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Re: FG Defends Dangote Over Plan To Sell Fuel At International Price by COMPAQ(m): 8:43pm On Sep 14, 2020
RealEzee:
we don't have a money problem but a management problem here, we keep on making budget yearly and taking loans without immediate effect in the economy, all Nigerians including myself ask for the basic things be met by the government and we will thrive, we talk of taxes daily yet what have they done with it really? I have lost trust for the government unfortunately bud.

Bros, seems you still have that mentality that Nigeria is rich?? No doubt our money from when we were rich has been squandered and contributed to our poverty of today, but as at RIGHT NOW, Nigeria is a poor country!!!!

FG budget for NIGERIA of N8trln is $20bln. CITY OF HOUSTON budget is $5.1bln. TEXAS STATE budget is $251bln!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Meanwhile population of Nigeria is 200mln, population of Texas is 29mln!!!!!!!!!

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Re: FG Defends Dangote Over Plan To Sell Fuel At International Price by Iscoalarcon: 8:43pm On Sep 14, 2020
Simplyleo:

That is why whenever you hear of a very rich African, have it at the back of your mind, they are cheats.

Most rich White became extremely rich from the output of their brains. But Africans become rich by exploiting and cheating fellow humans.
imagine what this @yoruba troll is saying?
Re: FG Defends Dangote Over Plan To Sell Fuel At International Price by Iscoalarcon: 8:46pm On Sep 14, 2020
mariahAngel:


They (politicians) gave him that power.
A very unscrupulous businessman who shamelessly ventures into every business, both small and very small.
since you have problem with him venturing into every type of bix why cant you start your own ventures and outcompete him?
Re: FG Defends Dangote Over Plan To Sell Fuel At International Price by mariahAngel(f): 8:52pm On Sep 14, 2020
Iscoalarcon:
since you have problem with him venturing into every type of bix why cant you start your own ventures and outcompete him?

You don't understand...

He's bullying small scale business owners into closure. It is not a fair playing ground for small business owners.

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Re: FG Defends Dangote Over Plan To Sell Fuel At International Price by obailala(m): 8:53pm On Sep 14, 2020
eagleu:


Most importantly, why is the corrupt Fulani government refusing to give other Nigerians the super sweet deal given to Dangote?
Lol.. i knew this flawed assertion will always come up again whenever Dangote's impending success hits the headlines.

In the game of capitalism and politics, the smartest player always wins. In the Nigerian terrain, DANGOTE is the smartest of them all, the G.O.A.T, and that's why he always wins; you can take that to the bank.

You say he succeeds because he's being favoured by the 'corrupt Fulani govt'. Permit me to correct your statement - Dangote isn't just favoured by the Fulani govt, he is favoured by every single government, both local and international, from north, east, west, south, Muslim, Christian, local banks, foreign banks, PDP, APC etc.

Every single businessman wants the priviledges Dangote enjoys, but somehow, only Dangote always gets it, regardless of the govt in power... He succeeds because he's a smart and shrewd businessman who knows how to 'press the mumu button' of any government. Building his refinery for instance was a masterstroke; that takes away a massive massive burden from govt. No matter how the person in govt wants to hate him, the govt quite often finds itself in a situation where it has no choice but to support Dangote...

That explains why he was favoured by OBJ (a corrupt southern Christian) over his competition like Ibeto, BUA etc. He was also favoured by GEJ (another corrupt southern Christian) over his competition before the current regime. So your relegation of his help system to the 'Fulani govt' or your ascribing it to tribe is rather a flawed logic.

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Re: FG Defends Dangote Over Plan To Sell Fuel At International Price by pafra(m): 9:03pm On Sep 14, 2020
edoairways:

What most Nigerians fail to understand is the fact that there is change in technology. Few years from now, the demand for petrol cars will reduce
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Like how long do you predict?

Forget all those noise about technology. They are other products and byproducts aside PMS to be refined from the refinery.

Dangote go recover him money still make enough profit.

Remember he is servicing Africa country and not the advance nation.
Re: FG Defends Dangote Over Plan To Sell Fuel At International Price by adekolaelect(m): 9:12pm On Sep 14, 2020
chriskosherbal:
weather we like it or not dangote is a private individual and has the right to sell at what price he wants, so we shouldn't crucify him, we should channel our anger to the govt who over the years have failed woefully in doing the needful.
which needful where all Nigerians have Frauds mentality ?NDDC ,machine Tools ,steel rolling ,Nigeria Textile and the rest comes to mind.

Re: FG Defends Dangote Over Plan To Sell Fuel At International Price by obailala(m): 9:14pm On Sep 14, 2020
edoairways:

What most Nigerians fail to understand is the fact that there is change in technology. Few years from now, the demand for petrol cars will reduce
When Dangote's refinery is completed, Nigerian govt will stop importation of petroleum products completely and the govt will completely deregulate the downstream sector (this has already even just happened). Being basically the sole supplier of such an indispensable product (other private refinery owners would supply less than 10% of Nigeria's demand), Dangote would unanimously fix the pump prices and it wouldn't be less than N250/litre. In less than 5 years, he would have recovered his entire investment and in the next 5 years again, he'd be competing with Gates and Bezos at the top spot, and the gross stupidity of Nigerian governments (past and present) would be exposed clearly for the world to see.

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Re: FG Defends Dangote Over Plan To Sell Fuel At International Price by edoairways: 9:22pm On Sep 14, 2020
pafra:
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Like how long do you predict?

Forget all those noise about technology. They are other products and byproducts aside PMS to be refined from the refinery.

Dangote go recover him money still make enough profit.

Remember he is servicing Africa country and not the advance nation.
If aren't aware,there is electric cars on board
Re: FG Defends Dangote Over Plan To Sell Fuel At International Price by surgical: 9:22pm On Sep 14, 2020
Obamaofusa:

There could be competition from petrolex which is building another 250000 p/b refinery in Ogun state too.When the sector remains in the private sector, things will be stabilized in the long run
like cement abi,dangote is a very rough and unfeeling business man,he will use his connection to muzzle out competitors in order to maintain his undue advantage
Nigerians can tolerate shit, somebody will just monopolize their common heritage and still be oppressing them with it

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Re: FG Defends Dangote Over Plan To Sell Fuel At International Price by Nobody: 9:39pm On Sep 14, 2020
Quote me:The fuel price under Dangote will increase to a certain amount, the government will start paying subsidy to Dangote.

You heard it here first.
Re: FG Defends Dangote Over Plan To Sell Fuel At International Price by COMPAQ(m): 9:48pm On Sep 14, 2020
obailala:

When Dangote's refinery is completed, Nigerian govt will stop importation of petroleum products completely and the govt will completely deregulate the downstream sector (this has already even just happened). Being basically the sole supplier of such an indispensable product (other private refinery owners would supply less than 10% of Nigeria's demand), Dangote would unanimously fix the pump prices and it wouldn't be less than N250/litre. In less than 5 years, he would have recovered his entire investment and in the next 5 years again, he'd be competing with Gates and Bezos at the top spot, and the gross stupidity of Nigerian governments (past and present) would be exposed clearly for the world to see.

So if Dangote is selling for N250 and I could bring in from South Africa for N180, sourcing forex by myself, why would FG stop me. Don't create unnecessary conspiracy theories. Dangote is just a better business man that has better vision than most. Being connected helps, but that is not all of the story.
Re: FG Defends Dangote Over Plan To Sell Fuel At International Price by Nobody: 9:51pm On Sep 14, 2020
COMPAQ:


So if Dangote is selling for N250 and I could bring in from South Africa for N180, sourcing forex by myself, why would FG stop me. Don't create unnecessary conspiracy theories. Dangote is just a better business man that has better vision than most. Being connected helps, but that is not all of the story.

How is a better business man when he has always enjoyed monopoly from the military and civilian regimes. The same can be said of Kola Aluko that got the oil lifting contracts.

You are given monopoly to import cement,flour,sugar,pasta for a nation of 200 million people and now have monopoly to refine oil and you tell me that takes ingenuity.

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Re: FG Defends Dangote Over Plan To Sell Fuel At International Price by rafindo(m): 10:32pm On Sep 14, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:


Government has always favoured him by giving him monopoly in key industries and that is why he is the richest man in the country and not through any ingenuity.

Any novice can become a billionaire if given monopoly, look at Kola Aluko given monopoly with the oil lifting contracts.
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It like you don't know what monopoly is.
Name a sector the man has monopolies
Re: FG Defends Dangote Over Plan To Sell Fuel At International Price by Nobody: 10:33pm On Sep 14, 2020
rafindo:
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It like you don't know what monopoly is.
Name a sector the man has monopolies

You will find all you need about the Dangote in Wikileaks cable.
Re: FG Defends Dangote Over Plan To Sell Fuel At International Price by rafindo(m): 10:50pm On Sep 14, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:


How is a better business man when he has always enjoyed monopoly from the military and civilian regimes. The same can be said of Kola Aluko that got the oil lifting contracts.

You are given monopoly to import cement,flour,sugar,pasta for a nation of 200 million people and now have monopoly to refine oil and you tell me that takes ingenuity.


You are just emotional.
How many cement company do Nigeria have.
How many flour company do Nigeria have.
How many sugar company do Nigeria have.

If you answer this question honestly then you will know that the man has not done anything apart from utilizing opportunity.
Re: FG Defends Dangote Over Plan To Sell Fuel At International Price by Nobody: 11:03pm On Sep 14, 2020
rafindo:



You are just emotional.
How many cement company do Nigeria have.
How many flour company do Nigeria have.
How many sugar company do Nigeria have.

If you answer this question honestly then you will know that the man has not done anything apart from utilizing opportunity.

Which opportunity, when he started enjoying monopolies since the 80's.

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Re: FG Defends Dangote Over Plan To Sell Fuel At International Price by rafindo(m): 11:18pm On Sep 14, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:


Which opportunity, when he started enjoying monopolies since the 80's.

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And I asked you a simple question which sector does he enjoy monopoly.

Cement he has 3 competitors BUA,LA farge,ibeto and unicem/burham.
Sugar he has competitors in flour Mill, Honeywell,bua and so many others.
Flour he has Flour Mill, crown Mill, Honeywell, pure mill and so on.in fact he has sold his flour business to olam. So tell me the monopoly now.
Re: FG Defends Dangote Over Plan To Sell Fuel At International Price by Nobody: 11:33pm On Sep 14, 2020
rafindo:
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And I asked you a simple question which sector does he enjoy monopoly.

Cement he has 3 competitors BUA,LA farge,ibeto and unicem/burham.
Sugar he has competitors in flour Mill, Honeywell,bua and so many others.
Flour he has Flour Mill, crown Mill, Honeywell, pure mill and so on.in fact he has sold his flour business to olam. So tell me the monopoly now.

Dangote will not be were he is today if it wasn't for the monopoly he got from IBB in the 80s; Abacha in the 90's and OBJ in the 2000's fact!

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Re: FG Defends Dangote Over Plan To Sell Fuel At International Price by rafindo(m): 11:34pm On Sep 14, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:


You will find all you need about the Dangote in Wikileaks cable.

https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/05LAGOS362_a.html
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All what the cable is saying is what happens in a nation where majority of the business men are short slighted. Facebook has been accused of trying to monopolize the social media space.
Those crying monopoly are those who failed to be innovative in the same business the man is in.

Check cement 10 companies where given license to build cement plant why the enjoy the import waiver for some time ,guess what they where enjoying the forex bonaza and the huge profit gotten from importation. Of all the 10 only dangote and bua where able to build cement plant. Where you expecting government to come and build the cement plant for them besides government has to stop the importation immediately their was a sense of sufficiency. Do u know how many people has been employed by his 4 plant to compare with the time their was importation.
Do you know that 20 where given license to build refinery but they chose the subsidy bonanza. Abeg free the man. He is not the problem of unserious business men. Let me give you an expo. Dangcom is a company he setup in order to join the telecommunications sector but baba is counting time when he will join the foray. As I speak to you he has the largest optic fiber cable connection in Nigeria. They where many that was given GSM license but how many have done something, when he joins the foray we begin with government is favoring him bullshit.

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Re: FG Defends Dangote Over Plan To Sell Fuel At International Price by obailala(m): 11:38pm On Sep 14, 2020
COMPAQ:


So if Dangote is selling for N250 and I could bring in from South Africa for N180, sourcing forex by myself, why would FG stop me. Don't create unnecessary conspiracy theories. Dangote is just a better business man that has better vision than most. Being connected helps, but that is not all of the story.
If you can import the products for N180, Dangote would simply adjust his prices to N178 and knock you out of business, or he'd bribe the govt to increase import duties to ensure the imported products can never fall cheaper than his.

And by the way, these arent conspiracy theories; it's just an analysis of the potential outcomes based on past events.

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Re: FG Defends Dangote Over Plan To Sell Fuel At International Price by rafindo(m): 11:38pm On Sep 14, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:


Dangote will not be were he is today if it wasn't for the monopoly he got from IBB in the 80s; Abacha in the 90's and OBJ in the 2000's fact!
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You have not answered any question now.what sector did he monopolies ,you continue to pour pure hate on the man. Do you know you can't be rich or wealth if you don't control the demand and supply indices in your sector. Will you say that innoson has monopolised the local auto industry or you forgot that ibeto also monopolize d the motorcycle importation business.
Re: FG Defends Dangote Over Plan To Sell Fuel At International Price by Nobody: 11:39pm On Sep 14, 2020
rafindo:
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All what the cable is saying is what happens in a nation where majority of the business men are short slighted. Facebook has been accused of trying to monopolize the social media space.
Those crying monopoly are those who failed to be innovative in the same business the man is in.

Check cement 10 companies where given license to build cement plant why the enjoy the import waiver for some time ,guess what they where enjoying the forex bonaza and the huge profit gotten from importation. Of all the 10 only dangote and bua where able to build cement plant. Where you expecting government to come and build the cement plant for them besides government has to stop the importation immediately their was a sense of sufficiency. Do u know how many people has been employed by his 4 plant to compare with the time their was importation.
Do you know that 20 where given license to build refinery but they chose the subsidy bonanza. Abeg free the man. He is not the problem of unserious business men. Let me give you an expo. Dangcom is a company he setup in order to join the telecommunications sector but baba is counting time when he will join the foray. As I speak to you he has the largest optic fiber cable connection in Nigeria. They where many that was given GSM license but how many have done something, when he joins the foray we begin with government is favoring him bullshit.

This contains all you need to know and the damage he done long-term. They even mentioned the Nigerian government doesn't think about the long term consequences of him having monopoly and the damage it will do the Nigerian economy.
Re: FG Defends Dangote Over Plan To Sell Fuel At International Price by Nobody: 11:40pm On Sep 14, 2020
rafindo:
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You have not answered any question now.what sector did he monopolies ,you continue to pour pure hate on the man. Do you know you can't be rich or wealth if you don't control the demand and supply indices in your sector. Will you say that innoson has monopolised the local auto industry or you forgot that ibeto also monopolize d the motorcycle importation business.

Why will evil and fantastically corrupt despots like IBB and Abacha give Dangote monopoly in the 80s and 90's. What was in it for them?

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Re: FG Defends Dangote Over Plan To Sell Fuel At International Price by rafindo(m): 11:42pm On Sep 14, 2020
obailala:
If you can import the products for N180, Dangote would simply adjust his prices to N178 and knock you out of business, or he'd bribe the govt to increase import duties to ensure the imported products can never fall cheaper than his.

And by the way, these arent conspiracy theories; it's just an analysis of the potential outcomes based on past events.
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Business is not charity and besides Nigeria is not running socialism. First to enter a sector enjoys monopoly until competition are there .government is interested in more company been established in order to get more revenue that his the truth about the matter. So if you can't compete favourably in the sector learn from him just the same way he sold his flour company to olam group.
Re: FG Defends Dangote Over Plan To Sell Fuel At International Price by obailala(m): 11:53pm On Sep 14, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:


Dangote will not be were he is today if it wasn't for the monopoly he got from IBB in the 80s; Abacha in the 90's and OBJ in the 2000's fact!
Every businessman lobbies, bribes, schemes, fights, some even murder people to get those monopolistic priviledges which Dangote always gets. Why then exactly does it favour only Dangote regardless of the regime? From IBB to Abacha to Abdulsalam to OBJ to Yaradua to GEJ to Buhari? How come every single govt somehow favours Dangote like he's the only businessman out there in the field?...

The answer to the above is simple, Dangote is the G.O.A.T! He simply does it better than otbers....

Take his refinery for instance, the government has been issuing licenses and literally begging investors to come build refineries. No one seemed to care, everyone preferred the safer investment of importing products and collecting subsidies. With Dangote taking that bull by the horn, he's taking away an age-long massive massive massive burden from govt, and irrespective of who's in power, or how much the regime hates Aliko, the govt has absolutely no choice than to help him. We need to give it up for the man abeg!

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Re: FG Defends Dangote Over Plan To Sell Fuel At International Price by rafindo(m): 11:55pm On Sep 14, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:


Why will evil and fantastically corrupt despots like IBB and Abacha give Dangote monopoly in the 80s and 90's. What was in it for them?
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Monopoly and he sold his flour company. I laugh out loud. You are just pained that all.
Re: FG Defends Dangote Over Plan To Sell Fuel At International Price by obailala(m): 11:59pm On Sep 14, 2020
rafindo:
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Business is not charity and besides Nigeria is not running socialism. First to enter a sector enjoys monopoly until competition are there .government is interested in more company been established in order to get more revenue that his the truth about the matter. So if you can't compete favourably in the sector learn from him just the same way he sold his flour company to olam group.
I'm guessing you replied a wrong post here? I'm not sure where I inferred that business is charity or where I made any complaint about Dangote's monopoly. I only stated things as they are.
Re: FG Defends Dangote Over Plan To Sell Fuel At International Price by Nobody: 12:00am On Sep 15, 2020
obailala:
Every businessman lobbies, bribes, schemes, fights, some even murder people to get those monopolistic priviledges which Dangote always gets. Why then exactly does it favour only Dangote regardless of the regime? From IBB to Abacha to Abdulsalam to OBJ to Yaradua to GEJ to Buhari? How come every single govt somehow favours Dangote like he's the only businessman out there in the field?...

The answer to the above is simple, Dangote is the G.O.A.T! He simply does it better than otbers....

Take his refinery for instance, the government has been issuing licenses and literally begging investors to come build refineries. No one seemed to care, everyone preferred the safer investment of importing products and collecting subsidies. With Dangote taking that bull by the horn, he's taking away an age-long massive massive massive burden from govt, and irrespective of who's in power, or how much the regime hates Aliko, the govt has absolutely no choice than to help him. We need to give it up for the man abeg!

Nigeria the world headquarters of corruption and with some of the most corrupt leaders to ever walk the planet like IBB,Abacha,OBJ gave Dangote monopoly in the 80's,90's and 2000's. He is not to be admired for what he traded to get those monopolies.

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Re: FG Defends Dangote Over Plan To Sell Fuel At International Price by nnamdi640: 12:06am On Sep 15, 2020
As long he is an Hausa man,they will defend him

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Re: FG Defends Dangote Over Plan To Sell Fuel At International Price by obailala(m): 12:23am On Sep 15, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:


How is a better business man when he has always enjoyed monopoly from the military and civilian regimes. The same can be said of Kola Aluko that got the oil lifting contracts.

You are given monopoly to import cement,flour,sugar,pasta for a nation of 200 million people and now have monopoly to refine oil and you tell me that takes ingenuity.
He earned that monopoly, Dangote earned it and we need to stop hating on the man...

Long before Dangote got his license to build a refinery, the govt was literally begging local and foreign investors to come take licenses and build refineries. Several people took those licenses but ended up building storage tank farms just to import fuel. Dangote took a bold step by delving into the uncharted territory of building a private refinery; he hasnt even completed it but here you are, already hating on him for being a monopoly? Was it Dangote that stopped others from building refineries? Wow! Humans are indeed amazing!

Something similar happened for cement and sugar. There was a govt policy (I think it was called 'import substitution') which gave import licenses only to businesses that had shown capacity or intent to produce the imported goods locally in Nigeria... Whilst other businesses were busy importing, Dangote was busy developing his cement factories simultaneously. And now we want to blame Dangote for being serious and focused?
Re: FG Defends Dangote Over Plan To Sell Fuel At International Price by obailala(m): 12:31am On Sep 15, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:


Nigeria the world headquarters of corruption and with some of the most corrupt leaders to ever walk the planet like IBB,Abacha,OBJ gave Dangote monopoly in the 80's,90's and 2000's. He is not to be admired for what he traded to get those monopolies.
I'm sorry but that's how capitalism works all over the world, Dangote is definitely worthy of all admiration for excellently distinguishing himself from his colleagues. He isnt the only businessman in Nigeria that lobbies for favours from govt, every single businessman does the same thing, all over the world. With all the corruption in Nigeria from IBB to Abacha to OBJ to date, how come Dangote is the only businessman it always favours? How come he always leads irrespective of the govt in charge? You think it's a mere coincidence? Building his refinery for instance was taking away a massive responsibility and burden from govt. So even if the govt hates him, you cant help but support him (for everyone's good).

I'm sorry but you have to give honour to whom it is due. Dangote's smartness and acumen can never be overemphasised.

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