Godx:

This is not related to my post in any way.

khingTony:

You shouldn't be arguing with that guy, he doesn't leave any post that criticizes Messi unattended to.

tesppidd:
I had wanted to call out De Jong but I just shut up seeing that he's a darling of most peeps here.

I have watched him over and over again and honestly I see nothing special.
He's at best just like any other decent midfielder out there, nothing so special.

Seems that he turned out like his compatriot at Juve, De Ligt.

Godx:

You didn't try explaining anything that made sense. I even went further to clearly show you Messi struggles didn't start this season so that excuse won't fly. Through out 2020 he has been terrible in finding the back of the net. If you like accept or not that's on you and any other mental gymnastics you want to apply to believe Messi has not decline.

tesppidd:
I posted that Messi had declined yes but its a natural phenomenon at 33.
But you're amazed that he's declined.

Even at that, his all round contribution to the team still beats every other player but obviously what you were trying to preach all along was that he should have been sold.

What you displayed was selective amnesia and cherry picking stats.

I have never seen where someone picks 18 games across 2 seasons and judges a player based on that.

Normal people do it season by season but out of mischief you judge by 18 games across 2 seasons. Bleep!

We all know that Messi got 25 goals and 21 assists last season 2019/20.

This season is just getting started!

You don't even have any player who posted better stats than that in your team yet your nagging like a house wife.

Niggar GTFOH.

khingTony:

You shouldn't be arguing with that guy, he doesn't leave any post that criticizes Messi unattended to.

Godx:

K

tesppidd:
Y'all are just spoilt brats.

Spoilt brats, that's what you are.

You keep on talking this way about a player who continues to post the best numbers for us.

Whenever anybody tries to point out your folly you come up with this usual blackmail about Messi fan bla bla bla.

It's foolish to continue to criticize Messi when you don't even have any player better than him in your team.

You just came from church, changed into your swimsuit and jumped with him into his swimming pool of foolishness.

Too bad.

haymekus:


I leave this with you

You have a very big problem in life

Godx:

Not talking about assists. Specifically talking about Messi scoring from open play.


* In 19 la liga matches last season from January to August he only scored an open play goal in 4 matches

*1:0 vs granada
*5:0 vs eibar 4 goals
*4:0 vs mallorca scored in 93rd mins
*5:0 vs alaves. Scored twice last game of the season.


All other goals were penalties and one freekick. In the champions league too he scored only one goal from open play in 3 matches (vs Napoli). 19+3=22matches

When we add the 3 league games this season that means he has scored from open play in only 5 of his last 25games for Barca.

joviegghead:
Messi is declining? Yes!
In terms of goal scoring? Yea.

Should you be surprised? Nope. The world expected it. We expected a time when Messi will revert to a play making role. Why the hell is it such a big deal? His assists and chance created stats have risen recently, as we've anticipated years back.

Messi himself said that he is less-obsessed with goals. Still the man takes shots in matches to get goals for team, like we saw yesterday.

So what's the basis for the criticism? He should be benched? Okay. Name the most creative player in the team. Nobody! Except Messi!

As for his seemingly lackadaisical attitude. Not surprising. Dude has seen all that can be seen. I've said that he seems changed. Maybe competition somewhere else will bring out that fire. But for now all we can do is enjoy what's left of the genius and hope barca can come with a strong team.

He is not our problem. The team(some players) , the management are.

And maybe no fans to make his head swell

tesppidd:
I posted that Messi had declined yes but its a natural phenomenon at 33.
But you're amazed that he's declined.

Even at that, his all round contribution to the team still beats every other player but obviously what you were trying to preach all along was that he should have been sold.

What you displayed was selective amnesia and cherry picking stats.

I have never seen where someone picks 18 games across 2 seasons and judges a player based on that.

Normal people do it season by season but out of mischief you judge by 18 games across 2 seasons. Bleep!

We all know that Messi got 25 goals and 21 assists last season 2019/20.

This season is just getting started!

You don't even have any player who posted better stats than that in your team yet your nagging like a house wife.

Niggar GTFOH.

tesppidd:
U know why you use memes so much right?

To mask your deficiencies.

You were the first to reply me with memes bruh...you're just desperately looking for how to deviate Messi has 5 goals from open play in 25 games that's the topic

rationalmind:


Well said. I see people do this all the time and I find it really annoying. The moment I see things like last 6 matches, last 10 matches, I just know someone is trying to push an agenda.

Godx:

*If Messi doesn't want to be here then he should have been sold. That's a potential 150M Barca could have gotten from Messi sale to improve the team.

* Messi position is a big problem for Barca set up and for any coach.

The question is where does one play Messi?

He can't play as a #9 as his movement is poor and has no aerial/physical presence, can't play as false 9, he doesn't have the pace nor workrate nor stamina to play at Right wing, he doesn't have the workrate, stamina or positional discipline to play in midfield.

tesppidd:
I posted that Messi had declined yes but its a natural phenomenon at 33.
But you're amazed that he's declined.

Even at that, his all round contribution to the team still beats every other player but obviously what you were trying to preach all along was that he should have been sold.

What you displayed was selective amnesia and cherry picking stats.

I have never seen where someone picks 18 games across 2 seasons and judges a player based on that.

Normal people do it season by season but out of mischief you judge by 18 games across 2 seasons. Bleep!

We all know that Messi got 25 goals and 21 assists last season 2019/20.

This season is just getting started!

You don't even have any player who posted better stats than that in your team yet your nagging like a house wife.

Niggar GTFOH.

See am, always getting emotional during arguements while also making useless points, can never argue without name calling and cursing

You need therapy bro

rationalmind:


Well said. I see people do this all the time and I find it really annoying. The moment I see things like last 6 matches, last 10 matches, I just know someone is trying to push an agenda.

joviegghead:


Sell Messi? Well, we all saw how that went. Deep down I know he loves Barça. His attitude has improved unlike preseason when he hardly celebrated his goals but just frowned. Maybe it's the continuance of Bartomeu that angers him. But Messi is here to stay, for now. His comments about moving forward shows its still there somehow.

As for your claim about Messi not being able to play as a 9 or false 9 or a right winger, all I can say is.... Chill.
Messi still has ALL it takes to excel in all those positions and he can. It's a matter of Koeman expressing what he wants. Enrique pushed Messi to the right for Suarez. Messi misbehaved initially, but after, Xavi and Iniesta talked to him, the man excelled. Before that, he was the deadliest Striker!

But, the team is going through a lot!
Messi still not sure if this team has what it takes to win UCL.
Griezmann is trying to talk his way to dethroning Messi has the main man. And misfiring


Koeman still confused in what to do. I mean, Dembele is back, Fati is rising, Trincao is talented. Pedri just compounded the problem with his superb performance yesterday. And he still has to fulfill his promise to Coutinho of 'making him an integral part of his plan'.

Koeman is still trying to fix the midfield. Busquets is a captain(politics) . De Jong is his compatriot(sentiments) . Puig and Aleña are holding tight for playing time. And then he still has an achieved player like Pjanic waiting on the line.

Let not even talk about defense.

Dude, it's still early days to start over criticizing. Even Enrique's barca struggled but turned up at the second half of the season. Let's wait.

My only qualms is starting Griezmann.

Neymar1095:

Shut up your mouth. It's the same Messi fans that will tell us Messi scored 91goals in a year and Barca won the sextuple . Did those things happen in one season. When the agenda is not in your favor you are here crying. My friend take several sits.

pu7pl3:


See am, always getting emotional during arguements while also making useless points, can never argue without name calling and cursing

You need therapy bro

pu7pl3:


You were the first to reply me with memes bruh...you're just desperately looking for how to deviate Messi has 5 goals from open play in 25 games that's the topic

GrammarNazi1:

Many of these critics, who are more sentimental than they are logical, are not even Barça fans. Many of them are Real Madrid fans and we all know that Messi is their problem.

Tesppidd, these critics are cherry pickers!

Neymar1095:

Who is this pig? Get the fucccck outta here and go feed your castrated children

Melvyn11:

It's 4 matches not 3 and you didn't add the two matches for Argentina which will make it 5 in 28games

Neymar1095:

So he has only scored open play goals in 5 games out of 28 . Messi is a disgrace and a flop. No wonder Barca was eating 8 goals when Neymar was leading psg to a champions league final.

tesppidd:
See who's talking

Isn't that what you were until you got severely battered some time ago and became humble?

rationalmind:


Well said. I see people do this all the time and I find it really annoying. The moment I see things like last 6 matches, last 10 matches, I just know someone is trying to push an agenda.

pu7pl3:


your name should be Mr deviation, no one does it better