Jodera:
You just proved our point. Good midfield and attack grant you top 4, defence and squad depth win you league.

With the shitty defence, they still sat comfortably in 2nd. That's to tell you good midfield and attack can carry you far(top 4), but there's a limit it can do(esp in a competitive league).
Liverpool under klopp before van dijk is another very good example

With the bolded, you have gotten there. Case closed.

Akinbahm:


Bro, I sat with a Barca fan to watch the match, he said even if Barca equalize Bayern will still win the match because any small chance they see they utilize it...

He even admitted that Barca defense is shit even at that their attackers didnt make it an easy task for the defenders. Thus for a Barca fan to utter this no point engaging Spy360 on the argument of defence or no defense...

A testimony of bad defending.

Did you see Alphonso Davies turn Roberto Carlos, a fullback taking an entire defense in a run?

Kbs468:

Mikel Arteta given more power over Arsenal transfers after Raul Sanllehi’s exit

Sanllehi’s departure as head of football means Gunners boss Arteta, and technical director Edu, will have more say on the recruitment of players.

Good
I think it has to do with Pepe's transfer

Akinbahm:


I left that arguement b4 the final against Chelsea since spy360 intentionally outlook our attackers only to focus on defence and was just reading when someone also said defence should be sorted out for midfield...

The midfield of Atlanta, Leipzig, Wolves, and many more is far far better than ours..

Our attack is OK. We have Aubameyang, Lacazette and Pepe. On their day, they can win you games.

Our midfield is poor. No creativity. Ceballos and Xhaka only picked up under Arteta.

Our defence is very poor. Arteta managed the situation by ignoring midfield and sending more bodies there- especially as seen against City. Fact is we have been playing supposedly without a midfield.

What does this mean?

Like you have been saying, a good attack can manage to win you games by outscoring your opponents. A good defence will ensure you don't lose.

You need both.

But a good defence is more critical because it is what sustains you and keep you relevant (that's why Wolves and Sheffield were mentioned).

Right now with our defence, we cannot play an extra midfielder or attacker, that would be suicidal. As a matter of fact, we have had to sacrifice a midfielder or attack just to make sure of our defence.

Let's get a solid defence, and we can afford to play an extra man in midfield or attack.

BlueRayDick:


So until a team wins 4-3, 3-2 etc before u know the attack is potent and defence is shiiit?....I laugh u

It's like u don't know what it means when they say arsenal lost 21 points from winning position. It means Arsenal's attackers had already scored and a useless defence leaked goals like they did against Tottenham.

Maybe I should in turn ask u to list games in which Arsenal's dey defence was superb but the attackers couldn't find the back of the net. I will be waiting.

I'm done with this kind of conversation since u r turning the table around simple question u ignored...

Spy360:

A testimony of bad defending.

Did you see Alphonso Davies turn Roberto Carlos, a fullback taking an entire defense in a run?

He added to what to the attack very simple baba.

What Alphonso did to Semedo yesterday forced the coach to tell semedo to man his primary assignment that's to defend now imagine Alphonso is only good defensive wise that mean the left wing would be totally dead...

Again if notice Bayern operated through that wing most times and it was really beneficial to them.

Akinbahm:


He added to what to the attack very simple baba.

What Alphonso did to Semedo yesterday forced the coach to tell semedo to man his primary assignment that's to defend now imagine Alphonso is only good defensive wise that mean the left wing would be totally dead...

Again if notice Bayern operated through that wing most times and it was really beneficial to them.

We are saying same thing but you don't want to simply admit.

Bayern attacked with their fullbacks no doubt. The extra numbers in midfield overwhelmed Barça's midfield, accepted.

But you see that Barça defending? They were just everywhere and no where. When they pushed forward they usually create chances but when defending they were just simply poor. Bayern's players were having a full day running in and around that backline. Just take a look at all the goals,

1. A one two between Lewa and Muller right at the centre of the box left the keeper exposed, a simple shot by Muller-goal.

2. Perisic unmarked on the left shoots straight at keeper with deflection

3. Gnabry runs past a defender unmarked face to face to keeper after escaping a high line

4. Muller runs through the defence unmarked to score a tap in

5. Lewa nods in free header no one marking

6. Davies dribbles through the entire defence, finds Kimmich totally unmarked

7/8. Coutinho runs through the defence

I painstakingly pointed each goal out, go see for yourself. All of the goals Barça conceded were due to poor marking, even the subs reacted angrily.

I think I have posted this away shirt before but not too sure about the third shirt though

Akinbahm:


I'm done with this kind of conversation since u r turning the table around simple question u ignored...

Do have a wonderful day then

Fight don start

Spy360:

We are saying same thing but you don't want to simply admit.

Bayern attacked with their fullbacks no doubt. The extra numbers in midfield overwhelmed Barça's midfield, accepted.

But you see that Barça defending? They were just everywhere and no where. When they pushed forward they usually create chances but when defending they were just simply poor. Bayern's players were having a full day running in and around that backline. Just take a look at all the goals,

1. A one two between Lewa and Muller right at the centre of the box left the keeper exposed, a simple shot by Muller-goal.

2. Perisic unmarked on the left shoots straight at keeper with deflection

3. Gnabry runs past a defender unmarked face to face to keeper after escaping a high line

4. Muller runs through the defence unmarked to score a tap in

5. Lewa nods in free header no one marking

6. Davies dribbles through the entire defence, finds Kimmich totally unmarked

7/8. Coutinho runs through the defence

I painstakingly pointed each goal out, go see for yourself. All of the goals Barça conceded were due to poor marking, even the subs reacted angrily.

Alryt bro...

kokaneprodigy:
Fight don start

Haha haha...

Badt guy

Nna Mehn, I wonder how Coutinho must have felt after scoring twice agent his parent club in an 8-2 massacre...

Spy360:
Nna Mehn, I wonder how Coutinho must have felt after scoring twice agent his parent club in an 8-2 massacre...

It’s nothing personal na, he's just doing his job as a professional.

Thank God he has since and was modest about his celebration unlike childish players like Adebayor and co

BlueRayDick:


For the sake of the team I hope u are right

My brother. Hopefully it'll be right for the team.
I just have this belief that if we sign a good DM and Am, I'll be confident of top4 barring any long term injury to any of our key player(s)..

iamoyindamola:

10-2, 8-2, 6-0 etc
Bro wengay and his boys made me depressed

Lol... I tire.
That's wen we get midfield o.
Imagine now wey we no get midfield?

iamoyindamola:

Those guys you listed can't do shit, there was a time Bolton, Stoke(delap,olofinjana) will be happy facing arsenal just one throw inside the box18 everywhere scatter
Atleast these one kept LFC and city at bay only that they have individual brain farts

see bro. Anytime I watch arsenal match then, once we did not hold control of the game (both in possession and chances created), just forget it, I know we'll lose.
That's how bad our defence was then. Dem Gibbs and Jenkinson couldn't see shirt in any small team, except arsenal. But we made them look average. Even monreal was so poor at first for a season plus before he was consistent.
The only person I see who was consistent was mertesacker, yet he was madly average. That tells you how bad our defence is.
The midfield/attack as you know needs no introduction

Jodera:
see bro. Anytime I watch arsenal match then, once we did not hold control of the game (both in possession and chances created), just forget it, I know we'll lose.
That's how bad our defence was then. Dem Gibbs and Jenkinson couldn't see shirt in any small team, except arsenal. But we made them look average. Even monreal was so poor at first for a season plus before he was consistent.
The only person I see who was consistent was mertesacker, yet he was madly average. That tells you how bad our defence is.
The midfield/attack as you know needs no introduction

The midfield then was top notch who dare challenge arsenal in midfield battle...them dead

Akinbahm:


An evidence Bayern self no get defence was Messi brilliant pass to Jordi Alba b4 passing to Suarez imagine Barca attackers keeps utilizing those chances It wont ended that way yesterday.

that's what I want spy to know. Both defence team aren't good. What prevailed was who has a better midfield and attack to capitalised on the weak defence. Sadly barca midfield and attack wasn't it. They targeted semedo wing anytime he overlaps yet Roberto was no where to be found. Busquets is passed it. These are the little things(attack) midfield ought to snuff out before it becomes too hot for the defence to handle

iamoyindamola:
The midfield then was top notch who dare challenge arsenal in midfield battle...them dead

as in... Which small team wan compare with us. It's only wen we meet our mates for midfield like man city, Chelsea, man u we dey collect cos their midfield pass our own and our defence na scrap. So they'll surely edge us out.
But now, small team o, big team o, all na our seniors.

Imagine? We couldn't win ordinary wolves during Emery tenure. Who does that?

Jodera:
as in... Which small team wan compare with us. It's only wen we meet our mates for midfield like man city, Chelsea, man u we dey collect cos their midfield pass our own and our defence na scrap. So they'll surely edge us out.
But now, small team o, big team o, all na our seniors.

Imagine? We couldn't win ordinary wolves during Emery tenure. Who does that?

Arsenal still edge those clubs you listed in midfield just that wengay will play giroud, bendtner, chamakh and they will be wasting chances upon chances.
The only time we played those big clubs was when rvp is in mad form.
Imagine auba was fortunate to play those kind midfielders even song was balling not xhaka that can't pass 1m to his team mate

Spy360:

My friend if you concede 8 it simply means your defence is poor. Whether it is 4man or 10man.

The fact that Barça scored twice and even hit the post shows they were capable of winning. One goal is enough to win a game as long as you do not concede. Sadly this is common sense.

Any team that concedes from 5 goals upwards(in terms of mauling o, not 5-4, 6-5 tinz) is no longer defence. It's purely midfield and attack work. Take a look at the stats below, what was the team doing to warrant 13 shots on goal(target)?
You can blame the defence only, but me I'll hold the team generally as a whole.
A good functioning team with good midfield attack and defence can't allow such

iamoyindamola:

[b]Arsenal still edge those clubs you listed in midfield][/b]just that wengay will play giroud, bendtner, chamakh and they will be wasting chances upon chances.
The only time we played those big clubs was when rvp is in mad form.
Imagine auba was fortunate to play those kind midfielders even song was balling not xhaka that can't pass 1m to his team mate

Hmm.. It's true sha. Seeing how we'll do the playing and they'll do the scoring. Lol

If auba dey then eh, him for break shearer record tey tey

Spy360:


With the bolded, you have gotten there. Case closed.

Lol.. Na marathon league I dey talk o. Not all these cups that even relegated Wigan and Birmingham can win.

And if you don't know, na top 4 I dey think of. Nothing concern me concern league now. Wen time to compete for league, na me go personally campaign let dem change that defence. But for now, you see that front 6. I just need A partey-like DM and a Coutinho-like Am. Finish.

If we get those two, if we no finish top 4, make you and Blueray drag me here till end of the season.

BlueRayDick:


It’s nothing personal na, he's just doing his job as a professional.

Thank God he has since and was modest about his celebration unlike childish players like Adebayor and co

Modest really, after saying he is not good enough. They were even begging Bayern to buy him or loan him again. They even marketed him to Arsenal and Spurs...

Revenge is best served cold. I know why he must have really enjoyed that bangg

iamoyindamola:
The midfield then was top notch who dare challenge arsenal in midfield battle...them dead

A good defence would have won us the league in 2016.

Selah

Spy360:

A good defence would have won us the league in 2016.

Selah

Yes we know but right now, we need good midfielders to get to top4 first

iamoyindamola:

Yes we know but right now, we need good midfielders to get to top4 first

I no no why spy dey think of league.
We never get admission him dey think of graduation..

Make we pass jamb fest na

Jodera:
I no no why spy dey think of league.
We never get admission him dey think of graduation..

Make we pass jamb fest na

Another case of good attack bad defense. When will you people listen and learn.

Lyon will be mad to swap aoura for Jerry curl

Spy360:
Another case of good attack bad defense. When will you people listen and learn.

How
Explain how defence made sterling lose chances upon chances