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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 6:34am On Nov 02, 2020 |
Janosky:keep wallowing in self deceit. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Jozzy4: 6:43am On Nov 02, 2020 |
livingchrist:Sown=buried So the body that was buried is a soulish body ? Both are the same thing = hell. it's only dead bodies that are thrown in Gehenna in Jesus day. Do you know ? SO WHICH BODY DOES THE RICH MAN HAVE SINCE RESSURECTION HAS NOT OCCUR.
" So it is with the ressurection of the DEAD . It is sown in corruption; it is raised up in incorruption " 1 Cor 15:42 Uncle lie lie lie. Are they part of the dead ? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 7:36am On Nov 02, 2020 |
Jozzy4:lie lie jozzy, paul was talking about the dead in Christ not all the dead. 1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Fraudulent jozzy what happened to the body of Jesus if it did not rise, you cant explain yourself, lie lie |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Ken4Christ: 7:40am On Nov 02, 2020 |
Janosky: Go back to school, you will understand the correlation. If hellfire teaching is fraud, then you are saying that Jesus is a fraud because it was part of his message unless you read only part of the Bible. Matthew 13:49-50. 49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, 50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Am I the one who wrote this Scripture. Mad people who are bent on subverting gullible souls. I deliberately quoted this verse because he didn't mention hell here otherwise you will call it grave. He didn't mention hellfire, otherwise you will call it Gehenna. So what do you call this? You will keep arguing until you land inside it. You are a captive of the devil. He is happy he has booked a permanent visa for hell for you. You are a son of perdition. You will never repent. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Ken4Christ: 7:47am On Nov 02, 2020 |
Janosky: I didn't condemn them. I only disagree with some of their teachings. And Kumuyi has acknowledged his errors and trying to find ways to rectify them but Olukoya hasn't. Dr Olukoya error is his prayer form which directs members to kill. This is not consistent with the teachings of Christ. Nowhere in the new testament the Christian told to kill perceived enemies. And he and his members may not make heaven if they continue in this form of prayers. Heavens gate is not wide enough to accommodate murderers. No murderer has eternal life in him. When confronted with this, they defend their prayers that it is targeted on spirit. Do spirit die? You can only cast them away, bind them, resist them or rebuke them. The Scripture is very clear on this. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Ken4Christ: 8:01am On Nov 02, 2020 |
haddeylium: No you can't because you will not be fed with the right teachings. They are not Christians. They are anti Christ. They are wolves in Sheep's clothing. They are agents of darkness disguised as ministers of light. They oppose every truth of God's word. They don't even believe God raised Jesus from the dead bodily. They claim initially that God must have melted his body with strong chemical such that the body melted away. Later, they claim God took the body away. I am shocked that gullible people following them believe this lie from the pit of hell. Jesus told Thomas that he has flesh and bones. He said he will raise his body in three days. Jehovah Witness just won't accept the truth. Their mind is blocked to see the light. They are destined for destruction and they won't escape it. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 8:24am On Nov 02, 2020 |
DappaD:If you witness for Jehovah and if you get liver, answer the Question I asked Maximus. By the way, I can still break your serpentine head to pieces with the scriptures you posted above, but that's not necessary. Go ahead and answer my question to maximus. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MuttleyLaff: 8:27am On Nov 02, 2020 |
[img]https://s5/images/ezgif-2-bb81ab7ea10d.gif[/img] Wolves in Sheep's clothing. Agents of darkness disguised as ministers of light Break serpentine head to pieces |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 8:34am On Nov 02, 2020 |
Ken4Christ: Atleast Olukoya and the other guy is going to hellfire cos' you don't agree with their teaching. Which one is working for you? which church would you recommend ? |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 8:35am On Nov 02, 2020 |
haddeylium:Actually, I knew your understanding of English is not that grounded before. But I never knew you love shadowboxing with English. "Angel Gabriel POSITION as an angel (messenger)" - Haddeylium. Look at your life. Look at your life in the party (translate to Yoruba). Look at it once again. @The capitalized, you've gone to sub zero on your essence scale. In our whole discussion, no one was referring to POSITION, the focus was on KIND OF BEING. "Will the resurrected BECOME PURE ANGELIC CREATURES (Is this a position? Apala) just like Gabriel?". Max: Yes Haddey: No. They will only Be like them I don't just have the time to double shame you by taking screenshots of your Different line of thought in that thread and posting it here. Kini nwi? Is this what helps y'all to sleep at night? You believe they won't become angelic creatures. Max believes they will become. Agreement my foot! The only solution is for Max to bow to trinity, take back his errors, or swallow the hard pill. It's your headache, twisting English will not help you. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 8:50am On Nov 02, 2020 |
Janosky:Unfortunately, this is not an excuse. I even presumptously gave a summary which was consistent with Max's view for Haddeylium. He denied it and said - THAT'S NOT MY POSITION, MINE IS ; THEY WILL BE LIKE ANGELS. You have eyes but you cannot see You.have ears but you cannot hear The truth is only for true Christians - the catholics. The catholic are that true group which their master said - I have much things to tell you, but you cannot bare them now. So, it's been revealed to the pope, the one true man who Jesus is using to feed his own flocks - The Catholics. You never realized y'all were this ridiculous whenever you defend the errors of your GB and its organization. LWKMD |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by DappaD: 9:00am On Nov 02, 2020 |
Blabbermouth: Are you not the same person who normally uses the excuse: “Give me time I’ll get back to you I’ve been busy lately” and then disappear totally from the scene? Isn't that how you did concerning one of my comments here a few days ago? Don’t worry yourself there’s actually nothing you can do to counter—the best you can do is to dig out unrelated scriptures, use them to form an argument to save face. Your ego has gotten the best of you this time. 1 Like |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 9:28am On Nov 02, 2020 |
Blabbermouth: For someone that does know what it means to be an Angel. Count it as favour that you're conversing with me. Notice your usage of Like Would the resurrected one Become pure messenger (Angel) creature like Gabriel. Gabriel is a spirit creature and holds the office of messenger (Angel) Will the 'resurrected ones' become a spirit creatures and messengers.... Clearly Yes! They will be like Angels as Angel Gabriel is. They will become Angels as Angel Gabriel is. Quick question Did Jesus be like a pure son of man as King David? or become? You need so much to learn... Rest and learn! |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 11:45am On Nov 02, 2020 |
haddeylium:[img]https://media1./images/348caef7f383e12d740d7777726e54a3/tenor.gif?itemid=9271200[/img] Another twist! Unfortunately, you are still creating strawmans. Nigga, I know how it feels to be in your shoes right notw - helpless, cornered and being annihilated, yet giving up is not an option Your brother Maximus stylishly and subtly said - your tiny difference in position (concerning the ressurected) is not enough to come between you. LWKMD. The keyword there is - BECOME PURE ANGELIC CREATURE Haddey: No Maximus: Yes. The word - Like Angel Gabriel was there to make sure you never ever get an escape route. So, your "angel is messenger" fraud cannot help you. We all know say angels are messenger. Even Janosky, Muttley and I agreed that Janosky is an angel. However Angel (or messenger) Janosky is not/never a pure angelic creature just like Gabriel. ONE LINE OF THOUGHT MY FOOT! Haddey wan disguise 1 Like |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 11:49am On Nov 02, 2020 |
DappaD:Lol. When I have the time, I will come back to that. What's with the "normally use....." fallacy? How many times did i say i will come back without actually coming back? Just as I came for haddey in the other thread, if the Lord permits, I will come back when i have the time. LWKMD. The last we checked, you were the one that tapped out by forming mature man. LMAO! |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 11:59am On Nov 02, 2020 |
Blabbermouth: Now, you see how dumb your question is. Imagine someone asking if Jesus would become King David.. Doesn't make an iota of sense Appreciate this people coming down to your level and revealing bible truths to you. Would Jesus become a son of man like King David would He be like the Son of man like King David A reasonable person would know they both means the same thing. Now, Substitute your Pure Messenger (Angel) creature and Gabriel into those simplified text and free yourself from this delusions. Unless, you want to reframe your question and ask if "The resurrected ones" will become "Angel Gabriel in heaven" Don't even bother.... That's dumb. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 12:20pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
DappaD: I envied how he tapped out of "The little flock and the other sheep" discuss you're having with him tho Truly, it's a new light to him. He's waiting for that spirit to whisper to him "My Son, we're ready" and then be chasing cheap points 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by DappaD: 12:35pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
haddeylium: I already told him that there's nothing he has to counter the argument All he's set out to do now is to create imaginary scenarios in that puny mind of his—he can't even see how desperate he's trying to sound. Tell me about “ONE LINE OF THOUGHT MY FOOT!” that he's been clamoring about ever since. Are JWs the cause of his misfortune that he's been restless and repeating the same words for two days straight? There are a lot of things his weak brain cannot comprehend for now! (Matthew 7:6) 1 Like |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 12:43pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
If not for the fact that this serves as a comic relief for me, I would have left you to nurse your wound. haddeylium:Lol. The question is now dumb. I never asked if they will become Angel Gabriel - Laugh wan kill me die. I asked if they will become pure angelic creature LIKE angel Gabriel Haddey: No Max: Yes. One line of thought ko, one line of confusion ni. Do you realize you are stammering even in texting me? Coming down to my level? You were not above in the first place. Lol. You denied it meant the same thing! Whatever words you spit will surely be used against you. Hahahahahahaha Hahahahahahaha Hahahahahahaha You are 97% confused. E ma wo bobo yi sha. LMAO! Ó fe da si rough. Emi ika, mo tí gbé wôn l'handicap ti pe ti pe. You are double mouthed. Let me free you from the punishment. Go back to that thread where you denied them becoming pure angelic creatures just like Gabriel and say you take your words back, it is now so so so. Nobody will bite you for embracing the new "brightest light" your brother maximus showed you. Hahahahahahaha Hahahahahahaha Emi íkà. 1 Like |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 12:48pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
haddeylium:Nursing each other's wound after I have given them choke slams. Your brother tapped out when I pinned his head down with a merciless undertaker's X-Gate submission. Dappa said - I'm out. LMAO! You guys bought what you cannot pay for. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 1:27pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
Blabbermouth: In our preaching work, we encounter different folks with individual ways of understanding things. Some get the point of discuss in the speed of light. others will need explanation, illustration and all sort, and here comes the ones that would rather remain blinded in the light of scriptural truth asking about "Who give monkey banana" i don't think any of us here have English as it's primary language. I explained in way, the other explained in more simplified genre rendering to the same meaning. If you failed to understand after so much illustration. Hold your English teacher responsible and not Jws Gabriel and those "The resurrected ones" with heavenly hope will share in common "Being pure Messenger (Angelic) creature. They will both be Sons of God/Messengers. They would Become a Spirit creature. Would they be like an Angel...Yes! Would they become an Angel like Gabriel...Yes boy! |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 1:55pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
Blabbermouth: You can't do better than rant on faceless media against the only organization doing God's will today. The then persecutors couldn't do more to the United early christains congregations. Swallow your pride and channel this energy into gaining beneficial knowledge from this God's people |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 2:15pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
haddeylium:[img]https://media1./images/348caef7f383e12d740d7777726e54a3/tenor.gif?itemid=9271200[/img] Your shit is not even strong. Now, you've publicly changed your position in a fruitless effort to salvage what's left of your fallacy. I'm a fair man, I will allow you play that card. By the way, go to Ken4Christ's thread and clean up your mess. 1 Like
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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 2:29pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
Blabbermouth: Now, you see that that's scripture ain't your problem but English and comprehension. I've explained to you what it means to be like and become I predicted your lack of comprehension and poor understanding of word usage. I didn't want to go over the long thread of 'explaining what it means that 'the resurrected ones will be become Angel like Gabriel" I would rather stick to the Like I used then! - That's when I said that's my word! Believe me, I put your comprehension capacity into consideration Enjoy! |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Jozzy4: 3:03pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
livingchrist: The red says the " Dead " Just as " So it is with the ressurection of the DEAD . It is sown in corruption; it is raised up in incorruption " 1 Cor 15:42 Are they part of the dead ? Which body did the rich man have in hell since ressurection hasn't occur ? Let's validate your Mark 9:43,44 claim. To see if it's a ressurection body Only dead bodies are thrown into Gehenna , Do you read that ? |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 4:00pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
haddeylium:A coward trying too hard not to give up. When i ressurect, i will be LIKE God Almighty. Is different from *When i ressurect, I will BECOME God Almighty* Fraud! In other words, I will rather be a coward and continue alternating between positions. Haddeylium said No. Haddeylium: Yes. That's what happens when a coward has to bow down and lap up the dog shit his organization gives him. It's a thing of the heart - you can't deny it to yourself that you've blown up big time. Even as you are, you still don't know where to stand - With Maximus or with your former position. You are all over the place trying to go on with a match that's already ended. It's a comic relief before, but your self inflicted amnesia is boring me already. PS: My purpose has been achieved. It has entered your heart already, deny it publicly, but make sure you nurse those wounds well in your private. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 6:38pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
Blabbermouth: Exactly boy! Context The title Jehovah holds in authority is being "Almighty God"(The most supreme being). And the Bible explained that no one can be like him in this regards. Jot it down. The title the sons of God in heaven hold is an Angel(messenger) would the resurrected ones become an Angel like these sons of God in heaven.?. Yes Obv! I'll become a Father like Gabriel I'll be like a Father as Gabriel Father and Angel are both honorary post or title. When I said I'm becoming a Father like Gabriel doesn't implies that I'll become Gabriel. But, if what you mean is that "the resurrected ones" will become Angel Gabriel"... Man, I give it up to you ..You beat be hands down with this your low wit |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 7:08pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
haddeylium:Just rest you hear, you've tried but still failed your group already. An angelic creature is not a position, it's a kind of being. Being a man is not a position, it's a kind of being. Jehovah is not a position, Jehovah is a kind of Being. You would have lost nothing if you simply admit to the "brighter light" maximus showed you, and corrected your "errors". Foolishly, you kept creating strawmams calling an angelic creature a position. Perhaps you are not a man, your position is man. I keep helping you not to sound ridiculous, you kept denying yourself the help and continued decaying. I was 7 steps ahead of you. The talk is on the kind of creature, not a freaking position or duty. For Christ's sake, this saints were angels (messengers) even before they died. A dog keep trying to scrap around, he doesn't want to look like a betrayer. You fall my hand, always thought you were fair. PS: Don't bother quoting me again, your strawmanship is irritating. (Always seeing " Angelic creature" and converting it to "messenger" to delude himself). You failed your organization already. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by achorladey: 7:13pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
Janosky: Deceptive misrepresentation for example Matthew 24:45 - 47 is about GB of JWS that those taking the lead in Hebrews 13:17 is the GB of JWs . Quote the entire content of that Watchtower here Are you tired of consulting your website for details or you are now afraid of consulting the website that contains MISLEADING information. Which one? To the MILLIONS NOW LIVING WILL NEVER DIE SAGA na you know the market Rutherford was selling in 1925 don't bring Bible verse to cover the product No disciples is PERFECT but Jehovah sees GB as PERFECT while in the FLESH and still on EARTH The GB forgot they are IMPERFECT when they printed in their MATERIALS that Jehovah sees them as PERFECT in the FLESH while still on earth that material is still on the misleading website |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by achorladey: 7:22pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
Blabbermouth: They easily call ex-Jws and those who bring their teachings and doctrines under scrutiny APOSTATES. Like rottennaija said, when they see APOSTASY they won't know. Russell will be called APOSTATE in the same very ORGANIZATION he set up. Why? As of today he must REJECT the evidence of his eyes and ears as directed by the PARTY or his head go to chopping block |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by achorladey: 7:27pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
Blabbermouth: I borrowed an example given by Emusan concerning the JWS always boasting about having love among themselves. Emusan said, the same JWs that cannot hand over his daughter in marriage to another JWs One replied by saying I am against them because they didn't give me their daughter to marry. I just |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 7:29pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
Ken4Christ: Your KJV Bible says Matthew 13:49-50 is a parable. Deal with it, Pastorpreneur. . Daniel 3:19-21. "19 Then Nebuchadnezzar was furious with Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, and his attitude toward them changed. He ordered the furnace heated seven times hotter than usual 20 and commanded some of the strongest soldiers in his army to tie up Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego and throw them into the blazing furnace. 21 So these men, wearing their robes, trousers, turbans and other clothes, were bound and thrown into the blazing furnace. 22 The king’s command was so urgent and the furnace so hot that the flames of the fire killed the soldiers who took up Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego". Daniel 3:19-21, Is Nebuchadnezzar's soldiers still in that fiery furnace suffering everlasting torture today ? WAYO man, Wetin concern Perdition & everlasting torture? I challenge you to show where your Bible says Son of Perdition is everlasting torture. The Scriptural evidence and the Screenshot confirm that Daniel 3:19-21 PROOF that you Pastorpreneur is as fraudulent as your hellfire FRAUD ;[/b]D .
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