thorrvik55:




Babayaro >>>>> Mikel

Okay seen but again we can’t even be comparing Babayaro and Mikel
Babayaro was a defender and Mikel a midfielder but if you ask me who is bigger man to me Mikel is bigger than Babayaro

Only Kanu in Nigeria can match Mikel when it comes to achievements, others would join the queue

thorrvik55:


Footballers sha

He said he has been supporting Chelsea right from his childhood days

Might be true

He's an African and Chelsea have more supporters because of the Africa heritage in the club

Neobulletzz:

Okay seen but again we can’t even be comparing Babayaro and Mikel
Babayaro was a defender and Mikel a midfielder but if you ask me who is bigger man talent to me Mikel is bigger than Babayaro

Only Kanu in Nigeria can match Mikel when it comes to achievements, others would join the queue

He said "bigger talent" bro..
The key tin here is talent not achievement

My grandfather went out to urinate last night and he hasn't returned. .........








We think Chelsea has signed him.

odizeey:

How can you judge by trophies?

Is mustaphi a bigger talent than Aubumeyang?

I wonder oh, but the entire world is changing, people now judge by the trophies you won even though you didn't play a single match through out the tournament and your Team eventually won then your are bigger than someone whose talent is superb but have little trophies to show for it.

... Meanwhile Morata is better and greater than Raumdeuter's Lewandoski 5×

MorataFC:
I wonder oh, but the entire world is changing, people now judge by the trophies you won even though you didn't play a single match through out the tournament and your Team eventually won then your are bigger than someone whose talent is superb but have little trophies to show for it.

... Meanwhile Morata is better and greater than Raumdeuter's Lewandoski 5×

Oga achievements makes you bigger in football

Why is Messi and Ronaldo the biggest footballers in the world today, it is because of their achievements

Well you can’t say Mikel didn’t contribute or play to the trophies he won at Chelsea

hensben:
Then give us Neuer and collect Kepa

Neobulletzz:

I didn’t set anything
The post I quoted earlier on was Babayaro was bigger than Mikel, no talent was included in the context
Infact both played for Chelsea and also look at their achievements so who was bigger

Talent wise Anderson can’t lace Ballack’s boot
And again if we go into their achievements Anderson was a carry along player who contributed nothing to what he has achieved just like Daniel Sturridge who have two Champions League without doing anything, didn’t even play

You must be joking. Anderson carry along like sturidge. E be things.

MorataFC:
I wonder oh, but the entire world is changing, people now judge by the trophies you won even though you didn't play a single match through out the tournament and your Team eventually won then your are bigger than someone whose talent is superb but have little trophies to show for it.

... Meanwhile Morata is better and greater than Raumdeuter's Lewandoski 5×

I just laugh at some points I see.

odizeey:

You must be joking. Anderson carry along like sturidge. E be things.

Yes Anderson or is it not Anderson of Man U you are talking about?

I put the “Champions league” specifically for Sturridge. The two Champions league medal Sturridge have, what was his contribution to achieving that, he won one at Chelsea and one at Liverpool so answer me what was Sturridge’s contribution to achieving that, was he not just a carry along player in both?

MorataFC:
I wonder oh, but the entire world is changing, people now judge by the trophies you won even though you didn't play a single match through out the tournament and your Team eventually won then your are bigger than someone whose talent is superb but have little trophies to show for it.

... Meanwhile Morata is better and greater than Raumdeuter's Lewandoski 5×

Again go and Check Morata and Lewandowski achievements before you even start saying this rubbish you wrote

Neobulletzz:

Yes Anderson or is it not Anderson of Man U you are talking about?

I put the “Champions league” specifically for Sturridge. The two Champions league medal Sturridge have, what was his contribution to achieving that, he won one at Chelsea and one at Liverpool so answer me what was Sturridge’s contribution to achieving that, was he not just a carry along player in both?

In 2012
Sturidge played 429 minutes with 7 appearances

Mikel had 695 with 9 appearances.

Is that carry along?

In 2008 Anderson played 494 minutes and 9 appearances. And also came from bench in the final. How is that carry along?

In the EPL, 2012 sturidge had more appearances than Mikel. Who was the carry along?

Bigger Talent.

Bergekamp or Pedro?

odizeey:

In 2012
Sturidge played 429 minutes with 7 appearances

Mikel had 695 with 9 appearances.

Is that carry along?

In 2008 Anderson played 494 minutes and 9 appearances. And also came from bench in the final. How is that carry along?

In the EPL, 2012 sturidge had more appearances than Mikel. Who was the carry along?

I don’t understand you
Sturridge appearances is it in the league or champions league

Anderson was in Man U for 8 years, how many matches did he start? He came in mostly as sub probably 5 or 10 minutes cameo, and that count as appearances too, that is what I meant when I said Anderson was a carry along player

Now to Mikel
Mikel have 249 EPL appearances for Chelsea
Started in 183 games and came in as sub 66 times
During Mikel’s spell in Chelsea, Chelsea played in 10 finals, Mikel played in 8 of those finals, now with these would you tell me Mikel was a carry along player?

Neobulletzz:

I don’t understand you
Sturridge appearances is it in the league or champions league

Anderson was in Man U for 8 years, how many matches did he start? He came in mostly as sub probably 5 or 10 minutes cameo, and that count as appearances too, that is what I meant when I said Anderson was a carry along player

Now to Mikel
Mikel have 249 EPL appearances for Chelsea
Started in 183 games and came in as sub 66 times
During Mikel’s spell in Chelsea, Chelsea played in 10 finals, Mikel played in 8 of those finals, now with these would you tell me Mikel was a carry along player?

Did I tell you Mikel was carry along?

I'm telling you Anderson was not. Yes. Squad player. But not carry along.

He made contributions to the team's success. And was injured most times.

You said sturigge made no contribution to UCL 2012. I showed you his stat for EPL and UCL that season and you are asking me questions.

Mikel wen go play full season without goal and assist.

This exposes why one has to watch who to debate on this forum.

They are mentioning talent and people are basing their entire argument on trophies won.

It is what it is. Mendy sorry o.

All of this because of what Mendy said?

It's obvious why he mentioned those players na...Mikel is much more recent than Babayaro, as are Drogba and Essien that he also mentioned.

He's 28 so it stands to reason that these are they guys that would come to mind.

BlueMann:
All of this because of what Mendy said?

It's obvious why he mentioned those players na...Mikel is much more recent than Babayaro, as are Drogba and Essien that he also mentioned.

He's 28 so it stands to reason that these are they guys that would come to mind.

This is what anyone will say and you'll reason with him.

odizeey:

Did I tell you Mikel was carry along?

I'm telling you Anderson was not. Yes. Squad player. But not carry along.

He made contributions to the team's success. And was injured most times.

You said sturigge made no contribution to UCL 2012. I showed you his stat for EPL and UCL that season and you are asking me questions.

Mikel wen go play full season without goal and assist.

That is why I am asking the Sturridge apps you wrote the one with 7 apps I don’t know where, that was why I asked was it EPL or Champions league?

afrodoc2:

This exposes why one has to watch who to debate on this forum.

They are mentioning talent and people are basing their entire argument on trophies won.

It is what it is. Mendy sorry o.

Nobody is arguing talent here

The argument here is who is bigger Babayaro or Mikel?

And my answer was Bigger to me is Mikel

I would like to see your own answer too, who is bigger amongst the two?

afrodoc2:

This exposes why one has to watch who to debate on this forum.

They are mentioning talent and people are basing their entire argument on trophies won.

It is what it is. Mendy sorry o.

This is why the axiom that some Chelsea fans are ignorant holds true for most of the time. You judge players based on their individual contributions to their team's successes via stats and eye-test.

Neobulletzz:

That is why I am asking the Sturridge apps you wrote the one with 7 apps I don’t know where, that was why I asked was it EPL or Champions league?

7 in UCL na.

Lol you people should calm down, we learn from each other even if we argue okay

The argument here is who is bigger

Now these are two Nigerian players that played for Chelsea
Babayaro and Mikel
Who was a better player, maybe Babayaro but now who is bigger is the argument?

Na argument before una carry una carry una serious self like say una sabi everything

I gave my opinion why Mikel is bigger and if you feel my opinion is not valid, then you say why Babayaro is bigger na, nobody dey share money put

odizeey:

7 in UCL na.

Ohhhh okay

Shalaye. After being found out.

odizeey:

This is what anyone will say and you'll reason with him.

I think the argument is clear sha; if were talking strictly talent, then one can argue Babayaro has the advantage. But in terms of greatness or who is bigger, it's gotta be Mikel.

I guess Mendy was reasoning along the line of the latter. No need to overstress the issue.

odizeey:
Shalaye. After been found out.

Lol who dey shalaye. I still maintain my ground that Mikel is bigger than Babayaro

Only Kanu for Nigeria fit pass Mikel, the rest NO

BlueMann:


I think the argument is clear sha; if were talking strictly talent, then one can argue Babayaro has the advantage. But in terms of greatness or who is bigger, it's gotta be Mikel.

I guess Mendy was reasoning along the line of the latter. No need to overstress the issue.

Thank you man, you just said what I have been saying

thorrvik55:
Mendy on Chelsea’s long heritage of African greats:

“Most of the biggest African talent has played for this team. Drogba, Essien, Eto’o, Mikel. When you see that, you want to continue it."

He seriously mentioned Mikel as one of Africa's biggest talent but forgot Celestine Babayaro played for Chelsea

It depends on how you define bigger

1. of considerable importance or seriousness.
"it's a big decision"

Informal
very popular or successful.
"African bands which are big in Britain"

Informal
holding an important position or playing an influential role.
"as a senior in college, he was a big man on campus"

BlueMann:


I think the argument is clear sha; if were talking strictly talent, then one can argue Babayaro has the advantage. But in terms of greatness or who is bigger, it's gotta be Mikel.

I guess Mendy was reasoning along the line of the latter. No need to overstress the issue.

Greatness in terms of appearance.

In other news, we will see this ugly kit today

odizeey:


Greatness in terms of appearance.

SMH