To my car legends n those with experience of dis cars.
.. Seriously need a small car to help run my biz bt am contemplating to buy 406 or 407 Peugeot car Nigerian used bt d negative reviews on d car especially d electrical aspect is weakning my fabrics ....in other words need advice or coach on d right car to go for ,besides jst a youngman in his middle twenties n don't av much to spend for cars nau.. Thanks

I think you should go for a Peugeot 406 because it is lesser in all regard than a 407.

munezo:
I think you should go for a Peugeot 406 because it is lesser in all regard than a 407.

.....thanks

407 is a useless car, almost equivalent to 607

Among the two Peugeot brands, I wud advice u to go with 406.
Manufacturer standpoint, 406 was a success throughout its production period and it made so much sales, reason attributed to its relative reliability, performance and less errors.
If u recall back in d days, 406 was a Nigerian government vehicle and there was no convoy u won't find it in. It really had its glory days and I got to develop my admiration there.

407 on the other hand was introduced to replace the 406 brand. But it was a woeful failure. Too many glitches, consumer complaints, and the personality was lost. Reasons why it didn't gain acceptance and besides, the competition was tough.

Users of 406 had always praised it for its outstanding AC, remarkable fuel economy, top notch security, engine reliability (esp. the EW10 engine. Its a monster on long journeys), car is surprisingly spacious despite its smallish look.
I also hear that the manual transmission is better to go for bcoz its the least problematic.

406 is dope.a proud owner of one.only prblm is timing belt u need to pay attention to.it must not cut.aside from dat,enjoy the lion on d road

vertueptime:
407 is a useless car, almost equivalent to 608

Kind tell us why you say 407 is a useless car, because I just bought one

datjohn:
Among the two Peugeot brands, I wud advice u to go with 406.
Manufacturer standpoint, 406 was a success throughout its production period and it made so much sales, reason attributed to its relative reliability, performance and less errors.
If u recall back in d days, 406 was a Nigerian government vehicle and there was no convoy u won't find it in. It really had its glory days and I got to develop my admiration there.

407 on the other hand was introduced to replace the 406 brand. But it was a woeful failure. Too many glitches, consumer complaints, and the personality was lost. Reasons why it didn't gain acceptance and besides, the competition was tough.

Users of 406 had always praised it for its outstanding AC, remarkable fuel economy, top notch security, engine reliability (esp. the EW10 engine. Its a monster on long journeys), car is surprisingly spacious despite its smallish look.
I also hear that the manual transmission is better to go for bcoz its the least problematic.

......Thanks man

vertueptime:
407 is a useless car, almost equivalent to 608

....please explain to us y d car is useless

oludollar:
406 is dope.a proud owner of one.only prblm is timing belt u need to pay attention to.it must not cut.aside from dat,enjoy the lion on d road

....Thanks

Op, you said you want a small car, and you mentioned 407. Who tell you say 407 na small car?.

To your post, I have used both cars and I currently use the 407. As you are inexperienced with Peugeot cars, I will advise you to go for the 406 D9 (phase 2) with EW10 engine and manual transmission.

I said the above because if you are not knowledgeable about Peugeot cars, you may abuse the 407 which can cause you expensive repairs. 407 is very sensitive. Both cars parade the same engine type.

For your information, when I am done with my present 407, I will sell it and buy another 407.

1Alex:
Op, you said you want a small car, and you mentioned 407. Who tell you say 407 na small car?.

To your post, I have used both cars and I currently use the 407. As you are inexperienced with Peugeot cars, I will advise you to go for the 406 D9 (phase 2) with EW10 engine and manual transmission.

I said the above because if you are not knowledgeable about Peugeot cars, you may abuse the 407 which can cause you expensive repairs. 407 is very sensitive. Both cars parade the same engine type.

For your information, when I am done with my present 407, I will sell it and buy another 407.

.....Thanks man, To be frank,407 is entering my head bt wot is d best management to be given to avoid abuse or extravagant spending

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datjohn:
Among the two Peugeot brands, I wud advice u to go with 406.
Manufacturer standpoint, 406 was a success throughout its production period and it made so much sales, reason attributed to its relative reliability, performance and less errors.
If u recall back in d days, 406 was a Nigerian government vehicle and there was no convoy u won't find it in. It really had its glory days and I got to develop my admiration there.

407 on the other hand was introduced to replace the 406 brand. But it was a woeful failure. Too many glitches, consumer complaints, and the personality was lost. Reasons why it didn't gain acceptance and besides, the competition was tough.

Users of 406 had always praised it for its outstanding AC, remarkable fuel economy, top notch security, engine reliability (esp. the EW10 engine. Its a monster on long journeys), car is surprisingly spacious despite its smallish look.
I also hear that the manual transmission is better to go for bcoz its the least problematic.

That's a wrong claim to make about Peugeot 407. You are basing your claims on "I heard, I read, they said, it appears, etc".

Peugeot 407 has his positives and negatives, likewise Peugeot 406 does. To condemn the 407 as a woeful failure showed you have no first hand experience yet you know so much about the car.

Peugeot 406 outshines Peugeot 407 in some areas, while 407 outshines 406 in some areas too. It depends on what you want from a car and how comfortable you are with the negatives the car comes with (includingthe do's and don'ts).

Lion King - Monk.

It isn't a reliable car especially the automatic trans, the best or least worst of it is if u get the one that comes with E10 engine manual trans, the car has electrical issues, the shocks are not that strong and durable, it has terrible cornering especially when you are static, the front is usually low ul have to raise the car up a bit to avoid scraping off ur bumper or silencer, the a.c and clock panel display always gets fried by sunlight,
Small thing light don show for dashboard , not fuel friendly as compared to 406, let me stop here

munezo:


Kind tell us why you say 407 is a useless car, because I just bought one

Its his opinion u dnt have to attack him for his views, pls tell us the positive side to 407 asides the good looks and space?

Ikenna351:


That's a wrong claim to make about Peugeot 407. You are basing your claims on "I heard, I read, they said, it appears, etc".

Peugeot 407 has his positives and negatives, likewise Peugeot 406 does. To condemn the 407 as a woeful failure showed you have no first hand experience yet you know so much about the car.

Peugeot 406 outshines Peugeot 407 in some areas, while 407 outshines 406 in some areas too. It depends on what you want from a car and how comfortable you are with the negatives the car comes with.

Lion King - Monk.

Ikenna351:


That's a wrong claim to make about Peugeot 407. You are basing your claims on "I heard, I read, they said, it appears, etc".

Peugeot 407 has his positives and negatives, likewise Peugeot 406 does. To condemn the 407 as a woeful failure showed you have no first hand experience yet you know so much about the car.

Peugeot 406 outshines Peugeot 407 in some areas, while 407 outshines 406 in some areas too. It depends on what you want from a car and how comfortable you are with the negatives the car comes with.

Lion King - Monk.

Bros chill abeg.
I only said "I heard" one time, I don't know where u got d rest from.

Matters of opinions are always tainted with prejudice, agreed, but I maintain what I said.

If u read the context of what I wrote, "407 was a woeful failure to replace 406 as a continuation the way the manufacturer had wanted" I didn't say "407 standalone was a woeful failure" (feel free to go back and read it again in ur spare time, not as hurriedly as u earlier did).

Coming back to what brought us here, we are not here to argue which of the brands is best or worst. We are rather here to suggest to the OP which of the brands is best tailored for him (a starter who wud need a more reliable vehicle than a high maintenance white elephant).

This we do by each commenter sharing his/her opinion, perception, knowledge, experience about each of the vehicle from any angle: User, Ex-User, Mechanic, Enthusiast, Manufacturer, etc.
And if u pay attention, u wud see that I made an excellent submission here.
So, u too can also contribute by dropping whatever pros and cons u know about any of the brands u choose and then afterwards, fwalk off!

many ppu still dont understand him, whenever he posts, just apply filter, take wetin go benefit you & forget the rest.

vertueptime:
Its his opinion u dnt have to attack him for his views, pls tell us the positive side to 407 asides the good looks and space?

407 > 406
Better handling
More gadgets
Finer interior
Good looks

406 > 407
Lighter weight which makes it faster and more fuel economizing considering both cars run same engines.
Suspensions not so complex as in found in 407.
Many ppu confirmed Aircon is 406 is better.


thats all I can remember 4 now

Handling I will very much disagree, the steering of 407 is heavier and the car base is longer and the turning isn't efficient compared to all other Peugeot, the car dsnt corner well compared to 406, iv already said looks , but efficiently it's not better than 406, dnt worry just go to mechanics and do a survey ul knw why the car is crap,if u have a toks enjoy it small before it starts misbehaving ,even your mechanic will abandon u

NobleEngineer:


407 > 406
Better handling
More gadgets
Finer interior
Good looks

406 > 407
Lighter weight which makes it faster and more fuel economizing considering both cars run same engines.
Suspensions not so complex as in found in 407.
Many ppu confirmed Aircon is 406 is better.


thats all I can remember 4 now

vertueptime:

Handling I will very much disagree, the steering of 407 is heavier and the car base is longer and the turning isn't efficient compared to all other Peugeot, the car dsnt corner well compared to 406, iv already said looks , but efficiently it's not better than 406, dnt worry just go to mechanics and do a survey ul knw why the car is crap, if u have a toks enjoy it small before it starts misbehaving ,even your mechanic will abandon u

Man, your bolded got me asking myself... if I can enjoy the car fresh toks, why can't I enjoy it like that forever e.g. You bought a 407 and decided to take it to a quack mechanic, ofcos he will abandon you when he's done wrecking your 407 & putting a big hole in ur pocket... you will call him & he won't answer you ; probably at this point even him has no idea where else to look to fix your peugeot.

and you OP.... you have been warned, look around you, if most of the mechanics around you only specialise in Toyota & Honda, don't buy a Peugeot!!!
cos he's going to troubleshoot your french car the Japanese way, it usually doesn't end well! especially the electrical part!!!

But if you've got competent peugeot specialists and you're ready to maintain your car the oyinbo way, U can then buy your 407 or 406 or whatever...afterall that car was produced some 15years ago and you still bought it in almost mint condition. so it's up to you to extend the mint state or carzeemise ur car.

I'm a proud owner of a 607,406 & 206. I have passion for the brand & I'm paying the good price... so I am going to rate the 406 higher than the 407 based on my personal experience. You don't want to be travelling Nigerian roads with a 407.

NobleEngineer:

Man, your bolded got me asking myself... if I can enjoy the car fresh toks, why can't I enjoy it like that forever e.g. You bought a 407 and decided to take it to a quack mechanic, ofcos he will abandon you when he's done wrecking your 407 & putting a big hole in ur pocket... you will call him & he won't answer you ; probably at this point even him has no idea where else to look to fix your peugeot.

and you OP.... you have been warned, look around you, if most of the mechanics around you only specialise in Toyota & Honda, don't buy a Peugeot!!!
cos he's going to troubleshoot your french car the Japanese way, it usually doesn't end well! especially the electrical part!!!

But if you've got competent peugeot specialists and you're ready to maintain your car the oyinbo way, U can then buy your 407 or 406 or whatever...afterall that car was produced some 15years ago and you still bought it in almost mint condition. so it's up to you to extend the mint state or carzeemise ur car.

I'm a proud owner of a 607,406 & 206. I have passion for the brand & I'm paying the good price... so I am going to rate the 406 higher than the 407 based on my personal experience. You don't want to be travelling Nigerian roads with a 407.

.......Noted... Thanks

Thank you for your response.

I wish I saw your message before I opted to buy a 407. Luckily for me, I got the E10 engine with a manual transmission. I have a 307 so I wanted to buy something better, that's why I went for the 407.

Infact, the 407 I bought has some issues. I just bought it last week. The headlight doesn't go off and it kills the battery, the car display area is blank. My Rewire guy is currently battling with solving it. He blamed my Mechanic for certifying the car good for purchase because I went there with my Mechanic.

Is there a way you can help? Or can you recommend an Expert Rewire to help solve it.

I am really worried.

vertueptime:
It isn't a reliable car especially the automatic trans, the best or least worst of it is if u get the one that comes with E10 engine manual trans, the car has electrical issues, the shocks are not that strong and durable, it has terrible cornering especially when you are static, the front is usually low ul have to raise the car up a bit to avoid scraping off ur bumper or silencer, the a.c and clock panel display always gets fried by sunlight,
Small thing light don show for dashboard , not fuel friendly as compared to 406, let me stop here

munezo:
Thank you for your response.

I wish I saw your message before I opted to buy a 407. Luckily for me, I got the E10 engine with a manual transmission. I have a 307 so I wanted to buy something better, that's why I went for the 407.

Infact, the 407 I bought has some issues. I just bought it last week. The headlight doesn't go off and it kills the battery, the car display area is blank. My Rewire guy is currently battling with solving it. He blamed my Mechanic for certifying the car good for purchase because I went there with my Mechanic.

Is there a way you can help? Or can you recommend an Expert Rewire to help solve it.

I am really worried.

where is your location?
You knew the car had electrical issues and you still bought it? or it dawned on you after the purchase?

whichever way, you're 4ckD man.....don't blame peugeot for that, blame the guy who abused that car and then sold it to you. there's nothing wrong buying an abused 407..
I mean.. I bought my 607 abused but luckily the electricals were intact even the ECU & BSI are still factory. but engine bay was in a mess with lots of wrong mechanic parts installed, missing vacuum hoses, weak engine & wrong manual gear installed... these abuses, you can manage ; considering the ridiculously low price you're pricing the car.

I advise ppu to shun (electrically abused) peugeot cars. Go for Japanese cars or others if you're not a Peugeot enthusiast. seems that brand is not for every Nigerian.

Tell me your location if I can help you with a technician. just be praying the abuse is minimal, even ikenna351 dey fear/avoid severely abused 407.

I am in Lagos and the car is with my Rewire at Ladipo.

I swear, if I knew the car was abused, I wouldn't have bought it. I honestly didn't know but when I got there to buy it, the car did not start because the battery was weak, so they had to start it with another battery. They said the battery went down because the headlight is always on and that is as a result of the faulty headlight control at the steering. That's all they told us, I didn't know that will result to a serious problem.

Maybe if my Rewire was there, he would have read a deeper meaning to that but my Mechanic ignored it.

I will appreciate if you can help. I called my Rewire this morning, he said I can come check the car by tomorrow.

Your assistance will be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much

I current own a 307 and it made me like Peugeot alot, I want to stick to the Peugeot brand.

NobleEngineer:

where is your location?
You knew the car had electrical issues and you still bought it? or it dawned on you after the purchase?

whichever way, you're 4ckD man.....don't blame peugeot for that, blame the guy who abused that car and then sold it to you. there's nothing wrong buying an abused 407..
I mean.. I bought my 607 abused but luckily the electricals were intact even the ECU & BSI are still factory. but engine bay was in a mess with lots of wrong mechanic parts installed, missing vacuum hoses, weak engine & wrong manual gear installed... these abuses, you can manage ; considering the ridiculously low price you're pricing the car.

I advise ppu to shun (electrically abused) peugeot cars. Go for Japanese cars or others if you're not a Peugeot enthusiast. seems that brand is not for every Nigerian.

Tell me your location if I can help you with a technician. just be praying the abuse is minimal, even ikenna351 dey fear/avoid severely abused 407.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSQljulLJ7U


Lion King - Monk.

Meanwhile, my Rewire just called me. He told me that he changed the BSI of the car (my 407) and the headlights issue of constant power on was normalized.

He then told me that the BSI can not be changed alone, that I need to change the brain box, BSI and key together, and that it will cost me a total of N80k.

Is this really true.

Experts in the house, I need your kind assistance please.

munezo:
Meanwhile, my Rewire just called me. He told me that he changed the BSI of the car (my 407) and the headlights issue of constant power on was normalized.

He then told me that the BSI can not be changed alone, that I need to change the brain box, BSI and key together, and that it will cost me a total of N80k.

Is this really true.

Experts in the house, I need your kind assistance please.

They are a kit programmed to work together.. my 607 ECU kits for EW12J4 2.2 manual cost 70k i.e. ECU, KEY AND BSI
don't really know abt your EW10J4 manual

also tell your technician to check the wiring, if it was an abuse that damaged this BSI, same abuse will corrupt this one you're about to buy... tell him to check for abuse.


congrats.

NobleEngineer:

They are a kit programmed to work together.. my 607 ECU kits for EW12J4 2.2 manual cost 70k i.e. ECU, KEY AND BSI
don't really know abt your EW10J4 manual

also tell your technician to check the wiring, if it was an abuse that damaged this BSI, same abuse will corrupt this one you're about to buy... tell him to check for abuse.
congrats.

Ok thank you very much. I will call him right now, infact I will go there tomorrow, so he can check for any wiring abuse and solve it once and for all. At least if I pay N80k and it solves all wiring issues, it will be worth it.

I appreciate your response. Thank you very much.

munezo:
Meanwhile, my Rewire just called me. He told me that he changed the BSI of the car (my 407) and the headlights issue of constant power on was normalized.

He then told me that the BSI can not be changed alone, that I need to change the brain box, BSI and key together, and that it will cost me a total of N80k.

Is this really true.

Experts in the house, I need your kind assistance please.

Secondly, tell him to get Ecu kits meant for EW10J4, sometimes in a bid to cut cost, they will go and install ECU kits of a lesser engine; such a customer will experience loss of power cos his rewire has downgraded the engine Ecu.

NobleEngineer:

Secondly, tell him to get Ecu kits meant for EW10J4, sometimes in a bid to cut cost, they will go and install ECU kits of a lesser engine; such a customer will experience loss of power cos his rewire has downgraded the engine Ecu.

Thank you, I will tell him

munezo:


Ok thank you very much. I will call him right now, infact I will go there tomorrow, so he can check for any wiring abuse and solve it once and for all. At least if I pay N80k and it solves all wiring issues, it will be worth it.

I appreciate your response. Thank you very much.

Since it's in Ladipo u can look for a Toks of the same car, pop the bonnet and trace all the wiring.

Start with the engine fuse box and bsi and replace any fuse bridged with copper wire.

Doing this is going to expose all the problems the previous owner refused to solve but if you can get the electrical system back to factory you'd enjoy the car for years ( I had a 307 12 straight years, spent far less on fuel and mechanics than my corolla counterparts, only gave it out a few months back because someone I gave it to for a few months messed it up in the name of repairing).

BSI kit costs about that I changed mine for 60k though before giving out the car.

When electrical issues are fixed, buy a Diagbox scanner & learn how to use it and NEVER let any rewire bypass anything.

If anything goes bad replace it.