Stats: 3,192,033 members, 7,946,487 topics. Date: Wednesday, 11 September 2024 at 07:07 PM |
Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Religion / Jesus Christ Is Not Different From The Father!!! (1387 Views)
Olukoya Not Different From Rev King Who Was Convicted Of Killing Church Members / Everything In The Bible Is Not Different From Science And Maths. See Why!! / Jesus Is Not Different From Yeshua (2) (3) (4)
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not Different From The Father!!! by Dtruthspeaker: 12:43pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
jamesid29: Amen brother, Amen! |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not Different From The Father!!! by Dtruthspeaker: 1:42pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: My view respectfully is that we Know Some One Commanded "Let there be Light" like a King Would Do and Someone Else Carried out the Commandment as One Bound to Obey shall do. Revelation 5 Resolves This issue by telling us that there is He Who Sits on the Throne (That is Definitely A King for it is Always A King Who Sits on a Throne) and you already know that The Lamb Who was Slain is Christ. Who Himself has told us that He Never Does His Own Will But the will of One Who Sends Him John 6:38 (Therefore, One bound to Obey as we have seen in Genesis). Thus, we have a King and Another Who does the Will and Commandment of the King! MuttleyLaff: I just visited Nairaland and to the Glory of God I can respond to any reasonable question posed so I will address the questions in my next post. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not Different From The Father!!! by MuttleyLaff: 2:33pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker:My dear Sir, with the utmost respect, you are just obfuscating a very simple, penny plain explanation, but its all good, its alright, as I have a few easy, direct, simple, innocent, harmless, straightforward questions to ask you Watch this Dtruthspeaker, for the sake of this discussion, imagine you had supernatural abilities, that makes it possible for you to project yourself, outwards from your body into a different place and time. You are still the same with the projection, lets call it "son" and call you the "father". 1/ Whose bidding, respectfully, do you think "son" will be doing? 2/ Is "son" not you, the "father"? 3/ Is "son" not distinct from you, the "father"? 4/ Is "son" and you the "father" not the same person known as Dtruthspeaker? 5/ Does "son" not see you the "father" Dtruthspeaker, do good things? 6/ Does "son" not have the same power as you, the "father" Dtruthspeaker? 7/ Did "son" not come from you, the "father" Dtruthspeaker? 8/ Is "son" not equal to the "father" Dtruthspeaker, yet not clinging to that status, so to fulfil all righteousness in that way, hmm? 9/ Would "son," being you the "father" Dtruthspeaker, have the ability and power to see into humans' heart, know their thoughts, tell what they're thinking, or what they desire, just like you the "father" Dtruthspeaker have that ability to do, hmm? In other words, similar from 1 Samuel 9:19 and 1 Samuel 10:19&26. 10/ Who really, in this scenario, is the "son"? Dtruthspeaker:I look forward to you addressing the questions directly and/or head-on |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not Different From The Father!!! by Dtruthspeaker: 4:44pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: Humbly, I once thought projection too but the flaw of the Projection Theory is that a Projection reapeats in sync what the Projector projects. Hence based on Projection my answers must be restricted to me, the father and projector, hence questions 1)= is My Bidding not his; 2) = I am the father and a projection is not a son but a replica as a mirror image or a shadow; 3) = in Projection, No for a projection is not a separate person as a son but a shadow or mirror reflection of the projector; 4) = No, for I am a person but my image is unreal and intangible; 5)= in Projection, No, for he does not see, for he is not a living or real thing; 6) in Projection, No, for Power can only be given to a living thing or real thing; 7) I am the one projecting so the projection comes from the projector:8 ) in Projection, the Projector is Real but the projection is not, therefore, they are not the same neither are they equal; 9) in Projection, the Projector is the one doing the work not the projection; so no reward for the projection 10) The Projector is the only real object. Which is why I am saying that, that reasoning does not apply in the case of Our Lord. And in fact I just saw John 17, Christ is Rendering Account, Giving Report and Making Petitions to Someone else. No projection can do that and one is thought a lunatic if a person speaks to Himself, which is not case here at all; 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not Different From The Father!!! by jamesid29(m): 4:57pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: It is well |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not Different From The Father!!! by MuttleyLaff: 5:21pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
jamesid29:[img]https://s4/images/MuttleyLaffJeffBridges.gif[/img] |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not Different From The Father!!! by Janosky: 5:28pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: Romans 8:3,32, John 3:16, God did not spare his own Son from death for us" John 14:28, Rev3:5,12 Jesus says there is no basis for injection of Trinitarian biase and twists into Phillipians 2:6. Bros, "Although he was in the form of God" NOT "Though he was God" Any version of Phillipians2:6 contradictory to Jesus statement @ John 14:28, Rev3:5,12, please, jakpa from that man made Fraud Bros, although you are in the form of your Father (human body (For Jesus, spirit body) , are you your father? Rev3:5,12, is Jesus Christ, his God and Father? Nobody can be greater than his God and our Father, John 20:17 ![]() ![]() |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not Different From The Father!!! by MuttleyLaff: 5:52pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker:Thank you for being a sport in answering all the 10 questions. You started very well, but you went on a downward trajectory from making dishonest replies from question #2 right up to question #10, considering the fact you know the projection was a "son" of you the "father" Dtruthspeaker, you dishonestly won't acknowledge the "son" projected, as being, real, living, have a body, had demonstrable power of healing, feeding, weeping, sleeping et cetera. You deceived yourself thinking you are deceiving me. You were being foolhardy, thinking you were being smartypants. You were being dumb, thinking you were being clever. Smh MuttleyLaff: Dtruthspeaker:"“Come now, let us reason together,” says the LORD ..." - Isaiah 1:18a It is not only in Isaiah 1:18a above, that God invites to reason with Him. Another case in point, of reasoning with God, is explained in Hebrews 11:19 about one of the many reasoning Abraham had with God and also had about God Reasoning plays a lot in fully getting to knowing God and correctly understanding everything about Him. As I've previously posted, the brain, isn't an ornament, given to just decorate the body with, but, we are blessed with this powerfully built processing functional gift for a purpose, for a reason, for such a time as this and especially for such a discussion as this. Dtruthspeaker:[img]https://s8/images/FacePalmSmh.gif[/img] Smh at above avalanche of confused dot com. Your theology is suspect. Do you really expect the "Father" to render account to the "Son" ni, hmm? In your narrow-minded, short changing, limited view of God, you say, it is a hard and impossible action for God to carry out projecting Himself out as a living, real, powerful, incarnated being of Himself. I concur without demur that with human beings, it is an impossible thing for any to do, but I unreservedly put it to you that, with God all things are possible (i.e. Matthew 19:26) You can take this from me, that, everything if it isn't bible based, if its not scripture, if it can't be bible fact check, I wouldn't bother share With me you are among friends, among the brethren, you are in safe company because I am not proselytising, I am not pitching a product, I am not teaching, I am not after anyone's money. I am not compounding or adding any more evil into all you already have. I dont have any hidden agenda or ulterior motive et cetera |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not Different From The Father!!! by Dtruthspeaker: 6:58pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: I do understand and appreciate the difference in view and the fact that it was given bonafide! |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not Different From The Father!!! by MuttleyLaff: 7:05pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker:[img]https://s0/images/MuttleyLaffsipsTea.gif[/img] Tell this to the marines, because the sailors won't believe you |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not Different From The Father!!! by jamesid29(m): 7:10pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff:Bro, what is wrong with you ![]() For someone who still has a lot to learn & unlearn and on a subject, you yourself haven't figured out, you still feel comfortable to speak in such a manner.... It is well with you. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not Different From The Father!!! by MuttleyLaff: 7:39pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
jamesid29:Something must be wrong with you and not me bro-ther ![]() ![]() ![]() Tell me what your birthday is, so I can give you a dictionary as a birthday gift. Look at him publicly displaying his failure to grasp the meaning of a simple harmless innocent and matter of fact word(s). Smh jamesid29: ![]() Will you, sharp sharpishly get off my mention, doing poke nosing, not minding his business, busybody NL self appointed police upandan the thread ![]() ![]() ![]() You my dear friend, are not my match, not my class, not in our number, and this is saying it without being self conceited, like you are parading yourself upandan the thread, attention seeking for self person KMT You can stuff your insincere, hollow, nonsense and ingredients "It is well with you" |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not Different From The Father!!! by jamesid29(m): 9:31pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff:Sigh.... It is well. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not Different From The Father!!! by Nobody: 9:49pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
Simple put Jehovah's Witnesses Organization ~ Jesus is Archangel Michael in the midst of members PEACE reigns globally! But Trinitarians ~ Jesus is God Almighty and there is no PEACE amongst them, it's Yam pepper scatter scatter ~ isu ata yán an yàn an ![]() |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not Different From The Father!!! by MuttleyLaff: 11:58pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
jamesid29:[img]https://media./images/f879ac0258098623c7d587d6cd057b4f/tenor.gif[/img] |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not Different From The Father!!! by Janosky: 1:32am On Aug 30, 2020 |
Maximus69: "Spirit filled" Triune pagan DELUSION confused devotees
|
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not Different From The Father!!! by MuttleyLaff: 6:31am On Aug 30, 2020 |
Maximus69:"For when they are saying, "Peace and safety," then sudden destruction will come on them, like birth pains on a pregnant woman; and they will in no way escape" - 1 Thessalonians 5:3 In the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses Organization globally reigns false sense of peace and security |
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not Different From The Father!!! by eplanning: 8:18am On Aug 30, 2020 |
jamesid29: So much blindness in Christianity. Truth is YAHUAH is not an intangible concept or ideology as we were brainwashed to think as Christians. He is a being with a face, head, hands and feet. Moses saw his backside. Daniel saw a vision of the Ancient of Days and described someone with negro features. Daniel 7:9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire. Trinity is a LIE. The father and the son are neither the same nor equal. The ANCIENT OF DAYS gave MESSIAH the KINGDOM, the DOMINION and the GLORY. Daniel 7:13-14 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed. See pillar of cloud and pillar of fire that followed the children of Israel. This is the cloud our BLACK MESSIAH ascended into (Acts 1:9). Our enemies should prepare for the fire that's coming, it will utterly destroy BABYLON. 1 Share
|
Re: Jesus Christ Is Not Different From The Father!!! by bingbagbo(m): 7:26am On Aug 31, 2020 |
John 14:8-9 [8]Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.” [9]Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? |
How Joshua Selman Made Me Lose My Girl / I Feel Dragged Between God And The Devil / Mention One Difference Between Orthodox And Pentecostal Churches
(Go Up)
Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 90 |