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Re: Scientists Who Converted To Islam And Their Reasons by mhmsadyq(m): 12:10pm On Sep 11, 2020 |
CHOPbeating: Anyways, Haters of Islam will always hate. For you to understand that verse of the Qur'an, you need to believe in a supreme being first. Do you believe in any God at all? |
Re: Scientists Who Converted To Islam And Their Reasons by ebbo(m): 12:12pm On Sep 11, 2020 |
Xmuslim: If all this powerful more knowledgeable western scientists says Qur'an can only come from a super natural being at the time of revelation, why u that u are a no body in times of brain,achievement,knowledge and exposure, in compare to this great scientists says otherwise. 3 Likes |
Re: Scientists Who Converted To Islam And Their Reasons by k4kenny(f): 12:14pm On Sep 11, 2020 |
mamaafrik: Let me correct your statistics before responding. I don't know the actual stastistics of Alfas who own a Bible, but let me assure you that they don't search it for guidance of to know about their Creator. It's mostly used for comparative purposes. 100% of Muslims believe the Bible is adulterated. The proof is in the contradictions and in consistencies in the Bible. Further proof is being uncovered by scholars like Bart Ehrman, Dr Gerald Dirks(May Allah have mercy on his soul) an co. They hav gone trough thousands of biblical manusripts. The bible you carry around today have been edited and re edited multiple times over the centuries. It is still being revised till this very day. No one knows the author of the bible as each book( eg the Gospel 'according' to Mathew) was copied fron dozens of manuscripts written decades apart. We do not say the Qur'an was 'written by God' as you put it up there. We believe it was sent by God, in piecemeal, to our Noble Prophet(Peace be upon him) through the Holy Spirit(Angel Gabriel). It was revealed over a period of 23 years. 100% of Muslims do not believe in the trinity. Belief in the trinity takes you out of the religion of Islam Q 4: 141 ... Do not speak of a trinity.... God is ONE, with no equals or partners and nothing bares any form of resemblance to HIM. We don't believe he was crucified for the sins of humanity. Only a sinister god would lynch and kill an innocent person for the sins of others. Can't he simply forgive. We believe Jesus(peace be upon him) is coming back destroy the antichrist and set the records straight. He is NOT God, he didn't come to die for anybody's sins. He simply came to preach the Gospel to the children of Israel, to tell them to worship one God and none other. We 100% believe in the Gospel Jesus came to preach, even though we've never seen the original Gospel of Jesus, nor the original Torah of Moses. The messages has been corrupted by the Europeans to suit their theological desires. Hope this answers your questions. Peace be upon you 14 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Scientists Who Converted To Islam And Their Reasons by Xmuslim: 12:14pm On Sep 11, 2020 |
fashionhub:your assumption is flawed. It is like the discussion between Ibn taymiya and the other sect (I fgt the name) Ibn taymiya claimed that revelation should be taken over intellect while the other party prefer the reverse. If your logic would be valid and non Muslim also reject anything their scripture reject albeit against common sense, do you think inter religion conversion would be possible? Lastly, if you assume yourself to be alien and got to this planet with the assignment of looking for the right religion, would you depend on your brain or the scriptures of the religions you meet on the planet? Think about this very well. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Scientists Who Converted To Islam And Their Reasons by medexico(m): 12:19pm On Sep 11, 2020 |
Xmuslim: I agree, can you please expantiate? |
Re: Scientists Who Converted To Islam And Their Reasons by Xmuslim: 12:19pm On Sep 11, 2020 |
Muslim these days are blaming their brain instead of the holes in the Islamic narratives. I'm disillusioned about them. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Scientists Who Converted To Islam And Their Reasons by motayoayinde: 12:20pm On Sep 11, 2020 |
philo04:I PRAY THAT YOU DO. THE MESSAGE OF ISLAM IS SIMPLE. IT'S THE TOTAL SUBMISSION TO, AND SINCERE WORSHIP OF THE ONLY ONE GOD, ALLAH. AND ALLAH IS SIMPLY THE ARABIC NAME FOR GOD. ISLAM IS STRICTLY OPPOSED TO THE WORSHIP OF ANYONE OR ANYTHING EXCEPT GOD. IMAGE-WORSHIP AND ALL FORMS OF IDOLATRY ARE FORBIDDEN IN ISLAM. ALL THOSE SENT BY ALLAH WITH HIS MESSAGE TO MANKIND ARE ONLY HIS PROPHETS WHO DESERVE RESPECT BUT NOT WORSHIP. JESUS IS A RESPECTED PROPHET IN ISLAM. 3 Likes |
Re: Scientists Who Converted To Islam And Their Reasons by Akhirastriver(m): 12:23pm On Sep 11, 2020 |
CHOPbeating:See mumu ,so in the Quran Allah said mix the element to get this ,or connect this wires to get that ,he only talked abt how he created everything in existence with solid scientific proofs ,let's leave that aside Major advancement today in science and medicine av foundations from Muslim, Even mathematics ,optics so much more. Google those people's work 1.Abu sinna 2.imam aljazari ,came up with gearing system which tractors use today. And ure talking abt Muslim bringing scientific innovations ,y did u use Nigeria as an example ,ar u happy with the way the country is ?. How much has the government give u during this lockdown? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Scientists Who Converted To Islam And Their Reasons by k4kenny(f): 12:25pm On Sep 11, 2020 |
Xmuslim: Because we were created to be tested. That's the sole purpose of our creation. In Q 51:56 Allah says: 'And I have not created Jinn and Mankind except to worship me'. The sole purpose of ou creations is to worship Him and abide by His rulings. Other things are secondary. But humans have made the worship of the Almighty secondary. Allah does not even need our worship. If the entire 7 billion people on the globe and countless Jinns decide to start worshipping Him, it'll add nothing to His Greatness. Before you claim it's 'unfair' to punish the unbelievers, know that the Creator of all that exists has warned us several times in the Qur'an. He is ever ready to accept a sincerere repentance and guide them right. All it takes is your sincerity. 5 Likes |
Re: Scientists Who Converted To Islam And Their Reasons by Akhirastriver(m): 12:25pm On Sep 11, 2020 |
k4kenny:Jazakumulahu khairan 1 Like |
Re: Scientists Who Converted To Islam And Their Reasons by Jayhansdboss(m): 12:26pm On Sep 11, 2020 |
Xmuslim:But you are still alive. Does that mean you are a liar?? 6 Likes |
Re: Scientists Who Converted To Islam And Their Reasons by jimmynauty: 12:27pm On Sep 11, 2020 |
Which muslim can show that "WE" in this verse is NOT more than ONE? who are the others? Q.23:12 وَلَقَدْ خَلَقْنَا ٱلْإِنسَٰنَ مِن سُلَٰلَةٍ مِّن طِينٍ And certainly did Wecreate man from an extract of clay. Q.23:13 كِينٍ Then Weplaced him as a sperm-drop in a firm lodging. Q.23:14 We means more than one... so ' 1 Like |
Re: Scientists Who Converted To Islam And Their Reasons by mhmsadyq(m): 12:27pm On Sep 11, 2020 |
Xmuslim: "Independent thinker." This was were you lost it. Then you gave conditions base on your thoughts before you can debate. You don't believe there are a problems with your conditions, yet I should believe there are problems with my beliefs. Oga, you lost it completely... 1 Like |
Re: Scientists Who Converted To Islam And Their Reasons by Xmuslim: 12:28pm On Sep 11, 2020 |
Jayhansdboss:because I don't reveal my identity in the public. But wait, are you telling me that Islam (sunni Islam) does not ask Muslim government to kill apostate? 3 Likes |
Re: Scientists Who Converted To Islam And Their Reasons by k4kenny(f): 12:30pm On Sep 11, 2020 |
Xmuslim: You keep talking of these 'holes' without a detailed explanation. Qul ha tuu burhanakum in quntum saadiqeen. Say: produce your evidences if you're telling the truth(2:111) 5 Likes |
Re: Scientists Who Converted To Islam And Their Reasons by Xmuslim: 12:31pm On Sep 11, 2020 |
medexico:the concept of eternal hell fire is a dangerous teaching. Why would God punish people eternally just because they don't believe in his supposed right religion. Mind you, most people die in the religion of their parents because it is the lens via which they examine other religions. There are many other dangerous teachings but let's start from here 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Scientists Who Converted To Islam And Their Reasons by Xmuslim: 12:33pm On Sep 11, 2020 |
k4kenny:do you know that Qur'an is not perfectly preserved as claimed by Muslim scholars? Let's start here. Check my thread. Can't begin to type all afresh https://www.nairaland.com/5951651/quran-preservation-mere-claim 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Scientists Who Converted To Islam And Their Reasons by fashionhub: 12:33pm On Sep 11, 2020 |
Xmuslim: Kai now There was no assumption to begin Why would you bring a respected Islamic scholar into view just to cover up your cluelessnes? No proof? Just mere words Come on. You just spoke of intellects Intellectual men speakbon facts with proof. If intellectual capacity were the keyway to righteousness, why would a sage like you be perplexed over the Quran that was revealed to the one who couldn't write. It defies wisdom right? That's the point, if guidance were about intellectual capacities, every genius will be an angel Take that to you tutors, they should content your reasoning for the next century 2 Likes |
Re: Scientists Who Converted To Islam And Their Reasons by Xmuslim: 12:36pm On Sep 11, 2020 |
fashionhub:Being in a rush to conclusion is not a sign of intellectually sounded mind. Did I use Ibn taymiya to support my point? No. I actually brought a scenario where his view is similar to yours and concluded that I rejected his and your worldview 1 Like |
Re: Scientists Who Converted To Islam And Their Reasons by manbello(m): 12:37pm On Sep 11, 2020 |
Xmuslim:Sorry brother you were never a Muslim before, may Allah forgive us all 1 Like |
Re: Scientists Who Converted To Islam And Their Reasons by Xmuslim: 12:38pm On Sep 11, 2020 |
fashionhub:@bolded even enlightened scholars do not make this claim any more. You need to read wide |
Re: Scientists Who Converted To Islam And Their Reasons by k4kenny(f): 12:38pm On Sep 11, 2020 |
Xmuslim: You don't reveal your identity in public? lol Because of wetin? . I have tons of relatives who became christians, none of them is hiding. What are you hiding from . Or you think we're holding meetings in the masjids on how to fish out the apostates for slaughter Odiegwu!!! Any government that decides to kill apostates are doing it on their own will, not Islam. No verse in the Qur'an orders the killing of apostates. Those that were killed in the time of the Prophet were those who waged war and plotted to kill them at the time. I don't know what people today are basing their jurisdiction on. The Qur'an states on apostasy: 2:217-...If any of you revokes your faith and die as an unbeliever, your deeds would amount to nothing in this world and the Hereafter.... Also 2: 256 [There's] no compulsion in religion... 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Scientists Who Converted To Islam And Their Reasons by Xmuslim: 12:41pm On Sep 11, 2020 |
manbello:may Allah Curse be on whoever lie between us. lol joking. But that's one method quran used in a similar case. But again, you are daft to conclude without knowing me. You are one of the reasons why people keep advising us to reveal our true identity and stop anonymity. But we shall do that when we migrate away from where you could harm us 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Scientists Who Converted To Islam And Their Reasons by Xmuslim: 12:44pm On Sep 11, 2020 |
k4kenny:you are obviously not a sunni or sallafi Muslim. Mind you, sunni Muslims believe that you are a kafir for rejecting sahih Hadiths. What about that 1 Like |
Re: Scientists Who Converted To Islam And Their Reasons by fashionhub: 12:48pm On Sep 11, 2020 |
Xmuslim:Okay... Let's put it this way See. I understand you urge to make sense To make sense out of everything possible, and that's why right now I'm talking to you as I will talk to my younger brother, Everything does not go in 0s and 1s. You do not know anything The more you try to proof that wrong, the more you get nested in the debris of your intellectual jargons Alright... you want thinking abi, then tell me why the heaven(sky) is with no pillars
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Re: Scientists Who Converted To Islam And Their Reasons by Thenorth(m): 12:49pm On Sep 11, 2020 |
Xmuslim:You already long gone... Totally mislead... Just keep your strength aside, Cos you doesn't Even reach the kind of Disbeleaver that I will waste my precious time arguing about what the noble QUR'AN contain... I pray to Allah almighty every morning when I wake up to protect and keep me on my faith... 1 Like |
Re: Scientists Who Converted To Islam And Their Reasons by motayoayinde: 12:49pm On Sep 11, 2020 |
Xmuslim:YOU SHOULD BE DEAD NOW IF THAT'S THE CASE. APOSTASY LAW DOES EXIST IN THE PROPHETIC TRADITIONS (hadith), AS IT DOES IN THE JEWISH LAWS (in the bible) BUT ITS APPLICATION IS MUCH MORE RIGOROUS THAN ISLAMOPHOBES WOULD HAVE US BELIEVE. THESE DAYS IT'S NOT APPLIED IN MOST MUSLIM COUNTRIES. |
Re: Scientists Who Converted To Islam And Their Reasons by Xmuslim: 12:49pm On Sep 11, 2020 |
k4kenny:can't type all at a go. But follow my handle if you are interested in finding out the deficiency in Islam. First, check the flaw in the preservation of the Qur'an. We were lied to that Qur'an was perfectly preserved. https://www.nairaland.com/5951651/quran-preservation-mere-claim |
Re: Scientists Who Converted To Islam And Their Reasons by Xmuslim: 12:50pm On Sep 11, 2020 |
motayoayinde:you surprised me. Did read sahih buhari at all? Do you know how many countries that still apply it including Northern Nigeria |
Re: Scientists Who Converted To Islam And Their Reasons by magzey: 12:50pm On Sep 11, 2020 |
Allahu Akbar, May Allah continue to shower his blessings upon our noble prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam. And all Muslim Ummah.Ameen 1 Like |
Re: Scientists Who Converted To Islam And Their Reasons by Jayhansdboss(m): 12:50pm On Sep 11, 2020 |
Xmuslim:When last was an apostate murdered in your country 1 Like |
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