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Re: Answers About God From A Famous Ex-atheist With 50yrs Experience Of Arguments by pozehnani(f): 6:05pm On Oct 14, 2020 |
jesusjnr2020: Lol... Their president has surrendered. Las Las they will all surrender. The church of God is matching on and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Hallelujah! 1 Like |
Re: Answers About God From A Famous Ex-atheist With 50yrs Experience Of Arguments by jesusjnr2020(m): 10:17am On Oct 15, 2020 |
pozehnani:Lol! Na their papa be that oh. But he eventually had to bow down to Truth. So if it could happen to him, how much more they that are only babies in comparison? 1 Like |
Re: Answers About God From A Famous Ex-atheist With 50yrs Experience Of Arguments by Tamaratonye5(f): 5:38am On Oct 24, 2020 |
DrLiveLogic:Likewise. Welcome back DrLiveLogic:[1] Is ordered a binary variable? Like True/False? If so can you give an example of something that is not ordered? [2] If ordered isn't a binary property: what exactly are you comparing the universe against, to see that it is ordered? I suspect you are using ordered as a weasel word 2 Likes |
Re: Answers About God From A Famous Ex-atheist With 50yrs Experience Of Arguments by DrLiveLogic(m): 6:14am On Nov 07, 2020 |
Tamaratonye5:Thank you, Tantrum and you too. No weasel word here. Ordered as per marked by order and rule as evidenced in the laws of the universe/physics However, lest we dive into another unending loop, my question actually is do you think there is anything you could learn from Mr. Flew? He's a smart guy you know, justifying the brain he was given, what do you think? |
Re: Answers About God From A Famous Ex-atheist With 50yrs Experience Of Arguments by Tamaratonye5(f): 8:15pm On Nov 07, 2020 |
DrLiveLogic:Could I learn anything from a dead apologist and their book that wasn't even written by him because he was suffering from dementia? I'm guessing no. DrLiveLogic:That isn't particularly helpful at answering my question [Is order/ordered a binary property?] I don't see how the answer can be anything other than: [1] Yes [2] No [3] I don't know. Maybe you could try again. Also, it is probably a mistake to use the word "order", to describe order as you did above if you want anyone else to understand you. |
Re: Answers About God From A Famous Ex-atheist With 50yrs Experience Of Arguments by DrLiveLogic(m): 4:18am On Nov 09, 2020 |
Tamaratonye5: Why if it isn't my vintage criminal Tantrum, breaking her rules again. What do you call this again? Isn't it ad-hominem. This time try looking into the validity of his points rather than the character. Or well, just don't worry, I feel like I already know how this will end. Maybe you're not ready yet so I'll just keep hoping the best for you and try my luck some other time. That isn't particularly helpful at answering my question [Is order/ordered a binary property?]This word is in common use in math and the sciences generally. When we use it, we mean something is marked by a defining principle, rule or law. Try Merriam-Webster here. Ordered If you understand it my way, the question, if I'm comparing it to anything else will be invalid as this characteristic is intrinsic. The right question is: can we recognise any rule or law defining the working of the universe?, which the identified laws of physics have already answered. |
Re: Answers About God From A Famous Ex-atheist With 50yrs Experience Of Arguments by Tamaratonye5(f): 6:02am On Nov 10, 2020 |
DrLiveLogic:No, since dementia (or death) would have a bearing on the ability one has to produce cogent rational arguments. DrLiveLogic:Yet you were the one to appeal to authority by invoking his name. Besides bare assertions about his ability(ies), nothing of substance has been produced here. DrLiveLogic:Worry? Me? Why? It's your belief my atheism contains an inherrent risk, obviously I don't believe that, so worrying wouldn't make sense, would it? DrLiveLogic:Read this: You have never, can not, and probably won't ever, demonstrate any objective evidence for any deity, readiness is just another excuse to pretend you have possession of some hidden esoteric proof but it's clear by now that you don't lol. DrLiveLogic:Then you shouldn't have any trouble telling me if it's binary or not. You said you've been using it; clearly you must know. So please, attend to this: Tamaratonye5: DrLiveLogic:Smh. I know what ordered means, thank you very much You don't seem to grasp my question. In simple terms, what number of universes were in your test group to work out that this universe is "ordered"? OR is it your subjective opinion supported only 1 example? How does one know the other kind of universe is even possible? How does an ordered universe evidence a deity? You’re simply starting along with your belief, then fitting what you observe around that belief. If you only ever look to verify one belief, then that confirmation is what such closed minded bias will always find. DrLiveLogic:Those scientific explanations are human creations, created to know the workings of the universe. Again how are you claiming they represent evidence for your deity? Don’t forget your own superstition relies on a creation myth that's at odds with much of what science has discovered about the formation of our universe and scheme, and therefore the diversity of life on this planet. So you claiming those scientific discoveries evidence that deity is hilarious. Also you deny known scientific facts like species evolution, once they contradict your beliefs, so again the irony is palpable. 2 Likes |
Re: Answers About God From A Famous Ex-atheist With 50yrs Experience Of Arguments by Nobody: 4:55pm On May 11, 2021 |
Tamaratonye5: Life is absurd. The universe is just another group of ageless indivisible objects. |
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