and mid table teams all season long

You are not getting the point here, you want the defence out but we are telling you that's the last problem.
Where was the midfield when attackers are struggling to get goals, apart from auba which attacker of arsenal have 15 goals and assist combine.
Attack wise or defence wise what did the midfield do?
The defence you complained about scored about 7 goals and midfield only had 2 goals.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 12:26pm On Aug 15, 2020
If we have VVD, koulibaly, upamecano today arsenal go still chop am because having someone like xhaka in that midfield is bad for any team thinking of qualifying for UCL or winning EPL.
We know how carzola made coquelin look like world class DM, fabregas and song too provided shield for defence and also attack but we parade Jerry curl, xhaka, ceballos
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Akinbahm(m): 12:31pm On Aug 15, 2020
Jodera:
leave am brother.
I told my brother (who's a barca fan) that Bayern will humiliate them ystdy. He said it's a lie. I asked him, aside messi, who is the next wildcard in the team, cos if Bayern just hold messi, everything don finish. He said that's the problem, nobody can hold messi. I just look am laugh.

Now messi was way subdued yesterday, and nobody in that attack and midfield could cause trouble, but na defence we go blame.

There's a saying that if a beautiful lady doesn't have brains, the private part suffers. No truer words than that wen you have a dead dead midfield and attack, cos almost everyone knows midfield (mostly) and attack is the brain of a team

An evidence Bayern self no get defence was Messi brilliant pass to Jordi Alba b4 passing to Suarez imagine Barca attackers keeps utilizing those chances It wont ended that way yesterday.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Akinbahm(m): 12:37pm On Aug 15, 2020
Jodera:
Gbam

Bro, I sat with a Barca fan to watch the match, he said even if Barca equalize Bayern will still win the match because any small chance they see they utilize it...

He even admitted that Barca defense is shit even at that their attackers didnt make it an easy task for the defenders. Thus for a Barca fan to utter this no point engaging Spy360 on the argument of defence or no defense...
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Akinbahm(m): 12:40pm On Aug 15, 2020
Jodera:
E just tire me for spy I swear.
See waves after waves of attack, but na defence we go look. He's even calling Suarez sef. Suarez wey don expire since 2017, that shouldn't be in barca squad talk more of 1st team.

I remember how Madrid beat athletico in semi final 4-1 in champions league with Ronaldo scoring hat trick. I guess a whole athletico then doesn't have defence

At the bolded only few Barcelona fans admitted to this majority of them is still dreaming in fantasy league grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 12:45pm On Aug 15, 2020
iamoyindamola:

You are not getting the point here, you want the defence out but we are telling you that's the last problem.
Where was the midfield when attackers are struggling to get goals, apart from auba which attacker of arsenal have 15 goals and assist combine.
Attack wise or defence wise what did the midfield do?
The defence you complained about scored about 7 goals and midfield only had 2 goals.

You are the one who is not getting it.

as at 12th July Optajoe says arsenal had dropped a massive 21 points from winning position this past season....Do u even know what that means?

It means a striker, a winger or midfielder and very unlikely a defender scored putting arsenal in the lead but somehow our defence gave way and we threw massive 21 points away.

Yarns like arsenal Signing Upamecano, VVD etc with the current midfield won't improve the team is better okapta Yarns of high grade.....But if u insist, I will be here to watch how things pan out when season starts and we still have those useless clowns at the backline.

I would like to know what Roland17 will make of this Ur stand sha cool
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 12:47pm On Aug 15, 2020
iamoyindamola:

You are not getting the point here, you want the defence out but we are telling you that's the last problem.
Where was the midfield when attackers are struggling to get goals, apart from auba which attacker of arsenal have 15 goals and assist combine.
Attack wise or defence wise what did the midfield do?
The defence you complained about scored about 7 goals and midfield only had 2 goals.

All well and good! I would be here to see u curse Mustafi, Kolasinac, Papasthapopulous or Luiz when next either of them decide to drop their regular disaster class defending performance
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 12:52pm On Aug 15, 2020
BlueRayDick:


All well and good! I would be here to see u curse Mustafi, Kolasinac, Papasthapopulous or Luiz when next either of them decide to drop their regular disaster class defending performance
Of course the defence is prone to error but tell us what midfield contributed last season
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Akinbahm(m): 12:52pm On Aug 15, 2020
BlueRayDick:


1. Arsenal has one of the best strikers in the league in Aubameyang. He turns in an average of 22 EPL goals every season. How many Epl teams have such?

2. Arsenal has a Saka that is one of the most promising youngsters in the league. At 18 he's not too far behind Kevin De Bruyne in assists/goal contributions.

3. Arsenal has pepe that had 18 goal contributions in his first season at An Elite club in the EPL coming from a backwater French ligue 1.


4. Wolveampthon Wanderers is sitting atop Arsenal because their defence is more compact than Arsenal. They scored lesser goals but also conceded lesser goals.

5. If Arsenal keep fielding those clowns in our backline, our attackers will score but we will concede like we did this season and it will end in tears. Arsenal should get a player in the mould of Upamecano and maybe our goals allowed will reduce

Individually, Arsenal has good attackers but collectively No that's why Man United front three of Martial Rashford and Greenwood is more deadly to Arsenal PAL.

Statistically I can tell u GSM is better on paper than Perisic Lewandowski Gnabry but better than GSM on pitch cause they work collectively...

Biko, dont join the league of fans who believed that a team fielded of star players on a pitch playing outside position would be deadly bro, that shit nah greatest scam in football. That's why RB Leipzig without their star man still held Ath Madrid down and I wont be surprise if they eliminate PSG self and if they try to get star players against next season might affected them especially if played out of position...
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 12:57pm On Aug 15, 2020
Akinbahm:


Individually, Arsenal has good attackers but collectively No that's why Man United front three of Martial Rashford and Greenwood is more deadly to Arsenal PAL.

Statistically I can tell u GSM is better on paper than Perisic Lewandowski Gnabry but better than GSM on pitch cause they work collectively...

Biko, dont join the league of fans who believed that a team fielded of star players on a pitch playing outside position would be deadly bro, that shit nah greatest scam in football. That's why RB Leipzig without their star man still held Ath Madrid down and I wont be surprise if they eliminate PSG self and if they try to get star players against next season might affected them especially if played out of position...
Simple
We have been talking about attack and defence because this is where arsenal players are played out of position but midfield that xhaka have been playing from birth yet nothing to show for it, same with willock, Jerry curls etc
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Akinbahm(m): 12:57pm On Aug 15, 2020
Jodera:
Come on guys. We shouldn't be thinking about wolves and Sheffield conceding less goals compared to their goals scored as example for us to have good defence. We are a top club and we should think as one. Those guys park the bus and play low blocks, route one football and what nots, is that how we should aspire to be?

Bayern conceded two goals ystdy but nobody gave a hoot about that and everyone hailed them, not because they conceded two but they obliterated their opponents.
Athletico lost to Leipzig not even with all the negative football they played two days ago. Nobody mentioned Leipzig for conceding but it's athletico who was out.

If Bayern hadn't created numerous chances yesterday with their midfield and attack and/or lose all the chances they created yesterday, thereby losing 2-0, I'm sure some people will remind us how bad their defence had always been and why they're in farmer's league. But now it's the opposite, it's now how bad barca defence is, forgetting to tell us how great Bayern midfield and attack is.

This Same Bayern conceded 3 against Tottenham in one match, yet we know who cried at the end of that same match.

And my I add, very few teams fear a team with v.good defence but average attack and midfield, but most teams fear a team with average defence but v.good attack and midfield

Come on guys!!

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Akinbahm(m): 1:02pm On Aug 15, 2020
BlueRayDick:


If u really want to put things into perspective, here it is:

ATTACK WISE :

1. Aubameyang 22 goals + 3 assists
2. Lacazette 10 goals + 3 assists
3. Pepe 5 goals + 5 assists

DEFENCE WISE

We conceded 48 goals....just 8 goals short of the 56 goals our attack fired past our opponents.

How can any fan be comfortable with this defence? Funny enough as it stands the oy thing that will change in our defence is a 19 year old Saliba that is yet to play in a team as big arsenal in a very fast league like Epl.

You may be comfortable with this defence and think midfield should be the first point of call, but I'm not

Baba, I want to ask u sth simply highlight 4 games each away & home Arsenal won in Epl convincingly with an average of 3to4 goals...
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 1:08pm On Aug 15, 2020
Raul is gone, is this because of Pepe's purchase lipsrsealed lipsrsealed
I read the board were surprised the amount used in buying was too much grin

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Akinbahm(m): 1:14pm On Aug 15, 2020
iamoyindamola:

Simple
We have been talking about attack and defence because this is where arsenal players are played out of position but midfield that xhaka have been playing from birth yet nothing to show for it, same with willock, Jerry curls etc

I left that arguement b4 the final against Chelsea since spy360 intentionally outlook our attackers only to focus on defence and was just reading when someone also said defence should be sorted out for midfield...

The midfield of Atlanta, Leipzig, Wolves, and many more is far far better than ours..
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 1:24pm On Aug 15, 2020
iamoyindamola:

Of course the defence is prone to error but tell us what midfield contributed last season

Arsenal's current defence is not prone to error, Arsenal's current defence is shiiit....whether u admit it or not the Res Ipsa loquitor ( the fact speak for itself)

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 1:29pm On Aug 15, 2020
Akinbahm:


Baba, I want to ask u sth simply highlight 4 games each away & home Arsenal won in Epl convincingly with an average of 3to4 goals...

So until a team wins 4-3, 3-2 etc before u know the attack is potent and defence is shiiit?....I laugh u

It's like u don't know what it means when they say arsenal lost 21 points from winning position. It means Arsenal's attackers had already scored and a useless defence leaked goals like they did against Tottenham.

Maybe I should in turn ask u to list games in which Arsenal's dey defence was superb but the attackers couldn't find the back of the net. I will be waiting.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 1:40pm On Aug 15, 2020
Akinbahm:


Individually, Arsenal has good attackers but collectively No that's why Man United front three of Martial Rashford and Greenwood is more deadly to Arsenal PAL.

Statistically I can tell u GSM is better on paper than Perisic Lewandowski Gnabry but better than GSM on pitch cause they work collectively...

Biko, dont join the league of fans who believed that a team fielded of star players on a pitch playing outside position would be deadly bro, that shit nah greatest scam in football. That's why RB Leipzig without their star man still held Ath Madrid down and I wont be surprise if they eliminate PSG self and if they try to get star players against next season might affected them especially if played out of position...

What does Ur first paragraph even mean? Arsenal attackers are good individually but collectively no grin...I don't even understand u again. There's a coach whose job is to see to his players playing to . instruction. There's a Reason arsenal had 3 different coaches this out gone season. We all know it was due to poor result which the coaches are at fault for. We had Aubameyang who is epl golden boot winner last year, a new arrival in pepe and a Lacazette whom I'm not really too impressed about his showing. It is left for the coach to tweak them as he so wishes. That is not on the players.

But then again we have a defence that keeps dishing out horrific display every week. Mustafi, Luiz, Papasthapopulous are responsible for as many goals as we conceded this season. I watch the matches week in week out and I can count on my finger tips the matches Xhaka was at his low. I'm not even a fan of Xhaka but I say it how I see it, those defenders are more useless in their position than Xhaka is in his position.

If u people really want to drag it I can put on my computer and start bringing out match ratings per game and u will see how those clowns have been really woeful compared to Xhaka in the middle.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 2:34pm On Aug 15, 2020
Akinbahm:


Baba forget this yarn Barca attack was absolutely dead even Bayern self no get defence nah Barca attackers Bleep up wey no pressurize Bayern defence.

I'm still on my word attackers win you games your defense nd your squad depth win you league.

Nah only Messi I fit rate in that Barcelona squad...
That's why Barça won't win the Champions League this season.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 2:40pm On Aug 15, 2020
Akinbahm:


Compare and contrast Messi Suares Griezmann to Neymar Messi Suares nd tell me which is more deadly even Barcelona fans preferred Ansu Fati ahead of Griezmann for that wing at the bolded shows that Barca attackers aren't yet ready to lead the team yet...

Lastly bro, forget about all this media hype of GSM they look normal as PAL...
Forgive me but you are muddling things up.

Akinbahm:


Compare and contrast Messi Suares Griezmann to Neymar Messi Suares nd tell me which is more deadly even Barcelona fans preferred Ansu Fati ahead of Griezmann for that wing at the bolded shows that Barca attackers aren't yet ready to lead the team yet...

Lastly bro, forget about all this media hype of GSM they look normal as PAL...
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 2:54pm On Aug 15, 2020
Jodera:
E just tire me for spy I swear.
See waves after waves of attack, but na defence we go look. He's even calling Suarez sef. Suarez wey don expire since 2017, that shouldn't be in barca squad talk more of 1st team.

I remember how Madrid beat athletico in semi final 4-1 in champions league with Ronaldo scoring hat trick. I guess a whole athletico then doesn't have defence
My friend if you concede 8 it simply means your defence is poor. Whether it is 4man or 10man.

The fact that Barça scored twice and even hit the post shows they were capable of winning. One goal is enough to win a game as long as you do not concede. Sadly this is common sense.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by ndidibabe(f): 2:55pm On Aug 15, 2020
iamoyindamola:

Yes the defence that conceded 8-2, 6-3, 6-0, 10-2 etc
Is that one defence?
Apart from individual mistake these ones does they don't concede anyhow.
Below are the cricket score wengay defence dish us tell me how do you survive that and claim these present defence didn't try
If this present defence face the old Barcelona, na 20-0 o...
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 3:00pm On Aug 15, 2020
Jodera:
Random question I want to ask.
If a prime busquets, xavi and iniesta was in that midfield with same defence of yesterday, would the scores have reached 8?? undecided
They would still lose in anyway. That defense was shit. They have been so all season but they could only last this far. Their good attack brought them to QFs. They met a side that exposed their seeming weakness. Defence.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 3:01pm On Aug 15, 2020
BlueRayDick:


1. Arsenal has one of the best strikers in the league in Aubameyang. He turns in an average of 22 EPL goals every season. How many Epl teams have such?

2. Arsenal has a Saka that is one of the most promising youngsters in the league. At 18 he's not too far behind Kevin De Bruyne in assists/goal contributions.

3. Arsenal has pepe that had 18 goal contributions in his first season at An Elite club in the EPL coming from a backwater French ligue 1.


4. Wolveampthon Wanderers is sitting atop Arsenal because their defence is more compact than Arsenal. They scored lesser goals but also conceded lesser goals.

5. If Arsenal keep fielding those clowns in our backline, our attackers will score but we will concede like we did this season and it will end in tears. Arsenal should get a player in the mould of Upamecano and maybe our goals allowed will reduce
You are a wise man.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Kbs468(m): 3:07pm On Aug 15, 2020
iamoyindamola:
Raul is gone, is this because of Pepe's purchase lipsrsealed lipsrsealed
I read the board were surprised the amount used in buying was too much grin
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