Godx:

You actually never said anything at all why Homosexuality should be legalize in Nigeria apart from "live and let's live" which was no offense premium bullshit. State your reasons clearly why you support legalizing Homosexuality and not incest, bestiality and zoophilia.

You keep mentioning "incest, bestiality and zoophilia" when the adverse effects of those practices are clear. Are those the same thing as homosexuality?

Obviously, you don't have any tangible reason, except "the Bible says so".

raumdeuter:


Homosexuals are human and they are not hurting anyone by their acts.
They simply have sex with consenting adults like heterosexuals do

Well, so are polygamists, but polygamy is illegal in most western countries.

So is bestiality. A man can't just stand up tommorow and sat he wants to legally penetrate his pet goat in Yankee or Canada or UK

That it doesn't hurt anyone, is historically not a sufficient reason to decriminalise certain acts.

gensteejay:

You keep mentioning "incest, bestiality and zoophilia" when the adverse effects of those practices are clear. Are those the same thing as homosexuality?

Obviously, you don't have any tangible reason, except "the Bible says so".

what's the adverse effect of bestiality?

gensteejay:

You keep mentioning "incest, bestiality and zoophilia" when the adverse effects of those practices are clear. Are those the same thing as homosexuality?

Obviously, you don't have any tangible reason, except "the Bible says so".

Bring out the adverse effects of those practices and I will show you Homosexuality is not any different. I know you will chicken out now.

Expert17:

So we are expecting new monikers on Chelsea thread

Guy you dey mad.

nihilistjnr:
what's the adverse effect of bestiality?

Some diseases and microbes can be transmitted from animals to humans (zoonoses) during mating even with a contraceptive, so sexual relations with animals are a high-risk activity.

I feel its cons significantly outweigh its pros.

OJURONGBE1:


Egbon, e be like say you dey take shisha this afternoon .
How many times will i quote 2Tim 3 (16-17) for you? There are so many practices like sacrifices, sprinkling of blood for sin atonement that have been abolished through Christ death on the cross of Calvary. He's our mediator, who has reconciled us with God 1Tim 2:5
We still sing the book of Psalms, admonish ourselves with proverbs and learn about the prophets of God in the old testament.

But the new testament approves of slave master relationship

Godx:

Bring out the adverse effects of those practices and I will show you Homosexuality is not any different. I know you will chicken out now.

I already stated one up there. Microbial transmission from animals to human during mating.

The same risk that eating live animals and insects poses to humans.

gensteejay:

Some diseases and microbes can be transmitted from animals to humans (zoonoses) during mating even with a contraceptive, so sexual relations with animals are a high-risk activity.

I feel its cons significantly outweigh its pros.

Well, the highest concentrations of HIV in the western world is found in the male gay population

So it's a pretty high risk interaction too

Chaos 3: 1-2

I come in peace, to witness violence.
Not to partake in it in any form, neigh, but to feed off it. I do not support the oppressor nor do I feel for the oppressed, neither will I tolerate them who seek peace.
On this thread shall I sit and witness unrest!!!.

nihilistjnr:
Well, so are polygamists, but polygamy is illegal in most western countries.

So is bestiality. A man can't just stand up tommorow and sat he wants to legally penetrate his pet goat in Yankee or Canada or UK

That it doesn't hurt anyone, is historically not a sufficient reason to decriminalise certain acts.

I dont have a problem with Polygamy as long as its between consenting adults. People should be free to poke whoever they want as long as they are old enough to give consent
Western countries make laws based on their cultures and are not superior to others who do not have the same culture as them

Bestiality is between a man and an animal not between 2 human and we cannot equate a relationship between 2 human to that of between a man and an animal

gensteejay:

I already stated one up there. Microbial transmission from animals to human during mating.

The same risk that eating live animals and insects poses to humans.

Is there any sexual relation of any kind that's not health risk or do I have to list all the diseases humans can get from same sex intercourse.

* So now we have established both bestiality and Homosexuality relationship both have same problems.


Is there anything else in your Arsenal?

raumdeuter:


I dont have a problem with Polygamy as long as its between consenting adults. People should be free to poke whoever they want as long as they are old enough to give consent

Bestiality is between a man and an animal not between 2 human and we cannot equate a relationship between 2 human to that of between a man and an animal

Whether you have a problem with polygamy or not is irrelevant.

The fact is that in the county you live in, polygamy is against the law, attracting a prison sentence to boot.

Why can't anyone decide they want to fück their pet goat? It's not like the owner needs consent.

gensteejay:

You keep mentioning "incest, bestiality and zoophilia" when the adverse effects of those practices are clear. Are those the same thing as homosexuality?

Obviously, you don't have any tangible reason, except "the Bible says so".

I don't know much about the adverse effect of homosexuality but I am sure people are against it because it makes them quite uncomfortable. Just like exposing certain grossly graphic images to someone without warning; that action while not causing them harm, would really make them uncomfortable. Some would have goosebumps even.

I don't subscribe to two males kissing each other publicly or in a public transport I am sharing with them. It would creep me out.

There is also the issue of where they would fit in amongst genders in the society. During my undergraduate days, I once worked in a company where the male bathroom and locker room where shared together. There was no need for privacy since all were men. I knew this boy whose name is Ngozi as gay. I knew because he was busted on facebook. Ngozi like all men shares the locker room and bathroom with others. But when he was busted, people he shared the same gender with felt creepy and really uncomfortable having Ngozi bathe with them...

How would the company accommodate Ngozi as regards to the issue of bathroom and locker room in other not to violate the privacy of heterosexual men in the company?...

Ngozi didn't fit in with the men cos he made them uncomfortable, Ngozi didn't fit in with the women cos they won't even hear of it......Regretably, Ngozi had to be sacked.

nihilistjnr:



Whether you have a problem with polygamy or not is irrelevant.

The fact is that in the county you live in, polygamy is against the law, attracting a prison sentence to boot.

Why can't anyone decide they want to fück their pet goat? It's not like the owner needs consent.

That would amount to cruelty against the animal.

Note, cruelty against animals is an offence in Nigeria.

nihilistjnr:


Well, the highest concentrations of HIV in the western world is found in the male gay population

In the US, "blacks/African Americans account for a higher proportion of new HIV diagnoses", according to CDC. How does skin color make a person more predisposed to contracting the virus?

How does homosexuality make a person more predisposed to contracting HIV?

In the olden days (in the dark ages of science), homos were killed based on biblical injunctions. Today, many homos face persecution, stigma, and lack of access to quality health care in the US compared with people that are straight.

Thus, these are some of the key issues preventing homos from seeking and receiving quality health services, such as HIV testing, treatment, and other prevention services.

swiz123:


That would amount to cruelty against the animal.

Note, cruelty against animals is an offence in Nigeria.

What do you mean by cruelty? Butchering of animals is not cruelty but having intercourse with one is cruelty. Does that make sense to you in anyway? You eat meat and chop chicken everyday,use animal products but now you suddenly care about the well being of animals. You must be joking

gensteejay:

In the US, "blacks/African Americans account for a higher proportion of new HIV diagnoses", according to CDC. How does skin color make a person more predisposed to contracting the virus?

How does homosexuality make a person more predisposed to contracting HIV?

In the olden days (in the dark ages of science), homos were killed based on biblical injunctions. Today, many homos face persecution, stigma, and lack of access to quality health care in the US compared with people that are straight.

Thus, these are some of the key issues preventing homos from seeking and receiving quality health services, such as HIV testing, treatment, and other prevention services.

Bros don't turn this discussion into something else.

If you know how open gay people are here, then you know what you're saying no even follow.

Some gays actually have HIV infection parties.

Anti-retroviral medication is cheap and readily available.

So if gay people are consciously seeking out HIV patients to fück, then why can't a man fück his pet goat?

Kpatakpata he can wear a condom to practice safe goatsex

swiz123:


That would amount to cruelty against the animal.

Note, cruelty against animals is an offence in Nigeria.

But killing the animal isn't cruel?

Godx:

What do you mean by cruelty? Butchering of animals is not cruelty but having intercourse with one is cruelty. Does that make sense to you in anyway? You eat meat and chop chicken everyday,use animal products but now you suddenly care about the well being of animals. You must be joking

Put your argument against the 1999 constitution, not me. The law decides what constitutes cruelty against animal.

Godx:

Is there any sexual relation of any kind that's not health risk or do I have to list all the diseases humans can get from same sex intercourse.

*So now we have established both bestiality and Homosexuality relationship both have same problems.


Is there anything else in your Arsenal?

Just like sexual relations of straight people also expose them to different diseases.

Everything in life has some risks associated with it. The ones termed bad are those whose demerits outweigh the merits like incest (father-child sexual relations), bestiality.

So far, you've not shown how homosexuality has more demerits than merits.

nihilistjnr:


But killing the animal isn't cruel?

Like I told the guy above, the law decides what constitutes cruelty against animals.

For example, slicing the throat of a ram is not unlawful but pushing your luck by stabbing the ram multiple times in a bid to kill it might be considered cruel, and as such an offence.

gensteejay:

Just like sexual relations of straight people also expose them to different diseases.

Everything in life has some risks associated with it. The ones termed bad are those whose demerits outweigh the merits like incest (father-child sexual relations), bestiality.

So far, you've not shown how homosexuality has more demerits than merits.

K

swiz123:


Put your argument against the 1999 constitution, not me. The law decides what constitutes cruelty against animal.

I think this is the point.

If the government criminalises homosexuality, then there is a clear precedent for the suppression of individual freedoms in the interest of public 'welfare'

swiz123:


Put your argument against the 1999 constitution, not me. The law decides what constitutes cruelty against animal.

K

nihilistjnr:


I think this is the point.

If the government criminalises homosexuality, then there is a clear precedent for the suppression of individual freedoms in the interest of public 'welfare'

Exactly!!.

Like I said earlier, there is hardly a place for homosexuals in Nigeria. Not when majority of us practice communal living.

Who go like leave em pikin with man wey dey tear nyash?

swiz123:


Like I told the guy above, the law decides what constitutes cruelty against animals.

For example, slicing the throat of a ram is not unlawful but pushing your luck by stabbing the ram multiple times in a bid to kill it might be considered cruel, and as such an offence.

Why is the murder of an animal not cruel? Would you seek to establish a similar distinction if it was a human being?

You probably wouldn't. Which suggests that the life of a common goat is worthless.

So if you're allowed to kill a goat, why are you not allowed to fück it?

swiz123:


Exactly!!.

Like I said earlier, there is hardly a place for homosexuals in Nigeria. Not when majority of us practice communal living.

Who go like leave em pikin with man wey dey tear nyash?

I get you. Na Raumdeuter I dey really follow discuss

nihilistjnr:


Bros don't turn this discussion into something else.

If you know how open gay people are here, then you know what you're saying no even follow.

Some gays actually have HIV infection parties.

That's in the UK. You can't say the same thing about the US. You're generalizing for the whole Western world.

nihilistjnr:

So if gay people are consciously seeking out HIV patients to fück, then why can't a man fück his pet goat?

Kpatakpata he can wear a condom to practice safe goatsex

A human is intelligent enough to protect himself from microbes, unlike an animal.

Unlike a human that can go for tests regularly and undergo preventive measures against a disease, an animal can't do so on its own unless by human intervention.

Besides, some people don't limit their bestial activities to their pets alone.

Neobulletzz:
Some training pictures today

Peep who is behind Silva but not sure he would start tho but all others fit

thanks for the pictures.
For the person behind Silva, maybe Caballero (just maybe).
Nice to actually see Silva back.

gensteejay:

That's in the UK. You can't say the same thing about the US. You're generalizing for the whole Western world.

A human is intelligent enough to protect himself from microbes, unlike an animal.

Unlike a human that can go for tests regularly and undergo preventive measures against a disease, an animal can't do so on it's own unless by human intervention.

Besides, some people don't limit their bestial activities to their pets alone.

Abeg don't spoil this discussion with silly sidetracking

You are the one what was trying to explain why hiv is prevalent in gay populations because they hide their sexuality and their status.

I countered by saying that's not true, because gays are so open with their sexuality and health status, that some go as far as trying to deliberately catch the disease from an infected partner.

The other part is just stupid now. You mean the owner of a pet goat that he's legally allowed to kill, should not be allowed to fück his goat because it can't go for medical check-up?

Shey fried goat meat dey leave pot to do blood test ni?

Neobulletzz:
Some training pictures today

Peep who is behind Silva but not sure he would start tho but all others fit

I hope Ziyech starts.