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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 4:04pm On Sep 26, 2020
edi287:

Check the post i replied to. If we're saying because we don't have an AM in the top 5 leagues and should look for one outside Europe - I'm asking who outside Europe would be a better option than we have currently??


There is nobody currently on the super eagles that plays there for their club so what do you mean options we have currently? I already said I wasn't name dropping. All I said was that the philosopher had a point
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 4:05pm On Sep 26, 2020
Tolu Arokodare is in!!

76 mins sub.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 4:12pm On Sep 26, 2020
Awoniyi taken off at 58th minute. Not a debut to remember.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 4:17pm On Sep 26, 2020
Arokodare headers the ball wide. First big chance
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 4:29pm On Sep 26, 2020
Akpom and osayi scores for middlesborough and qpr respectively

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 4:46pm On Sep 26, 2020
Iwobi subbed in

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by wayodude(m): 4:53pm On Sep 26, 2020
komekn:


I passed my driving test in the UK after one lesson ( I studied the theory on my own) and passed at first attempt.

There were many of my Nigerian brethren who attempted up to 7 times before they could pass.

What is experience knowledge by participative application.

The better the arena, organisation and or placement the experience is gained from , the more valued that experience. And you could say better quality application as well.

Thats why your first place of employment will define to a large extent your degree ad infinitum.

I expand if you trained to be a chef and your first job is at the Ritz Paris, you have given yourself high level value. If your first job is at Mr Biggs then you have given yourself identity at that level.

If you studied Chemistry but worked at Goldman Sachs ( investment banking group) and become an investment analyst, your career is literally defined in the high elite income bracket of the world.

If you studied Finance and Economics but worked for Oredo local government council, your career is defined at the level.

I know about coaching badges in England's Scotland and the requirements to get them. It is not problematic and from my perspective very simple.

For Yobo to get a placement at Everton and get his badges will take him 6 months or thereabouts, in most cases EPL players are given lots of discretion and it's just a matter of fulfilling all righteousness.

So tell me what local coaches know in Nigeria that he Yobo doesn't know and can probably school them on.

I remember years ago when some Nigeria internationals were appalled at the low level and understanding of the coaches. They offered to get a defensive coach from the EPL at thier own expense. Of course the NFF coaches did not like the idea.

Be realistic, there is knowledge by association the higher that association the better the knowledge, understanding and application.

Rare post of quality and true talk from our warri chief. Keep it like this abeg.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 4:57pm On Sep 26, 2020
Icon4s:


Well, I wish you really know what coaching is all about especially at Youth stage.

For those age grade categories you don't need coaches who are "In high demand"(or whatever description you give it).

Scouting and coaching players at cadet level is different from Coaching at Senior level, be it Club or country. Why do you think most if not all our former youth coaches have never done well when they coach the Super Eagles? They are two different ball games.

We have certain coaches that specialize in coaching at Youth level. In Nigeria some of them also coach NPFL teams just to keep going.

Likewise ask Rohr to assemble for us our next U17 team and watch how he will fail woefully.

I know a lot of peeps were hoping to see likes Finidi George and or Joseph Yobo on the list of our new Youth coaches. For those ones, time will tell.

Coaches Bosso and Amao are no new comers to coaching at youth level. Let's give them this chance.
I actually do, but not that close to be involved in their modus operandi. expected they'd have progressed beyond this level and aim higher. afterall, its theur careers. didn't know we now need "specialist coaches".


Yeah they aren't new, but it will be a thing of joy if they were "jacks of other trades"


Best of luck to them tho. Its over 2decades now, thus my stance on this.


I just desire a time our coaches are more ambitious than they currently are. That's all. That being said, i agree with you.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 5:02pm On Sep 26, 2020
wayodude:


Rare post of quality and true talk from our warri chief. Keep it like this abeg.

He is a big fan(probably friend) of Yobo,that's why he made that comment... Nothing more..

Yobo's appointment is not totally right,given his lack of a coaching badge.. and given Komekn's habit of accusing the NFF of corruption everytime,it's hypocritical of him to commend the appointment...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 5:13pm On Sep 26, 2020
Olise with an assist grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 5:19pm On Sep 26, 2020
cool

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 5:32pm On Sep 26, 2020
Matthew Yakubu starts... SKF Sered in Action.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:32pm On Sep 26, 2020
TheSuperNerd:
You lost the bet Forgiveness. You lost it big time. You and Elyte simply lost it on Ujah and Nacho.

Iheanacho performed very well in the EPL in 2019/2020 as a backup striker. He was beyond decent. In all competitions, his stats were very good too.

And Ujah failed to shine in the Bundesliga just as I told you he will.

Both were not average. Infact, None were average. Ujah was below average while Nacho was well above average and had a solid season for a backup striker.

And who is Kayode in this context?? Scoring in Turkey?? What's that please? grin What is Turkey compared to the the EPL? You really are desperate with the way you keep promoting your favorite lads who are still wallowing in the depths of mediocrity. Kayode just returned to Turkey with Sivasspor while lads like Arokodare and Moffi head to better leagues. You are funny.

And Maja scoring in Ligue 1 is commendable but I recall not so long ago, you were berating the credibility of scoring in Ligue 1.

Were you not the one yapping nonsense about Tammy performing in the EPL even insinuating he is better than those doing it in Ligue 1 and insisting Mbappe is yet to perform beyond Ligue 1. Didn't you say Mbappe is yet to show himself in a stronger league? You even stopped short of insinuating that Tammy is better bcoz you know you will be lynched by everyone (everyone except Chelsea fans ofcos) grin. Well, Nacho performed in the EPL in 2019/20 for a backup striker not so? Well, then...case closed. grin

In all, You simply lost the bet on Iheanacho vs Ujah. I said Nacho will have a solid campaign in 2019/2020 and he did. I also said Ujah will not shine in Germany b'cos he is absolutely bang average and would not just improve overnight and Ujah proved me right. He was simply disappointing in Germany. wink


I didn't have any bet with you. I only said the door should be opened to him.

Iheanacho performed very well as a backup striker!?

Was Ujah not a backup striker too?

Why are you so biased like this, huh?

They equally had the same numbers of starts but Iheanachoe had more game time in the EPL than Ujah in the Bundesliga.

Iheanacho scored 5 and had 4 assists EPL while Ujah had 3 goals and 2 assists in the Bundesliga.

How did Iheanacho do better? Bhuhahahaha! grin

Both were BELOW AVERAGE at best. grin

Stop sugarcoating mediocre.

Why are you deceiving yourself like this, huh? If a player scores 15 goals in the Turkish league and another scores 2 goals, who will you prefer? shocked

Is this not mediocrity at best?

Less I forget, were you not the one hyping and applauding the call of Frank Onyeka from the lowly Danish league?

Were you not insinuating the Danish league is better than the Laliga?

Can you look yourself for once and see you are the one wallowing in the depth of mediocre?

Let me educate you, Tammy is not only doing it in the EPL but for Chelsea. Is Chelsea and PSG the same level?

There's no way Tammy is better than Mbappe. Let me reiterate this again.

The point still remains that Maja performed better than Iheanacho this season.

Iheanacho and Ujah were below average in their respective leagues. Story closed.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 5:32pm On Sep 26, 2020
Ajayi starts for westbrom against chelsea
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:40pm On Sep 26, 2020
edi287:

What exactly do you guys mean by "technical"

If we're talking about "touch"(or ball control) - Giroud is the best on there(Yes Giroud's touch is crazy"wink

If we're talking about hold up/link up play - Harry Kane is the best on there.

If we're talking about being skillful - none of them are particularly that skillful but Kane pulls off skill moves when he wants to.

If we're talking about vision - while Nacho might have a better final pass - Kane is all better all-round imo(anyone that wants to argue this should watch this when they have the time https://streamable.com/amp_player/xyz4m?__twitter_impression=true....I hate the guy but it is what it is)

If we're talking about flair/elegance(i.e looking pleasing to the eye) - hmmm i don't rate any of them on that sha grin grin...guess you could say Nacho takes this one.

If you're talking about shooting technique - its between Kane and Nacho.

So its really not straight forward. None of these are really WC technicians.
One thing is for certain though - Nacho's all round game is average at best. I've been saying it and will stick to it.
I didn't watch the guy during his U17 days. I'm basing it what I've seen from his displays at senior level.
His greatest qualities are his clinical finishing and being able to slip that final ball once in a while. His dribbling is average. His hold up play is average. His touch is average. All this is obvious to anyone who watches him extensively and doesn't let nostalgia of his U17 performances blind them.



The bolded answers it all.

This is an extract from the 20 all time most technical players.


When it comes to control, sheer skill, and the potential to mesmerise, it's easy to reel off a few names that spring to mind.

Not those who perhaps rely on other attributes, such as power, to get past their opponents, but those who have been blessed with a gloriously light touch, the ability to contort their bodies beyond recognition, and a vision to see things most players simply aren't aware of going on around them.



All the aforementioned players are not technical in this context.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 5:40pm On Sep 26, 2020
Yawns.

You said Ujah will have a better season than Nacho. grin
You said Ujah will do well in the Bundesliga and I told it won't happen overnight b'cos the lad is bang average and won't do better than what he has shown already.

I told you Nacho will have a good season and a much better season compared to your boy, Ujah and he did. Nacho did so well infact. 10 goals and 4-5 assists in all competitions. 5 goals and 4 assists in the EPL in 960mins of football. Nacho had a good season and was above average.

So you lost the bet. That's the real case closed. Deal with it. grin


forgiveness:


I didn't have any bet with you. I only said the door should be opened to him.

Iheanacho performed very well as a backup striker!?

Was Ujah not a backup striker too?

Why are you so biased like this, huh?

They equally had the same numbers of starts but Iheanachoe had more game time in the EPL than Ujah in the Bundesliga.

Iheanacho scored 5 and had 4 assists EPL while Ujah had 3 goals and 2 assists in the Bundesliga.

How did Iheanacho do better? Bhuhahahaha! grin

Both were BELOW AVERAGE at best. grin

Stop sugarcoating mediocre.

Why are you deceiving yourself like this, huh? If a player scores 15 goals in the Turkish league and another scores 2 goals, who will you prefer? shocked

Is this not mediocrity at best?

Less I forget, were you not the one hyping and applauding the call of Frank Onyeka from the lowly Danish league?

Were you not insinuating the Danish league is better than the Laliga?

Can you look yourself for once and see you are the one wallowing in the depth of mediocre?

Let me educate you, Tammy is not only doing it in the EPL but for Chelsea. Is Chelsea and PSG the same level?

There's no way Tammy is better than Mbappe. Let me reiterate this again.

The point still remains that Maja performed better than Iheanacho this season.

Iheanacho and Ujah were below average in their respective leagues. Story closed.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 5:42pm On Sep 26, 2020
Felix Uduokhai vs Borussia Dortmund. Had a very good game indeed.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:46pm On Sep 26, 2020
TheSuperNerd:
Yawns.

You said Ujah will have a better season than Nacho. grin
You said Ujah will do well in the Bundesliga and I told it won't happen overnight b'cos the lad is bang average and won't do better than what he has shown already.

I told you Nacho will have a good season and a much better season compared to your boy, Ujah and he did. Nacho did so well infact. 10 goals and 4-5 assists in all competitions. 5 goals and 4 assists in the EPL in 960mins of football. Nacho had a good season and was above average.

So you lost the bet. That's the real case closed. Deal with it. grin



Show me. I know you are lying but I will give the benefit of doubt to redeem yourself.

The rest you wrote is what I call..... SUGARCOATING.

You are exceptional in that. cool

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero47: 5:56pm On Sep 26, 2020
Make I no talk grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 6:00pm On Sep 26, 2020
Westbrom doing the Lord's work

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 6:01pm On Sep 26, 2020
Where is Abura when you need him and his long legs?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 6:02pm On Sep 26, 2020
Na...wa...ooo grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 6:03pm On Sep 26, 2020
Subzero47:
Make I no talk grin
grin you are enjoying the technical football to Abi. It's like somebody is trying to break the record for the fastest sack letter in EPL history
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:05pm On Sep 26, 2020
Show you what? Show you what is obviously true? A few here recall the convo naa. But as usual you will run away from a fight b'cos you lost the fight. That is very Cowardly Forgiveness. Be a man and accept your loss.

The only thing exceptional here is how you always deny what you always say and look to twist things. grin Well, man... Sorry, you lost the bet. And it wasn't just you. It was you and Elyte. wink


forgiveness:


Show me. I know you are lying but I will give the benefit of doubt to redeem yourself.

The rest you wrote is what I call..... SUGARCOATING.

You are exceptional in that. cool

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 6:06pm On Sep 26, 2020
chrisooblog:
grin you are enjoying the technical football to Abi. It's like somebody is trying to break the record for the fastest sack letter in EPL history

Highly technical....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 6:07pm On Sep 26, 2020
Rentboys FC cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 6:08pm On Sep 26, 2020
A. Nwakaeme the most under rated player here Scores

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 6:09pm On Sep 26, 2020
Danielnino00:


He is a big fan(probably friend) of Yobo,that's why he made that comment... Nothing more..

Yobo's appointment is not totally right,given his lack of a coaching badge.. and given Komekn's habit of accusing the NFF of corruption everytime,it's hypocritical of him to commend the appointment...
listen it's common sense. For instance just because I have sat alongside someone that flew a plane and also know the system for how to take off and land an aircraft doesn't mean an airline company would hire me without a pilot licence
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 6:13pm On Sep 26, 2020
Tammy kicks the ball all the way to Maiduguri

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:16pm On Sep 26, 2020
Just look at how accurate I was going into the 2019/2020 season talking about the lads' goals return.

I said the chances of Simy scoring 20 is Serie B is higher than an Ujah scoring 15 in Bundesliga.

Fast forward to today and Simy indeed delivered 20 goals. See, talking football is not hard when you are true and not led by bias like some deluded folks in here. grin




TheSuperNerd:
That is why I said Simy is my last last last resort.... And I know we will never have it so bad in the striking dept to rely on a Simy or Ujah.

My list of the Post-Mikel/Post-Iggy era is clear.

Iheanacho, Osimhen, Okereke, Awoniyi, Odey, Onuachu, and Kayode.

No place for Simy but I rate him better than Ujah. Simy have given us a good game in GWG colors unlike Ujah who is all hustle and no product.

And the chances of Simy scoring 20 in Serie B is actually higher than Ujah scoring 15. Just watch and see. Last season, I think Simy bagged 16 or so in Serie B. Ujah had 4 or so in Bundesliga.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 6:16pm On Sep 26, 2020
chrisooblog:
listen it's common sense. For instance just because I have sat alongside someone that flew a plane and also know the system for how to take off and land an aircraft doesn't mean an airline company would hire me without a pilot licence

cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 6:16pm On Sep 26, 2020
Bolowolowo:
Tammy kicks the ball all the way to Maiduguri

In a his very technical way.

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