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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Bluebyrd: 2:24am On Aug 27, 2020
Roland17:
Can anyone imagine if Kyle Rittenhouse was a black man? Would he be alive today?
Why wouldn't he be if he doesn't resist arrest or aim his weapon at cops?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Bluebyrd: 2:45am On Aug 27, 2020
Under Wisconsin law, the shooter did not commit any illegal act by being present on the streets of Kenosha carrying a loaded long-gun. As for the shooting episode, the shooter is clearly attempting to get away from the people who are pursuing him. They surrounded him and started attacking him after he tripped and fell at which point he started shooting. This is a clear case of self defense use of deadly force.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 2:45am On Aug 27, 2020
Roland17:
Can anyone imagine if Kyle Rittenhouse was a black man? Would he be alive today?
A black guy not even carrying a gun got 7 bullet pumped into his back.

This white boy had his hand on his rifle at some point close to the police, and the police let him pass despite people shouting to the police that he was the shooter. They did not even bother to make an arrest.

That's white privilege.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 2:50am On Aug 27, 2020
Another example of white privilege below:

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Bluebyrd: 2:59am On Aug 27, 2020
We are getting more details on why the governor of Wisconsin finally accepted Trump's offer of help with the national guard. Apparently, the Kenosha County Board of Supervisors sent a stinging letter to the Democrat governor calling his response “woefully inadequate” and demanding he accept Present Trump’s offer of help.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Bluebyrd: 3:12am On Aug 27, 2020
Kyle Rittenhouse earlier gave interviews to two separate reporters about what he was doing there, armed in Kenosha. As he explains in one interview to the Daily Caller’s Richie McGinness, he was there to help protect the businesses and to help people who get hurt with his medic bag, that he may be “running into harm’s way that’s why he has his rifle.”

https://mobile.twitter.com/RichieMcGinniss/status/1298657958205820928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Bluebyrd: 3:18am On Aug 27, 2020
The second interview was by Elijah Schafer who posted this on Twitter

CONTEXT: "I spoke with the alleged shooter earlier in the night who stated he was there to protect property

He did not make racist comments, condemn BLM, or mention political motivations for his actions

He said that he was there to protect property & was carrying a firearm

The shooter was offering medical help to BLM rioters earlier in the night

So the whole premise that he was a white supremacist or the shooting took place due to political disagreements become more difficult to prove

Also, he stated why he was armed and there"

https://mobile.twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1298567156842586113?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Roland17(m): 3:33am On Aug 27, 2020
Bluebyrd:
Under Wisconsin law, the shooter did not commit any illegal act by being present on the streets of Kenosha carrying a loaded long-gun. As for the shooting episode, the shooter is clearly attempting to get away from the people who are pursuing him. They surrounded him and started attacking him after he tripped and fell at which point he started shooting. This is a clear case of self defense use of deadly force.

Under Wisconsin law you said? Hahahahahahhahaha!

What do you know about laws, especially gun laws in Wisconsin, Illinois or even the midwest for that matter? Let me assure you that you don't want to go down that lane with me.

Do you realize Kyle Rittenhouse was already committing a Class A Misdemeanor by carrying a dealdly weapon in Wisconsin at 17? The exception in Wisconsin for 16-17-year-olds is to use only "Shot guns" and for hunting purposes only, nothing more. So please tell me the young man was hunting deers amongst protesters..

Kyle is from Illinois and Illinois gun laws says you must be 21 and above before you can get a FOID card. Both Wisconsin and Illinois laws do not recognize stand your gorund laws.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Bluebyrd: 3:39am On Aug 27, 2020
Attending a Trump rally is not a criminal offence or racist, supporting blue lives matter is not a criminal offence or racist so I don't know why some people are insinuating that there's something wrong with Kyle Rittenhouse supporting blue lives matter and attended a Trump rally.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 3:41am On Aug 27, 2020
The protesters were chasing Rittenhouse after he allegedly shot a man in the head, according to reports.

Looks like citizen arrest, then he decides to shoot more people.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Bluebyrd: 3:46am On Aug 27, 2020
Roland17:


Under Wisconsin law you said? Hahahahahahhahaha!

What do you know about laws, especially gun laws in Wisconsin, Illinois or even the midwest for that matter? Let me assure you that you don't want to go down that lane with me.

Do you realize Kyle Rittenhouse was already committing a Class A Misdemeanor by carrying a dealdly weapon in Wisconsin at 17? The exception in Wisconsin for 16-17-year-olds is to use only "Shot guns" and for hunting purposes only, nothing more. So please tell me the young man was hunting deers amongst protesters..

Kyle is from Illinois and Illinois gun laws says you must be 21 and above before you can get a FOID card. Both Wisconsin and Illinois laws do not recognize stand your gorund laws.
That's the only offence he committed, the misdemeanor charge of being underage. The incident had nothing to do with "stand your ground" laws as he was clearly running away from his attackers. He didn't shoot to defend a property, he shot in self defense at people who were chasing after him and attacked him after he fell down.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AbdulSleeky: 3:49am On Aug 27, 2020
Bluebyrd:

Whoever charged him with first degree murder is a fool. Now in addition to proving he killed them not acting in self defense (Which will be difficult giving the video evidence), the prosecutor will now also have to prove that it was premeditated. This will be impossible on the face of it unless they have other evidence that is not available to the public. If it's the same information we have now then forget all the outrage you are seeing from the media, that guy will be freed on bail in his first appearance in court then he will be acquitted and discharged. Wisconsin is an open carry state so he didn't commit any offence carrying his weapons in open.


From what I have read, the shooter travelled in from another state with a gun he should not be legally holding. This creates a problem for his defence.

Also, why do conservatives/republicans take joy in defending people who murder blacks?

Killer of Trayvon Martin
Killer of Breonna Taylor
Killer of George Floyd


At some point, you have to realise that you enjoy black people being killed.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Bluebyrd: 3:54am On Aug 27, 2020
salford1:
The protesters were chasing Rittenhouse after he allegedly shot a man in the head, according to reports.

Looks like citizen arrest, then he decides to shoot more people.
The poster of that tweet lied. They were already chasing him before he shot the first person. The video of that first shooting is also available, they chased him into a service station and attacked him, that's when he shot the first person. He then called 911 and when he saw the cops coming, he started running in their direction, that's when the second video was taken of them chasing and attacking him again before he shot the second person.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 3:55am On Aug 27, 2020
AbdulSleeky:



From what I have read, the shooter travelled in from another state with a gun he should not be legally holding. This creates a problem for his defence.

Also, why do conservatives/republicans take joy in defending people who murder blacks?

Killer of Trayvon Martin
Killer of Breonna Taylor
Killer of George Floyd


At some point, you have to realise that you enjoy black people being killed.
I do not understand too. Probably some sort of inferiority complex or just simply cooning.

Even the stupid NewYork Post could not twist the story.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Bluebyrd: 3:56am On Aug 27, 2020
AbdulSleeky:



From what I have read, the shooter travelled in from another state with a gun he should not be legally holding. This creates a problem for his defence.

Also, why do conservatives/republicans take joy in defending people who murder blacks?

Killer of Trayvon Martin
Killer of Breonna Taylor
Killer of George Floyd


At some point, you have to realise that you enjoy black people being killed.
It doesn't create any problem for the defence if the charge is first degree murder. FYI, the person he shot was not black and I have never defended the killing of any of the black people you listed above so your accusation is baseless.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 4:02am On Aug 27, 2020
Roland17:


Under Wisconsin law you said? Hahahahahahhahaha!

What do you know about laws, especially gun laws in Wisconsin, Illinois or even the midwest for that matter? Let me assure you that you don't want to go down that lane with me.

Do you realize Kyle Rittenhouse was already committing a Class A Misdemeanor by carrying a dealdly weapon in Wisconsin at 17? The exception in Wisconsin for 16-17-year-olds is to use only "Shot guns" and for hunting purposes only, nothing more. So please tell me the young man was hunting deers amongst protesters..

Kyle is from Illinois and Illinois gun laws says you must be 21 and above before you can get a FOID card. Both Wisconsin and Illinois laws do not recognize stand your gorund laws.
It seems you don't know our experts on Nairaland. They would soon be on there way to defend Kyle in court grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AbdulSleeky: 4:12am On Aug 27, 2020
Bluebyrd:

It doesn't create any problem for the defence if the charge is first degree murder. FYI, the person he shot was not black and I have never defended the killing of any of the black people you listed above so your accusation is baseless.


Wait, from what I read, he shot at least 3 people- and they were chasing him because he shot someone at first.

If these are the facts, his self defence argument may not hold up.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AbdulSleeky: 4:14am On Aug 27, 2020
salford1:

I do not understand too. Probably some sort of inferiority complex or just simply cooning.

Even the stupid NewYork Post could not twist the story.

Can you imagine?

They like people who shoot blacks and BLM.

That is how one conservative fool here was defending the shooters of Armaud Arbery

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 4:24am On Aug 27, 2020
AbdulSleeky:


Can you imagine?

They like people who shoot blacks and BLM.

That is how one conservative fool here was defending the shooters of Armaud Arbery
Don't call them conservatives. They are cultists.
I know what it means to be conservatives, but these ones are not.

More like far-right black people which I find very strange cheesy

They are also probably the type that would rob their mouth on the ground just to please a white person wherever they find one.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Bluebyrd: 4:31am On Aug 27, 2020
AbdulSleeky:



Wait, from what I read, he shot at least 3 people- and they were chasing him because he shot someone at first.

If these are the facts, his self defence argument may not hold up.
They were already chasing and attacking him before he shot the first person. I've watched all the videos, all three people he shot were attacking him physically. The first person he shot was also attacking him, watch the video here.

https://mobile.twitter.com/stillgray/status/1298704864843685890?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1298704864843685890%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redstate.com%2Fnick-arama%2F2020%2F08%2F26%2Finterviews-with-alleged-kenosha-shooter-kyle-rittenhouse%2F

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by CutieKing: 4:39am On Aug 27, 2020
I thought they claim this guy mike Pence is a Christian..
Cos i dont know when Christianity permits people to lie openly this way.
Nearly all his rhetorics and political speech tonight were lies.
Starting with the federal agent killed in oakland linking it to the protest at the time is irresponsible and an insult to the family of the dead man,infact they were far from each other and it was a white supremacy member who shot the man and drove off before he was arrested thereafter.
We have seen a lot of white supremacy operatives infiltrating those protesters to cause chaos and violence and later blame it on the protesters.another example is the umbrella man in minneapolis and just recently a juvenile in Wisconsin.
One thing i know for sure is this show of shame they called convention will not move a needle as they are only ministering to their base.
Just less than 70days to go.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Futuragetty: 5:50am On Aug 27, 2020
Bluebyrd:

It doesn't create any problem for the defence if the charge is first degree murder. FYI, the person he shot was not black and I have never defended the killing of any of the black people you listed above so your accusation is baseless.
The charge is certainly first degree murder. Motive is already established. the young man drove all the way down to WS.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by mattfeuter(m): 6:21am On Aug 27, 2020
Roland17:


Under Wisconsin law you said? Hahahahahahhahaha!

What do you know about laws, especially gun laws in Wisconsin, Illinois or even the midwest for that matter? Let me assure you that you don't want to go down that lane with me.

Do you realize Kyle Rittenhouse was already committing a Class A Misdemeanor by carrying a dealdly weapon in Wisconsin at 17? The exception in Wisconsin for 16-17-year-olds is to use only "Shot guns" and for hunting purposes only, nothing more. So please tell me the young man was hunting deers amongst protesters..

Kyle is from Illinois and Illinois gun laws says you must be 21 and above before you can get a FOID card. Both Wisconsin and Illinois laws do not recognize stand your gorund laws.

That troll isn’t worth your time.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 7:19am On Aug 27, 2020
There are some untruths being peddled.
He shot a person first Then he was chased down and then shot two more.
This does not make sense. There is that guy slamming him on the head with a skateboard. Do you run after an armed guy (who has just shot someone ) with a skateboard? The shooter is down on tarmac holding a rifle and the guy is hitting him with a skateboard.
And the guy shot in the hand is holding a pistol in the hand that was shot? Why was this guy carrying a pistol.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 7:21am On Aug 27, 2020
salford1:

He is not like in Canada too even as far back as 2017 when he attended the G7 meeting.

I live in a very conservative province, yet majority of the people here despise Trump even before the tariff wars.
Those are the real conservatives no sane conservative will support Trump he has hijacked the republican party and even VP pence was caught lying multiple times at the RNC


Many Trump supporters here watch Qanon and stupid conspiracy theories.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by pryme(m): 7:27am On Aug 27, 2020
salford1:

Well. He was declared a fugitive meaning he fled or ran to escape arrest. I am glad his ass is in detention now awaiting a visit to the court.

First degree intentional homicide. I only hope he gets sentenced as an adult..Law and order cheesy

You never disappoint, since when did self defense become
intentional murder
?
Good heavens !!!

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 7:27am On Aug 27, 2020
Bluebyrd:

The poster of that tweet lied. They were already chasing him before he shot the first person. The video of that first shooting is also available, they chased him into a service station and attacked him, that's when he shot the first person. He then called 911 and when he saw the cops coming, he started running in their direction, that's when the second video was taken of them chasing and attacking him again before he shot the second person.
Video? Come on Blue, just admit you were there witnessing it all!

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by pryme(m): 7:28am On Aug 27, 2020
salford1:

Well. He was declared a fugitive meaning he fled or ran to escape arrest. I am glad his ass is in detention now awaiting a visit to the court.

First degree intentional homicide. I only hope he gets sentenced as an adult..Law and order cheesy

You never disappoint, since when did self defense become intentional murder?
Good heavens !!!

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 7:31am On Aug 27, 2020
CutieKing:



Hahaha......why are you responding to these retards??.
Why wasting your precious time lecturing those who have no brain or common sense to begin with.these people live in the village in nigeria.save yourself the stress,they are irredeemable.
My brother,
The more you try to redeem them,the more they would want you to become like them.
They are all stupid and foolish.
If you don't mind me saying, Roland17 educated me and I'm grateful he did.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 7:44am On Aug 27, 2020
pryme:


You never disappoint, since when did self defense become intentional murder?
Good heavens !!!
Maybe you know more than the Kenosha County authorities that charged him for murder.

Anyways, when was the last time you had an eye exam? or apparently, I work for CBS Chicago now.

Oh let me guess. You probably have images set to off to save data on a tiny browser like opera mini grin

Now turn on your image and check the screenshots. Read paragraph 2 slowly.

Thank you Salford1. cool

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 7:47am On Aug 27, 2020
CutieKing:
I thought they claim this guy mike Pence is a Christian..
Cos i dont know when Christianity permits people to lie openly this way.
Nearly all his rhetorics and political speech tonight were lies.
Starting with the federal agent killed in oakland linking it to the protest at the time is irresponsible and an insult to the family of the dead man,infact they were far from each other and it was a white supremacy member who shot the man and drove off before he was arrested thereafter.
We have seen a lot of white supremacy operatives infiltrating those protesters to cause chaos and violence and later blame it on the protesters.another example is the umbrella man in minneapolis and just recently a juvenile in Wisconsin.
One thing i know for sure is this show of shame they called convention will not move a needle as they are only ministering to their base.
Just less than 70days to go.
If you believe that con is a pastor, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell to you grin

It's no different from Trump(the porn star fvcker) holding a Bible upside down. grin

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