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Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by Nasir123(m): 9:42pm On Aug 20, 2020
AnanseK:

If the government can just convert all the churches into factories so that Sunday would be a day of production, you will see Nigeria’s export multiplying and the earnings will replace oil.
grin grin grin
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by Nobody: 9:45pm On Aug 20, 2020
leofab:
meaning that all the powers attributed to your god are imaginary and wishful..
Who Den Do U Worship?
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by TruthinAction: 9:46pm On Aug 20, 2020
seunlayi:
Govt can control churches. Can should shut up

Have they been able to control the affairs of the nation talk more of spiritual things? No security, no light, no job, no accountability, too much borrowing etc. This government should focus their energy on solving the challenges we are faced with first. The church is not our problem. The church is the reason so many businesses are alive.

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Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by themanderon: 9:53pm On Aug 20, 2020
The anti Christ is finally here in Nigeria. They tried it during the corona virus pandemic when they shut the church down for an unnecessarily long time but kept the markets open. Now we can all see the plans. In spite of all the myriads of problems bedeviling the nation, it's who controls churches that is their concern. Imagine having an atheist as the supervising minister and and he suddenly decides there is corruption and he appoints his fellow agents of darkness as members of the board, then I dare say that it's the end of that Church knowing how high handed our government officials can be.
Everyday the guys keep taking the freedoms that people enjoyed before that sad day they came into power while stupid Nigerians cheer them on without considering the long term effect of these highly demonic policies. Nigeria is not and can never be China where the government controls everything. Now they are doing the very things they accused' the previous government of doing and even worse but yet you can't speak else they label it hate speech, you cannot protest else the security agents will gun you down yet they have deliberately refused to do the right things.
It will all end in tears for all these devil worshippers in power. Our God is a God of vengeance, he delivered us before, his sword is still in his hands to do it again.

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Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by SOJOSEPH(m): 9:57pm On Aug 20, 2020
where was can during the public hearing？
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by blackboy(m): 9:58pm On Aug 20, 2020
This government thinks they can get away with anything. This is their second attempt. 2018 they tried and failed now this CAMA. They think church leadership are zombies? Big mistake. They always read between the lines and have experts if not the best working for them.
I pity this government if they keep this their attitude
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by Christian07(m): 9:59pm On Aug 20, 2020
Maximus69:


Exactly! smiley

Jesus said "we must obey Caesar"

What Jesus asked Christians is to preach and teach, this doesn't involves huge cash so there is no law those in authority can make that could affect Christians apart from depriving them to preach! Act 5:28-29 smiley



Huge cash
What are you saying
Did Jesus ask the church to be controlled by government

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Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by SaintLucia: 10:04pm On Aug 20, 2020
seguno2:


Is it that I am a liar or just an overconfident ignoramus I am
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by Nobody: 10:06pm On Aug 20, 2020
i will vote for anyone who promise to ban all religion in nigeria that is the only way will can progress in this country
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by King44(m): 10:20pm On Aug 20, 2020
It is not proper for government to control church if it happens it is finished.

Ungodly people wants to control church, it won't end well.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by Gbase36: 10:23pm On Aug 20, 2020
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truthfulparrot:
I am just thinking aloud. Is this new law not affecting Muslims too?

Why is MURIC not protesting? What if this law was introduced during Jonathan regime? How will MURIC react if Jonathan signed a law that gave government the authority to remove the Imams of any mosque?

Would CAN oppose this law if it was enacted during Jonathan's regime?

The fact is that religious inclinations has blocked the rational thinking of most Nigerians.

My honest take is that people should have the freedom to practice their religious beliefs without discrimination or government interference.

If you are a Muslim or Christian, do you call those who practice traditional religion derogatory names like pagans and idol worshippers?

Religion is really the "weed"" of the people!





Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by vislabraye(m): 10:26pm On Aug 20, 2020
techmo:
cool



Nonsense and ingredient... So CAN wants to tell us there are no Christians out of the over 400 National Assembly Lawmakers during the first and second reading, or the Public hearing of the bill



.

Not to mention a VP that's a pastor.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by Kobojunkie: 10:28pm On Aug 20, 2020
blackboy:
This government thinks they can get away with anything. This is their second attempt. 2018 they tried and failed now this CAMA. They think church leadership are zombies? Big mistake. They always read between the lines and have experts if not the best working for them.
I pity this government if they keep this their attitude
Your church is a registered business under the government of Nigeria. So long as your church wants to operate its business in Nigeria, it has to abide by the laws of the land. This is not rocket science people!
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by Kobojunkie: 10:29pm On Aug 20, 2020
ofonimi:
CAMA is an evil decree that Bible places a curse upon.
The bible does not place a curse on such things. The Bible has no such power... it is a book
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by Kobojunkie: 10:31pm On Aug 20, 2020
Kobicove:
There is no basis for the government wanting to have the power to remove the management of religious bodies undecided
There is. religious bodies of the kind in question are nothing more than registered business entities under your government there.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by SUPERPACK: 10:32pm On Aug 20, 2020
Preacherrr:
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Will you shut up your dirty mouth. The bible you are turning upside down also tells you to respect constituted authority. Even Jesus paid tax to set example of what a christian must do, obey the law of the land. And as for the trash you typed, God is not a God of crazy and bigoted people like you.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by Kobojunkie: 10:33pm On Aug 20, 2020
samuelson06:
CAMA will fail in Nigeria even if similar laws is succeeding elsewhere. Mark my words, it will fail. Government isn't God. Don't magnify them. God can direct man's heart to anywhere. Beware!
Nah! please leave God out of the world's business
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by HOD74(m): 10:44pm On Aug 20, 2020
Am not surprised with some response here, because regulating churches is tantamount to mosque, Ogbonis witch craft. But it will not happened because almost all the law markers are in one witch craft society or another. But we serve a GOD that knows the end from beginning. Let's see the foolishness of the devil and his followers.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by rummmy: 10:46pm On Aug 20, 2020
This government seems to be evil in all ramifications.
Stamp duty..
7.5% VAT.
Ruga.
Cama.
Etc
Tax on air we breathe is still loading.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by vislabraye(m): 10:46pm On Aug 20, 2020
BabaRamota1980:


The churches brought this upon themselves.

There are many muslim communities just like Zakzaky group in North. They mind their business and never get involved in govt issues. Zakyzaky stays in govt business all the time. Thats why he is in trouble now.

Jonathan set a bad precedence when he will have these pastors meddling govt business. They got too comfortable and started commenting on what govt is doing or not doing. When you are a tax exempt organization, stay away from govt the best you can. Put a long distance between you and govt. Govt has all the rules and ways to fvk up anyone, if they choose to. These churches did same thing Zakyzaky did, started fvkng with govt. So now govt wants to fcvk with them too. Its unfortunate but its reality.

There is a pastor in America called Pastor Dollar or something like that. He used to condemn govt and live large and flaunt. One of their legislators got on his case and wanted to probe him and his church. The Pastor got the message at that point.

If CAMA can bring out same result in Nigerian pastors it will be great. The money they waste on acquiring jets and building for-profit private institutions should be better used in promoting wellbeing and supporting needs of communities and people. At the end of it people benefit when churches come to their aid in time of distress and need.

Nigeria belongs to all of us, whether xtian or Moslem. I don't know what you mean by saying "pastors meddling in Government business"
I agree that there should be accountability but I don't trust this Government. This Government is used to abusing processes.
It's possible for CAMA to wake up one morning and remove the leadership of a church for a flimsy reason.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by djon78(m): 10:58pm On Aug 20, 2020
BabaRamota1980:


The churches brought this upon themselves.

There are many muslim communities just like Zakzaky group in North. They mind their business and never get involved in govt issues. Zakyzaky stays in govt business all the time. Thats why he is in trouble now.

Jonathan set a bad precedence when he will have these pastors meddling govt business. They got too comfortable and started commenting on what govt is doing or not doing. When you are a tax exempt organization, stay away from govt the best you can. Put a long distance between you and govt. Govt has all the rules and ways to fvk up anyone, if they choose to. These churches did same thing Zakyzaky did, started fvkng with govt. So now govt wants to fcvk with them too. Its unfortunate but its reality.

There is a pastor in America called Pastor Dollar or something like that. He used to condemn govt and live large and flaunt. One of their legislators got on his case and wanted to probe him and his church. The Pastor got the message at that point.

If CAMA can bring out same result in Nigerian pastors it will be great. The money they waste on acquiring jets and building for-profit private institutions should be better used in promoting wellbeing and supporting needs of communities and people. At the end of it people benefit when churches come to their aid in time of distress and need.



Did they touch creflo dollar? No
He told them he was not answerable to them, and nothing happened.


Anybody fighting against the church is fighting against God
It is very very very dangerous

You can't fight your maker
Jesus said I will build my church and the gates of hell cannot prevail.


Irrespective of whatever they do
It will not touch the church in anyway
Never



I remember a church that had land
And one past government in the south
Wanted to take over the land as a result of the power they wield

The pastor said lai lai
Two government officials used bulldozer
To pull down the fence

The pastor picked up a block from the fence that was pulled down
And made a declaration
That if God didn't call him
That those two men will not escape divine judgement
Not up to two weeks
Those two officials
Died within the space of a day

Na run the state government
Run from the land
No be person tell them


People don't fear God again
Anybody that tampers with God's thing
Is playing with fire and eternal damnation
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by safetyboot: 10:58pm On Aug 20, 2020
BUT THE NUMBER 2 MAN IS A PASTOR; WHY ARE ALL THESE ANTI-CHRISTIAN LAWS COMING FROM HIS GOVERNMENT?
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by NwaliE01: 11:01pm On Aug 20, 2020
Brandstudio01:
So who controls the Church is now more important than dozens of needs pressing the nation and it's citizens?

What could really be wrong with black man?

Abeg jare , I will Design a Professional Logo for your product or Business for 2k Only
I am of no doubt that you're mentally sick.
Your quest for 2K only has becloud your sense of reasoning.
You must not comment on a topic if you have no meaningful contribution to make.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by samuelson06(m): 11:03pm On Aug 20, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Nah! please leave God out of the world's business

What's God's business to you? How do you define it? School me, please.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by Kobojunkie: 11:05pm On Aug 20, 2020
samuelson06:
What's God's business to you? How do you define it? School me, please.
God is only concerned with His followers and their obedience to His Commandments. Your churches and their existences as business entities of the world have nothing to do with God, but the world.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by djon78(m): 11:11pm On Aug 20, 2020
Kobojunkie:
God is only concerned with His followers and their obedience to His Commandments. Your churches and their existences as business entities of the world have nothing to do with God, but the world.

God is concerned with everything under the sun
Even government on earth was instituted by God
To maintain law and order
If there was no government
There will be chaos on the earth
Read Roman's 15
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by writeprof(m): 11:13pm On Aug 20, 2020
techmo:
cool



Nonsense and ingredient... So CAN wants to tell us there are no Christians out of the over 400 National Assembly Lawmakers during the first and second reading, or the Public hearing of the bill

.

Mention the Christian you know there!
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by Kobojunkie: 11:15pm On Aug 20, 2020
djon78:


God is concerned with everything under the sun
Even government on earth was instituted by God
To maintain law and order
If there was no government
There will be chaos on the earth
Read Roman's 15
Sure, God runs the whole show. He is God over all things after all. But He does not rule you through your governments and your laws.
Your churches as well as the world governments belong in the hands of the men that run them and their worldly schemes with which they run them with.
Re: CAN Rejects CAMA, Says Government Cannot Control Churches by djon78(m): 11:19pm On Aug 20, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Sure, God runs the whole show. He is God over all things after all. But He does not rule you through your governments and your laws.
Your churches as well as the world governments belong in the hands of the men that run them and their worldly schemes with which they run them with.


Romans 13
King James Version
13 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.

6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.

7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.



This was St Pauls instruction to the romans
Mind you Rome during Paul's days was a terrible hedonistic natiin
But they were instituted by God

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