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Re: HND Holders Threaten Industrial Action, Lament Discrimination by AkwaIbomMan(m): 9:55am On Aug 29, 2020
Adeniran906:
most people ended in poly score 200 above,mine as a case scored 214 and end up in poly
214 is a mediocre if not poor of a UTME score

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Re: HND Holders Threaten Industrial Action, Lament Discrimination by GboyegaD(m): 11:43am On Aug 29, 2020
bsalva:
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Honestly the two citadel are different.

We all know they are however, the discrimination is uncalled for. Graduates of each should know their role and act in their capacity. Unfortunately, ours is a class society and we put that into all.
Re: HND Holders Threaten Industrial Action, Lament Discrimination by Jemerson: 2:06pm On Aug 29, 2020
saaphiere:
Good morning to you. Hope you're fine. Happy weekend.

I'm fine. Happy weekend to you too

Re: HND Holders Threaten Industrial Action, Lament Discrimination by Nobody: 2:25pm On Aug 29, 2020
These guys are missing it, monotechnics and polytechnics were designed to bridge the nations technical gap, they were not intended to sit on desks and compete with university graduates.

Blame the emphasis on certificates rather than competence for this problem.

If every school becomes a university who will fix our cars, roads, man our tech drive?

Foreigners from other countries who education is less than our HND.

We must learn to prioritize competence and practical knowledge over certificates and certification.

An expert is an expert because they know their onions not because of certificates and membership to some bogus association that just collects membership fees and does nothing to improve competence of its members.

The proliferation of many so called professional bodies in the country proves this.

All talk and no do.

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Re: HND Holders Threaten Industrial Action, Lament Discrimination by Nobody: 2:34pm On Aug 29, 2020
kingsvictor2:
you just proved my point man. Given the two choices of university and polytechnics, nobody ever chooses poly. They are 2nd choices when u can't see urself in d 1st. Poly graduates should for once respect who respect is due, degree is ahead by miles. Dat is why banks rush diploma holders simply because they can't afford degree holders; not dat they prefer diploma, no no. In fact, sensitive positions in banks are never trusted to a diploma holder, never. Degree is like Lexus 350, diploma is like Peugeot 206
But saying polytechnic graduates are dullards is completely off point as some people have claimed.
Re: HND Holders Threaten Industrial Action, Lament Discrimination by Nobody: 2:36pm On Aug 29, 2020
Jemerson:

I'm fine. Happy weekend to you too
Wow!
Re: HND Holders Threaten Industrial Action, Lament Discrimination by mrbenjame: 2:53pm On Aug 29, 2020
salbis:
. More than half of HND holders would have opted for B.Sc if given the opportunity. Some HND holders may be smart and intelligent, but certainly, the two are never on the same level.


What do you mean? Can’t be compared how? Why won’t they opt for the university if you people were not feeling you are better than them. It’s because of the same discrimination that makes them opt for the university. I bet you if the dichotomy stops I tell you the table will turn around. You’ll see how many people will opt for the university. Nobody will look at the university two times. Let’s be honest to ourselves. I attended both. So I’ve seen what both looks like. You can’t stand a polytechnic graduate in his field.
Re: HND Holders Threaten Industrial Action, Lament Discrimination by ibuildstuff(m): 4:52pm On Aug 29, 2020
quentin06:
These guys are missing it, monotechnics and polytechnics were designed to bridge the nations technical gap, they were not intended to sit on desks and compete with university graduates.

Blame the emphasis on certificates rather than competence for this problem.

If every school becomes a university who will fix our cars, roads, man our tech drive?

Foreigners from other countries who education is less than our HND.

We must learn to prioritize competence and practical knowledge over certificates and certification.

An expert is an expert because they know their onions not because of certificates and membership to some bogus association that just collects membership fees and does nothing to improve competence of its members.

The proliferation of many so called professional bodies in the country proves this.

All talk and no do.
You are so wrong, u have no idea, hnd holders are technologist not artisans.

When the degree guys do the theorical design, the hnd guys are the ones that check if the design is actually practicable n also build the design.
Hnd holder are not made to repair but build. But in Nigeria today no one design no one build.

Secondly there's really no need for hnd. We have universities of technology which teach exactly what is been taught in polytechnic and they award btech.

So the hnd thing should just be scrape, it's really of no use.
Re: HND Holders Threaten Industrial Action, Lament Discrimination by TheCork(m): 7:38pm On Aug 29, 2020
sapphiere:
Wow!


Kaiiii.. see nyansh!!!. Love to hit it
Anyways Hello please can I get to no u. I drive BMW & I beento London 10 times. What yor phone nomba please sweery? cheesy
Re: HND Holders Threaten Industrial Action, Lament Discrimination by afonjabreed(m): 8:09pm On Aug 29, 2020
Dminister:
How can BSC and HND be equal? Please check the two and you will know the reason they can't be equal.

Just imagine the irony of fighting for BSC and HND equality. During the time of Jamb registration you didn't register for jamb because you had only four credits then you choose to wait for MPCE Jamb because it's only polytechnics and colleges of education that accepts fours credit passes.



I got my BSC after the rigorous journey of having five credit passes to write jamb and score above 200, Now you are protesting for equality when you could work hard the same way I worked hard. They must be joking.

Oga I did my waec once and I had 6 credits , 1 A,2Bs and 1E in economics
My first jamb attempt I had 245 but I'm still in poly.

Looking at your result which you went through RIGOROUS stress to get you're not in any way better than me.
Some People end up in poly not because they have low marks ,some are victims of this Nepotism filled system

I know this equality thing might take time or may not happen , but your acclaimed result is poor

Rigorous stress because of five credit ?

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Re: HND Holders Threaten Industrial Action, Lament Discrimination by Adeniran906(m): 8:55pm On Aug 29, 2020
AkwaIbomMan:
214 is a mediocre if not poor of a UTME score
That 214 that u called mediocre got most candidate to uni
Re: HND Holders Threaten Industrial Action, Lament Discrimination by adubiay: 12:12am On Aug 30, 2020
saaphiere:
Taken to where? I can never fall into you all trap again. I realized all you men want from a lady is sex and nothing more. Giving ladies fake marriage promise. Once they get in between your legs they voom.

This is not an intelligent response, don't fall my hand please. How many weddings have u attended this year. Who married the ladies? Just pray your own man locate you, and when he does, pray that you don't ignore him base on petty excuses
Re: HND Holders Threaten Industrial Action, Lament Discrimination by Nobody: 1:39am On Aug 30, 2020
adubiay:


This is not an intelligent response, don't fall my hand please. How many weddings have u attended this year. Who married the ladies? Just pray your own man locate you, and when he does, pray that you don't ignore him base on petty excuses
Thanks.
Re: HND Holders Threaten Industrial Action, Lament Discrimination by Nobody: 7:06am On Aug 30, 2020
Morrison91:

Mugu.... Be fooling yourself
I'm HND in civil Engineering.with a Destinction. .. And I can't even count the number of university Engineering graduades I have taught practically, I don't just want to mention the names of their Big universities

You're talking in the rubbish. If you got to a company before another employee, you have to teach them on the job. Even you were at some point taught on the job.

Fresh graduates don't know anything before their first jobs. It's worse from the polytechnic because the practical that goes on there is a big hoax.

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Re: HND Holders Threaten Industrial Action, Lament Discrimination by Nobody: 7:14am On Aug 30, 2020
SegFault:

Which dirty 168? Come on, commot for here. After una don settle finish una go come here dey look down on poly students. I am not a poly student but these university students dey vex person, after cheating your way through the system you come to feel boss. Nna ehm.

If you want to know where the mother of all cheating resides, visit some state polytechnics.

And BTW, if it's easy to cheat your way through the university, you can also go and buy a degree to find out. If you finish with third class, na your mama head follow you.

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Re: HND Holders Threaten Industrial Action, Lament Discrimination by Nobody: 7:22am On Aug 30, 2020
GboyegaD:



Why are the Polytechnic graduates who were fortunate to attend the university the ones ridiculing their Polytechnic graduates counterpart.
That's not true. The poly guy is the one trying to ridicule universities and I find it funny because he doesn't need it. Fight against the discrimination without trying to make universities look like a distasteful joke.

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Re: HND Holders Threaten Industrial Action, Lament Discrimination by Nobody: 7:38am On Aug 30, 2020
ojib:
thanks with your pride that leads you always to the canal.

I pay salaries of BSc holders with my HND. and make an HND HOLDER their boss.. Most of you can't think beyond what you see.

keep bragging with your BSc while we keep making it..

Olodo.



This is the issue. You are biased and sympathetic towards the HND guy and eventually couldn't hide it so you made him boss. Why not just employ only HND graduates so that the best heads can work in your company? grin

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Re: HND Holders Threaten Industrial Action, Lament Discrimination by edoairways: 8:05am On Aug 30, 2020
quentin06:
These guys are missing it, monotechnics and polytechnics were designed to bridge the nations technical gap, they were not intended to sit on desks and compete with university graduates.

Blame the emphasis on certificates rather than competence for this problem.

If every school becomes a university who will fix our cars, roads, man our tech drive?

Foreigners from other countries who education is less than our HND.

We must learn to prioritize competence and practical knowledge over certificates and certification.

An expert is an expert because they know their onions not because of certificates and membership to some bogus association that just collects membership fees and does nothing to improve competence of its members.

The proliferation of many so called professional bodies in the country proves this.

All talk and no do.
You are absolutely correct
Re: HND Holders Threaten Industrial Action, Lament Discrimination by Nobody: 8:58am On Aug 30, 2020
ThreeBlackBird:


If you want to know where the mother of all cheating resides, visit some state polytechnics.

And BTW, if it's easy to cheat your way through the university, you can also go and buy a degree to find out. If you finish with third class, na your mama head follow you.
The last thing I can do in this life is to buy a degree. What do I gain at the end?
Re: HND Holders Threaten Industrial Action, Lament Discrimination by edoairways: 9:55am On Aug 30, 2020
Chukwudi4naija:
This HND holders with their entitlement mentality. This discrimination has been there for ages and you think this is the right time to change the status quo, having lagged behind in intellect with your contemporaries who struggled so hard to beat the admission standard obtainable in universities.

No one in Nigeria would have desired polytechnic education if given an option to attend university. So why crying fowl now. It's never a rewarding adventure to compromise standard. Always aim to be among the best to avoid unnecessary struggle to upturn reality.
Don't say what you don't know.
Re: HND Holders Threaten Industrial Action, Lament Discrimination by Nobody: 10:46am On Aug 30, 2020
SegFault:

The last thing I can do in this life is to buy a degree. What do I gain at the end?
But you bought a diploma. What did you gain either?
Re: HND Holders Threaten Industrial Action, Lament Discrimination by Nobody: 10:47am On Aug 30, 2020
ThreeBlackBird:

But you bought a diploma. What did you gain either?
Mr assumer. Did I tell you that I have a diploma. Nigerians self
Re: HND Holders Threaten Industrial Action, Lament Discrimination by Dminister(m): 11:42am On Aug 30, 2020
tongue
afonjabreed:


Oga I did my waec once and I had 6 credits , 1 A,2Bs and 1E in economics
My first jamb attempt I had 245 but I'm still in poly.

Looking at your result which you went through RIGOROUS stress to get you're not in any way better than me.
Some People end up in poly not because they have low marks ,some are victims of this Nepotism filled system

I know this equality thing might take time or may not happen , but your acclaimed result is poor

Rigorous stress because of five credit ?


Okay, I am replying to this very late because I am a very busy person. I expected someone to quote me, but, I didn't have the chance to check and reply the same time.


I hope you digested your quotes very well before you posted your conclusions. As for your understanding, I gave an example, as in an illustrations why BSC and HND can't be rated the same. There is no where I mentioned I have five credit passes.
I have seen the reason why many polytechnic graduates lack understanding a simple theory.

For the fact that you have already made your conclusions, I expect you to place a clause on the subject matter that I am better than you.
Did you ask yourself why our educational system requires one to have minimum of five credit passes per university's entry requirements and why the polytechnics entry requirements is minimum of four credit passes?

You were aware of the discrepancy before you chose to get HND, Why are you competing with BSC holders and protesting for equality? This is just a feeling of inferiority. It is absolutely not normal.
You wanted HND to protest for BSC and HND equality later? This is just an example of students trying to pass exam through the backdoor.

There is always a scale of preference. You either choose the first one or the last one, you can as well have both results. You guys should stop trying to force what can never be. If you wants BSC you can go get it. Why disturbing the polity? The system is filled with too many problems already.

It would be unfair to be expecting university Diploma holders to start protesting for Diploma and HND equality too.

I want you to know 6 credit passes is still average result considering five credit passes a poor result.
Re: HND Holders Threaten Industrial Action, Lament Discrimination by Nobody: 11:42am On Aug 30, 2020
SegFault:

Mr assumer. Did I tell you that I have a diploma. Nigerians self

So what do you have exactly that makes you feel you qualify for this discussion?
Re: HND Holders Threaten Industrial Action, Lament Discrimination by Dminister(m): 11:44am On Aug 30, 2020
Okay
Re: HND Holders Threaten Industrial Action, Lament Discrimination by Coder2Client(m): 1:55pm On Aug 30, 2020
saaphiere:
Taken to where? I can never fall into you all trap again. I realized all you men want from a lady is sex and nothing more . Giving ladies fake marriage promise. Once they get in between your legs they voom.

So, with your shakara you've been sampled by some dudes... Chai

But during those periods I believe you did enjoy the sex too...
Re: HND Holders Threaten Industrial Action, Lament Discrimination by Nobody: 2:55pm On Aug 30, 2020
ibuildstuff:

You are so wrong, u have no idea, hnd holders are technologist not artisans.

When the degree guys do the theorical design, the hnd guys are the ones that check if the design is actually practicable n also build the design.
Hnd holder are not made to repair but build. But in Nigeria today no one design no one build.

Secondly there's really no need for hnd. We have universities of technology which teach exactly what is been taught in polytechnic and they award btech.

So the hnd thing should just be scrape, it's really of no use.

Sorry the HND system didnt teach you use of English.

An artisan doesn't have a college degree, give an artisan a degree he as good as any graduate.

BTW there is nothing wrong with artisans, most of them own businesses and employ graduates like you.
Many of your female colleagues open their legs wide for artisans than they do for PhD blokes.
Re: HND Holders Threaten Industrial Action, Lament Discrimination by afonjabreed(m): 3:01pm On Aug 30, 2020
Dminister:
tongue


Okay, I am replying to this very late because I am a very busy person. I expected someone to quote me, but, I didn't have the chance to check and reply the same time.


I hope you digested your quotes very well before you posted your conclusions. As for your understanding, I gave an example, as in an illustrations why BSC and HND can't be rated the same. There is no where I mentioned I have five credit passes.
I have seen the reason why many polytechnic graduates lack understanding a simple theory.

For the fact that you have already made your conclusions, I expect you to place a clause on the subject matter that I am better than you.
Did you ask yourself why our educational system requires one to have minimum of five credit passes per university's entry requirements and why the polytechnics entry requirements is minimum of four credit passes?

You were aware of the discrepancy before you chose to get HND, Why are you competing with BSC holders and protesting for equality? This is just a feeling of inferiority. It is absolutely not normal.
You wanted HND to protest for BSC and HND equality later? This is just an example of students trying to pass exam through the backdoor.

There is always a scale of preference. You either choose the first one or the last one, you can as well have both results. You guys should stop trying to force what can never be. If you wants BSC you can go get it. Why disturbing the polity? The system is filled with too many problems already.

It would be unfair to be expecting university Diploma holders to start protesting for Diploma and HND equality too.

I want you to know 6 credit passes is still average result considering five credit passes a poor result.





Oga I don't know about other polytechnics but the Federal polytechnic I attend doesn't accept four credits . You can check it out yourself (Federal Polytechnic Ede) .

With what you wrote I can see that you are the one who lacks understanding , I'm still an OND and I'm planning on running a direct entry after OND.
What I was trying to correct about your impression was the fact that you thought people who attend university had better results than those who attend polytechnic.
I could have gotten into FUOYE without stress but that university isn't worth it....

As long as collar jobs are still certificate oriented I know they cannot be equal .

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Re: HND Holders Threaten Industrial Action, Lament Discrimination by ibuildstuff(m): 3:27pm On Aug 30, 2020
quentin06:


Sorry the HND system didnt teach you use of English.

An artisan doesn't have a college degree, give an artisan a degree he as good as any graduate.

BTW there is nothing wrong with artisans, most of them own businesses and employ graduates like you.
Many of your female colleagues open their legs wide for artisans than they do for PhD blokes.
I didn't say there's anything wrong with artisans but u are mistaking the role of hnd for artisans, I was only trying to correct you.

What u said made absolutely no sense to what I said.

My point what that BSC design while hnd build what the bsc has design not repair.

Am not trying to belittle anyone here, I don't think I even insulted u in my post.
Re: HND Holders Threaten Industrial Action, Lament Discrimination by ibuildstuff(m): 3:29pm On Aug 30, 2020
Dminister:
tongue


Okay, I am replying to this very late because I am a very busy person. I expected someone to quote me, but, I didn't have the chance to check and reply the same time.


I hope you digested your quotes very well before you posted your conclusions. As for your understanding, I gave an example, as in an illustrations why BSC and HND can't be rated the same. There is no where I mentioned I have five credit passes.
I have seen the reason why many polytechnic graduates lack understanding a simple theory.

For the fact that you have already made your conclusions, I expect you to place a clause on the subject matter that I am better than you.
Did you ask yourself why our educational system requires one to have minimum of five credit passes per university's entry requirements and why the polytechnics entry requirements is minimum of four credit passes?

You were aware of the discrepancy before you chose to get HND, Why are you competing with BSC holders and protesting for equality? This is just a feeling of inferiority. It is absolutely not normal.
You wanted HND to protest for BSC and HND equality later? This is just an example of students trying to pass exam through the backdoor.

There is always a scale of preference. You either choose the first one or the last one, you can as well have both results. You guys should stop trying to force what can never be. If you wants BSC you can go get it. Why disturbing the polity? The system is filled with too many problems already.

It would be unfair to be expecting university Diploma holders to start protesting for Diploma and HND equality too.

I want you to know 6 credit passes is still average result considering five credit passes a poor result.




I would rather have an HND from PTI than a BSC from most Nigeria university honestly.

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