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Where did you guys get all these nonetities?

Our women are making us proud

Karleb:


You are claiming a thread on another man's property.

The post praised Messi for having more League goals than Ronaldo, a player who is more goal focused according to the post (438 - 311) but it wasn't stated anywhere that Messi has been playing in La liga before Ronaldo and Ronaldo left Laliga in 2018 and this is just one, there are others.

By the way, you're ill-mannered.

Thanks bros for the response, though I would have let Tespidd counter the point you raised, however let me reiterate that the write-up was on Messi's stats, and not on comparison between CR7 and Messi.

Furthermore, if you look further down the piece, you'll find out that he (Tespidd) brought Messi"s stats against others in Europe, where CR7's before (Man u.), La liga (Madrid) and after (Juve) were considered.

I hope you are satisfied with this.

Awesome01:


Thanks bros for the response, though I would have let Tespidd counter the point you raised, however let me reiterate that the write-ups was on Messi's stats, and not on comparison between CR7 and Messi.

Furthermore, if you look further down the piece, you'll find out that he (Tespidd) brought Messi"s stats against others in Europe, where CR7's before (Man u.), La liga (Madrid) and after (Juve) was considered.

I hope you are satisfied with this.

This is not a Messi Ronaldo thing.

Take for example, in the post when it got to chances created. Good works of players like Ozil and Payet was rubbished to glorify Messi's.

According to the stat they had more numbers but the post still ridiculed them. Who said Payet and Ozil don't score?

If Messi is scoring, they will say but he's not a striker.
If he's dribbling, they'll say but he isn't a winger.
If he's making assist, they'll say but he isn't a midfielder.

Funny thing is, Messi himself doesn't care.

That long epistle is nothing but stat padding and butt licking.

Karleb:


This is not a Messi Ronaldo thing.

Take for example, in the post when it got to chances created. Good works of players like Ozil and Payet was rubbished to glorify Messi's.

According to the stat they had more numbers but the post still ridiculed them. Who said Payet and Ozil don't score?

If Messi is scoring, they will say but he's not a striker.
If he's dribbling, they'll say but he isn't a winger.
If he's making assist, they'll say but he isn't a midfielder.

Funny thing is, Messi himself doesn't care.

That long epistle is nothing but stat padding and butt licking.

Well, looking at this response tells me you are more concerned about the writer's intent than the write-up itself. If that's the way you see it. You have a right to your opinion.

Anyway, just like you said: "Messi himself doesn't care."

Goodbye.

Karleb:


Where did you guys get all these nonetities?

Nonentity?On top wetin.Mind your words guy

Karleb:


You are claiming a thread on another man's property.

The post praised Messi for having more League goals than Ronaldo, a player who is more goal focused according to the post (438 - 311) but it wasn't stated anywhere that Messi has been playing in La liga before Ronaldo and Ronaldo left Laliga in 2018 and this is just one, there are others.

By the way, you're ill-mannered.

See who is calling someone ill-mannered

airmark:


Story.

Fraudiola hasn't proved he could win Ucl without Messi, while Messi and Barca showed us without the fraud they could win it.

You don't need to ask God for more wisdom to conclude sensibly.

We are Barca, we do not want just the UCL but the Sextuple.

How many coaches in history have done that? Just one and you his name.

Awesome01:


Thanks bros for the response, though I would have let Tespidd counter the point you raised, however let me reiterate that the write-up was on Messi's stats, and not on comparison between CR7 and Messi.

Furthermore, if you look further down the piece, you'll find out that he (Tespidd) brought Messi"s stats against others in Europe, where CR7's before (Man u.), La liga (Madrid) and after (Juve) were considered.

I hope you are satisfied with this.

I wouldn't respond to him.
He fails to understand the major essence of this;
which is the fact that Messi appears in all of the categories,; scoring, dribbling, passing, creating, assisting, freekicks. He even tops almost all of them.

No need to respond to him.

Karleb:


You are claiming a thread on another man's property.

The post praised Messi for having more League goals than Ronaldo, a player who is more goal focused according to the post (438 - 311) but it wasn't stated anywhere that Messi has been playing in La liga before Ronaldo and Ronaldo left Laliga in 2018 and this is just one, there are others.

By the way, you're ill-mannered.

Lol bro no stat paddling there....Even if you want to compare Messi and Cr7 from 2009-2018, Messi still beats him in the goals category in laliga. About the chances created, tespidd didn't discredit payet and ozil, he just pointed to Messi's all roundness in this game of football. I mean this is a guy who is the best dribbler even now, arguably the passer of the game now too, best playmaker currently and he's third in the stats above for someone has been playing as a forward for the greater part of his career. Now he also bangs in as much goals I mean six European golden boots is no fluke, three coming consecutively from 2017-2019. Now that's CLASS.

Bwhahahahah It's hilarious how Ronaldo lives rent-free in Barca fans head

TLona1:




We are Barca, we do not want just the UCL but the Sextuple.

How many coaches in history have done that? Just one and you his name.

After that how many times has he done it? Any way you look at it, Messi is the crown of Guardiola. Even Valverde has reached UCL semis.

IKON360:

After that how many times has he done it? Any way you look at it, Messi is the crown of Guardiola. Even Valverde has reached UCL semis.

The midfield trio was the crown of Pep Barca not Messi.

TLona1:




We are Barca, we do not want just the UCL but the Sextuple.

How many coaches in history have done that? Just one and you his name.

Fraudiola left your club, nobody cried. Messi wanted to leave, all of you started wailing. We know who was major for the sextuple between Fraudiola and Messi.

Don't forget Messi fc.

IKON360:

After that how many times has he done it? Any way you look at it, Messi is the crown of Guardiola. Even Valverde has reached UCL semis.

Abi o.

Godx:

The midfield trio was the crown of Pep Barca not Messi.

Swallow this, please. Messi was the crown of Pep's Barca. There's no disputing that.

But then, we mustn't rubbish the midfield prowess then too.

Barca's dependence on Messi didn't start 5 years ago. It wasn't just so obvious because we had other players that understood when to complement him when needed.

There's no need to be economical with the truth here.

FirstbornWds:


Swallow this, please. Messi was the crown of Pep's Barca. There's no disputing that.

But then, we mustn't rubbish the midfield prowess then too.

Barca's dependence on Messi didn't start 5 years ago. It wasn't just so obvious because we had other players that understood when to complement him when needed.

There's no need to be economical with the truth here.

Messi was not the crown of Peps Barca and that's the fact. The midfield trio was the crown of Pep Barca. Without that Midfield trio there will be no Pep Barca. Messi performance with Argentina and Barca during Pep era proves this. You are the one being economical with the truth here.

Godx:

Messi was not the crown of Peps Barca and that's the fact. The midfield trio was the crown of Pep Barca. Without that Midfield trio there will be no Pep Barca. Messi performance with Argentina and Barca during Pep era proves this. You are the one being economical with the truth here.

Bros. There's no gain proving what's not right.

Aside from the being the tactical genius and having a midfield trio that could press, who was responsible for scoring most of the goals, providing assists, splitting the defenses with dribbles that would cause even the defenders to commit frustrating fouls?

Messi or who?

Need I tell you that our most embarrassing moment in the Cl then to Bayern was basically because Messi was not fit.

The same goes for Jose's Inter Milan Semi-final against us. The cage was against Messi primarily.

I can go on to mention lots of matches that it took the exceptional brilliance of Messi to break through!

It was also during this period that he won the Ballon D'or back-back, with the likes of Iniesta and Xavi coming behind.


Mind you, I'm not downplaying the trio's contribution ( + Dani Alves too) to Pep best days... But placing Messi behind them is way not acceptable. Even Guardiola will rubbish that claim.


It's like not recognizing that it is what he wants to create out of Sterling even when it's obvious that KDB is the craftmaker at City.

Godx:

Messi was not the crown of Peps Barca and that's the fact. The midfield trio was the crown of Pep Barca. Without that Midfield trio there will be no Pep Barca. Messi performance with Argentina and Barca during Pep era proves this. You are the one being economical with the truth here.

Big ups and no disrespect to Xavi, Iniesta and Busquets but what manner of nonsense are you spewing here?

Are you trying so hard to be politically incorrect?

tesppidd:
Big ups and no disrespect to Xavi, Iniesta and Busquets but what manner of nonsense are you spewing here?

Are you trying so hard to be politically incorrect?

I'm not sure he's the one writing that. Maybe his account has been compromised.

FirstbornWds:


I'm not sure he's the one writing that. Maybe his account has been compromised.

Seriously?

Godx:

The midfield trio was the crown of Pep Barca not Messi.

What of Enrique? He won UCL and the midfield was without Xavi...

FirstbornWds:


Bros. There's no gain proving what's not right.

Aside from the being the tactical genius and having a midfield trio that could press, who was responsible for scoring most of the goals, providing assists, splitting the defenses with dribbles that would cause even the defenders to commit frustrating fouls?

Messi or who?

Need I tell you that our most embarrassing moment in the Cl then to Bayern was basically because Messi was not fit.

The same goes for Jose's Inter Milan Semi-final against us. The cage was against Messi primarily.

I can go on to mention lots of matches that it took the exceptional brilliance of Messi to break through!

It was also during this period that he won the Ballon D'or back-back, with the likes of Iniesta and Xavi coming behind.


Mind you, I'm not downplaying the trio's contribution ( + Dani Alves too) to Pep best days... But placing Messi behind them is way not acceptable. Even Guardiola will rubbish that claim.


It's like not recognizing that it is what he wants to create out of Sterling even when it's obvious that KDB is the craftmaker at City.

Maybe he is looking at it from the perspective that we lost our dominance of European football when Xavi and Iniesta left the club. Even though we still had Messi, we weren't such a force to be reckoned after Xavi left then Iniesta did

FirstbornWds:


Bros. There's no gain proving what's not right.

Aside from the being the tactical genius and having a midfield trio that could press, who was responsible for scoring most of the goals, providing assists, splitting the defenses with dribbles that would cause even the defenders to commit frustrating fouls?

Messi or who?

Need I tell you that our most embarrassing moment in the Cl then to Bayern was basically because Messi was not fit.

The same goes for Jose's Inter Milan Semi-final against us. The cage was against Messi primarily.

I can go on to mention lots of matches that it took the exceptional brilliance of Messi to break through!

It was also during this period that he won the Ballon D'or back-back, with the likes of Iniesta and Xavi coming behind.


Mind you, I'm not downplaying the trio's contribution ( + Dani Alves too) to Pep best days... But placing Messi behind them is way not acceptable. Even Guardiola will rubbish that claim.


It's like not recognizing that it is what he wants to create out of Sterling even when it's obvious that KDB is the craftmaker at City.

Bro you still haven't said anything we don't know before. Pep Barca was built on Midfield domination. That trio was the essence of Barca domination under Pep especially Xavi which even Spain benefitted from. Messi was just the cherry on top,the finishing touch. Like I said before Messi performance for Argentina and Barca during Pep era proves it.

IKON360:

What of Enrique? He won UCL and the midfield was without Xavi...

This is about Pep's Barca not Enrique. Enrique Barca was built on our Amazing front 3 not Midfield.

Godx:

Bro you still haven't said anything we don't know before. Pep Barca was built on Midfield domination. That trio was the essence of Barca domination under Pep especially Xavi which even Spain benefitted from. Messi was just the cherry on top,the finishing touch. Like I said before Messi performance for Argentina and Barca during Pep era proves it.

Well you have point, because the midfield without Messi won the world cup and two Euros. And Messi without that midfield hasn't won an international trophy. Even though these were awesome players.
But I still think that Messi was instrumental in taking that midfield to the next level of excellence. If you watched some of Spain's matches in that 2010 and many of Guardiola's matches without Messi, some resolute teams have proven extremely difficult to break down. From Madrid, Athletico Madrid for Guardiola to Germany, Netherlands etc for Spain.
But I still think that Guardiola is known today, not because of his work with the best midfielders in the last 10 years but because of his work with the best player ever

Godx:

This is about Pep's Barca not Enrique. Enrique Barca was built on our Amazing front 3 not Midfield.

The front three had Messi fyi

IKON360:

The front three had Messi fyi

And?

IKON360:

Well you have point, because the midfield without Messi won the world cup and two Euros. And Messi without that midfield hasn't won an international trophy. Even though these were awesome players.
But I still think that Messi was instrumental in taking that midfield to the next level of excellence. If you watched some of Spain's matches in that 2010 and many of Guardiola's matches without Messi, some resolute teams have proven extremely difficult to break down. From Madrid, Athletico Madrid for Guardiola to Germany, Netherlands etc for Spain.
But I still think that Guardiola is known today, not because of his work with the best midfielders in the last 10 years but because of his work with the best player ever

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Now this is the main deal!!!

Godx:

Bro you still haven't said anything we don't know before. Pep Barca was built on Midfield domination. That trio was the essence of Barca domination under Pep especially Xavi which even Spain benefitted from. Messi was just the cherry on top,the finishing touch. Like I said before Messi performance for Argentina and Barca during Pep era proves it.

What is Messi's performance for Argentina? Because they lost 3 finals?

1.Making it to 3 finals in the first place in rubbish?
2.Scoring the highest goals for Argentina is rubbish?
3.Making the highest assists for Argentina is rubbish?
4.Creating the highest scoring chances for fellow teammates is rubbish?

Do you think that Xavi and Iniesta would ever have won anything for Spain if the didn't have prime Villa and Torres upfront and then Puyol, Pique and Ramos at the back?

You really need to broaden your reasoning of this game called football.

IKON360:

Well you have point, because the midfield without Messi won the world cup and two Euros. And Messi without that midfield hasn't won an international trophy. Even though these were awesome players.
But I still think that Messi was instrumental in taking that midfield to the next level of excellence. If you watched some of Spain's matches in that 2010 and many of Guardiola's matches without Messi, some resolute teams have proven extremely difficult to break down. From Madrid, Athletico Madrid for Guardiola to Germany, Netherlands etc for Spain.
But I still think that Guardiola is known today, not because of his work with the best midfielders in the last 10 years but because of his work with the best player ever

What do you mean by "the midfield"?

Or are you guys telling us that a team of 11 players played football but only Xavi and Iniesta won the world cup?

You mean Xavi and Iniesta won the world cup and the euros?

Not David Villa?
Not Fernando Torres?
Not Carlos Puyol?
Not Gerald Pique?
Not Sergio Ramos?
Not the GOAT goalkeeper at the time Iker Casillas?

Wao!

The dude has no point! Even if he was working decimals all day, he'd still have no point.

Godx:

Bro you still haven't said anything we don't know before. Pep Barca was built on Midfield domination. That trio was the essence of Barca domination under Pep especially Xavi which even Spain benefitted from. Messi was just the cherry on top,the finishing touch. Like I said before Messi performance for Argentina and Barca during Pep era proves it.

I'll totally understand you trying to downplay Messi's influence in barca's success.
You said Messi's performances with argentina proved his over reliance on the midfield trio during Pep's era. How about his performances after that?

See bro, the midfield was important, but Messi was the man. He wasn't just the cherry on top of the cake, he was the X factor. He practically made the job of the midfield and attackers look easier.

The midfield trio thrived with Spain not because they were superhunans , but because Spain was bursting with talents. The Spanish midfield had xabi alonso and others who made things happen with or without them. Simply put, the Spanish team was complete from attack to defense.