And by the end of the day Blabbermouth can now pitch his tent anywhere he pleases in PEACE!

Now i've made him see the distinction between the one and only TRUE God and all the demons people are worshiping claiming they're also worshipers of God.

I told that they're all worshiping what they don't know, we worship who we know salvation is with only Jehovah's Witnesses! John 4:22

So there's no need engaging you in any further discussion because it's evident that you're just running away from the truth. You set the stage and rules, none of them came with any reasonable logic to prove they have the real God, and at last you're the one shamelessly defending them when they are all silent!

Thanks for your time and may God be with you, but know that JEHOVAH our own God is the one and only TRUE God, and there is nowhere anyone can worship our God except only with Jehovah's Witnesses Organization!

Farewell my friend!

Maximus69:

....

Please don't go yet.
I said something about the test you tendered, give a remark on that first.

Blabbermouth:

Maximus69, say something.

So you're expecting me to start debating with you who supposed to be the referee shey?

Sorry you've been exposed my guy, you should have called them to come and face me at least refute my logic by presenting their own to counter mine, not when you yourself is the one defending them!

Maximus69:

So you're expecting me to start debating with you who supposed to be the referee shey?

Debate? I don't have a position here, my own is to assess the models different believers give.

Sorry you've been exposed my guy, you should have called them to come and face me at least refute my logic by presenting their own to counter mine, not when you yourself is the one defending them!

How many times I wan call them? I don call taya.

If only MuttleyLaff were here, this night might have been one of the biggest nights to remember (... I hope). Unfortunately, My Nigga is on a forced sabbatical.

All of them are viewing the thread, yet no one is saying anything.
Nawa o.
Make I go sleep abeg.

Guys, I wan go sleep...

E pain me sha.... Una chop my eyes.

Blabbermouth:

Debate? I don't have a position here, my own is to assess the models different believers give.
How many times I wan call them? I don call taya.

Well that's to tell you they're all worshipers of dead gods!

You yourself cited the instance of Elijah and the 450 prophets of Baal, at least those false prophets were present that faithful day, though they all lost their lives in the hands of angry Israelites who felt they've been robbed all along. They followed all the rules to show their loyalty to their God.

But this case is different, none of all those you invited came, they all went into hiding and by the end of the day you're now questioning me even when all other contenders failed to show up.
Do you know why they can't show their faces?
Well it's due to the promises of our own God the God of Jehovah's Witnesses! He said
No weapon (sweet talks from demonized persons) formed against you will have any success, you will condemn any tongue that rise against you in judgment, this is the heritage of servants of JEHOVAH and their RIGHTEOSNESS is from me says JEHOVAH" Isaiah 54:17

So there's no need bothering yourself my guy, GOD won't come down to tell you face to face that Jehovah's Witnesses are his only worshipers this is your opportunity to know the truth and you've known it today! John 8:32

Where are all your Pentecostal friends?
Where are all those Trinitarians?
Where are all those who often claim they belong to no church? Psalms 115:2-8

You may choose ATHEISM but know that if you want to worship the one and only TRUE God, you must join Jehovah's Witnesses!

kingxsamz:
All of them are viewing the thread, yet no one is saying anything.
Nawa o.
Make I go sleep abeg.

Sleep well my friend, sleep well!

It's like IMAliyu is coming up with something fantabulous. My hopes are high sir, I'm expecting you.

Blabbermouth:

No. I mentioned you to proffer a test that Proves your God is the real God while others are fake.

You’re still on the religious lane. Only those who view God from the lenses of religion would believe the God of their religion to be real and that of others to be fake so... Still may not be of help in that regard.

Which brings me to my initial post “God” the origin of life, the sum of all intelligence, energy and consciousness has no religion (religion in itself is a man made construct invented by followers of certain enlightened souls).

Maximus69:


Sleep well my friend, sleep well!

OkCornel:

You’re still on the religious lane. Only those who view God from the lenses of religion would believe the God of their religion to be real and that of others to be fake so... Still may not be of help in that regard.

Shock me... Are you saying Vishnu, Krishna, Allah and the God of Abraham are one and the same?

Maximus69:


Well that's to tell you they're all worshipers of dead gods!

You yourself cited the instance of Elijah and the 450 prophets of Baal, at least those false prophets were present that faithful day, though they all lost their lives in the hands of angry Israelites who felt they've been robbed all along.

But this case is different, none of all those you invited came, they all went into hiding and by the end of the day you're now questioning me even when all other contenders failed to show up.

So there's no need bothering yourself my guy, GOD won't come down to tell you face to face that Jehovah's Witnesses are his only worshipers this is your opportunity to know the truth and you've known it today!

Where are all your Pentecostal friends?
Where are all those Trinitarians?
Where are all those who often claim they belong to no church?

You may choose ATHEISM but know that if you want to worship the one and only TRUE God, you must join Jehovah's Witnesses!

Can't you see what the Blabbermouth guy and the other atheists are doing?
He and his cohorts aren't looking for any way you can reason with them—they're just like wolves ready to devour you for any statement you make.

If something this critical is to be discussed, then a fair ground—all resources should be used therein to show the reality of a God in the midst of its worshipers.
And not these immature challenges where the OP can set rules as he likes—yet breaks them in the process.

DappaD:


Can't you see what the Blabbermouth guy and the other atheists are doing?
He and his cohorts aren't looking for any way you can reason with them—they're just like wolves ready to devour you for any statement you make.

If something this critical is to be discussed, then a fair ground—all resources should be used therein to show the reality of a God in the midst of its worshipers.
And not these immature challenges where the OP can set rules as he likes—yet breaks them in the process.

Shut it! I reasoned with Maximus69. The only issue is - The other guys should be the ones reasoning while I watch.

DappaD:


Can't you see what the Blabbermouth guy and the other atheists are doing?
He and his cohorts aren't looking for any way you can reason with them—they're just like wolves ready to devour you for any statement you make.

If something this critical is to be discussed, then a fair ground—all resources should be used therein to show the reality of a God in the midst of its worshipers.
And not these immature challenges where the OP can set rules as he likes—yet breaks them in the process.

He should have made himself clear that he is now an atheist nah?

All his tactics of hide and seek is child's play for Maximus. I've dealt with their grandfathers in ATHEISM and they always fear me after sitting to discuss with me.
One thing i don't do is once i notice that someone just like chatting with me without purpose i'll stop visiting the person. I have few of them in my area. There is one who often say "had it been i met you earlier i would have considered becoming a JW but i've vowed never to return to Religion"

Blabbermouth:

Shut it! I reasoned with Maximus69. The only issue is - The other guys should be the ones reasoning while I watch.

So you finally quote me after so long. Your atheist buddies give you stomach yet?

Mr Blabbermouth, like Maximus69 said—that which you don't see reason in, all these arguments about a real “God” are fruitless if there are no real implementations that can enable us tackle the burning issues in the world today which yields useful benefits/results.

Blabbermouth:

Shock me... Are you saying Vishnu, Krishna, Allah and the God of Abraham are one and the same?

Probably, but can’t conclude with certainty as I’m not sufficiently knowledgable on the first three as the last.

Anyways what I know is, the true God is responsible for existence as we know it. Yes, your life, mine, theists, agnostics, atheists, animals, earth, the universe, consciousness etc. (Unless you want to prove beyond a reasonable doubt we are just a cosmic accident ) God is not bound to man’s ridiculous attempt to describe in line with religious constructs.

Religion is a narrow minded and perhaps erroneous way of experiencing who God is.

Maximus69:


He should have made himself clear that he is now an atheist nah?

All his tactics of hide and seek is child's play for Maximus. I've dealt with their grandfathers in ATHEISM and they always fear me after sitting to discuss with me.
One thing i don't do is once i notice that someone just like chatting with me without purpose i'll stop visiting the person. I have few of them in my area. There is one who often say "had it been i met you earlier i would have considered becoming a JW but i've vowed never to return to Religion"

Seriously though, I don't support this “sitting on the fence” scheme when it comes to important issues such as these.
Everyone should be able to state their stand and allow the other person express himself fully without these bias limits in place.
I shouldn't use the Bible to substantiate my claims but Blabbermouth can comfortably cherrypick the account of Elijah and use it as a defense of some sort. That's not done anywhere.

I leave for two hours to attend to some real life duties and then I come back to see Blabbermouth and his cohorts rejoicing in their folly as it seems.
Really pathetic.

Blabbermouth:
I think I should usher in the Muslims.
@IMAliyu, how about you give a try

Well I'd be better defined as a cultural Muslim these days I don't make claims, so wouldn't the regulars like Empir.ee be more fitting?

I think creating a methodology, or an experiment to test for the existence of God is required first.

This is an interesting topic.
So let's start with what are the properties imbued on to God? let's take the Islamic God or the Abrahamic God in general.

Most of the properties of this God can not be tested nor observed like the creation of the universe, man and others of this kind, except for that the Abrahamic faiths say that this God does intervene in the life of man and the workings of the universe by things like the answering of prayer, to miracles with numerous accounts in the Torah, Bible and Quran in the past. So this means if he has done it before it is more than possible he can do it again.

So my experiment would be this if it is in anyway possible to achieve. Gather a large number of devout believers and worshippers of the specified religion or from all the religions maybe a hundred to a couple of thousand men, women and children from selected from different places. Have them pray for a specific decided upon thing to happen at a specific time like for example a dead person to rise, or something as simple as for a specific car or an object to defy gravity to float 10 meters above the ground for 10 seconds. These are things his done before according to the books resurrections and flying carpets.

A prayer of a 100 or more people including women and children all in unison, I think no deity that prides them selves in answering prayers and their abilities would surely ignore such a thing.

This is my idea, not a fleshed out one, but here it is.

Maximus69:


He should have made himself clear that he is now an atheist nah?

That was me multitasking and doing what others were supposed to do.

All his tactics of hide and seek is child's play for Maximus. I've dealt with their grandfathers in ATHEISM and they always fear me after sitting to discuss with me.

Show me where I did hide-and-seek.

One thing i don't do is once i notice that someone just like chatting with me without purpose i'll stop visiting the person. I have few of them in my area. There is one who often say "had it been i met you earlier i would have considered becoming a JW but i've vowed never to return to Religion"

OK.

Blabbermouth:

Shock me... Are you saying Vishnu, Krishna, Allah and the God of Abraham are one and the same?

Do you see the folly of your quest when you realise that Names or identification of God are Always in an unknown Tongue and a foreign language?

Even English is not our local language until it was foisted upon us, so the Name God which is English language, Dieu in French, Nyasaye in Kenyan language is already subject to diversity of language and tongue eg Chineke, Abasi, Osenobua, Osanobua, Eledumare/Oluwa.

However, it is easy to spot a fake god, it is one who encourages and promotes the doing of that which is reasonably bad, wicked or evil!

IMAliyu:

Well I'd be better defined as a cultural Muslim these days I don't make claims, so wouldn't the regulars like Empir.ee be more fitting?

I think creating a methodology, or an experiment to test for the existence of God is required first.

This is an interesting topic.
So let's start with what are the properties imbued on to God? let's take the Islamic God or the Abrahamic God in general.

Most of the properties of this God can not be tested nor observed like the creation of the universe, man and others of this kind, except for that the Abrahamic faiths say that this God does intervene in the life of man and the workings of the universe by things like the answering of prayer, to miracles with numerous accounts in the Torah, Bible and Quran in the past. So this means if he has done it before it is more than possible he can do it again.

So my experiment would be this if it is in anyway possible to achieve. Gather a large number of devout believers and worshippers of the specified religion or from all the religions maybe a hundred to a couple of thousand men, women and children from selected from different places. Have them pray for a specific decided upon thing to happen at a specific time like for example a dead person to rise, or something as simple as for a specific car or an object to defy gravity to float 10 meters above the ground for 10 seconds. These are things his done before according to the books resurrections and flying carpets.

A prayer of a 100 or more people including women and children all in unison, I think no deity that prides them selves in answering prayers and their abilities would surely ignore such a thing.

This is my idea, not a fleshed out one, but here it is.

I don't know if your god is your servant but I know that creations do the will of their god, not gods doing the wills of their creations.

Dtruthspeaker:


I don't know if your god is your servant but I know that creations do the will of their god, not gods doing the wills of their creations.

A good master would answer the humble request of his devoted servants wouldn't he? especially if it comes with no inconvenience and would undoubtedly help him.
Because with my proposed experiment, it would undoubtedly prove the power and existence of God to doubters would it not?

IMAliyu:

A good master would answer the humble request of his devoted servants wouldn't he? especially if it comes with no inconvenience and would undoubtedly help him.
Because with my proposed experiment, it would undoubtedly prove the power and existence of God to doubters would it not?

A good master is good because he has dealt goodly with his servant.

Servants do not issue orders to their Master, they obey their Masters Commands!

IMAliyu:

A good master would answer the humble request of his devoted servants wouldn't he? especially if it comes with no inconvenience and would undoubtedly help him.
Because with my proposed experiment, it would undoubtedly prove the power and existence of God to doubters would it not?

In essence, the person who set up this thread is looking for a supernatural manifestation from the God who created the Universe ba?
Well at least I know what this thread is really about now.

DappaD:


In essence, the person who set up this thread is looking for a supernatural manifestation from the God who created the Universe ba?
Well at least I know what this thread is really about now.

yep! As if he can tell his boss to go out in the rain just because he said so.

The thread was not for a good purpose but to do an evil thing!

Dtruthspeaker:


A good master is good because he has dealt goodly with his servant.

Servants do not issue orders to their Master, they obey their Masters Commands!

How do you define 'dealt goodly'?

I think you mean a tyrant.
A tyrant is the only one that would seek his servants to only obey and nothing else.

If I'm to use analogies. You can ask your father questions, you can make requests and if the request is not unreasonable, he can grant it. Same goes for a good king.

IMAliyu:

How do you define 'dealt goodly'?

Knowing that we all know what is good therefore "dealt goodly" clearly means that which is good for and to a servant which reasonable men would say that it is a good thing and they themselves would like that same good thing to be done to them or want that same good thing to be given to them.

IMAliyu:

I think you mean a tyrant.
A tyrant is the only one that would seek his servants to only obey and nothing else.

No, I do not mean a tyrant. Anyone can be a tyrant whether a Ruler, a fellow man of equal standing or even a child.

But a Ruler does not need to be a tyrant unless he is a wicked Ruler. For He Commands, servants obey and His Will or Command is Done, therefore, no need for tyranny.

It is always the weak who are tyrants and have need of it, not the Strong!

IMAliyu:

If I'm to use analogies. You can ask your father questions, you can make requests and if the request is not unreasonable, he can grant it. Same goes for a good king.

And there is your error!

Because my Father is Good I can ask reasonable questions, Obtain Understanding so that I can even ask Reasonable Requests. He will Not Withold Any Good Thing From Me!

I do not know if your father accepts unreasonable questions and unreasonable requests, I stand to be corrected but I know that no wise father accepts unreasonable questions and unreasonable requests!

Dtruthspeaker:


Knowing that we all know what is good therefore "dealt goodly" clearly means that which is good for and to a servant which reasonable men would say that it is a good thing and they themselves would like that same good thing to be done to them or want that same good thing to be given to them.

Ok

No, I do not mean a tyrant. Anyone can be a tyrant whether a Ruler, a fellow man of equal standing or even a child.

But a Ruler does not need to be a tyrant unless he is a wicked Ruler. For He Commands, servants obey and His Will or Command is Done, therefore, no need for tyranny.

It is always the weak who are tyrants and have need of it, not the Strong!

I've got criticism of this, the relationship between the Creator and Man but it's going to deviate the current topic.

And there is your error!

Because my Father is Good I can ask reasonable questions, Obtain Understanding so that I can even ask Reasonable Requests. He will Not Withold Any Good Thing From Me!

I do not know if your father accepts unreasonable questions and unreasonable requests, I stand to be corrected but I know that no wise father accepts unreasonable questions and unreasonable requests!

So what is to be considered unreasonable about this proposed request?

And what is your solution?

What is your answer or contribution to the op's question?