Good morning fellow NL, i recently came across a story, about how two tribes ( Yoruba and Igbo), in the southern parts of the Nigeria treated the Whites when they, came to the shores of the present Nigeria. The whites as we all know, came to explore our land and take all the important minerals such as, gold, silver, coal and our brothers as slaves, but some of our greedy forefather sold, themselves before the British took over the slave trade. The Yoruba's invited the British as guest, into there kingdom, wanting to share from The knowledge of the white man, who had photography, guns , ships, wore suit etc. But it didn't take long for the white to cease control, of the kingdom.
The Igbo's on the other hand, didn't want anything to do with the white man, fought a war with the white man for complete 31years with lots of casualty on the Igbo's side, but with all the fighting and casualty on there sides, they were still conquered and invaded.
I will like to put it up for an arguments on this forum, who made the most reasonable decision, was it the Yoruba's who invited the British in to there land, to share there Knowledge with them,(this Same knowledge was used to clamour for there Independence) , Or The Igbo who stood their ground, for complete 31 years and resisted the whites not minding the casualty but was later defeated.

Pictures:
Queen Elizabeth Visits King Afunbiowo of Akure in the 1950s
The Igbo Traditional warriors
Winston Churchill hosts Ooni Aderemi of Ile-Ife

marsman:
Good morning fellow NL, i recently came across a story, about how two tribes ( Yoruba and Igbo), in the southern parts of the Nigeria treated the Whites when they, came to the shores of the present Nigeria. The whites as we all know, came to explore our land and take all the important minerals such as, gold, silver, coal and our brothers as slaves, but some of our greedy forefather sold, themselves before the British took over the slave trade. The Yoruba's invited the British as guest, into there kingdom, wanting to share from The knowledge of the white man, who had photography, guns , ships, wore suit etc. But it didn't take long for the white to cease control, of the kingdom.
The Igbo's on the other hand, didn't want anything to do with the white man, fought a war with the white man for complete 31years with lots of causality on the Igbo's side, but with all the fighting and causality on there sides, they were still conquered and invaded.
I will like to put it up for an arguments on this forum, who made the most reasonable decision, was it the Yoruba's who invited the British in to there land, to share there Knowledge with them,(this Same knowledge was used to clamour for there Independence) , Or The Igbo who stood their ground, for complete 31 years and resisted the whites not minding the casualty but was later defeated.

Pictures:
Queen Elizabeth Visits King Afunbiowo of Akure in the 1950s
The Igbo Traditional warriors
Winston Churchill hosts Ooni Aderemi of Ile-Ife

firstly igbos traded with the whites for years , we welcomed them with our arms open

unlike the yorubas that begged them to come rule them before they kill themselves finish

Igbo man even till now can never give up his right to rule himself no matter the cost ...

u people need to understand how we igbos value life n freedom ....death was never a form of punishment neither was prison ....if u commit and offence ...u are either fined or excommunicated ....and send to the land of osu ...where people who commit offence that are unforgivable stay ...but you still had your freedom


I as an igbo man would die 1 million times than to be a slave once

British never defeated the igbos really ...we accepting Christianity was what softened the war and we accepted them

Here's what Harold Smith, one of the colonial officers the British Government sent to rig Nigeria’s pre-independence elections in favour of the North, had to say about Yorubas and Awolowo resistance to British rule, FROM THE HORSE'S OWN MOUTH:

"But the British were not treated as gods by the Yoruba. In my experience, the Yoruba regarded themselves as superior to the British and one only had to read a book written by Awolowo, the Western leader, to know why. The Yoruba were often highly intelligent and they taunted the British with sending inferior people to Nigeria. The Igbo would be humble and avert his eyes in the presence of a European. The Yoruba child would look at an important European and shout, ‘Hello, white man,’ as if he were a freak.”

Awolowo in the West had taunted the British by claiming that his government had accomplished more in the space of two or three years for his people than the British had since they arrived in West Africa.”

“The thrust of the British Government’s policy was against the Action Group led by Chief Awolowo, which ruled in the Western Region. Not only was the British Government working hand in glove with the North, which was a puppet state favoured and controlled by the British administration, but it was colluding through Okotie-Eboh with Dr. Azikiwe – Zik – the leader of the largely Igbo NCNC, which ruled in the East. We tricked Azikiwe into accepting to be president having known that Balewa will be the main man with power. Awolowo has to go to jail to cripple his genius plans for a greater Nigeria.

An excerpt from the book Black Critics and Kings: The Hermeneutics of Power in Yoruba Society
By Andrew Apter:

"As far as it is possible for one race to be characteristically like another from which it differs in every physical aspect, the Yorubas it has been noted are not unlike the English in many of the traits and characteristics. it would appear that what the one is among the whites, the other is among the blacks. love of independence,a feeling of superiority over all others,a keen commercial spirit and of indefatigable enterprise,that quality of never being able to admit or consent to defeat are some of the qualities peculiar to them, and no matter under what circumstances they are placed,the Yorubas will display them(ibid.,xxii)

The official christian or white reading is still clear Yorubas are to other Africans what the english are among Europeans at the top of the hierarchy of nations by virtue of shared traits and characteristics. The inferiority of blacks to white, however is implicitly assumed. Oris it? On the point, a deeper reading asserts something else. Yorubas, like the English,they feel superior to all others, enterprising and above all will never consent to defeat no matter under what circumstances they are placed. When these circumstances include British overule,The yorubas will protect their independence feel superior and never accept defeat


ABEOKUTA WOMEN REVOLT
Abeokuta Women's Revolt led by the Abeokuta Women’s Union (AWU), took place in the 1940s. It was a resistance movement against the imposition of unfair taxation by the Nigerian colonial government


ADUBI WAR
The Adubi War, known locally as Ogun Adubi, or Egba Uprising was a conflict that occurred in June-August 1918 in Colonial Nigeria as a result of taxation introduced by the colonial government. The war consisted of thirty thousand Egba fighters destroying much of the railway and telegraphs lines south of Abeokuta along with the killing of a European trading agent and a high-ranking Egba chief. The incident was the culmination of the abrogation of Abeokuta's independence in 1918, and the introduction of direct taxation and forced labor in the region. British soldiers who fought in the war received the Africa General Service Medal.

TRIUMVIRATO SUGAR MILL REVOLT
Carlota Lukumí is a Yoruba woman who led a rebellion alongside a woman named fermina. Femina was locked up after her plans for the rebellion were discovered. Using talking drums to secretly communicate, Carlota and her fellow warriors freed Fermina and dozens of others. They both led an organized well orchestrated armed attacks at triumvarato sugar plantation in Cuba against five plantation operations. There is a monument in Cuba at the Triumvirato Sugar Mill in her memory.

THE MALE REVOLT
The male revolt is the most significant slave rebellion in Brazil. On a Sunday during Ramadan in January 1835, in the city of Salvador da Bahia, a small group of black slaves and freedmen, inspired by Muslim teachers, rose up against the government. Muslims were called malê in Bahia at this time, from Yoruba imale that designated a Yoruba Muslim.Many consider this rebellion to be the turning point of slavery in Brazil.

Yoruba will surrender even before you declare war.

Igbos never say die and will fight till the end against overwhelming odds.

Igbochief001:

firstly igbos traded with the whites for years , we welcomed them with our arms open

unlike the yorubas that begged them to come rule them before they kill themselves finish

Igbo man even till now can never give up his right to rule himself no matter the cost ...

u people need to understand how we igbos value life n freedom ....death was never a form of punishment neither was prison ....if u commit and offence ...u are either fined or excommunicated ....and send to the land of osu ...where people who commit offence that are unforgivable stay ...but you still had your freedom


I as an igbo man would die 1 million times than to be a slave once

British never defeated the igbos really ...we accepting Christianity was what softened the war and we accepted them

This is your view i guess, would like hear more

No human should forcefully serve another. Igbo's did well in fighting the British.

We've been very objective as a people in our quest for liberty. Quite unfortunately, we have been unsuccessful; falling to British forces which ultimately made us part of Nigeria, and falling again to the Nigerian forces during the civil war thereby keeping us in this contraption.

I sincerely hope and pray we are successful in our next campaign for liberty which is certain to commence fully either sooner or later.

Where can one get this kind of Churchill's cigar pls.. I like to puff on that stuff from time to time

op get your fact right the Yorubas, ijebu precisely fought the British..

the Hausas/fulani on the other hand were the smartest during colonial era, they didn't rebel against the British... I think that's why the British gave them so much power...

Igbochief001:

firstly igbos traded with the whites for years , we welcomed them with our arms open

unlike the yorubas that begged them to come rule them before they kill themselves finish

Igbo man even till now can never give up his right to rule himself no matter the cost ...

u people need to understand how we igbos value life n freedom ....death was never a form of punishment neither was prison ....if u commit and offence ...u are either fined or excommunicated ....and send to the land of osu ...where people who commit offence that are unforgivable stay ...but you still had your freedom


I as an igbo man would die 1 million times than to be a slave once

British never defeated the igbos really ...we accepting Christianity was what softened the war and we accepted them

Sir Robert Lister Bower convinced the 2 warring sides to surrender as they had both been severely weakened during the war.[5] Unable to prevent the occupation of the British, Southern Nigeria was subsequently declared a protectorate of the British Empire. The casualties of the war are unknown, but it is said that there was no killing of children or women, and about 500,000 soldiers fought in the war in total.
The British were just lucky, and came at the right time for them.
It was until when palm oil was detective in the east, that the slave trade there ended

Wikipedia
The Niger Delta and Calabar, which once had been known for the export of slaves, became notable for the export of palm oil. The Delta streams were called "oil rivers".
Slave occurred in all the parts of Nigeria, the east not exempted.

marsman:
Good morning fellow NL, i recently came across a story, about how two tribes ( Yoruba and Igbo), in the southern parts of the Nigeria treated the Whites when they, came to the shores of the present Nigeria. The whites as we all know, came to explore our land and take all the important minerals such as, gold, silver, coal and our brothers as slaves, but some of our greedy forefather sold, themselves before the British took over the slave trade. The Yoruba's invited the British as guest, into there kingdom, wanting to share from The knowledge of the white man, who had photography, guns , ships, wore suit etc. But it didn't take long for the white to cease control, of the kingdom.
The Igbo's on the other hand, didn't want anything to do with the white man, fought a war with the white man for complete 31years with lots of causality on the Igbo's side, but with all the fighting and causality on there sides, they were still conquered and invaded.
I will like to put it up for an arguments on this forum, who made the most reasonable decision, was it the Yoruba's who invited the British in to there land, to share there Knowledge with them,(this Same knowledge was used to clamour for there Independence) , Or The Igbo who stood their ground, for complete 31 years and resisted the whites not minding the casualty but was later defeated.

Pictures:
Queen Elizabeth Visits King Afunbiowo of Akure in the 1950s
The Igbo Traditional warriors
Winston Churchill hosts Ooni Aderemi of Ile-Ife

Yorubas only invited the white to rule coz they can't rule themselves.


Give them Oduduwa republic and in less than six months everywhere will turn to desert because they will kill themselves finish.

IS A CURSE...

YORUBA PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS MEASURE DICK WITH IGBOS...THEY CANT DO WITHOUT THIS CURSE...
GOD CREATED IGBOS THEIR SUPERIORS AND PEO[b]PLE THEY WILL FOREVER LEARN FROM..

REASON FOR IGBO HATRED AND ENVY ...

FOREVER YORUBA WILL REMAIN IN COMPETITION WITH THE IGBO NATION... WHILE THE IGBO NATION REMAINS IN COMPETITION WITH ITSELF... WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE OF THE FAVT IF YORUBA EXIT OR NOT

IT IS WHAT IS IT...
[/b]

MelesZenawi:



Yorubas only invited the white to rule coz they can't rule themselves.


Give them Oduduwa republic and in less than six months everywhere will turn to desert because they will kill themselves finish.

This is the reason we want one nigeria by force.





We yorubas hate ourselves.

Forget the pretence.

I think this thread has being monopolize by a particular tribe, Sammy07 and the rest should visit, i would like to hear both sides.

Usual blab

marsman:
Good morning fellow NL, i recently came across a story, about how two tribes ( Yoruba and Igbo), in the southern parts of the Nigeria treated the Whites when they, came to the shores of the present Nigeria. The whites as we all know, came to explore our land and take all the important minerals such as, gold, silver, coal and our brothers as slaves, but some of our greedy forefather sold, themselves before the British took over the slave trade. The Yoruba's invited the British as guest, into there kingdom, wanting to share from The knowledge of the white man, who had photography, guns , ships, wore suit etc. But it didn't take long for the white to cease control, of the kingdom.
The Igbo's on the other hand, didn't want anything to do with the white man, fought a war with the white man for complete 31years with lots of causality on the Igbo's side, but with all the fighting and causality on there sides, they were still conquered and invaded.
I will like to put it up for an arguments on this forum, who made the most reasonable decision, was it the Yoruba's who invited the British in to there land, to share there Knowledge with them,(this Same knowledge was used to clamour for there Independence) , Or The Igbo who stood their ground, for complete 31 years and resisted the whites not minding the casualty but was later defeated.

Pictures:
Queen Elizabeth Visits King Afunbiowo of Akure in the 1950s
The Igbo Traditional warriors
Winston Churchill hosts Ooni Aderemi of Ile-Ife

No o there was war between the British and the yorubas but it didn't last long. Every Nigerian tribe tried to fight the British.

marsman:
I think this thread has being monopolize by a particular tribe, Sammy07 and the rest should visit, i would like to hear both sides.

We would surely revisit I'm only being busy for a while.

Cc: Tao12, tao11, metaphysical, totit, thatfairguy, legendhero.

AlabiJ:
Here's what Harold Smith, one of the colonial officers the British Government sent to rig Nigeria’s pre-independence elections in favour of the North, had to say about Yorubas and Awolowo resistance to British rule, FROM THE HORSE'S OWN MOUTH:



An excerpt from the book Black Critics and Kings: The Hermeneutics of Power in Yoruba Society
By Andrew Apter:



The official christian or white reading is still clear Yorubas are to other Africans what the english are among Europeans at the top of the hierarchy of nations by virtue of shared traits and characteristics. The inferiority of blacks to white, however is implicitly assumed. Oris it? On the point, a deeper reading asserts something else. Yorubas, like the English,they feel superior to all others, enterprising and above all will never consent to defeat no matter under what circumstances they are placed. When these circumstances include British overule,The yorubas will protect their independence feel superior and never accept defeat


ABEOKUTA WOMEN REVOLT
Abeokuta Women's Revolt led by the Abeokuta Women’s Union (AWU), took place in the 1940s. It was a resistance movement against the imposition of unfair taxation by the Nigerian colonial government


ADUBI WAR
The Adubi War, known locally as Ogun Adubi, or Egba Uprising was a conflict that occurred in June-August 1918 in Colonial Nigeria as a result of taxation introduced by the colonial government. The war consisted of thirty thousand Egba fighters destroying much of the railway and telegraphs lines south of Abeokuta along with the killing of a European trading agent and a high-ranking Egba chief. The incident was the culmination of the abrogation of Abeokuta's independence in 1918, and the introduction of direct taxation and forced labor in the region. British soldiers who fought in the war received the Africa General Service Medal.

TRIUMVIRATO SUGAR MILL REVOLT
Carlota Lukumí is a Yoruba woman who led a rebellion alongside a woman named fermina. Femina was locked up after her plans for the rebellion were discovered. Using talking drums to secretly communicate, Carlota and her fellow warriors freed Fermina and dozens of others. They both led an organized well orchestrated armed attacks at triumvarato sugar plantation in Cuba against five plantation operations. There is a monument in Cuba at the Triumvirato Sugar Mill in her memory.

THE MALE REVOLT
The male revolt is the most significant slave rebellion in Brazil. On a Sunday during Ramadan in January 1835, in the city of Salvador da Bahia, a small group of black slaves and freedmen, inspired by Muslim teachers, rose up against the government. Muslims were called malê in Bahia at this time, from Yoruba imale that designated a Yoruba Muslim.Many consider this rebellion to be the turning point of slavery in Brazil.

Yet Ojukwu was the little Igbo boy that slapped the sh!t off a white man, while Yoruba boys were greeting them and Yoruba kings didn't even care to slap the white man

LukasPodolski:
op get your fact right the Yorubas, ijebu precisely fought the British..

the Hausas/fulani on the other hand were the smartest during colonial era, they didn't rebel against the British... I think that's why the British gave them so much power...

Op don't know his history, what he put up there was just an opinion piece.


kiss the truth!

MelesZenawi:



Yorubas only invited the white to rule coz they can't rule themselves.


Give them Oduduwa republic and in less than six months everywhere will turn to desert because they will kill themselves finish.

Funny. Go read up on the achievements of the western regional government.

kiss the truth!

OfoIgbo:


Yet Ojukwu was the little Igbo boy that slapped the sh!t off a white man, while Yoruba boys were greeting them and Yoruba kings didn't even care to slap the white man

Yorubas had been in commercial engagements with the Portuguese long before the arrival of the British. The British were fascinated by the commercial refinement and resourcesfulness of the Yoruba. Remember that the whites met the ibos in the bush.

kiss the truth!

AlfaSeltzer:
Yoruba will surrender even before you declare war.

Igbos never say die and will fight till the end against overwhelming odds.

Aba women riot in 1929 ended in a blood bath. Hundreds of ibo women were detained as sex slaves. In contrast, Egba women riot in 1939, ended in tax abolishment. Morale of the story: Brain not Brawn.

kiss the truth!

LukasPodolski:
op get your fact right the Yorubas, ijebu precisely fought the British..

the Hausas/fulani on the other hand were the smartest during colonial era, they didn't rebel against the British... I think that's why the British gave them so much power...

Talking about facts.
The Fulani army did rebel.
They fought several wars and were roundly defeated.

Oh, it wasn't only the Ijebus who fought the British.
I leave the others as an assignment for you.

BTW, highlighting the differences between Ijebus and Yorubas is meaningless
as somewhat independent subgroups tend to identify with their town names during the colonial times.

Yorubas have ignored Yanminri for some days now. Ibos are already finding their isolation too hard to bear. You sha can't do without Yoruba. Now you come looking for our attention like a hungry LovePeddler starved of dick. Na wah for una.

This sitting arrangement said it all, kings from poverty capital of the south was put far away from the prince , so that his phone, shoes or watch doesn't get missing by mistake

TimeManager:

Aba women riot in 1929 ended in a blood bath. Hundreds of ibo women were detained as sex slaves. In contrast, Egba women riot in 1939, ended in tax abolishment. Morale of the story: Brain not Brawn.

kiss the truth!

Lol,
You guys are experts in rewriting history...

Xisnin:

Talking about facts.
The Fulani army did rebel.
They fought several wars and were roundly defeated.

We need references and historical facts. Thanks.

kiss the truth!

Rugaria:


Lol,
You guys are experts in rewriting history...

Disprove with facts the end results of Aba women riot and Egba women riot respectively.

kiss the truth!

TimeManager:

Disprove with facts the end results of Aba women riot and Egba women riot respectively.

kiss the truth!

I won't indulge you by putting your egba women play in the same sentence with a historically defining movement like the Aba women's riot.... Go back to your history books and get a grip..

TimeManager:

Aba women riot in 1929 ended in a blood bath. Hundreds of ibo women were detained as sex slaves. In contrast, Egba women riot in 1939, ended in tax abolishment. Morale of the story: Brain not Brawn.

kiss the truth!

Which brain? Taa!

TimeManager:

Yorubas had been in commercial engagements with the Portuguese long before the arrival of the British. The British were fascinated by the commercial refinement and resourcesfulness of the Yoruba. Remember that the whites met the ibos in the bush.

kiss the truth!

And today the Igbos are beating you silly educationally according to WAEC. And the Igbos are whoopping whites, Chinese and every other race on earth educationally innthe US, according to research.

Igbos, along with Chinese, Jews, Japanese and Germans are reputed to be the most fantastic race of humans. Yorubas are nowhere near this list. Just mediocre

Rugaria:


I won't indulge you by putting your egba women play in the same sentence with a historically defining movement like the Aba women's riot.... Go back to your history books and get a grip..

Tax imposition was the cause of both regional riots. Aba women riot was only pronounced because of the large scale of blood bath that marred it. Egba women riot was significantly accomplished with no resultant bloodbath. pls, disprove with facts.

kiss the truth!

IamWonderful:
This sitting arrangement said it all, kings from poverty capital of the south was put far away from the prince , so that his phone, shoes or watch doesn't get missing by mistake

Prince Charles caught Coronavirus at some point, after these pictures. Serves him right for sitting close to a Coronavirus-ravaged Ooni