FacundoCruz:

It's not about negativity bro, it's about what's best for the club. This is the not the first time ole has won with large margins only to go on a dismal run later.

There will always be a time that consistency and stability will come in.
Liverpool were like that too during klopps early days, blowing hot and cold, but there board backed him because of the potential they saw whenever they played well. Liverpool started becoming consistent in getting results in 2018, after like 2 seasons of hot and cold.

This season will probably determine that and I strongly feels that Ole will do well considering the things he's had to learn for the past 1½ years. From the look of things so far, he's been learning from his mistakes and the way he's been approaching things, he doesn't look like someone that will repeat his mistakes twice.

airmark:


Ziyech first Ucl first goal.

We will see how your left back will survive when James and Ziyech bombard his area. I know that Ole will be conservative again and rely on counter.

We used Luke Shaw against Chelsea


What else are you saying

airmark:


Go and listen to what Evra said about your team's approach to that match.

Always relying on counter.

You mean crack head Evra that is saying shit lately. Saying we don't need VDB. As if Man utd is Burnley that only play league games, hence no need for a big quality squad?

For what it's worth, we didn't even play you guys the way we played Leipzig where we played low block defending against them. We where even more open against you guys, but you wouldn't know sha, because you have German Pius ikedia as striker running up and down like a headless chicken

timay:


There will always be a time that consistency and stability will come in.
Liverpool were like that too during klopps early days, blowing hot and cold, but there board backed him because of the potential they saw whenever they played well. Liverpool started becoming consistent in getting results in 2018, after like 2 seasons of hot and cold.

This season will probably determine that and I strongly feels that Ole will do well considering the things he's had to learn for the past 1½ years. From the look of things so far, he's been learning from his mistakes and the way he's been approaching things, he doesn't look like someone that will repeat his mistakes twice.

Just 2-3 games o, don’t say he’s been learning from his mistakes abeg. What if his system is to bring on board new signings to ginger the team, and as soon as they blend with the team, we return to our normal self? Just a harmless question.

I do hope he gets it right this time, I am tired of one step forward one step backward.

timay:


No mind them na

They will always change the goal post to fit their agenda na.
It used to be Nagelsmann is better than Ole, but now that Ole humbled him, they now change it to Ole has better players than Nagelsmann. I wonder if we also have better players than PSG too.


Yeye dey smell

I was part of that argument and I remember saying that Nagelsmann is over achieving with the players he has...That was way before the game yesterday.

I still think Nagelsmann is a better coach compared to Ole...The fact Ole is coach of Manchester United isn't down to his impressive resume but rather his status at the club...

As I said yesterday, let us enjoy the victory and wish for improvements going forward...If the team starts playing badly again, some of us will still demand for more, it doesn't mean we hate Ole or the players but we just want better...

As for that PSG line, a combined team of PSG and Manchester United should see us having more players in the team...Forget stellar names like Neymar and Mbappe...If in doubt, drop your supposed combine team.

nitrogen:


Just 2-3 games o, don’t say he’s been learning from his mistakes abeg. What if his system is to bring on board new signings to ginger the team, and as soon as they blend with the team, we return to our normal self? Just a harmless question.

I do hope he gets it right this time, I am tired of one step forward one step backward.

Time will tell sha.

But I believe the consistency will come eventually.

Nezzjnr:

We used Luke Shaw against Chelsea


What else are you saying

If you like use Patrice Evra.

Ziyech will run any of your LBs down. Maguire will have alot of aerial balls to fumble that day. He won't be lucky.

patrickmuf:
I was part of that argument and I remember saying that Nagelsmann is over achieving with the players he has...That was way before the game yesterday.

I still think Nagelsmann is a better coach compared to Ole...The fact Ole is coach of Manchester United isn't down to his impressive resume but rather his status at the club...

As I said yesterday, let us enjoy the victory and wish for improvements going forward...If the team starts playing badly again, some of us will still demand for more, it doesn't mean we hate Ole or the players but we just want better...

For a young guy, Nagelsmann is an impressive coach, I'll also admit that.

But his style of play of highline is very dangerous o. With a lot of defensively disciplined sides in the EPL who knows how to counter, they will conceed a lot of goals. If he can learn to be flexible and not grow to become a purist mindset like Pep, he'll go far.

eph12:

People swore Fred was shit all season and glad Pogba was back. It was only a matter of time before Pogba begins his usual frustration. Pogba is very good, but he shouldn't be dropping deep like Fred, Matic and Tom. He's more likely to lose the ball than those three trying to beat one more person. Pogba and Bruno should rotate that attacking position. He will more chances for us there

Facts.

timay:


For a young guy, Nagelsmann is an impressive coach, I'll also admit that.

But his style of play of highline is very dangerous o. With a lot of defensively disciplined sides in the EPL who knows how to counter, they will conceed a lot of goals. If he can learn to be flexible and not grow to become a purist mindset like Pep, he'll go far.

Watching Leipzig yesterday, you could see that some of his players struggle when pressed. The shortage of quality in their ranks only becomes evident when they are pressed...Even their passing is most times misplaced simply because the payers are not very technically gifted...

odizeey:

Bilingual applies to international languages. Official languages.

Says who?

Melvyn11:

How does all these Shalayes you have written now relate to hazard champions league goal record? Baba come and Carry your fraud away from my club.

My belle ooo

benji93:
Some people here are quite narrow in their analysis of the game. As i talk am, na one day chick dey break out of egg. Just maybe those Leipzig players have always had that quality,but we only began noticing them when they got through to the knockout stages of last season's champions league. If Lingard, Perreira and the likes were playing somewhere else outside England and Spain, nobody go look their side too. Most of us here struggle with finding the most reasonable context for our arguments. To think that those Leipzig players are on the same level with Lingard and the likes is quite disingenuous. We no dey identify better ball players by dem popularity. You must watch to know. So telling us Nagelsmann dey coach a bunch of amateurs is quite ridiculous. The line between good coaching and good quality players is not as clear as you people make it seem. For great coaching only time can tell. It's usually a description in retrospect. At the very least you need good players. most of us no dey watch other players barring the transcendental ones in other leagues, unless transfer dey link us. Guardiola has always coached teams of high quality, so does that make him less great, no. Monkeys play by their sizes. You too work hard, build a resume worth looking at so you can get to coach a team that can buy you the players to win.

Add breaks.

Nezzjnr:

Greenwood will soon surpass him

Fixed

patrickmuf:
Watching Leipzig yesterday, you could see that some of his players struggle when pressed. The shortage of quality in their ranks only becomes evident when they are pressed...Even their passing is most times misplaced simply because the payers are not very technically gifted...

I doubt that. They play against teams that press in the bundesliga regularly without problem. The likes of sabitzer, Nkunku and co are quality players, so that one nobi excuse
They just had problem with the set up we used yesterday, they found it difficult to progress the ball to create chances, thus resulting to recycling possession.

Funny enough, Ole must have seen Leipzig last league game against Hoffenheim , and adopted Hoffenheim strategy with little fine tuning to contain them. Even though they eventually beat Hoffenheim 2-1, but they found it difficult to break them down throughout the game. Those ones lost because they couldn't keep up their concentration level throughout the game.

The key to Ole's win yesterday was Leipzig last match were he must have discovered that the team is useless against low block, hence the 4-4-2

FacundoCruz:

It's not about negativity bro, it's about what's best for the club. This is the not the first time ole has won with large margins only to go on a dismal run later.

Why are you predicting doom and saying it's not negativity?

Panther7:
Says who?

My former grammar instructor

He no be Waec now.

odizeey:

Add breaks.

odizeey:

My former grammar instructor

Ohhh alright

benji93:
He no be Waec now.

Eye still dey affect person na.
The thing affect my psychology.

timay:


I doubt that. They play against teams that press in the bundesliga regularly without problem. The likes of sabitzer, Nkunku and co are quality players, so that one nobi excuse
They just had problem with the set up we used yesterday, they found it difficult to progress the ball to create chances, thus resulting to recycling possession.

Funny enough, Ole must have seen Leipzig last league game against Hoffenheim , and adopted Hoffenheim strategy with little fine tuning to contain them. Even though they eventually beat Hoffenheim 2-1, but they found it difficult to break them down throughout the game. Those ones lost because they couldn't keep up their concentration level throughout the game.

The key to Ole's win yesterday was Leipzig last match were he must have discovered that the team is useless against low block, hence the 4-4-2

Go and watch Leipzig vs PSG semi finals last season and you'll see that Leipzig undid themselves most times due to errors in their passing game which was clearly on show yesterday...

The system Nagelsmann is deploying requires very technical players with stamina...It's not to knock down on his current players but no matter how you look at it, they're not the most technically gifted team around. They might get away when they're up against Buli teams but against the top guns in Europe who pick their moments, they'll struggle.

timay:


I doubt that. They play against teams that press in the bundesliga regularly without problem. The likes of sabitzer, Nkunku and co are quality players, so that one nobi excuse
They just had problem with the set up we used yesterday, they found it difficult to progress the ball to create chances, thus resulting to recycling possession.

Funny enough, Ole must have seen Leipzig last league game against Hoffenheim , and adopted Hoffenheim strategy with little fine tuning to contain them. Even though they eventually beat Hoffenheim 2-1, but they found it difficult to break them down throughout the game. Those ones lost because they couldn't keep up their concentration level throughout the game.

The key to Ole's win yesterday was Leipzig last match were he must have discovered that the team is useless against low block, hence the 4-4-2

Brilliant analysis, the recycling of possession is making some people believe Leipzig outplayed us and they only had 2 shots on targets with just one clear cut chance created.

Some people sha like possession football with little or no end product. Energy drink didn't really threaten except with setpieces.

GloryIsaac:


If Rashford (or any other player at that) does not perform well for the club, then they have no business with the social brouhaha because it's the club that gave them that platform. It's common sense.

If they perform well on the pitch, whatever they do in their spare time does not concern anyone, as long as it doesn't smear the club. EOD

So his social activism was not distracting him from playing good football again abi?
Cos the claim then was that his poor form was due to him being socially responsible.

Now it seems he was just being attacked for the phuck of it. You guys just plucked at the low hanging fruit and decided that since he was not making you happy on the field he should not be happy off it.

What you are saying is that once a player is going through poor form he should withdraw from all non-football activities whether it is linked to his poor form or not. And that is ridiculous.

The club that pays his salary was smart to know that not only were his off the field activities not responsible for his poor play but they also gave the club great PR.

Fans should learn to keep their noses out of the personal lives of players as long as they are not carrying out activities that are illegal or that affect their on the field performance.

Rashford’s life was not created to entertain you or make you happy. EOD

GloryIsaac:


If Rashford (or any other player at that) does not perform well for the club, then they have no business with the social brouhaha because it's the club that gave them that platform. It's common sense.

If they perform well on the pitch, whatever they do in their spare time does not concern anyone, as long as it doesn't smear the club. EOD

EOD.. like say you talk better thing .

Confirm rubbish

GloryIsaac:


Nobody blamed social activism. Also, no one will blink at his social activity if he was doing well on the field.

He is not being paid £200,000/wk for social brouhaha. He’s being paid that much to play football and actually deliver.

No matter how passionate anybody is about social justice, underperformance in the place of work will attract a sanction, and possibly, a dismissal.

This was my earlier post.

Cc Afrodoc

eph12:

The only new player that started against Leipzig was VDB. He was already here when we were still crying that we had a poor squad. Stop mentioning Lingard and Perreira. They haven't really been playing since towards the end of last season. Cavani came in for the last 15 minutes or so. I don't want to start asking what he did.

The major shift in our performance and results was dropping Pogba and Matic, not some new players agenda. Is it not the same new players (VDB) we're begging Ole to play?

This, coupled with fitness level improving

GloryIsaac:
"I don’t think there’s that many special, special teams across Europe now"

Paul Scholes says Manchester United can win the Champions League this season [utdreport]

Because of 5-0. Scholes should be calming down na group stage we still dey.

timay:


You mean crack head Evra that is saying shit lately. Saying we don't need VDB. As if Man utd is Burnley that only play league games, hence no need for a big quality squad?

For what it's worth, we didn't even play you guys the way we played Leipzig where we played low block defending against them. We where even more open against you guys, but you wouldn't know sha, because you have German Pius ikedia as striker running up and down like a headless chicken

United and Chelsea were cautious in their approach and Evra was spot on.

Barring unforeseen circumstances Chelsea players must have gelled by the time we face your team.

Ziyech to the right, Pulisic to the left, United will die before half time.

eph12:

Perreira and Lingard were responsible for the nonsense the other people were playing on the field just some matches ago? Who is arguing about those ones when the squad have since moved on from them? I no understand you. We are talking about the performance of the team, Bruno, Rashford, Pogba, Maguire, Lindelof, AWB and co, and you're mentioning people that don't even make match squad?

I dont know about you, but for me, upgrading from Lingard - Prreira to VDB - Bruno is worth talking about. Afterall, we still occasionally talk about Jones even though that one doesn't play for us anymore.

Having a sound coach is solving one part of the problem. Any team will always struggle if coach get sense but the players dey play rubbish.

If Rashford came on yesterday and was doing his headless chicken runs or Bruno came on and was romancing the ball instead of playing Rashford through one time, we may not have won that match.

The 2nd and 3rd goal that Rashford buried yesterday, he missed similar chances vs Sevilla. What changed? Because Ole switched formation?
The only person we can make a case for that a change in formation has helped is Pogba.

The players have simply stepped it up a notch since that 6-1 loss to Spurs. We'll wait to see if they can maintain it and remain consistent.
Plus it definitely imbibes confidence looking at the bench and not seeing the likes of Lingard, Pereira, James and Williams as the mainstay of the squad.

handelex:
Because of 5-0. Scholes should be calming down na group stage we still dey.

We haven't even played the 2nd leg of the group stage matches lol

The Champions League agenda starts in full force if we make it to the semifinals

GloryIsaac:


This was my earlier post.

Cc Afrodoc

First statement was wrong. People blamed social activism. Saying it was the reason for his poor form and he was not focused. Rashford who is practically the most focused player in the whole squad alongside maybe Bruno, McTom.

Second statement is like saying because a banker or teacher is temporarily struggling at his place of work he should not help out in church or at the motherless home again even though it has nothing to do with his struggles. After all he is not being paid to help orphans would be your argument. Makes no sense.

Third statement is very close to bullying and comes of as self entitled. No matter how much a player is paid he has a right to live his own life the way he deems it fit and he has a right to do the things that makes him happy.

A player does not lose the right to being happy just because he is not satisfying YOUR expectations on the field.