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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 5:16pm On Oct 19, 2020
nihilistjnr:


Abeg don't spoil this discussion with silly sidetracking

You are the one what was trying to explain why hiv is prevalent in gay populations because they hide their sexuality and their status.?
Where did I say gay populations hide their HIV status?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 5:18pm On Oct 19, 2020
nihilistjnr:


Why is the murder of an animal not cruel? Would you seek to establish a similar distinction if it was a human being?

You probably wouldn't. Which suggests that the life of a common goat is worthless.

So if you're allowed to kill a goat, why are you not allowed to fück it?

Those animals we kill are mainly bred for consumption and sometimes to source raw materials. Those animals becomes, amongst other things, a source of income for its rearers, source of food for its consumers and an avenue to improve the countries GDP.

Killing of endangered species is an offence in all countries.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 5:21pm On Oct 19, 2020
gensteejay:

Where did I say gay populations hide their HIV status?

Please I don't have time for semantics today.

gensteejay:

Today, many homos face persecution, stigma, and lack of access to quality health care in the US compared with people that are straight.

Thus, these are some of the key issues preventing homos from seeking and receiving quality health services, such as HIV testing, treatment, and other prevention services.


You said homos in Yankee are not seeking HIV testing because of the persecution and stigma they faced.

When in actual fact, it's the yankee gays that invented the HIV chasing practice.

Stigma? Against gays? In Yankee? Bruhh..

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 5:23pm On Oct 19, 2020
Godx:

What do you mean by cruelty? Butchering of animals is not cruelty but having intercourse with one is cruelty. Does that make sense to you in anyway? You eat meat and chop chicken everyday,use animal products but now you suddenly care about the well being of animals. You must be joking

grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 5:28pm On Oct 19, 2020
raumdeuter:


Another thing I have to work with you on is your temper. Replying harshly will only get negative response. People will always oppose you but you have to be calm and not reply harshly else what you are trying to communicate

Let me handle this

This man right here is the cruise master of this thread..... grin grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 5:28pm On Oct 19, 2020
nihilistjnr:


Why is the murder of an animal not cruel? Would you seek to establish a similar distinction if it was a human being?

You probably wouldn't. Which suggests that the life of a common goat is worthless.

So if you're allowed to kill a goat, why are you not allowed to fück it?

grin

Wahala dey.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 5:29pm On Oct 19, 2020
nihilistjnr:


Please I don't have time for semantics today.




You said homos in Yankee are not seeking HIV testing because of the persecution and stigma they faced.
That was what I said. Don't twist a statement I made not quite along ago, to suit your agenda.

nihilistjnr:
Stigma? Against gays? In Yankee? Bruhh..
The picture you attached says "in the UK". HIV chasing is also practised by straight people, even in Third World countries as well, including Nigeria.

Please, let's go back to sports. Nice discussing with you.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 5:33pm On Oct 19, 2020
nihilistjnr:


Please I don't have time for semantics today.




You said homos in Yankee are not seeking HIV testing because of the persecution and stigma they faced.

When in actual fact, it's the yankee gays that invented the HIV chasing practice.

Stigma? Against gays? In Yankee? Bruhh..

He should have asked Dayo for crucial information before arguing blindly.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by 2emotional(m): 5:34pm On Oct 19, 2020
Make una leave this talk jare....presently cars and properties are burning ablaze in apo mechanic village abuja.my uncles car is trapped inside the market and no means to drive out. And according to him na aboki dem handwork be this oooo..... I believe that all these nonsense are championed by this bloody government to accuse endsars protestors.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 5:34pm On Oct 19, 2020
gensteejay:

That was what I said. Don't twist a statement I made not quite along ago, to suit your agenda.


You said gays are not "seeking treatment".

How is this different to - Gays are hiding their status.

Explain.

gensteejay:


The picture you attached says "in the UK".

Read the circled part. Where did it start?


Then explain how the man that is openly advertising his HIV status, and the man that is looking for somebody to infect him with HIV, Is not seeking treatment due to stigmatisation.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 5:35pm On Oct 19, 2020
airmark:


He should have asked Dayo for crucial information before arguing blindly.

You dey mind am?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 5:43pm On Oct 19, 2020
nihilistjnr:

You said gays are not "seeking treatment".

How is this different to - Gays are hiding their status.

Explain.



Read the circled part. Where did it start?


Then explain how the man that is openly advertising his HIV status, and the man that is looking for somebody to infect him with HIV, Is not seeking treatment due to stigmatisation.
Whatever rocks your boat. Personally, I've seen not cogent reasons for criminalizing homos.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timay(m): 5:45pm On Oct 19, 2020
Actman05:
I hope Ziyech starts.
Only if Mount becomes crippled grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 5:48pm On Oct 19, 2020
swiz123:


Like I told the guy above, the law decides what constitutes cruelty against animals.

For example, slicing the throat of a ram is not unlawful but pushing your luck by stabbing the ram multiple times in a bid to kill it might be considered cruel, and as such an offence.

Listen, it's inherently disingenuous to equate homosexuality with bestiality. This is false equivalence and whataboutism at it's finest.

Why would people immediately start talking about bestiality when people talk about homosexuality??

Secondly, on the issue of bestiality, it is wrong because of the issue of consent. having sex with an animal is essentially raping that animal.
We as a society are now evolving in our thoughts and becoming more conscious of animal rights. Yes, killing an animal is now being seeing as bad. Milking an animal is now being seen as bad.
But prominent thinkers classify it as necessary wrong, seeing as these are essential to our survival. The mechanics of the ecosystem is geared towards a pyramid with us at its peak and the same animals also eventually gaining from us.
Anyways, I digress.
Homosexuality has no correlation to bestiality. These are two entirely different phenomenas.
False equivalence and whataboutism are not needed. A human being has a very high distinction physically, morphologically, mentally, emotionally and intellectually from other animals. Comparing both is wrong.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 5:49pm On Oct 19, 2020
gensteejay:

Whatever rocks your boat. Personally, I've seen not cogent reasons for criminalizing homos.

I didn't discuss criminalising homosexuality with you.

What I asked you was how having sex with a goat was more dangerous than gay sex with a man.

And in true otemic style, you did not fail to completely dodge the question.

Good evening.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 5:54pm On Oct 19, 2020
nihilistjnr:


Why is the murder of an animal not cruel? Would you seek to establish a similar distinction if it was a human being?

You probably wouldn't. Which suggests that the life of a common goat is worthless.

So if you're allowed to kill a goat, why are you not allowed to fück it?
Nsogbu dikwa grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 5:55pm On Oct 19, 2020
nihilistjnr:


I didn't discuss criminalising homosexuality with you.

What I asked you was how having sex with a goat was more dangerous than gay sex with a man.
I already answered that in one of my earlier comments you quoted before you started your twisting game.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 5:55pm On Oct 19, 2020
I didn't even realise.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 5:56pm On Oct 19, 2020
gensteejay:

I already answered that in one of my earlier comments you quoted before you started your twisting game.

Whatever floats your boat - Good evening.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 6:06pm On Oct 19, 2020
nihilistjnr:


What's necessary about killing animals for food?

Meat diet is not even good for the body, and meat production is terrible on the environment.

We don't need meat to survive. We don't need to eat it.
So why is it necessary to kill animals?

But we don't just kill animals for meat, do we??
We used some of their body parts in advanced pharmacy and medical practices.
we use them to also better understand our body and the natural interactions of our biochemistry.
We use their skins for essential products.
The trade of these animals for other purposes are very vital to man's economic development and by extension, survival.

As I said earlier, we are evolving in our thoughts and beginning to recognize animal rights which results have brought about in conservation efforts, better regulations in killing of animals.
By genetically modifying animals, we're essentially creating our own animal's. We basically created non reproductive breeds of some animals like broilers and layers to artificially sustain our meat and egg cravings. All these are parts of efforts to control how we kill animals because we realize it is bad doing so unnecessarily.

Although, all these have no correlation with the question of the illegalization of homosexuality.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 6:16pm On Oct 19, 2020
Amalanometry at its finest. cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 6:19pm On Oct 19, 2020
afrodoc2:
Amalanometry at its finest. cheesy

Na Raumdeuter I dey wait for since. The guy took one position, I took the other...and then he japa.

Next time, I no dey do again.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 6:21pm On Oct 19, 2020
Damn...that tob maps-itna (in reverse) really did me dirty. Wetin I do sef undecided

And by the way, Kuje beans is not good for your health.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 6:25pm On Oct 19, 2020
nihilistjnr:


Na Raumdeuter I dey wait for since. The guy took one position, I took the other...and then he japa.

Next time, I no dey do again.

cheesy

I know say na academic exercise for you. Your wahala dey too much.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 6:26pm On Oct 19, 2020
Meanwhile Benin dey hot.

Some kind people turn protest to Tokyo drift competition
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by 2emotional(m): 6:27pm On Oct 19, 2020
BlueMann:
Damn...that tob maps-itna (in reverse) really did me dirty. Wetin I do sef undecided

And by the way, Kuje beans is not good for your health.
Fear fear... grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 6:38pm On Oct 19, 2020
nihilistjnr:


You dey mind am?


My Otem guy quickly begged you to stop and start discussing sports. grin

gensteejay:

Please, let's go back to sports. Nice discussing with you.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spillo1: 6:40pm On Oct 19, 2020
Godx:

What do you mean by cruelty? Butchering of animals is not cruelty but having intercourse with one is cruelty. Does that make sense to you in anyway? You eat meat and chop chicken everyday,use animal products but now you suddenly care about the well being of animals. You must be joking
LMFAO
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:41pm On Oct 19, 2020
airmark:


[s]My Otem guy quickly begged you to stop and start discussing sports. grin[/s]

Stop quoting my posts to say your usual nonsense. I've better things to do with my time than engaging in unnecessary back-and-forth online.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 6:51pm On Oct 19, 2020
2emotional:

Fear fear... grin

Once beaten, twice lipsrsealed
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 6:54pm On Oct 19, 2020
BlueMann:
Meanwhile Benin dey hot.

Some kind people turn protest to Tokyo drift competition

Na government send them o.

Peaceful protesters can’t be doing it. The government just want to discredit the peaceful movement.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 6:54pm On Oct 19, 2020
gensteejay:

Stop quoting my posts to say your usual nonsense. I've better things to do with my time than engaging in unnecessary back-and-forth online.

Better things like reading about the aSTIGMAtism of Homos in USA. grin

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