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Re: Tutelage By The Truth by Nobody: 10:18pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
ShunTheWorld: I too I'm grateful to our Father (the Creator of all) and our King, for the opportunity to shout out loud, on the roof tops all He's spoken to me in the ear! I'm an unworthy servant. I'm only doing what is my duty to do! ![]() Yes sister, we each enter His field at different hours--some at the first, other 4th, others 11th hour, but we all receive the same reward. Mat 20:1-16 Lol I'm not religious--I don't take instructions from man--certainly not hypocritical Caucasians. So yeah, I've no qualms saying "ass" or any of the other "sacrilegious" words christianity/society compels one to abstain from. That said, I TRY not to make declaratory statements, even when angry, because I know theres power in pronouncements. Unless of course it's aabsolutely necessary. Please feel free to send a link to anyone you think might benefit from these discussions! He who has an ear will hear, he who doesn't won't. Dan 12:10b ![]() |
Re: Tutelage By The Truth by Nobody: 10:51pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
ShunTheWorld: Please no"sir". We're all brethren. I'm rather your servant! "But you do not be called 'Rabbi', for one is your Teacher, the Annoited, and you are all brothers." Mat 23:8 |
Re: Tutelage By The Truth by Nobody: 11:20pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
ShunTheWorld: Oh, no biggie! That's what came to mind the moment I read the bolded: I'm not sure how that matters but maybe if the post was about a "celebrity" then it may have allowed it." Perhaps its not peculiar to Nigerians, but that's whata typical Southern Nigerian does-- defend their view by reference! ![]() Again, wasnt negative connotation. Plus, you did say you're of Jamaican ancestry, right? I've also learnt that theres a place in Jamaica called "Bekuta". In all probability, the folks who settled the town Bekuta in Jamaica might be from the town Abeokuta, here in Nigeria. Just saying... :-) What language do Jamaicans speak, anyway. You people seem to be the only Carribean nation that has a language. Am I right? |
Re: Tutelage By The Truth by Nobody: 2:06am On Sep 30, 2020 |
ShunTheWorld:You were ardent for your Creator! He who we're fighting doesn't joke around, and therefore needs to be met with fury. Our adversary's characteristics are described in Job 40:15 to Job 41:34. Job 41:3 says: "would he keep on pleading with you? WOULD HE SPEAK SOFTLY TO YOU?" If he doesn't mess around, why should you? You'd notice the tone of my response to the ships of tarshish doctrine was furious. I don't mess around with my Creator, neither should you. Anyone who tries to take me away from Him/insult Him or do anything His spirit in me detects as divergent from Him/displeasing to Him, I pounce on furiously! That's being ardent! We have to be. Again, our adversary isnt docile. Gotta match and even surpass his fury! "The kingdom of heaven suffers violence, the violent take it. Now, I mean this spiritually. Not physically hitting someone. Even our King says: "...be ardent and repent" Rev 3:19b He also says: "I hold against you THAT YOU ALLOW that woman Jezebel...to teach and lead My servants astray..." Rev 2:20 Now, I don't know what exact words/expression(s) you used, but I do not condemn the spirit of what you expressed. Analogy time! Lol Story 1: I recently watched the show Britannia. Rome invaades the Britannia. The Canti are one of the tribes in Britannia. The Canti live in a mountainous fort. Rome sends an envoy to parlay. Canti king says: "Fu ck off back to Rome...now it's a war." Given the scene set above, I don't know any other word/expression the Canti king could have used to express his intention--war. Story 2: "Fu ck off became part of my vocab unconciously after the show, and when a sibling of mine offended me compoundedly, there it was! Now, that expression is not one I'd like to use often, most definitely not at a subling.But the point is, when I used it, I technically wasn't talking to my sibling...I was rebuking the spirit that was huranging me! My point is, senarios matter. How else would christian hypocrites have the Canti king phrase: "I choose war"? Again, our adversary would not speak softly to you! Had to rebuke him sternly! That said, I thankful that I wasnt stirred in the direction of making a declaration(that would be directed at my sibling and dangerous: mat 5:22b--"you fool!" is a declaration. as opposed to the command, fu ck off) Compare our King's language in mat 23:17-19: "fools and blind" is what he used! In luke 13:31-32, He used "that fox" in addressing someone. He wasn't afraid of anyone. Definitely not afraid to rebuke anyone too: "Woe to you...", "mindless ones!" luke 11:40-46. Our King was definitely not a christian! You cannot be docile! Christianity promotes being docile directly or indirectly. Thats because its easy to control one who's docile. The new being that rules in the to come CANNOT be docile! Being lukewarm is equally unacceptable.Rev 3:15-16:" I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I would that you were hot or cold. So because you are lukewarm... I will VOMIT YOU OUT OF MY MOUTH."; Matter of fact I believe being hot is preferred: Rev 3:26-27 "He who overcomes, and guards My works until the end, to him I shall give authority over the nations, and he shall shepherd them WITH THE ROD OF AN IRON, as a potter's vessels shall be broken in pieces, as I also received of My Father" A docile person cannot shepherd nations with an iron rod! It is our king that had the Spirit of Truth, not some Caucasian greko-roman insert/trojan horse called paul! That character insert paul that says know ye not that in our culture it is shameful for men to keep long hair is completely different from the person made and kept a nazarite vow in Acts or so. Only a caucasian trojan horse will say it is nor terribly bad to eat food offered to idols. What an abomibation! I generally dont read those letters because I believe theyre greko-roman inserts! I believe theyre as real as the statute(idol) of jupiter they renamed saint peter!!! Take for instance 1peter 4:3 "For we have spent enough of our past lifetime in doing the desire of the gentiles, having walked in indecencies of lusts, drunkenness, ORGIES, WILD PARTIES AND ABOMINABLE IDOLATRIES." Who wrote that stuff?! Of course christianity/the bible says its "peter". But when would peter the fisherman(before he met our King) have engaged in orgies or wild parties?! Perhaps while he walked with our King?! Or was it after he'd been filled with the Spirit of Truth?! When?! We all know orgies are culturally greko-roman! So Peter the fisherman/apprentice of the Annoited/Spirit filled/leader of the apprentices of the Annoited could not have written that! Back to what I said earlier, they're designed to make you docile--controllable. You cannot have the Spirit of Truth and be docile. I've proved this with Scripts that show our King(our Example) was not afraid to rebuke people as appropriate.. ...even the language He used paints a different picture to christianity |
Re: Tutelage By The Truth by Nobody: 9:04am On Sep 30, 2020 |
Yes brother, there are a lot of habits adopted here under Esau's rulership, esp within the "religious" settings. I was told here in the UK to address a man as Sir & woman as Miss. This needs to be rid off - it's a new day now...I'm glad for the reminder. akli09: Yes, this IS the way. |
Re: Tutelage By The Truth by Nobody: 10:20am On Sep 30, 2020 |
Oh no negative suggestions entered my mind, I took it as a compliment & was curious to know why you said that. I see...Southern Nigerians defending their view by reference...this made me laugh. This is typical of Jamaican's too. They term it as a "come back" defence. Bekuta & Abeokuta there is a high possibility there is a link. You've observed correctly about the language, it's called Patois. Cho deh - Look at that Oonu or Unu - You / All of you De deh - Is there Chichi - Sodomite. I think some words are similar with Western Africa. I have met a few from different tribes in West Africa Igbo, Hausa... I picked up 2 words Oyinbo ( Caucasians) & spelling could be wrong but it sounds like Na wa o. They always never believe my ancestry is from Jamaica, they either say I'm not loud, I don't look, nor behave, like Jamaicans ![]() akli09: |
Re: Tutelage By The Truth by Nobody: 7:09pm On Sep 30, 2020 |
ShunTheWorld: Yeah its funny how folks separated by an ocean come up with similar words and think alike, yet some stu pid caucasians will say: youre African, youre not. :/ BTW, how come you Jamaicans grew differently than say African Americans or even Bahemians, your neighbors! Theyre more western than you, in my opinion. I met some Bahemians in uni, youve gotta pardon me, but they were to arrogant for me! Couldnt stand it. Kenyans too. I suppose its proximity to caucasians? In the case of kenyans--the British, and the bahemians, Americans? |
Re: Tutelage By The Truth by Nobody: 3:15am On Oct 01, 2020 |
ShunTheWorld: At bolded: What a wierd way to intro a language to a foreigner! You're not her, are ya?! |
Re: Tutelage By The Truth by Nobody: 7:32am On Oct 01, 2020 |
You've lost me there... 'You're not her, are ya'? Who are you speaking of? Sorry about that, I chose that word because it is used widely with different meanings within the Igbo language & I wanted to show the similarities. In Igbo one e.g is Chi means angel, in Jamaica it has another meaning. Chichi akli09: |
Re: Tutelage By The Truth by Nobody: 11:05am On Oct 01, 2020 |
Thank you for sharing your experience with the insecurities. When you said about combining wayfaring with birth pains might take a toll on you, it sparked my imagination. You write so well that I can see a picture in my mind. In your other reply when you mentioned you were at University (which I've never been) it didn't surprise me with your style of grammar, esp after reading the analogy on Rome invades Britannia, which did help to put me straight on the softness & cannot be docile when it comes to the enemy. Very wise of you spotting his trick when he's trying to rattle you & i'm pleased hearing about the build. There is a post that I cannot find & wanted to go over it again, where you asked - Why do you think the most High made Esau Pink/red/ incomplete and Jacob complete? I'm not sure if I've got the question right...then you mentioned something about their punishment & it is to destroy the fallen angel seed from the earth. Anyway, I wanted to ask - Are ALL Caucasians the enemy including the Chinese Arabs Indians? akli09: |
Re: Tutelage By The Truth by Nobody: 7:30pm On Oct 01, 2020 |
ShunTheWorld: I thought it wasnt you speaking...thought you acct was hacked. Pardon my paranoid self. I've experienced it id why I'm this touchy. Plus, remember we were attacked out of the blue before coming here? Still think She's restores was the trojan horse! We're at war so paranoia is allowed! lol Anyway, you seem to know a bit of the igbo language. How come? |
Re: Tutelage By The Truth by Nobody: 8:51pm On Oct 01, 2020 |
ShunTheWorld: If the writings that manifest as a result of my typing(yes, thats the only credit due to me--typing), make one marvel or leaves one in awe or brings the perfect imagination, therein lies the proof that they aint mine--or any flesh's! It most certainly is NOT because I went to uni. Lots of folks have been through the university system, yet can't put together a grammatically correct sentence. YOU are proof that the uni system doesnt get credit on this one. You said you've never been to uni, yet you contruct perfect grammar sentences! There! All of these words that I have posted till date , aren't mine. "...for it is not you who speaks, but the Spirit of your Father speaking in you." Mat 10:20. Even I marvel after reading what I've typed! The credit doesn't go to me, most definitely NOT any uni sys. Please, any and all acolades MUST be directed at the source of the writings: our Father, the Creator of all, and His Son, His Annoited, through His Spirit! I think the post you're looking for is on the previous page(page 1) |
Re: Tutelage By The Truth by Nobody: 8:54pm On Oct 01, 2020 |
ShunTheWorld: Why are you concerned for these folks? ...I'll answer this Q comprehensively with Scripts and whatno when I ans the remaing two Qs. ![]() |
Re: Tutelage By The Truth by Nobody: 9:25am On Oct 02, 2020 |
I asked this Q/ as part of what you had wrote about Esau in the previous post, so it provoked my Q/ about him & the other nations. Other than that, my concern is with the coming Kingdom. This brings up memories as a child where we lived here - my parents warned us not to speak to certain types people, in a way warning of us of who is who. o concerned with these akli09: |
Re: Tutelage By The Truth by Nobody: 9:51am On Oct 02, 2020 |
Oh, I see... I agree, I think she was the trojan horse too. ![]() ![]() I'm not that familiar with Igbo, just the similarities in the words & I also watch comedy clips by Mark Angel & his crew, who are Igbo, so I hear a few words. I have a sister in the U.S who adores the culture & I can see why. akli09: |
Re: Tutelage By The Truth by Nobody: 10:04am On Oct 02, 2020 |
Yes brother, I know who is behind your typing. From the time I read what was said on the Redirecting channel, an urgency stirred in me, so I moved in haste. I was surprised why others did not flock towards it, but then, He who has an ear.. akli09: |
Re: Tutelage By The Truth by Nobody: 4:34pm On Oct 02, 2020 |
RE: Are ALL Caucasians the enemy including the Chinese Arabs Indians? You mentioned that youre curious about what the coming reign will be like, concerning nations. The following Scripts paint the pic: 1) "Because the Creator has compassion on "Jacob", and shall again choose "Israel", and give them rest in their own land. And strangers shall join them, and they shall cling to the house of 'Jacob'. And peoples shal take them and bring them to their own place. And the house of 'Israel' shall possess them for servants and female servants in the land of the Creator. And they shall make captives of their captors, and rule over their oppressors." Isa 14:1-2 All three of the folks you mentioned (Chinese Arabs Indians)rule/oppress us right now. I hope you dont need me to give examples. If you do, though, please let me know and I will. 2) But they shall fly down upon the shoulders of the Philistines towards the west : togther they plunder the people of the east, their hand strerching forth on Edom, and Moab, and the children of Ammon shall be subject to them. The people of the East are described in Judges 6:5; Judges 8:26. Note: Camels and crescent ornaments. These point to who they are today--Arabs/indian-type people. In my best estimate, Esau's children are all the Indian-type people: red indians(aztec and co), sub continental indians, even pacifican indians, and the arabs of course. I believe the Moabites and Ammonites are the Mayans(Mongoloid asian--japanese, koreans, chinese etc) as well as the children of Ammon(indonesians, thai, philipino etc). That said, Esau's seed is polluted with canaanite seed(Gen 26:34-35). The canaanites are of the seed of the fallen angel(post flood). That Esau's seed is mixed with fallen angel seed was exactly my point when I asked why do you think the Creator created Esau red/pink/brutish/incomplete. With these characteristics mixing with the seed of the angels is more likely, cause of similarities. Mixing and similar behaviorial attributes will definitely lead them to band together and be destroyed together. Thats why i called it setting precedence for their destruction--Esau being created as he was. Also note how aztec indians, continental indians and arabs have mixed their seeds with the Chaldeans(fallen agel seed:white folks)? Arabs were never as pale as they are today. The same applies to northern indians, and han chinese. Also note: the seed of the white folks(people who've been ruling the earth since we were kicked outta our land) is not the seed of man. Proof: "...and they are mixing their seed with the seed of men, but they are not clinging to each other even as iron doesnt mix with clay" Dan 2:43 To sum up, only 3 nations of the earth will make it to the coming reign. Note I said nations, not countries. All other nations are destroyes as a people but will have remnants that dress our vines and whatnot, like isa 14:1-2 and 11:14 describe. The nations that survive as a people are: Egypt, Ashshur(Assyria) and Israel sa 19:23-25 Babel, on the other hand has no remnant! Isa 13:19; 14:21-22 (emphasis 14:22b "... i shall cut off from babel the name and remnant, and off-spring and descendant, declares the Creator" Note: the Eygpt of today isnt that of the Scripts. The folks there are arabs. Egypt in the Bible is a descendant of Ham(polluted seed produced giants n whatnot) In my best estimate, theyre, today: the Tutsi/Fulani/Amharic Ethiopian/Eritrean/probably the Masai/ some ugandans too(chuwezi--so called demigods) see pics bellow
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Re: Tutelage By The Truth by Nobody: 11:13pm On Oct 02, 2020 |
You once stated: " I wish a lot of us who's hopes are still in Isiah 11:11 could know this, because many of us are waiting on this ship brother." So have you tried to invite anyone of them to discuss it? |
Re: Tutelage By The Truth by Nobody: 10:40am On Oct 08, 2020 |
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Re: Tutelage By The Truth by Nobody: 11:48am On Oct 08, 2020 |
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Re: Tutelage By The Truth by Nobody: 10:59am On Oct 10, 2020 |
I give thanks to our most High, our King & his spirit for the thorough & remarkable answer given to me. Brother well done for the typing, I had to read it to my son...well, we read it together & i'll get to his Q/ at the end. I'm aware how the Indians, Chinese & Arabs are oppressing us...the history goes way back from religion to enslavement to this present day & If I enter into their shops, that's oppression! Right, the Arabs Indians etc were not as pale as they are today so there had to have been some mixing of Esau's seed. I've seen pictures of how they all looked before today. I'm glad for this teaching - So the people in Egypt today are the Arabs, and the Egyptians are Ham's polluted seed located in Ethiopia, Tut's, Fulani etc... I did not know this! My goodness brother, we are surrounded by aliens because when I was a teenager, whenever an aeroplane flew by, I wondered how man, whom have a regular mind & knowledge like myself could create this machine & make it fly in the air. This explains it. "the seed of the white folks(people who've been ruling the earth since we were kicked outta our land) IS NOT THE SEED OF MAN" . Proof: "...and they are mixing their seed with the seed of men, but they are not clinging to each other even as iron doesnt mix with clay" Dan 2:43 We were not aware back then but; Personally I think all of our people should teach their children this at an early age. Reading the scriptures it appears everyone knew who was who, but today we are reduced to being called "black" & we don't know who we are, nor who the other nations are. To me, this is something very basic in life. It's as vital as knowing who your parents are. I have spoken to a few (repatriate back to Africa ancestor speaking ) men recently ![]() ![]() The photo's were very useful, we took a good look at them. And these are whom the other nations are trying to have us believe we are descendants? No possible way! Apart from Israel, I never knew this - The nations that survive as a people are: Egypt, Ashshur(Assyria) and Israel sa 19:23-25 Babel, on the other hand has no remnant! Q/ My son made a remark about post flood - that how could the seed of the fallen angel survive post flood if only righteous Noah & his family survived. I also had this question a few years ago & needed a bit more detailed & I found it in the book of Jubilees where Noah prayed on behalf of his son's who were being lead astray by the unclean demons to destroy them (post flood) 4 ] 4. But do Thou bless me and my sons, that we may increase Page 79 and multiply and replenish the earth. 5. And Thou knowest how Thy Watchers, the fathers of these spirits, acted in my day: and as for these spirits which are living, imprison them and hold them fast in the place of condemnation, and let them not bring destruction on the sons of thy servant, my God; for these are malignant, and created in order to destroy. p. 79- 81 What say Ye? akli09: |
Re: Tutelage By The Truth by Nobody: 5:12am On Oct 11, 2020 |
ShunTheWorld: Oh I totally agree with the quote you took from the book of Jubilees. It sheds some light on the subject. The key to understanding the post flood giants is found in the book of enoch. First off, there are two types of giants after the flood: 1)Giant(s) approved from above(from the Creator Himself). To this point I cite: Enoch 106.17: "And they will beget giants on the Earth, not of spirit, but of flesh, and there will be great wrath upon the earth, and the Earth will be cleansed of all corruption." This is the concept I was trying to state with Esau. See, the Creator introduced His own giants on the earth in order to consume the others(because He knew there'd others by the spirits of the slain giants) I believe Nimrod is an example of a post flood giant (called mighty man) that was not produced by the fallen spirit, although he is a descendant of Ham--Cush in his case, not Canaan, the cursed one! I believe he was an approved from the Creator. 2) As you've quoted the book of Jubilees, the spirit of the slain giants remained on the earth. Matter of fact, the Book of Enoch says: 15.8 "And now the giants who were born FROM THE BODY AND FLESH will be called Evil spirits on the Earth, and on the Earth will be their dwelling" 15.10 " And the dwelling of the spirits of Heaven is Heaven, but the dwelling of the spirits of the Earth, WHO WERE CREATED ON THE EARTH, is earth" My point is, they were not able to ascend to heaven like men do when the die, because they weren't born from above! Now, given their nature as explained in the quote you made/ in Enoch 15.11ffl, it is safe to say once they died in the flood, and their spirits came out if their bodies, they would have possess another person and restarted the cycle. This is why I'd earlier stated that the Creator knew this could happen and prepared for this by introducing His own giants for eventual destruction. Examples of giants by the fallen spirits post flood would be the children of Anaq, canaanites etc (descendants of Ham)which the Creator used our people to take out when they possessed the land. Also note worthy is, even as far into the future as David, they were still slaying them! Goliath is one(philistine--canaanite--Ham's descendant), but David ones took a MOABITE city and decided who'd live or not by measuring their height(to purge that seed)! The Moabites are not children of Ham! Theyre lots children--obviously Shem descendants. This shows how crafty these things can be and how they reproduced post flood. But the majority of them after the flood were Ham's seed--Canaanites--philistines, Egyptian etc Clearly, Noah cursed canaan not because he saw his mere unclothedness. "Saw his unclothedness" must be an idiom for sodomy because lev 18:6-19 proves that to"uncover unclothedness" is euphemism for intercourse! So i believe Canaan must have been possessed by the spirits of the fallen giants and help them reproduce post flood because the majority of the giants after the flood were from him! Our people who took out the post flood giants by fallen ones spirits, can be said to be "giants" too. Though, not tall, and abnormal like those of the fallen spirits, they were called mighty men. I know your subject is on the giants by the spirits, but I thought I'd chip in that fact. The Book of Jasher proves this, though--it was prophesied that the descendants of Abram will destroy the "Kings of the Earth". The "Kings of the Earth" from Enoch's preriod till after the flood were pretty much giants/deities. This is described in the book of Jasher. So yeah, post flood giants: 1) From above: Nimrod/our mighty men who destroyed the post flood fallen spirits giants 2) Giants from the spirits of the fallen ones-- canaanites, philistines, amorites, jebusites etc some moabites too. |
Re: Tutelage By The Truth by Nobody: 5:38am On Oct 11, 2020 |
To your point about our people realizing who these people are now.... There's a reason caucasians, and most recently the chinese have been pushing this idea: "we're one" and promoting interracial coupling BS. It is because of, as I stated earlier, dan 2:43 and: "And now, do not give your daughters as wives for their sons. And do not take their daughters to your sons. And DO NOT SEEK THEIR PEACE OR WEALTH EVER,SO THAT YOU ARE STRONG, and shall eat the good of the land and leave it as an inheritance to your children forever." Ezra 9:12 Our adversaries know this. They know this is how to WEAKEN us. It's no new strategy. Ballam taught it to the people of midyan/moab/ammon. This Ballam doctrine(as the book of Rev calls it) was put to good use against our forefathers when they were in the wilderness! It cost us 24,000 people on that occasion! The chinese and caucasians aren't stupid, so one should ask: if these people who hate me are pushing marriage, there's gotta be a reason! |
Re: Tutelage By The Truth by Nobody: 3:38pm On Oct 11, 2020 |
I have just read the excellent response re: Giants (post flood) I'm going to show it to my son and reply to you. In the meantime,..I had forgotten to ask you a quick Q/ which is a bit like the belief in the ships of Tarshish that needs sound doctrine to clear my head from the brain wash. It is to do with that common "churchanity" scripture John 3:16...where it say's the world.... Would that mean the world out of Israel? Because whenever I have to give an answer, I will know what to say. You see, I have 2 brothers living in Sweden who is married to Swedish woman who they believe can be saved through the John 3:16 scripture. I don't have a gooey feeling for every nation because I don't really care for them. I know there is the wheat & the tares which means the children of the wicked are among us. Or, does the answer for that scripture lay with - the nations that survive as a people are: Israel, Egypt & Assyria? This will wrap it up once & for all. akli09: |
Re: Tutelage By The Truth by Nobody: 4:10pm On Oct 11, 2020 |
Yes the "we are one" & "We all bleed the same"! And now during the plandemic there are posters saying "we're all in this together"! 1 Esdras 8: 69 1 Esdras 8:69 “The nation of Israel, the princes, the priests and Levites, have not put away from them the strange people of the land, nor the pollutions of the Gentiles to wit, of the Canaanites, Hittites, Pheresites, Jebusites, and the Moabites, Egyptians, and Edomites. ”And as soon as I had heard these things, I rent my clothes, and the holy garment, and pulled off the hair from off my head and beard, and sat me down sad and very heavy. 93Let us make an oath to the Lord, that we will put away all our wives, which we have taken of the heathen, with their children, akli09: |
Re: Tutelage By The Truth by Nobody: 7:12am On Oct 12, 2020 |
ShunTheWorld: The analogy of the so called cor ona vi rus pa demic paints a perfect pic of thos the wrath of the Creator rest(saved/unsaved) Have all black folks been shielded from the power of the virus? No! "Israel", "Assyria", "Egypt" might have been chosen to be a blessing in the Earth(i.e survive the wrath), but no, not every single descendant of these people will make it, as one should be able to tell from the present plagues. Bring to mind: "the sinners of My people will perish", "I shall purge rebels from among you" etc The criteria for being saved is, first to be chosen(many are called, few are chosen): folks not chosen do not stand a chance, no matter how much they desire it. Because desire doesnt factor in-- no one comes to the Father except He draws him! Moreso, those that overcome are those who are"guarding the commands of the Creator and and the belief in His Son" Rev 14:12; 22: 14. Being of the chosen seed is irrespective if one does not meet the criteria. Now you mentioned about the wheat and tare, and your brother being married to a sweede, hoping for her to be saved on the basis of John 3:16. It's not my place to say if one's going to be saved or not(I've even shown that all of the chosen seed dont make it/qualify to). Yes John 3:16 says for the Creator so loved the world...that's not to say the whole world will be saved/ CAN(wheat/tare parable) be saved. What if john 3:16 has an insert--not properly translated by error or intentionally? Who knows? Matter of fact our savior said: "I pray for them. I DO NOT PRAY FOR THE WORLD but for those whom You have given Me, for they are Yours." John 17:9. If He didn't pray for the world, how can the world be saved? The most important to note is, the criteria has been clearly stated. Sentiment isn't applicable. Please note, I'm not condemning the Swedes or anyone neither am I saying these group of people will be saved as a whole(as aforementioned). That said, it must be stated that it is in the heart of the Father to bring in other nations(that are born from above--not tares) into His fold. It's all about meeting the Criteria and doing what He loves/pleases Him. "And let not the son of a foreigner who has joined himself to the Creator speak saying, the Creator has certainly separated me from His people...Also the sons of foreigners who join themselves to Him, to serve Him, and love His name[His authority/presence], to be His servants, all who guard the day of rest and not profane it, and hold fast to My covenant-them I shall bring to My set apart mountain and let them rejoice in My house of prayer...for My house is called the house of prayer for all peoples." Isa 56:2-7 I suppose, what your brother/anyone should focus on is answering : 1) Are you wheat or tare. Anyone not born from above CANNOT see the reign of the Creator. 2) Do you meet the Criteria? Now, back to the pan demic analogy that gives an idea of "saved/unsaved". Just like not all blacks have been shielded from this plague, not all white folks are negatively affected IN THE SAME PROPORTION. Yes, there are scripts that say Babel is completely destroyed--without remnant/descendant. But not all white folks are of Babel/Chaldeans. As a matter of fact, the book of Enoch paints Noah "white" and he was definitely not a tare! He produced "white" descendants too--the coastland people! Though notorious, the Creator has said He'll choose priests from them too! Isa 66:19-21; zeph 2:11. Anyone can clearly see from the pa demic that not all white folks are affected in equal measure. Hab 1:6 defines the Chaldeans: "See I am raising up the Chaldeans, a bitter and hasty nation, WHO IS GOING THROUGH THE BREADTH OF THE EARTH, TO POSSESS DWELLING PLACES THAT ARE NOT THEIRS." These are the Chaldeans/Babylonians and yes, they have been disproportionately affected by the pa demic! So I suppose, a fundamental Q your bro has to ans(or any one in fact) is: is his wife chaldean/babylonian? Or a tare? Because the Word concerning them is definitively spelt out-- "...let her have no remnant". No sentiment can change that. So do swedes meet the definition in Hab 1:6? Vikkings comes to mind. Only time will tell. The evident ones are the UK(and its derivitives--America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand etc), French(and its derivitives)portugese (and its derivitives-- Bazil etc) spanish(and its derivitives-- Argentina chile, columbia etc), Germans, italians, Dutch(and its derivitive South Africa), Russians, and the Greeks, Belgians, Angolans etc . These have truely walked the breadth of the earth to take dwelling places that are not theirs! |
Re: Tutelage By The Truth by Nobody: 7:31am On Oct 12, 2020 |
ShunTheWorld:. spot on |
Re: Tutelage By The Truth by Nobody: 7:43am On Oct 12, 2020 |
BTW, have you received any word from mansa? Do you plan to bring your son with you if wayfaring is approved? |
Re: Tutelage By The Truth by Nobody: 10:50am On Oct 12, 2020 |
I am so glad & pleased with the response. I do remember reading in the book of Enoch that Noah was born white, so we don't know who is who. I also read alot of Israel will Not make it. I did notice when the King said, I pray for them, I do not pray for the world, but then John 3:16 said he came for the world. Just for information- his wife's granddad was recruited as a soldier in Hitler's army & was born in Germany. So the descendants are very likely to be Chaldeans. At least I know how to respond to this subject by asking these 2 vital Qs 1) Are you wheat or tare. Anyone not born from above CANNOT see the reign of the Creator. 2) Do you meet the Criteria? As for me in my battling, I am struggling in my mind & falling over into lukewarm & double- mindedness. I'm asking myself which side am I on, because it's a dangerous place to be where I'm sitting, but I am tired with the fighting & losing the will - almost giving up. Mentally & spiritually worn out & fed up & I know I don't meet all the criteria. Just feel to disappear and get away from all this, Wish I had the mind as I did as a child, with nothing plaguing it & no worry if I'll make it. akli09: |
Re: Tutelage By The Truth by Nobody: 12:04pm On Oct 12, 2020 |
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Re: Tutelage By The Truth by Nobody: 3:02pm On Oct 12, 2020 |
ShunTheWorld:Why do you think you dont meet the criteria? Bring to mind: "Not of works lest any man should boast, it is the gift of the Creator." Do you not obey the commands of the Creator? Do you not believe in the Son? Those are the criteria. Rev 14:12; rev 22:14; mat 19:16-17; isa 66:2b Or are you a Chaldean? lol ![]() |
Re: Tutelage By The Truth by Nobody: 3:07pm On Oct 12, 2020 |
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