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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 3:50pm On Sep 13, 2020 |
FieldMarshall06:SMH so wait in your mind na...You don talk word you can imagine 3 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by demolition: 4:10pm On Sep 13, 2020 |
FieldMarshall06: This RETARD You have to drag parents into your nonsense? 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 4:20pm On Sep 13, 2020 |
Anyway, we should have some peace now 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by ecomog1990: 4:52pm On Sep 13, 2020 |
nemesis8u: Naaaa, I've been long enough on this forum to know Indian man @nemesis8u defending Indian products for sake of national pride Hello nemesis8u, hope you are in good spirits and all is well with you. Here's my reply Bro – There is NO official specs & tech data on Yuktirath MPV published by its manufacturer Ordinance Factory Board ! This destroys all your claims of being correct. Be mature Bro, take some words loosely on a mere forum - 'copy' doesn't mean 100% exactly similar copy, that will be a clone - 'looks like', means seems like. We are all quoting private media sources that write different data. Nothing makes your claims right and mine wrong. I have read all publications on Yuktirath before I wrote, so nothing new to me in your long story. Media publications clearly and correctly say India copied Casspir to make Aditya & Yuktirath, you deny and say it was used as inspiration not copied. Whom are you fooling Bro? We may be Africans but not ignorant. India bought many Casspirs, years later made Yuktirath designed so much like Casspir, same thing India did to South African NTW anti-material rifle. You copied Casspir I say ceramic is 3 times price of steel in armouring, yes am right, check market prices. Your long story on composite is repeating common knowledge from internet my brother I have debated tired on composites including ceramic type face to face with MRAP manufacturers, they all say - too expensive, major repairs impossible, whole panel or vehicle often writen off, etc. F = ma & a = F/m Newtons 2nd law. No way you increase resistance to more kg of TNT, you must increase steel armour, that increases weight, that increases m = mass, that reduces a = acceleration speed of vehicle. All these are simple basic science of physics I don't need to write to prove my statement that once the Indian OEM factory OFB increases Yuktirath armour to resist 3 times Casspir TNT the Yuktirath must reduce something, like speed, hull body armour, or factory OEM played game of using composites like the ceramics I said costs 3 times more money. Above are the ways you can have same vehicle weight as other MRAPs and yet resist like 3 times explosive TNT. There is no magic in landmine explosive resistance, MRAPs are not magical, its all largely a game of varied thickness and strength of materials used in making these vehicles. As long as a published report says max speed is 50km, and no official factory data counters it, you cannot say it's wrong. Your preferred source of 85km is just as unofficial as mine. Mine makes sense by law of physics, so I quoted it. Ambush Protection in MRAP : It's your India that calls their MRAP a MPV, the rest of the world does not interchange it, and India is not world standard on MRAP, it's the South Africa that invented it, next is America. I notice all Indian made MPVs lack Ambush Protection essentials of MRAPs : Speed 100km to 150km & Hull armour 7.62mm AP to 14.5mm AP Many South African, American, Russian, Israeli MRAPs have variants with these special ambush survival and escape essentials of speed to escape & body armour thickness to resist bullets. Indian vehicles focus on land mines, so more of MPV Mine Protected Vehicles than Ambush Protected. This Ambush Protection issue offends your national pride, well no vex o ! As long as some media publications say Yuktirath hull resists 7.62mm Ball bullets you cannot say they are wrong because you saw one that says Armour Piercing 7.62mm AP. You selected only data that promotes your national pride. Dear @nemsis8u, be proud of India but also be honest and not claim I am wrong you only are right, when there is NO official data from manufacturer to prove anything. No offense Bro. Do have a lovely weekend. 11 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Faithful007: 5:14pm On Sep 13, 2020 |
Odunayaw:it think that article is a little wrong. First jf17 has more metal than composites. And what are stealth and jf17 doing in one page? 2 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 8:01pm On Sep 13, 2020 |
Zulum departs Maiduguri for Banki town at border of Chad Republic. On his continues efforts to resettle all the IDPs, provide humanitarian support and bring back the lost glory of Borno State, Borno Governor Prof Babagana Umara Zulum has today departed Maiduguri for Banki Local Government area in Borno State to see the condition of his people with a view to providing succor. 2 Likes
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by mekussa(m): 8:05pm On Sep 13, 2020 |
Toju200: BABA, WORDS OF WISDOM HERE: DONT PLAY IN THE MUD WITH PIGS. YOU GET DIRTY. THEY GET HAPPY. 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 8:07pm On Sep 13, 2020 |
Faithful007:It didn't say the JF17 was all composites did it? Things contribute to stealth (Reduced RCS) e.g composites |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralMarshall: 9:19pm On Sep 13, 2020 |
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralMarshall: 9:38pm On Sep 13, 2020 |
mekussa: The pigs here are those who just come to look for trouble. Someone will just quote you and say you are smoking weed and have brain damage. Imagine. From nowhere. And he has done it severally in the past, just quote and say someone smokes weed. Today, he got it really hot from that guy. He will not mess up next time. There is always a time to dance naked with a mad man, to put a stop to certain things . It's a faceless forum anyway . 2 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by demolition: 10:00pm On Sep 13, 2020 |
GeneralMarshall: You're obviously suffering from Dissociative Identity Disorder. From which guy exactly.? Is this not your second moniker? Marshall if e no good for your brain. QUIT 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralMarshall: 10:09pm On Sep 13, 2020 |
demolition: Really Lets get back to military stuffs. Okay. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Faithful007: 11:09pm On Sep 13, 2020 |
Odunayaw:Well for that stealth own , Me and you know that it shouldn't even be mentioned. JF17's RCS still gonna be damn high. the radar used alone shows that those guys weren't thinking about stealth at all. There's advantage though, over all the metallic parts should reduce maintenance. I heard that a good number of F-22s are not battle ready due to high cost of skin maintenance. 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 12:52am On Sep 14, 2020 |
ecomog1990: This is a sequence of events - You claimed something A fellow countrymen of urs posts info to puncture the claim Then u post data which suits ur pov, made up claims and a funny " science & tech story " to prop up ur story and ironically defend ur " pride " I then replied to puncture " the science & tech story " . My entire point was on " Speciality steel & composites keeps weight down with increased protection. " to counter your claim that increased armour will increase weight and reduce speed. Then u replied with F= ma cock and bull logic among others to skirt the real point of contention and obviously ending with my pride as the big issue lol Fair enough considering many people appreciated and agreed to ur post . But this changes things now and having being reminded maybe I have after all some pride and so best leave u guys to talk about " science & tech " & " f=ma ". 6 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by ecomog1990: 1:40am On Sep 14, 2020 |
nemesis8u: Come on nemesis8u, it's not a fight now, we are proving military science to entertain & inform our dear readers. My countryman didn't puncture my claim. I asked "how many MRAPS do you see resist above 14 kg under hull?" I NEVER said none exists above 14kg TNT. He said actually proved me right by finding only one such on the planet and said Yuktirath MPV ; or do you know up to five such MRAPs? We find only 1 out of like 100 MRAP types, shows my 'how many ?' is very correct. Ah !!! It's me that first mentioned composite armour not you o nemesis !!! In my answer to Yuktirath 45kg I said only alternatives like ceramics (used in composite mix) can let Yuktirath MPV gain 3 times increased resistance above Casspir. Please don't steal my own points and claim it as yours o! Don't be angry that I said there is NO official factory OEM data on Yuktirath MPV to prove me wrong and you right, that's the truth that destroys all your claims of correctness : dear brother, no vex because truth is bitter. Indian Pride is not a crime. I love India, those your fine girls, flat belly, figure 8, 'red dot 4 love' on their foreheads, sweet !!! 2 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Texman21: 2:31am On Sep 14, 2020 |
And no one bothered to alert me that a brawl has taken place on this thread 1 Like
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Tobiloba2407: 3:23am On Sep 14, 2020 |
demolition: ����� |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 3:26am On Sep 14, 2020 |
ecomog1990: This is my last post U claimed this in ur post " Its about science & tech, once you increase armour weight the speed reduces proportionately" It was my main point of contention , the very science & tech u invoked has advanced so much that use of speciality steels and composites allows one to increase protection without a corresponding increase in weight thereby preserving desired mobility. "If they double Casspir IED spec, they have compromised another spec to gain that one." This claim of urs I disputed because you r ignorant about the use of speciality steel and composites which allows one to increase protection without compromising weight and mobility specs " Ah !!! It's me that first mentioned composite armour not you o nemesis !!! " That's an out right lie u explicitly mentioned ceramic armour not composite armour ( which I mentioned first ) . Here is proof below which u wrote in reply to youghs " Option of ceramics armour to save weight, means you increase cost price 3 times so 400k MRAP becomes $1.2 million, then too expensive to repair that vehicle is written off and lost out of inventory after only one IED blast. " Now you posted this in reply to me " I said only alternatives like ceramics (used in composite mix) " Composite armour is a mix of various materials which may or may not use ceramics . Therefore Composite armour ( even if it uses ceramics ) is different and ceramic armour is different . 2 entirely different armouring material. A person who is in the technical know , will never indulge in play of words and obscuration . He will be a man of few words sticking to technicalities only. I have no reasons to be angry lol , I am only taken aback at the level of straw man arguments and selective bias which is down right tragic . The only thing that was in bad taste for me was how u kept bringing up pride and references to such . Pride is is best left to individuals who actually achieve things which r a matter of pride for them . appreciating is another matter. I am here for my own pleasure not to exibit any pride. 7 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Kalapizim(m): 7:02am On Sep 14, 2020 |
Texman21:If dem arrange meeting now the guy go change mouth 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by joshingjosh(m): 8:37am On Sep 14, 2020 |
Please all those Vehicles that are being manufactured by Dicion(or Eagle Manufacturing any one ) Apart from Ezugwu, which of them is amoured like this proforce Wizard F2??
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by youghs: 10:47am On Sep 14, 2020 |
joshingjosh: NAC-V. I don't think there's any vehicle DICON is producing that's not armoured except from their IPVs |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Texman21: 11:17am On Sep 14, 2020 |
Kalapizim:
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralMarshall: 12:22pm On Sep 14, 2020 |
The Nigerian army has evolved well... Then vs Now..... notice the better kits now . 2 Likes
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralMarshall: 12:24pm On Sep 14, 2020 |
DICON rocket project Source: Online 2 Likes
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralMarshall: 12:26pm On Sep 14, 2020 |
Please where are these NA vehicles. Anyone seen them in the NE theatre It seems some equipment are not being used in this war. Am not sure sha. .
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 1:40pm On Sep 14, 2020 |
Faithful007:In the marketing of the Gripen, they added talks of stealth because of small RCS.. Abi you think say na only shaping they reduce RCS? And what do you mean "Radar used alone"? |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by joshingjosh(m): 2:25pm On Sep 14, 2020 |
youghs: I mean something with all round protection of like 7.62mm |
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