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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Panther7(m): 12:17pm On Oct 24, 2020
afrodoc2:


They are not responsible.

You don’t jail people on the streets because they elected a corrupt leader. You hold the corrupt leader responsible for his actions and jail him.

Everybody is responsible for his or her own actions. The common man on the street might vote you in office but they didn’t force you to start embezzling money or jailing people without due process.

The electorate is the victim here. They are not responsible for the misbehavior of the politicians.

You can’t blame the victims when the politicians promise so much during campaign season only to renege on all their promises once in power.

I know many people who voted Buhari because they truly believed he was the best choice, and they did this after critical thinking as you put it.

Until people start having the gift of prophecy and seeing into the future critical thinking will not stop a politician from going rogue.

The problem is that there is a basic flaw with democracy which is that the general population is asked to make decision which is for the best of the country.
Unfortunately the general population is made up of people with varying intellectual capacity, meaning many people will make decisions based on their level of understanding. A fool’s vote counts the same as a genius’s vote in an election.

The fool will likely make a foolish decision, but you can’t blame him for being a fool.
This is why Socrates criticized democracy, he said voting is a skill that shòuld be taught to the populace, the way an educated man will make his decision when voting will be quite different from an illiterate. Some will argue it creates a divide but the world is not equal and will never be.

It is the duty of the genius to educate the fool but do they do it?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 12:27pm On Oct 24, 2020
Panther7:
This is why Socrates criticized democracy, he said voting is a skill that shòuld be taught to the populace, the way an educated man will make his decision when voting will be quite different from an illiterate. Some will argue it creates a divide but the world is not equal and will never be.

It is the duty of the genius to educate the fool but do they do it?

Exactly. He said voting should be a learned skill and should not be based on intuition.

It is the government that should educate the people, however having an uneducated citizenry is to their advantage.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by DontBullshitMe: 12:28pm On Oct 24, 2020
GloryIsaac:


The fact that majority believed promises like "N1 = $1" makes the sense of judgement more questionable.

Questions should be asked, some of these things won't happen by magic.

Already seeing some names being thrown around to contest in 2023. The fact that some of these names are even being considered for Presidency makes one wonder if there is really hope for the nation.
2019 election statistics.

Total Registered voters : 80 million +
Buhari : 15 million +
Atiku : 11 million +
Others : 1 million + (might even be less)

Voter's turn out percentage : Around 35%

People who sat out the election are capable of installing an ideological driven candidate but you are slandering innocent Buharist who are just a tiny percentage of the population.

Continue. grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 12:32pm On Oct 24, 2020
1-0

Emeran.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Panther7(m): 12:35pm On Oct 24, 2020
afrodoc2:


Exactly. He said voting should be a learned skill and should not be based on intuition.

It is the government that should educate the people, however having an uneducated citizenry is to their advantage.
That will never happen cheesy if the government eduactes the populace some of the leaders we have now won't be in power.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SyIvalord: 12:37pm On Oct 24, 2020
eph12:
cheesy cheesy cheesy
Hahahaha. We are on the same page grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nezzjnr: 12:38pm On Oct 24, 2020
afrodoc2:
For youth team fans our under-18s are about to play Derby.

Kambwala and McNeil making their competitive debuts.
Please update us
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 12:39pm On Oct 24, 2020
Panther7:
That will never happen cheesy if the government eduactes the populace some of the leaders we have now won't be in power.

Then Nigeria is on a long thing. This is where civil liberty groups, NGOs, student groups etc should come in.

Everybody has to chip in to educate and enlighten the man on the street.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 12:39pm On Oct 24, 2020
TrebleChamp:
TAA is permantly in my team ba injury, i sold VVD cos of his injury and bought castagne. Also replaced Charlie Austin wey never give me any point with Calvert-Lewin. This is my first ever FPL season and i started in Gameweek 2 sef. Kane, Grealish, James (Everton) and Bamford dey really help the ministry...

Lucky.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 12:41pm On Oct 24, 2020
Nezzjnr:

Please update us



Kambwala looking classy and assured. A good passer.

McNeil has been quiet.

Derby are one man down and we are pressing them like brezz.

Emeran scored the only goal so far.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 12:44pm On Oct 24, 2020
afrodoc2:


It is a fundamental flaw with democracy. In Book 6 of Plato’s Republic he details Socrates criticism of democracy.
Socrates felt allowing people to vote without a proper education was as irresponsible as for instance allowing people on a ship to vote to decide who would captain the ship.

Exactly. The issue of equal vote for every citizen is heavily flawed, because (as you earlier opined) people are on different levels of intellect. A nation battling a high level of poverty and illiteracy (which is a really dangerous combination) makes it even worse.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 12:45pm On Oct 24, 2020
Leyqute:


Lucky.
Maybe grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 12:49pm On Oct 24, 2020
Antonio’s goal makes sense!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 12:54pm On Oct 24, 2020
CapitalCee:


They thought Ed was joking, I even suspect they were very very ready to do business towards the transfer deadline, Baba just called their bluff and went for Diallo and pellistri, and added Cavani as jara. Dortmund are currently in financial crises already, and with Covid peaking again as we approach winter in Europe, I don't see fans returning and gate fee forms a huge chunk of their revenue, so they will be looking to clear their books

Make them eat the Sancho. Then no dey hear word.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 12:58pm On Oct 24, 2020
Man City don collect fess

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by adebayo201: 12:58pm On Oct 24, 2020
nitrogen:
Antonio’s goal makes sense!

I read the prediction yesterday on skysport. The bookers are rooting for Westham to win sha.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 1:02pm On Oct 24, 2020
JayKayMaybachz:
Happy Weekend fam..

What's your prediction for today's game ??
3 - 1 in favour of us.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 1:03pm On Oct 24, 2020
patrickmuf:
Hehehe My boy will make you eat your words...

He'll be back firing on all cylinders...
From the wings abeg. cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LostMyZeal(m): 1:14pm On Oct 24, 2020
Sell that Paul Pogba aggressively
And get Jack Graelish


Ain't nobody got time for unserious players



Make dem no increase any shii abehg
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 1:16pm On Oct 24, 2020
afrodoc2:


Then Nigeria is on a long thing. This is where civil liberty groups, NGOs, student groups etc should come in.

Everybody has to chip in to educate and enlighten the man on the street.
This is my position. Especially the thugs, homeless and extremely poor citizens.
Apart from educating them, those with good intentions should also help these less privileged who can be bought on the election day. This government is really using illiteracy and poverty as a weapon.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 1:16pm On Oct 24, 2020
Forson scores. 2-0
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nezzjnr: 1:20pm On Oct 24, 2020
afrodoc2:



Kambwala looking classy and assured. A good passer.

McNeil has been quiet.

Derby are one man down and we are pressing them like brezz.

Emeran scored the only goal so far.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 1:22pm On Oct 24, 2020
McNeil scores. 3-0
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nezzjnr: 1:23pm On Oct 24, 2020
afrodoc2:
McNeil scores. 3-0
My Guyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 1:30pm On Oct 24, 2020
Nezzjnr:

My Guyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!

He was not really playing well though he took his goal really well.
Kambwala is looking like he will have a chance. His partner Hardley looks quite good also.
Then we have Fish and Mengi with under-23 and Tuanzebe with the senior team.

If we buy 1 world class CB and offload Drs Bailly, Rojo, and Jones we should be sorted for several years at CB.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nezzjnr: 1:31pm On Oct 24, 2020
afrodoc2:


He was not really playing well though he took his goal really well.
Kambwala is looking like he will have a chance. His partner Hardley looks quite good also.
Then we have Fish and Mengi with under-23 and Tuanzebe with the senior team.

If we buy 1 world class CB and offload Drs Bailly, Rojo, and Jones we should be sorted for the several years at CB.

Treble in the upcoming years cool
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 1:34pm On Oct 24, 2020
JayKayMaybachz:
Man City don collect fess
This man. Where you dey all this while..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 1:34pm On Oct 24, 2020
Nezzjnr:


Treble in the upcoming years cool

4-0. McNeil shot deflected in by a Derby defender.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 1:44pm On Oct 24, 2020
Odunharry:
This man. Where you dey all this while..
Was busy fam..
Longest time?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 1:45pm On Oct 24, 2020
adebayo201:


I read the prediction yesterday on skysport. The bookers are rooting for Westham to win sha.

Well, let’s see how it goes.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:50pm On Oct 24, 2020
odizeey:

From the wings abeg. cheesy
grin grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 1:54pm On Oct 24, 2020
LostMyZeal:
Sell that Paul Pogba aggressively
And get Jack Graelish


Ain't nobody got time for unserious players



Make dem no increase any shii abehg

Lol, Jack Grealish for Paul Pogba. Some of you are just impossible!

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