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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 2:43pm On Oct 11, 2020
Lordemperoris100:
Halleluyah.

Apari and Citadel supreme leaders agree on something for the first time in 600 years.

Signs of good things to come

grin

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 2:44pm On Oct 11, 2020
larride:


We are not even discussing this as much as we should be doing tbvh.

The cons has always been that State Police in the hands of our desperate politicians can be fatal but we can’t shy away from the pros which far outweigh the cons.

The first step is to have a new Police Act which will decentralize policing to the state and community level. Let every state and community police themselves. We have seen that this is possible with rrslagos.

Many fears is that won’t the state be owing them salaries has state government are notorious for owing salaries. An underfunded police is dangerous not to talk of one that his salary is not forthcoming.

The structure of state policing is there, our lawmakers are just sleeping on their jobs or they don’t know what to do.

This is a major reason why the police force have become a symbol of chronic corruption

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timay(m): 2:45pm On Oct 11, 2020
Unlimited22:

Boys know how to deal with the regular police units.

Those guys usually don't take bribes of 50k (cheapest) on the spot. They don't drive people to cash machines. They don't accept cryptocurrencies.

I really don't blame you away guys for calling for a reform, ordinarily, this would be sensible


But SARS is a cancer. You don't bargain with cancer, you excise it or it kills the whole body.

See how the Rapid Response Squad is getting praise. Even the police Customer Response Unit.

Those guys have GOT to go.
Exactly my brother

It's not news that police are one of the most corrupt organisations in the world. Even countries with high standard and we'll funded police deal with them.

At least regular police arrest actua petty l offenders and negotiate bribe with them, which by the way is not only a Nigerian thing.

But when you have a certain police unit (SARS) who are meant to prevent violent crimes, abandon their duties and start commiting the crimes themselves, extorting people and killing those who can't pay them. Then it's no longer a regular bribe collecting police , it's now terrorism. They are terrorising people and need to be removed from the system

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 2:45pm On Oct 11, 2020
Unlimited22:

Larride
Just like I told Roland17 yesterday, we have to start from somewhere.

See the uproar this has created internationally.

I'm surprised you're talking like this. SARS has been banned or reformed once in each of the last 5 years, complete with name changes. Why this outcry? Why is it particular to this particular group?

I know the problem is bigger than SARS but we have to start somewhere.
You dey naija. I no suppose dey explain this thing for you like this.

You root out issues once and for all and not papering over the cracks. There are a lot of things that need to change about the Police force. It’s not just about SARS alone, it’s about the whole police force as a whole.

Unless this momentum will be kept, The police reform we will get will be nothing to write home about.

Issues must be addressed as a whole. Those even shooting protesters are not even sars operatives. They are normal police. The one that shot Jimoh in ogbomosho is not a SARS operative.

We wait and see what happens in the following weeks and months.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 2:48pm On Oct 11, 2020
larride:


You root out issues once and for all and not papering over the cracks. There are a lot of things that need to change about the Police force. It’s not just about SARS alone, it’s about the whole police force as a whole.

Unless this momentum will be kept, The police reform we will get will be nothing to write home about.

Issues must be addressed as a whole. Those even shooting protesters are not even sars operatives. They are normal police. The one that shot Jimoh in ogbomosho is not a SARS operative.

We wait and see what happens in the following weeks and months.
Go to Twitter and see what people are saying. We aren't letting up.
And thanks to unemployment and ASUU, we have a lot of time.

Bribery and corruption are normal in Nigeria. We have even come to live with that. People even negotiate with police for bribes. Wrong, but at least you know you won't be shot.

What SARS does is so much more. Torture, extrajudicial killing? No be who dey alive go pay bribe?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 2:48pm On Oct 11, 2020
Na so Dem go from Nepa to PHCN, e come be like say Na Nepa been dey better pass. SARS lipsrsealed

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 2:48pm On Oct 11, 2020
timay:

Exactly my brother

It's not news that police are one of the most corrupt organisations in the world. Even countries with high standard and we'll funded police deal with them.

At least regular police arrest actua petty l offenders and negotiate bribe with them, which by the way is not only a Nigerian thing.

But when you have a certain police unit (SARS) who are meant to prevent violent crimes, abandon their duties and start commiting the crimes themselves, extorting people and killing those who can't pay them. Then it's no longer a regular bribe collecting police , it's now terrorism. They are terrorising people and need to be removed from the system

But they were not removed from the system. Just redeployed from one unit to the other.

The system itself is corrupt, it is the system that give these rogue SARS the boldness to do the way they like. As long as this system remains, this extortion and harassment will continue in another form.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by 2emotional(m): 2:50pm On Oct 11, 2020
BlueMann:


The guy's story is so painful. Bale dey learn work for where e dey.
From what I read, the last time he played for Chelsea was three years ago, and it's been four years since he last played back to back matches embarassed

Doctors told him his career was over, but he has refused to give up. Thankfully he has age on his side; he's 23.
As such young age.... Chai!!!!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 2:51pm On Oct 11, 2020
The problem with change in Nigeria is it never gets better. We can celebrate change only to see the worst outcome possible.

mention one thing that changed for the better. Calm down with d celebrations
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 2:51pm On Oct 11, 2020
Unlimited22:

Go to Twitter and see what people are saying. We aren't letting up.
And thanks to unemployment and ASUU, we have a lot of time.

Bribery and corruption are normal in Nigeria. We have even come to live with that. People even negotiate with police for bribes. Wrong, but at least you know you won't be shot.

What SARS does is so much more. Torture, extrajudicial killing? No be who dey alive go pay bribe?

I am not talking about just Bribery and corruption alone. I’m talking about the whole Police system.

The Police system we run in the country is obsolete. As long as this system remains, whatever they are saying is papering over the crack.

Go and read the Police Act and see the kind unambiguous powers the act gives Police. It’s a system clean up that is needed.

SARS is a reflection of the PoliceNg as a whole.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timay(m): 2:57pm On Oct 11, 2020
larride:


But they were not removed from the system. Just redeployed from one unit to the other.

The system itself is corrupt, it is the system that give these rogue SARS the boldness to do the way they like. As long as this system remains, this extortion and harassment will continue in another form.

So in your infinite wisdom, we shouldn't protest EndSars because the system is corrupt.

There's a Yoruba adage that says "If two trees fall on top each other, we usually remove the tree at the top before removing that at bottom"

SARS is the one currently affecting us, and it is the one at the top, we move SARS first before we move to the one at the top , which is POLICE REFORMS

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 2:58pm On Oct 11, 2020
BlueAngel444:
The problem with change in Nigeria is it never gets better. We can celebrate change only to see the worst outcome possible.

mention one thing that changed for the better. Calm down with d celebrations
We are not celebrating anything. We are moving onto the next.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:58pm On Oct 11, 2020
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamoyindamola(m): 3:01pm On Oct 11, 2020
raumdeuter:
Check this link on homepage

https://www.nairaland.com/6171347/throwback-1986-end-police-brutality
I was about bringing it here grin grin
E Dan tey yansh they for back 1986 chai
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 3:06pm On Oct 11, 2020
timay:


So in your infinite wisdom, we shouldn't protest EndSars because the system is corrupt.

There's a Yoruba adage that says "If two trees fall on top each other, we usually remove the tree at the top before removing that at bottom"

SARS is the one currently affecting us, and it is the one at the top, we move SARS first before we move to the one at the top , which is POLICE REFORMS


I’m not responsible for the way you understand my post.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 3:14pm On Oct 11, 2020
Now that SARS has ended, I am sure that the former SARS officers will all have a change of heart, and choose to be upstanding law-abiding upholders of the law in their new deployments.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by 2emotional(m): 3:15pm On Oct 11, 2020
Unlimited22:

Lol. Ask people travelling in the south south and south east what we see on the roads

I travelled from Enugu to Aba yesterday, God the check point was up to 30. Soldiers,neighborhood watch,police and many others. I stayed in the north for many years and it wasn't like that.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 3:17pm On Oct 11, 2020
nihilistjnr:
Mow that SARS has ended, I am sure that the former SARS officers will all have a change of heart, and choose to be upstanding law-abiding upholders of the law in their new deployments.

They will become law abiding Policemen. grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 3:19pm On Oct 11, 2020
raumdeuter:
Check this link on homepage

https://www.nairaland.com/6171347/throwback-1986-end-police-brutality

Bro, I'm just casting my mind back to back-in-the-day, and all my memories of Area G boys in black.

Maybe people forgot, maybe they never knew sha?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 3:20pm On Oct 11, 2020
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:23pm On Oct 11, 2020
nihilistjnr:


Bro, I'm just casting my mind back to back-in-the-day, and all my memories of Area G boys in black.

Maybe people forgot, maybe they never knew sha?

Shebi Area G na him dey beside High court in Ikeja, close to Ikeja High School around under bridge.

Once you don see Fedeco bus with 2 popo inside plus driver. Dem dey look for the next drinking joint to pack boys be that
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 3:25pm On Oct 11, 2020
larride:
Unlimited22

Read this:

https://twitter.com/drcomole/status/1315237258794995713?s=21
Maybe you've not understood me.

Let me give you this analogy. When a patient comes to the clinic with severe chronic pain, we give the patient painkillers while simultaneously tackling the disease. We know pain is not a disease. It is caused by something

However, pain is debilitating. Crippling. Sometimes, fatal.
We stop the pain, while attacking the cause.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 3:28pm On Oct 11, 2020
Larride. I didn't even see the second attached screenshot before replying you above.

The first one was what I went looking for.

When you're in pain, you eliminate the pain while attacking its source.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 3:29pm On Oct 11, 2020
No matter how they disband this people if the arms are not taken away from them,we will just keep running around the same circle .
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 3:34pm On Oct 11, 2020
popizaino:
No matter how they disband this people if the arms are not taken away from them,we will just keep running around the same circle .
Yes. But this is a necessary first step. It means that we have a voice.

No radio station or TV station in Nigeria reported this thing, yet the whole world heard it. Guess who controls the media in Nigeria.

Imagine if they'd passed the social media bill.

This is just step 1. Police brutality is a culture but SARS enamores it to extremely excruciating levels. They need to go first

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 3:35pm On Oct 11, 2020
raumdeuter:


Shebi Area G na him dey beside High court in Ikeja, close to Ikeja High School around under bridge.

Once you don see Fedeco bus with 2 popo inside plus driver. Dem dey look for the next drinking joint to pack boys be that

Nah, Area G na Ogba, Ijaiye, Abule-egba, Pen-Cina side.

Them dey give them extortion target from Ogba HQ, to the point where Ogba AK and Abule-egba AK don fight for my zones before cheesy

Na Danfo dem dey use do raiding van for that side

If you're from Oko-Oba area and at least 25-30 years old, you should remember all the checkpoints from where coldstone now is, to social club junction, to near chapters, to Fagbs Junction, to pen cinema to your right, to just before abbatoir.

If you trace these points on a map, it's a rough circle maybe 30 miles wide

If you're coming back from Ikeja, you face one half of the extortion ring, and when you're going that way, the other side get a piece
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 3:35pm On Oct 11, 2020
airmark:


I still don't think it is safe to have their families in the same community.
Neither is it safe for the rest of the community. They should do something about it
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 3:38pm On Oct 11, 2020
nihilistjnr:


Nah, Area G na Ogba, Ijaiye, Abule-egba, Pen-Cina side.

Them dey give them extortion target from Ogba HQ, to the point where Ogba AK and Abule-egba AK don fight for my zones before cheesy

Na Danfo dem dey use do raiding van for that side

If you're from Oko-Oba area and at least 25-30 years old, you should remember all the checkpoints from where coldstone now is, to social club junction, to near chapters, to Fagbs Junction, to pen cinema to your right, to just before abbatoir.

If you trace these points on a map, it's a rough circle maybe 30 miles wide

If you're coming back from Ikeja, you face one half of the extortion ring, and when you're going that way, the other side get a piece


Those ones wey hold me when I Dey school for Omole. To go Ogba then Na war. Ogba don calm down now sha. Even those Abule Egba, Fagba n co don calm down now.

RRS has replaced most of the patrolling unit.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ToyinDipo(m): 3:38pm On Oct 11, 2020
SARS currently fading away like Djoker in the hands of Nadal.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 3:40pm On Oct 11, 2020
Unlimited22:

Maybe you've not understood me.

Let me give you this analogy. When a patient comes to the clinic with severe chronic pain, we give the patient painkillers while simultaneously tackling the disease. We know pain is not a disease. It is caused by something

However, pain is debilitating. Crippling. Sometimes, fatal.
We stop the pain, while attacking the cause.

Yeah, I understand you. Let’s see the reforms they will undertake in the following days and weeks.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 3:42pm On Oct 11, 2020
Unlimited22:
Larride. I didn't even see the second attached screenshot before replying you above.

The first one was what I went looking for.

When you're in pain, you eliminate the pain while attacking its source.

Bro, Ibime said it earlier, these people pay money just to even join the force

And their salaries are measly, assuming they even get paid on time or at all.

Police in Nigeria is a Ponzi scheme, it's like GNLD, Forever Living, or any other MLM.

The guys are the bottom are extorting funds to kick upstairs.

The level of effort you need to fix this kind of problem is.....well, it can't be done. Not in this lifetime at least.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 3:46pm On Oct 11, 2020
larride:


Those ones wey hold me when I Dey school for Omole. To go Ogba then Na war. Ogba don calm down now sha. Even those Abule Egba, Fagba n co don calm down now.

RRS has replaced most of the patrolling unit.

Ok, so maybe those are the new SARS, because when I read some of the things SARS are being accused of now, it's no different to what we experienced 15-20 years ago under the normal black-clad legal armed robbers.

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